Board 8 > kpop topic - anticipating the other 3 blackpink solos

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CLC - Devil (gap crush)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E6upgkOj9w" data-time="

always said they'd excel in this format.

Onewe - Latata (cover)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMWLOXibePg" data-time="

this is cool.
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Dreamcatcher - Deja Vu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W761DtH1oRg" data-time="

it's good - as a 'fly high' enthusiast i like it when they mix in softer elements, though this is goes more ballad than pop.
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'dumb litty' is kinda shout-y and monotonous. feel like it should be half as long and an intro.
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Not really a fan of it. But new Twice today. Gonna listen tonight.

Did anyone watch IU's Hotel Del Luna? I saw the first episode and it was pretty interesting so I will continue.

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Twice - Feel Special

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ymwOvzhwHs" data-time="

good as always, though maybe not as good as 'fancy' while being very similar. also, the jeongyeon x jeongyeon pairing lmao

i've not seen hotel del luna, but it sounds very up my alley. i've not seen a kdrama since like 2017 and should catch up.
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Oneus - Lit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4VA5eaZjyo" data-time="

i was a bit nervous from the name alone and well

Purple Beck - Dream Line

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-tpryyodOg" data-time="

stfu are their fans really called beckys
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it's been a middling for a few months now.

10. Sonamoo - We Are Legendary
9. AKMU - Freedom
8. Seventeen - Lie Again
7. Twice - Feel Special
6. Twice - Get Loud
5. AKMU - Whale
4. Teen Teen - It's On You
3. Dreamcatcher - Deja Vu
2. Dreamcatcher - Silent Night
1. CLC - Devil

i was joking during V-1 that it'd be nice if high.d won to fund the inevitable lawsuit, and now it's starting as sumin and nahyun (+ sleepy) are filing for contract termination with others soon to follow i'm sure. fucking TS man

been listening to the new kwon jinah, but they're fairly standard ballads and i don't really have a standout track - it's mostly a background thing.
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SuperM - Jopping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAnK1y7qjuE" data-time="

didn't listen to the leaks so this is my first exposure, and it's p good actually?

also, even superm is a markyong-fest and i love it.
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new kwon jinah you say? I'll have to listen

new Twice is meh - better than most of their stuff but not as good as Fancy
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on that note, Jihyo and Tzuyu are S tier for this comeback. Momo is awesome without bangs too
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dal shabet had a reunion which involved a photo exhibition, and acoustic versions of some of their songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBMq2yW_3C0" data-time="

bunch of fancams floating around. some videos of the prep from ayoung's youtube channel too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wng6MeX2Lis" data-time="
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"Produce 101 #15 Kim Sohee has signed an exclusive contract with nCH Entertainment and will join NATURE as their new member"
https://twitter.com/OH_mes2/status/1181375196906704896

whoa did not expect this

+ gaga left officially, which is more expected
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it's so good. there's a moment it drops out and i was worried we were getting a minimalist beat drop chorus or something, but then a fucking marching band comes in.
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https://twitter.com/MiyukatSquad/status/1182160939396677634
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGf9Q1LU4AEmpUf.png

the delayed yoon jong shin monthly project with miyu is finally happening ;_;
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Takeuchi Miyu - My Type (Yoon Jong Shin Monthly Project 2019 October) teaser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9eeA4_l118" data-time="

yess
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Ateez - Wonderland (gap crush)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdqHP1wHN1Q" data-time="

good ol' gap crush.

Limesoda - Wave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0cUDqwAWLM" data-time="

SuperM - 2 Fast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsHIH9ig-rU" data-time="

SuperM - I Can't Stand the Rain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rom0oQPBrAk" data-time="

ONF - All Day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll7e0SyshZs" data-time="

it's been less than 2 weeks and i think i can already make a better top 10 than the last few months.
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http://www.asianjunkie.com/2019/10/13/sulli-has-passed-away-at-25/

fucking christ
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i literally just started following her IG yesterday

RIP
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My stomach just kind of dropped because it's one of the few times I knew of the person/followed them.

Fucking hell

Holy shit

RIP

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listening to f(x) on Spotify

damn chocolate love is a blast to the past
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spent the day at work just listening to their entire discography

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listening to sulli's album from earlier this year, which i highly recommend and glad we got. absolutely devastated still.

Lim Hyunsik - Dear Love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2TQIyjyrKk" data-time="

other than that i'm digging this today, as expected from the father of music.
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starship is planning WJSN's schedule around dodging the IOI reunion: a conspiracy theory
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(G)I-DLE - Say No / Put It Straight (Nightmare ver.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TorT6Rgl-Kc" data-time="

this might end up being the only (g)i-dle song on my year-end list, but at least it might be on there twice.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQELp93xxfo" data-time="

japanese twice has been good this year!

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loving the txt and day6 comebacks. as far as beat drop choruses go, alexa's isn't too bad, but it's overall pretty forgettable, and yeah, not into it much.

will check out those album tracks after i'm done looping this:

Takeuchi Miyu - My Type (Monthly Project 2019 October Yoon Jong Shin)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5-TRr51Jx8" data-time="

<3
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hey good for alex, but didn't care much for the song

debating if I should go see tiffany next week. Seems like it should be a no brainer, since tickets are $35 and it's in a super small venue so any spot will be good. Wonder if she does any GG stuff at her shows.

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did they not tease this at all or did i just miss it:

Ariaz - Moonlight Aria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QISipqxMXxU" data-time="

yess hyogyeong finally

nice song too - love me some e.one
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WJSN - Tempo (all-rounder idol dance cover)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EooyEQ6Nelk" data-time="

these have been great, and also filmed long enough ago that it's new OT10 content
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day6 album is solid as a whole. highlights for me are 'emergency' and 'not fine'.

and on the queendom finale tracks:

Guerilla > Lion > Destiny > Moonlight > Sorry > Wanna Go Back
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huh

woojin left stray kids
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this is happening a lot lately, huh? hwall left the boyz a week ago, but at least that was due to injury. laun left onf a month ago, also right before a comeback and without explanation.

anyways, nothing to speculate on - hope everything's okay
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definitely seems to be happening a lot more.

just got back from seeing tiffany; sang her stuff, wrecking ball -_- , and run devil run!

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admittedly only been paying attention to her american career in passing, but sounds nice!

and rdr hell yes. we may never get another season of produce (for good reason), but prior to that i was thinking about an rdr vs. oh! battle now that they've broken from having teams compete with the same song.
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I agree that would have been cool to see, I never liked seeing them compete with the same song.

Now to figure out if I should go see Amber in January since she's coming to town now - and VIP tickets are still available!

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Taeyeon - Spark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP4ga_fNm-E" data-time="

really dig this

Brown Eyed Girls - Wonder Woman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q3RoDYObOA" data-time="

funky~

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http://www.asianjunkie.com/2019/10/30/starship-entertainment-announces-wonho-will-leave-monsta-x/

goddamn

details are missing ofc, but it does sounds like he had a rough past, but served his time as a minor and managed to turn his life around, only to have it all that brought back on him now. they only thing that's sus is the money he supposedly owes, but we don't know the circumstances there either.
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thinking out loud about kingdom now that queendom is over:

queendom's line-up has two veteran groups who are sort of entering a new phase, two fairly well-established mid-tier groups, a rising rookie, and a current top tier group. mamamoo aside, these are groups from very different stages in their careers, so less direct comparisons, and with no massive disparities in popularity. mamamoo is ofc well ahead and the inevitable winner from day 1 but it's good because the competition isn't the point, exposure is the point, and having a top group in there is beneficial to all except maybe mamamoo, but at least they get the prize. also it being entirely predictable might have persuaded at least some to argue less about results and just see it as a venue for performances, remixes, and interactions.

so thoughts on a kingdom line-up, mostly going like for like, though the metrics for boy group success are different. the show isn't about getting a nugu group their break, but rather works because all the groups are decently popular already. it keeps the stakes low, while also being momentous enough to get viewers. round one is a hit song, so the group needs to at least have a hit.

(ofc, while queendom's format is good, absolutely all the changes between pd101 seasons 1 and 2 made the show more competitive and less fun, so if mnet did kingdom they would probably fuck it up anyway)

AOA - Teen Top
trouble is most of the still active boy groups with this level of seniority are missing key members due to military service, but teen top debuted young so they're still all present. i'd like this for them even with more options, though. no one thinks about them anymore, so some renewed interest like AOA got would be nice. they were well-known for their performances (esp. their footwork) so they're a good fit. they had hits back in the day too - new gen kpop fans need to know about 'crazy', which i'm guessing would be their round 1 song. also we don't have to, but if we're looking for AOA parallels specifically, they're also working with less members than before, and are the boy group equivalent to AOA when it comes to getting the best brave brothers songs.

the other possible group for this slot is nu'est but i don't know if they'd want to be on another survival show even if it's very different. it's a much more reasonable choice if you don't consider teen top relevant enough for this show relative to AOA's current standing, but idk maybe it's okay to put more weight on past popularity than current popularity for this slot, and teen top was at least mid-tier. plus nu'est already revived their careers so what have they to gain.

Park Bom - Jang Hyunseung
oh god. first of all, a solo artist is sort of an ill fit for the show, especially one who's fairly limited in the type of performance she can give like bom. i can see them scrapping this slot for one more group but if they keep it then hey, you know who's a veteran boy group member turned solo artist who was also derailed somewhat by scandal, but with the added bonus of not having to sit out the dance performance? i don't know if he'd want this, i don't know if i want this, i definitely don't want this to be his first activity out of the military. ideally he'd have a song or two out beforehand like bom. i am nervous about the response so i'm torn between hyunseung and literally anyone else, but if we're in a place where we know he'd be fine then it could be cool. hit song is a hurdle though, since that's going to have to be a beast song and his relation to that material is a bit fraught, but god, can you imagine the fandora's box round with 'home' performed for the first time and with the choreography it was supposed to have?

alternatively idk, a SS501 member? or super junior's sungmin which would be pretty funny.
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Mamamoo - BTOB Squad
i mean, without any additional context, if asked who the boy group equivalent of mamamoo is, the answer would invariably be BTOB, right? with 3 members missing, they're not as obvious a draw as mamamoo, but the comparison is still apt because they have that wide appeal and public recognition like mamamoo, rather than just a large fandom. i also think it helps a bit in both cases because they're slightly less conventional vocal-based groups, which make it less of a straightforward stomping, though it's less likely to be that compared to mamamoo. like if they win, it's not winning by doing what the other groups are doing, only to greater success. it's like how both groups are certainly popular enough, but were never used in the 1st round of a produce show, where they're looking for balanced performance to set a standard.

winner could work here too, but i don't see that happening. beyond that we're just looking at big fandoms.

Lovelyz - Pentagon
yeah, i'm abandoning all reason and just turning this into a fantasy line-up but hear me out.
i wouldn't say pentagon is well-established or mid-tier but they do, however, have a hit. i'm choosing them for the narrative - of the group that was threatening to have a breakthrough but hit a setback, of a producer who has made multiple hits for other survival shows and now competes in one himself. i'm putting them in the lovelyz slot because they're here to prove something and change perceptions, except whereas lovelyz wanted to prove they can do other concepts, pentagon is here to show that they're not doomed. they can also go in the (g)i-dle slot since it's about seeing hui (maybe kino?) work their magic, though self-producing isn't an anomaly with boy groups like it is with girl groups. hui actually already gets attention whenever he shows up solo on a singing show and usually with some cool remix no less, so it's perfect.

actually the hit song criteria is a bit tough, because boy groups rely more on fandom meaning they can chug along fine for many years without a public hit. the ones who chart digitally are either anomalous or have massive fandoms, and they still might not chart that high. the mid-tier for boygroups is closer to got7 and monsta x, and that's probably who you actually need for the show to succeed, so alright-

Oh My Girls - Got7 / Monsta X

both instead of pentagon, if we're being rational, but come on

also both especially because i have three cube acts otherwise.

(G)I-DLE - Ateez / TXT / AB6IX / Stray Kids

any one of these would do for the rookie slot i think. personally would prefer ateez or stray kids.
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