Poll of the Day > Epic is blowing millions on "mega sale"

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BlackScythe0
05/17/19 4:27:33 PM
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So apparently they are running a normal sale like steam with developers... but then they are using their own money to take another $10 off any game over 14.99.

They are going to spend millions leading up to E3 where they will surely be announcing some more exclusives.

I thinking about downloading the epic store. Even though I know what they are doing.
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Mead
05/17/19 4:36:09 PM
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So youre saying theres about to be new videos from Jim Sterling and yongyea
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Nichtcrawler X
05/17/19 4:42:26 PM
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Checked it out, how do I actually properly navigate that site?
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Oops_All_Berrys
05/17/19 4:44:12 PM
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Now if only they had a shopping cart
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BlackScythe0
05/17/19 4:48:13 PM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
Checked it out, how do I actually properly navigate that site?


I'm not sure. There is a reason a number of the complaints were legitimate.
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ninja_lootz
05/17/19 5:01:55 PM
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You can't even sort by genre or publisher?
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EvilMegas
05/17/19 8:49:57 PM
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Like Mead said. Jim Sterling tore through the Epic store an how it has a "roadmap" to have even the most basic functions, like a fucking shopping cart
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Bulbasaur
05/17/19 9:04:10 PM
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this is a great way to get borderlands 3, if you were going to buy it on pc anyways.
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wwinterj25
05/17/19 9:32:00 PM
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Mead posted...
So youre saying theres about to be new videos from Jim Sterling and yongyea

Always is. Mostly covering the same story over and over. Still at least Jim has other content.
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DPsx7
05/17/19 10:34:55 PM
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It's cool that someone is stepping in to put an end to the Steam malware. I'm probably not going back to PC anyway.
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CacciatoPart3
05/17/19 10:37:50 PM
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DPsx7 posted...
It's cool that someone is stepping in to put an end to the Steam malware. I'm probably not going back to PC anyway.

I dont know if anyones ever asked you this before, but why do you think Steam is malware?

Also do you have a cellphone?
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BlackScythe0
05/17/19 10:45:45 PM
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DPsx7 posted...
It's cool that someone is stepping in to put an end to the Steam malware. I'm probably not going back to PC anyway.


If steam is malware how is epic not?
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DPsx7
05/17/19 10:51:09 PM
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CacciatoPart3 posted...
DPsx7 posted...
It's cool that someone is stepping in to put an end to the Steam malware. I'm probably not going back to PC anyway.

I dont know if anyones ever asked you this before, but why do you think Steam is malware?

Also do you have a cellphone?


How many alts do you have? Troll...

Don't make me write the story again. I've explained to countless people over the years. The cliffnotes version is I installed the game from a disc, unaware of the disease it was DL'ing. It blocked me from playing, forced an update that broke the game, constantly phoned home and hogged resources, it was just not good.

Hell no.
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DPsx7
05/17/19 10:52:46 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
DPsx7 posted...
It's cool that someone is stepping in to put an end to the Steam malware. I'm probably not going back to PC anyway.


If steam is malware how is epic not?


For starters Epic is a dev and I was a fan of UT. Whatever their service is called, I didn't say it wasn't malware. For what it's worth EA has their digital store too and I wouldn't trust that either.
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BlackScythe0
05/18/19 12:52:45 AM
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DPsx7 posted...
CacciatoPart3 posted...
DPsx7 posted...
It's cool that someone is stepping in to put an end to the Steam malware. I'm probably not going back to PC anyway.

I dont know if anyones ever asked you this before, but why do you think Steam is malware?

Also do you have a cellphone?


How many alts do you have? Troll...

Don't make me write the story again. I've explained to countless people over the years. The cliffnotes version is I installed the game from a disc, unaware of the disease it was DL'ing. It blocked me from playing, forced an update that broke the game, constantly phoned home and hogged resources, it was just not good.

Hell no.


TLDR He's upset that games use DRM
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RoboXgp89
05/18/19 1:20:14 AM
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the whole complaint against it is dumb
if you like videogames
you can support developers by using their interface, it's not a big deal

my only gripe is the shopping cart and it not having a big picture mode to use controllers with it
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ChaosAzeroth
05/18/19 1:46:59 AM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
if you like videogames
you can support developers by using their interface, it's not a big deal


I like video games.

I also don't like playing on PC enough to use another store. I have a FEW games on steam, and access to probably 60+ more due to the ability to share libraries.

Not moving to another store that's bare bones and strong arming rather than actually making their store worth using, thanks all the same.

If they put half the effort into their storefront as they were snatching up crowdfunded games to make them 'timed exclusives' after they were already backed with the understanding that people would be able to play on another platform when it came out, their store might be worth two craps. But instead, they're throwing all this money into pushing people into using their store rather than making the storefront worth anyone's time.

Wonder why people would be upset about that...
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DPsx7
05/18/19 3:04:33 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
TLDR He's upset that games use DRM


Who wouldn't be? DRM is nothing more than a means of locking people away from content they've purchased. And all I did was try to play while the internet was down. So yeah through their own poor design Steam taught us they cannot be trusted.
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CarrieChan
05/18/19 3:06:05 AM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
Checked it out, how do I actually properly navigate that site?

Have to agree the site navigation is pretty bad. I couldn't find a search function, if there is one. The sale also doesn't seem that good either.
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BlackScythe0
05/18/19 3:06:06 AM
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DPsx7 posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
TLDR He's upset that games use DRM


Who wouldn't be? DRM is nothing more than a means of locking people away from content they've purchased. And all I did was try to play while the internet was down. So yeah through their own poor design Steam taught us they cannot be trusted.


Steam has never wronged me. Other forms of DRM have.
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Bulbasaur
05/18/19 3:37:52 AM
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DPsx7 posted...
And all I did was try to play while the internet was down.

you should have clicked offline mode then
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DPsx7
05/18/19 9:23:51 AM
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Bulbasaur posted...
DPsx7 posted...
And all I did was try to play while the internet was down.

you should have clicked offline mode then


Doesn't exist. Was the first thing I looked for. Duh. As I've said broadband was new to the area at the time, could be down for an hour or a day. I wanted to finish the game. Steam and anyone who trusts it are trash.
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_AdjI_
05/18/19 9:38:29 AM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
the whole complaint against it is dumb
if you like videogames
you can support developers by using their interface, it's not a big deal

my only gripe is the shopping cart and it not having a big picture mode to use controllers with it


The primary complaint is that they're competing by throwing money at developers to make competitors' services worse, rather than making a competitive service of their own. As it stands now, the Epic Store wouldn't be up to par for an online marketplace if it were 2004, let alone 2019, and coercing gamers to use such an inferior service by holding games ransom behind exclusivity deals is naturally going to rub people the wrong way. There are also some very legitimate concerns about the privacy implications of Tencent's influence over the company, as well as a number of security concerns.

Conceptually, I welcome some real competition for Steam. Their effective near-monopoly on the PC market has led to them becoming complacent, which shows in the abject lack of quality control they've been exercising over their library lately. In a lot of ways, Epic has the potential to offer that, given their improved revenue share and the fact that developers don't have to share a New Releases section with Rape Day. It'd just be nice if they were a little less anti-consumer about it. Healthy competition is a matter of having a better product, not having more capital and being able to absorb more losses while starving out competitors.

DPsx7 posted...
Doesn't exist.


Objectively false.
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EvilMegas
05/18/19 9:50:41 AM
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Why are you guys even bothering?

Why am I even bothering?
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Nade Duck
05/18/19 9:58:29 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
DPsx7 posted...
CacciatoPart3 posted...
DPsx7 posted...
It's cool that someone is stepping in to put an end to the Steam malware. I'm probably not going back to PC anyway.

I dont know if anyones ever asked you this before, but why do you think Steam is malware?

Also do you have a cellphone?


How many alts do you have? Troll...

Don't make me write the story again. I've explained to countless people over the years. The cliffnotes version is I installed the game from a disc, unaware of the disease it was DL'ing. It blocked me from playing, forced an update that broke the game, constantly phoned home and hogged resources, it was just not good.

Hell no.


TLDR He's upset that games use DRM

tldr he's a fuckin idiot
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DANTE20XX
05/18/19 10:35:19 AM
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EvilMegas posted...
Why are you guys even bothering?

Why am I even bothering?

This

Just ignore dsp everytime he mentions something like this. He's convinced himself already it's smart, you won't break that.
EvilMegas posted...
Like Mead said. Jim Sterling tore through the Epic store an how it has a "roadmap" to have even the most basic functions, like a fucking shopping cart

There's a very simple reason for that - they don't care about the customers. What's his name has been on record saying something to this effect several times. They believe the epic store is just fine right now for gamers. IE: You can give them money and it works.
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dioxxys
05/18/19 10:49:33 AM
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DPsx7 posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
TLDR He's upset that games use DRM


Who wouldn't be? DRM is nothing more than a means of locking people away from content they've purchased. And all I did was try to play while the internet was down. So yeah through their own poor design Steam taught us they cannot be trusted.

Lol dude I know you can play most steam games offline. I would know, I spent nine months playing games with my gaming PC up in the mountains with no internet connection. The rules to play them offline are simple. One, you have to have booted up that game once before with internet. Two, the developer needs to not require internet to play their game. I think in the nine months I spent without internet the only game I couldn't boot up were call of duty games and maybe one or two more out of like 100+ games. Then probably several months in I needed to borrow someone's cellular hotspot once to boot steam.
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Marcster1994
05/18/19 12:04:23 PM
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Even better, if you want to opt out of their sale, you have to Remove your game from the store.

Ubisoft games dont work either. What an absolute shitshow.
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BlackScythe0
05/18/19 3:16:25 PM
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dioxxys posted...
DPsx7 posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
TLDR He's upset that games use DRM


Who wouldn't be? DRM is nothing more than a means of locking people away from content they've purchased. And all I did was try to play while the internet was down. So yeah through their own poor design Steam taught us they cannot be trusted.

Lol dude I know you can play most steam games offline. I would know, I spent nine months playing games with my gaming PC up in the mountains with no internet connection. The rules to play them offline are simple. One, you have to have booted up that game once before with internet. Two, the developer needs to not require internet to play their game. I think in the nine months I spent without internet the only game I couldn't boot up were call of duty games and maybe one or two more out of like 100+ games. Then probably several months in I needed to borrow someone's cellular hotspot once to boot steam.


I took it to be him whining he bought a physical game from a store that required steam and didn't have internet which honestly is relatively uncommon situation to be in.

But yea steam has an offline mode and doesn't do any of the shit like Ubisoft was putting into their games before steam started taking over.
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DPsx7
05/18/19 6:21:07 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...
DPsx7 posted...
Doesn't exist.


Objectively false.


You're wrong, thanks for trying.

dioxxys posted...
Lol dude I know you can play most steam games offline. I would know, I spent nine months playing games with my gaming PC up in the mountains with no internet connection. The rules to play them offline are simple. One, you have to have booted up that game once before with internet. Two, the developer needs to not require internet to play their game. I think in the nine months I spent without internet the only game I couldn't boot up were call of duty games and maybe one or two more out of like 100+ games. Then probably several months in I needed to borrow someone's cellular hotspot once to boot steam.


Did both. Whatever it DL'ed during setup was online obviously. And because HL2 was a SP game there's no reason it should demand a connection. So you guys can make all the excuses in the world, but it's not gonna change the fact that Steam is hot garbage. I wanted to play a game I paid for, it wouldn't let me, and you've pretty much heard the rest. Steam is a big reason why I moved to consoles and prefer discs. No trust.
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DPsx7
05/18/19 6:29:11 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
I took it to be him whining he bought a physical game from a store that required steam and didn't have internet which honestly is relatively uncommon situation to be in.

But yea steam has an offline mode and doesn't do any of the shit like Ubisoft was putting into their games before steam started taking over.


I did buy the disc. I had internet but like I said broadband was new in the area at the time and they were still working out the kinks. Who knew what Steam was back then? Lots of games needed side software, be it Direct X, Gamespy, whatever. You figure 'meh, as long as the game works I can remove it when I'm done'. There was no way to know the harm that was being unleashed. Literally it was the first time I couldn't play a game outside of a power outage. Only took a little while to discover Steam was the source of my trouble and thankfully it didn't spread to my other games like UT, Quake, Worms, etc.
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_AdjI_
05/18/19 7:48:29 PM
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DPsx7 posted...
You're wrong, thanks for trying.


I literally enabled offline mode last night. No issues playing the games I wanted to play. Ergo, your statement that offline mode doesn't exist is objectively false. You're welcome to try proving me wrong, but I know you won't be able to.
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DANTE20XX
05/18/19 8:00:28 PM
#33:


_AdjI_ posted...
our statement that offline mode doesn't exist is objectively false.

Don't you dare say Lord DPsx7 is wrong. He's never wrong!
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wolfy42
05/18/19 8:07:59 PM
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DPsx7,

If your not just trolling, then, did you ever consider that if steam was brand new, you might have just hit a temporary problem and tried to figure out how to fix it?

Tons of people (including myself) have played many steam games while in offline mode. It's easy, and it works with all non-online only games (MMO's etc).

Also, it may not even have been a bug, since you stated that your broadband was intermittant back then, you can download stuff just fine if the internet goes in and out...because it just resumes. But if you need to connect to the internet with a game first to play in offline mode, and your broadband back then was down, you wouldn't have been able to play it....unless you tried again later when it was back up.

Whatever the case, arguing that steam is evil is insanely crazy at this point. You don't even have to buy ANY games anywhere near full price on steam to have an insanely amount of games...for practically nothing. Just buying Humble bundle etc deals, for $1 over the years would give you a freakton of amazing games that you paid hardly anything for....and the only way to get them ...for the most part, was through steam.

Add the fact that until recently the only way to get most of the big games at 75% off or more....was also through steam. You could get them with such a discount when they were still full price on consoles (and often when even other ways of getting pc versions of the game were still pretty close to full price).

Steam has proven itself, easily at this point. Don't get me wrong, it has problems, it didn't .......police...the games it sold well enough so in some cases crappy games that shouldn't be sold were put up.....but it ended up adding the ability to fully refund any game with less then 2 hours playtime (Think it's within 2 weeks as well). If a game is absolute garbage, you can refund it fully within 2 hours. That mostly solved it's biggest problem.

I honestly wish consoles would work more like steam, it has pretty much become the best platform for games in my opinion.
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DPsx7
05/18/19 8:41:52 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...
DPsx7 posted...
You're wrong, thanks for trying.


I literally enabled offline mode last night. No issues playing the games I wanted to play. Ergo, your statement that offline mode doesn't exist is objectively false. You're welcome to try proving me wrong, but I know you won't be able to.


Already did. HL2 doesn't work offline so whatever you think you're doing, that's not it.
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DPsx7
05/18/19 8:55:38 PM
#36:


To wolfy (the quote would be too big).

I've always said it's not trolling if I'm right. This was my experience. What possible reason could I have to make this up? It was temporary because over the course of a couple weeks (I had more than one problem with this) I did finish the game. Then proceeded to eradicate Steam from my PC. The forums were no help, got the boot.

If I was connected to DL stuff then why would it have to connect again? Hell, if it's an offline SP then why even connect in the first place? I'd understand perfectly if I was playing CS or something. Because things were up and down for a while I alternated between online UT/Quake and offline games. Until this fiasco anyway.

They screwed me and deserve to close. I wasn't going to be burned twice. Especially if this is what can happen with any digital content. They just take it away with no reason or refund. Then once you consider that physical discs drop in price way faster than digital it's almost silly to not stick with discs.

So yeah while I'm pretty much never going back to PC gaming at this point it's nice to know that somehow they're going to get what they deserve.
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_AdjI_
05/18/19 9:01:30 PM
#37:


DPsx7 posted...
Already did.


Again, objectively false.

DPsx7 posted...
HL2 doesn't work offline so whatever you think you're doing, that's not it.


Well now you're just moving the goalposts. "HL2 doesn't work offline" is a very different statement from "offline mode doesn't exist." No less objectively false, but a very different statement, and much less likely to be proven false by random personal interest tests (since most people aren't exactly playing HL2 in 2019).
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RoboXgp89
05/18/19 9:02:00 PM
#38:


everyone should pick up metro exodus and hades right now
a 80$ price down to 44.99
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funkyfritter
05/18/19 9:32:58 PM
#39:


Apparently borderlands 3 and several other games can't be purchased at all right now. They botched something up badly when they set up this sale, hopefully once the dust settles we'll have more information about exactly what happened.
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DPsx7
05/18/19 10:12:10 PM
#40:


_AdjI_ posted...
DPsx7 posted...
Already did.


Again, objectively false.

DPsx7 posted...
HL2 doesn't work offline so whatever you think you're doing, that's not it.


Well now you're just moving the goalposts. "HL2 doesn't work offline" is a very different statement from "offline mode doesn't exist." No less objectively false, but a very different statement, and much less likely to be proven false by random personal interest tests (since most people aren't exactly playing HL2 in 2019).


Not at all. HL2 was what I played and indeed an offline mode is not present. Nitpicking over wording is your way of moving goalposts without having any proof. My suggestion would be to learn what playing offline means, then compare to how Steam is the opposite of that. Like I said, whatever you're doing now isn't it. Sorry.
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DANTE20XX
05/18/19 10:13:25 PM
#41:


EvilMegas posted...
Why are you guys even bothering?

Why am I even bothering?

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_AdjI_
05/18/19 10:40:13 PM
#42:


DPsx7 posted...
HL2 was what I played and indeed an offline mode is not present.


Prove it.
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BlackScythe0
05/19/19 2:23:56 AM
#43:


DPsx7 posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
I took it to be him whining he bought a physical game from a store that required steam and didn't have internet which honestly is relatively uncommon situation to be in.

But yea steam has an offline mode and doesn't do any of the shit like Ubisoft was putting into their games before steam started taking over.


I did buy the disc. I had internet but like I said broadband was new in the area at the time and they were still working out the kinks. Who knew what Steam was back then? Lots of games needed side software, be it Direct X, Gamespy, whatever. You figure 'meh, as long as the game works I can remove it when I'm done'. There was no way to know the harm that was being unleashed. Literally it was the first time I couldn't play a game outside of a power outage. Only took a little while to discover Steam was the source of my trouble and thankfully it didn't spread to my other games like UT, Quake, Worms, etc.


You tell your story every chance you get but it always just sounds like a problem literally no one else has ever had and you realistically should have gotten over a long time ago.

But you hold a grudge. Damn do you hold that grudge.
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LOLIAmAnAlt
05/19/19 2:38:30 AM
#44:


DPsx7 posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
DPsx7 posted...
It's cool that someone is stepping in to put an end to the Steam malware. I'm probably not going back to PC anyway.


If steam is malware how is epic not?


For starters Epic is a dev and I was a fan of UT. Whatever their service is called, I didn't say it wasn't malware. For what it's worth EA has their digital store too and I wouldn't trust that either.

They are now owned by a chinese company who owns all the games. Probably malware.
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Noop_Noop
05/19/19 8:41:54 AM
#45:


Came here expecting dpsx to be a saltyboi who is bad with computers.

Found it almost immediately
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Cacciato
05/20/19 6:10:23 PM
#46:


DPsx7 posted...
I've always said it's not trolling if I'm right.

Between minervo and this guy, I'm not sure who ends up in purgatory more.
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Bulbasaur
05/20/19 6:51:33 PM
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DPsx7 posted...
For starters Epic is a dev


pretty sure valve is, too.
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Zareth
05/20/19 10:22:17 PM
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Epic is temporarily locking accounts who purchase too many games for "suspicious behavior."
Maybe it wouldn't happen if they had a fucking shopping cart.
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BlackScythe0
05/20/19 10:57:16 PM
#49:


Zareth posted...
Epic is temporarily locking accounts who purchase too many games for "suspicious behavior."
Maybe it wouldn't happen if they had a fucking shopping cart.

Epic is such a failure at this.

Why open a store and go so hard trying to compete when they don't even have basic features?
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ChaosAzeroth
05/20/19 11:38:30 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Why open a store and go so hard trying to compete when they don't even have basic features?


But are they really trying to compete, or just force people to use their store by buying up games as exclusives? (And then failing at that because they're just pissing people off.)

Seems to me their goal is to corner the market by exclusivity deals to try to become the top dog. I wouldn't call it competing if they're dropping more into pushing people to using their storefront than into basic freaking features personally. x3
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