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loweffortmemes
05/18/19 9:59:10 PM
#51:


GANON1025 posted...
Isn't Katawa Shoujo the 4chan VN?

It was made by a group of people that originally met on 4chan, if my memory's correct. That's pretty much the main connection to 4chan, I believe.
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KamikazePotato
05/18/19 10:01:04 PM
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Arti posted...
well

those are also on vndb

Huh. So they are. Rated about as well as they should be, too.
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MasaomiHouzuki
05/18/19 10:02:36 PM
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Wonderful Everyday was the first thing I read in Japanese, it's fantastic, it's mind opening and it's one of my favorite works of fiction ever. It's been translated, but basically no one has read it :(

The dialogue is extremely snappy, the main female protagonist is consistently hilarious and not-an-idiot.

One of the central problems of talking about it is that it's difficult to say what it's about without spoilers, other than to say the first chapter is not at all representative.

Also dies irae is incredibly cool and satisfying and basically perfects the art of "people fighting in ways that represent their character / ideology".

If I had to say what people from this topic would consistently like, it'd be Dies Irae, but man, if you want something one of a kind that makes you think laugh and cry I think Wonderful Everyday deserves the chance to know about it.
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MasaomiHouzuki
05/18/19 10:04:01 PM
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Oh and yeah if you pay attention to vmgc it's also the game starring this track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZWd_7Ud-Lc" data-time="
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pyresword
05/18/19 10:06:46 PM
#55:


Arti posted...
pyresword posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
I have a local friend who swears by Underwater Ray Romano. Didn't know it was actually a VN.

Well...
pyresword posted...
I don't really consider the Utawarerumono games VN's, but they're listed on vndb so whatever

I don't really think they are. They're SRPG's that have a lot more text and dialogue than your typical SRPG. (Like reading an hour's worth of text or more in between battles is pretty common.)


That's similar to the Tears to Tiara series, of which one game (II: Heir of the Overlord) on the PS3 was localized.

I think Tears to Tiara and Utawarerumono are both made by the same company so yeah that's not too surprising.
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KamikazePotato
05/18/19 10:17:55 PM
#56:


MasaomiHouzuki posted...
Wonderful Everyday was the first thing I read in Japanese, it's fantastic, it's mind opening and it's one of my favorite works of fiction ever. It's been translated, but basically no one has read it :(

Apparently it's one of the highest rated on VNDB and it has an okay amount of ratings!

Browsing this site is fascinating. Why does Saya no Uta almost have as many ratings as Fate/Stay Night. What is Muv-Luv Alternatuve. Why is Umineko Chiru rated almost as highly as the original.
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GANON1025
05/18/19 10:19:55 PM
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Saya no Uta, never played it and god willing I never will
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loweffortmemes
05/18/19 10:22:57 PM
#58:


MasaomiHouzuki posted...
Wonderful Everyday was the first thing I read in Japanese, it's fantastic, it's mind opening and it's one of my favorite works of fiction ever. It's been translated, but basically no one has read it :(.


I'm actually pretty far into it, but I took a break from it for reasons unrelated to the game. I left off towards the beginning of the final chapter. Admittedly, quite a bit of stuff has been going over my head, but I will agree that what I did understand, I found pretty thought-provoking. As of right now, where I feel like I'd end up ranking it is pretty hard to tell for a few reasons, but perhaps whenever I get around to finishing all the endings, I'll have a clearer idea!
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Arti
05/18/19 10:27:58 PM
#59:


GANON1025 posted...
Saya no Uta, never played it and god willing I never will


probably a good idea, I regret doing so myself
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Sceptilesolar
05/18/19 10:41:44 PM
#60:


I read Subarashiki Hibi, but I wouldn't put it in my favorites. There was a lot going on in it, though, and I did enjoy it a lot. I'm not sure I can forgive End Sky 2 though. There were also some really uncomfortable parts, like Saya level 'I'm hesitant to recommend this to other humans'. There's a hell of a lot to unpack and I don't know if I ever really did.

Edit: Also I read Dies Irae too but didn't find it anything special outside of good battle scenes. The main character was also insufferable.
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Mac Arrowny
05/18/19 10:58:27 PM
#61:


Wonderful Everyday has some neat things about it, but I wouldn't call it great.

KamikazePotato posted...
MasaomiHouzuki posted...
Wonderful Everyday was the first thing I read in Japanese, it's fantastic, it's mind opening and it's one of my favorite works of fiction ever. It's been translated, but basically no one has read it :(

Apparently it's one of the highest rated on VNDB and it has an okay amount of ratings!

Browsing this site is fascinating. Why does Saya no Uta almost have as many ratings as Fate/Stay Night. What is Muv-Luv Alternatuve. Why is Umineko Chiru rated almost as highly as the original.


1. Because it's a 4 hour long game and it came out many years ago

2. The climax of Muv-Luv. It is amazing but the first Muv-Luv is not so good (it's out on Vita too I think?)

3. Probably because it's a sequel and sequels are almost guaranteed higher ratings because of all the people who play the first part, rate it low, and never touch the sequel.
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Arti
05/19/19 1:02:50 AM
#62:


Mac Arrowny posted...
2. The climax of Muv-Luv. It is amazing but the first Muv-Luv is not so good (it's out on Vita too I think?)


didn't I talk to you as I was playing the entire trilogy on Vita
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KamikazePotato
05/19/19 2:07:38 AM
#63:


Is it necessary to play the first Muv-Luv before the second?

That art looks pretty bad but I played Umineko, so.
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Mac Arrowny
05/19/19 2:12:17 AM
#64:


KamikazePotato posted...
Is it necessary to play the first Muv-Luv before the second?

That art looks pretty bad but I played Umineko, so.


Yeah. Playing Alternative before the first ML would be kinda like playing Umineko 3 without playing the first two.

Arti posted...
Mac Arrowny posted...
2. The climax of Muv-Luv. It is amazing but the first Muv-Luv is not so good (it's out on Vita too I think?)


didn't I talk to you as I was playing the entire trilogy on Vita


Haha yeah I know it's on Vita I originally typed something there about it maybe being on PS3/PS4 but deleted it and everything ended up garbled.
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MasaomiHouzuki
05/19/19 3:12:17 AM
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Sceptilesolar posted...
I read Subarashiki Hibi, but I wouldn't put it in my favorites. There was a lot going on in it, though, and I did enjoy it a lot. I'm not sure I can forgive End Sky 2 though. There were also some really uncomfortable parts, like Saya level 'I'm hesitant to recommend this to other humans'. There's a hell of a lot to unpack and I don't know if I ever really did.

Edit: Also I read Dies Irae too but didn't find it anything special outside of good battle scenes. The main character was also insufferable.


Oh yeah I probably should have put a content warning on Wonderful everyday. Isn't there an all ages patch though?

Wonderful Every day spoilers: Endsky 2 isn't really about resolving the stories or about the characters, and in that sense, yeah, it's extremely disappointing, but the thing that I enjoyed a lot from it was when you start reading the last line and the extremely ending sequence starts scrolling. I don't think any other game has ever given me that level of despair and hollowness and that moment is special enough for me to remember vividly like eight years later.

Dies Irae and fate stay night spoilers: Is especially great because on the surface level there's such a hodgepodge of stuff; like the metafictional winking by Mercurius, the personal character arcs that basically everyone has, all of it, interweaves into each other and plays a role in every fight's outcome and role in the plot. It's like Fate's UBW moment except stretched out over 4 glorious routes. I agree that if you don't like the main character the themes won't do much for you, but I don't think any battle shounen has made me so actively wish for the protagonist to triumph because he's the protagonist, rather than because of other factors.

I think it also says a lot that with the exception of maybe two or three characters, everyone with more than two scenes has been a favorite of someone who played Dies Irae.
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KamikazePotato
05/20/19 11:25:48 AM
#66:


Don't know if I have the time/mental fortitude to go through a bad 30-50 hour VN for the sake of a good one, but if I get the VN itch I'll keep it in mind.
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Mac Arrowny
05/20/19 1:40:00 PM
#67:


Completely fair, though Extra should only take 10 to 12 hours if you only do the main routes. Liberal use of the skip button is advised, too.
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Xiahou Shake
05/20/19 1:46:07 PM
#68:


This topic made me realize I've read more VNs than I felt like I had, huh. Nowhere near some others on this board, though!

Let me echo the folks singing the praises of Utawarerumono. It's really, really great. The second and third parts combine to make probably my favorite VN story ever! The first part is finally getting an official English release via the remake next year so I'd encourage anyone curious to use that to jump in!
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FL81
05/20/19 2:33:50 PM
#69:


Umineko, Katawa Shoujo, DDLC, and Highway Blossoms are the only ones I've finished (currently reading Kindred Spirits on the Roof). I've probably have seen at least a dozen or two anime adaptations of VNs if those count. I even have a whole ton of unread ones in my Steam library, but I find it difficult to muster up the motivation to tackle my backlog, though it is something I want to do one day.
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KamikazePotato
05/26/19 7:23:40 PM
#70:


Hmmm....up?
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Arti
05/26/19 7:51:29 PM
#71:


to those that were wondering about Fata Morgana, physical copies for PS4/Vita will be up this Friday on limitedrungames, and the download version is coming on Tuesday
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GANON1025
05/26/19 7:55:35 PM
#72:


Yep!

https://limitedrungames.com/collections/neo-frontpage/products/limited-run-259-the-house-in-fata-morgana-collectors-edition-ps4

I made a topic about it but NO ONE cared. I guess only use True VN Experts will take notice of this.
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KamikazePotato
05/26/19 9:00:55 PM
#73:


I already bought the game and the artbook and the soundtrack all separately, so...
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GANON1025
05/26/19 9:14:36 PM
#74:


If you were a true Michelhead you'd buy them again
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KamikazePotato
05/26/19 10:56:00 PM
#75:


Well...there is a poster......
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GANON1025
05/28/19 8:31:26 AM
#76:


Here's a vaguely spoilery trailer for the release:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei8JRwVXauw" data-time="

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Arti
05/31/19 10:10:23 AM
#77:


Grabbed the Vita CE of it on limitedrungames at 10 AM.

Sold out five minutes later, both the CE and the regular physical copy.
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Eerieka
05/31/19 10:15:11 AM
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fucking shit, I wanted to get the special edition. Went on at 10:00 AM sharp, but traffic was so bad my computer stalled and then it was sold out. Fuck my life. Got the regular edition
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KamikazePotato
05/31/19 10:18:54 AM
#79:


The PS4 CE version still has copies available.
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Eerieka
05/31/19 10:23:07 AM
#80:


Oh snap, KamikazePotato saving my sanity. I swear it said it was sold out on PS4 as well, but I think I got it. Still waiting for confirmation email

Edit: YES YES YES, I GOT IT. THANK YOU KAMIKAZE POTATO, I AM IN YOUR DEBT. So now I have a regular Vita version and the PS4 CE version. I don't actually want the PS4 game, so maybe I'll do a giveaway or something later.

Edit 2: Actually no, in my haste to get ANYTHING, I actually got the regular PS4 version the first time, so no Vita version. Oh well.
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KamikazePotato
05/31/19 10:37:53 AM
#81:


Sucks about the Vita version, but at least you got all that sweet CE swag. I have the artbook and it's probably the best artbook for anything I've ever gotten, I actually open it up and look through it every now and then instead of just have it collecting dust in a corner.
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GANON1025
05/31/19 10:39:39 AM
#82:


The collectors edition sold out on me before I could get it. Ill have to try later on!
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KamikazePotato
05/31/19 10:39:46 AM
#83:


@Eerieka
@GANON1025

The page currently has a message saying there might be more copies available at 6 PM EST.
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KamikazePotato
05/31/19 10:43:56 AM
#84:


Also is it just me or did this sell out really fast for a niche game?
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Eerieka
05/31/19 10:48:19 AM
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I don't have a lot of experience with Limited Run Games. If they say they will only sell 2 copies per person, is that by edition or by game? So since I bought two copies, but one is PS4 regular and one is PS4 CE, can I also try to buy the Vita CE or regular?

And yeah, it did run out really damn fast. I knew it was popular "for a visual novel" but that's not saying much. I thought Siralim 2 was popular "for a monster breeding sim" and it didn't sell out in five minutes...
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GANON1025
05/31/19 10:48:38 AM
#86:


Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I mean I guess its only 500 for each release window, but I still thought this would be easy to get.
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Arti
05/31/19 10:51:29 AM
#87:


The two copies per person is by edition. So you can buy 2 copies of the PS4 game, PS4 CE, Vita game, and Vita CE if you really wanted to.
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Eerieka
05/31/19 10:53:45 AM
#88:


Arti posted...
The two copies per person is by edition. So you can buy 2 copies of the PS4 game, PS4 CE, Vita game, and Vita CE if you really wanted to.


Thanks. I'll try to snag either version for Vita. I dunno what I'll do with my PS4 versions. Maybe give them to someone who missed out.
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KamikazePotato
05/31/19 10:57:52 AM
#89:


The PS4 versions don't even have an order limit!

GANON1025 posted...
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I mean I guess its only 500 for each release window, but I still thought this would be easy to get.

I was planning to get a copy of one 'when I felt like it'. Oops.
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KamikazePotato
05/31/19 11:00:10 AM
#90:


Eerieka posted...
Arti posted...
The two copies per person is by edition. So you can buy 2 copies of the PS4 game, PS4 CE, Vita game, and Vita CE if you really wanted to.


Thanks. I'll try to snag either version for Vita. I dunno what I'll do with my PS4 versions. Maybe give them to someone who missed out.

Is it possible to cancel any of your orders? So you're not buying it, you know, three times. >_>
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Eerieka
05/31/19 11:01:46 AM
#91:


There probably is a way, but I don't mind. I've got money to burn and if I can gift it to someone who really wants a copy, I'd be happy to.
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GANON1025
05/31/19 11:04:56 AM
#92:


I didnt think there were 500 Fata Morgana fans period, mich less 500 that would buy this CE lol
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KamikazePotato
05/31/19 11:06:53 AM
#93:


That's very generous of you! Good luck with that - I have an extra Steam key for Fata Morgana and I literally can't give it away to any of my local friends. They don't like reading, apparently.
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Arti
05/31/19 11:17:07 AM
#94:


reading is hard

also, all of the store pages say that all sales are final and cannot be cancelled.
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Tom Bombadil
05/31/19 11:34:11 AM
#95:


drv3 near top

ever17 not bottom

yeah ok bud
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KamikazePotato
05/31/19 11:39:59 AM
#96:


Excuse you Tom, please don't post off topic in the Fata Morgana Stats and Discussion thread
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GANON1025
05/31/19 12:01:21 PM
#97:


Whos the VN Expert here???
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LapisLazuli
05/31/19 3:04:59 PM
#98:


So, uh...I'd be very interested in that extra PS4 key if you're offering! I've been looking forward to this for a long time and got totally blindsided with this sudden release announcement.

Hell, I don't even see where to by a digital PS4 version yet, so no idea where you got it.
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Mac Arrowny
05/31/19 3:14:25 PM
#99:


No one has an extra PS4 key. Reread the post.
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KamikazePotato
05/31/19 3:24:49 PM
#100:


While stock shortages are unfortunate, this is still kinda heartwarming:

https://twitter.com/Novectacle_EN/status/1134461331568975873
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