Current Events > Picked up a shotgun.

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A Mossberg 590A1 Retrograde.
@545x39
I remember you liking the idea of the Retro, so here's some pics of mine:




The Retrograde line of shotguns is a welcome breath of fresh air from the very saturated tactical market where rails, angled grips, and red dot optics are the expected norm. This is the A1 version, with the metal trigger assembly, bayonet lug, safety, and thicker, more girthy 20" barrel. Been looking forward to these since they were announced, and I'm happy to see the walnut furniture was as sexy as I had imagined it.
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What a badass rebel!!!!
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Looks clean. What you gonna do with it?
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Not bad, I prefer more furniture on my guns but not to the point way to many tacticool idiots do now, keep it practical and efficient to your needs.
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Looks clean. What you gonna do with it?

Get it dirty, of course.

Debating a side saddle for some extra capacity, and to piss off a certain demographic, but most saddles I see don't look all that sturdy. A bayonet is most assuredly on the way as well.

Kinda want to get that SGA stock from Magpul, but I'm loving the walnut too much to change it so soon. Plus I can't seem to find any of those stocks and handguards in OD green, so that's also pushing that idea down.
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something about the 590a1 that i just dont like with wood. the thing was made to be used and abused hard.

I recommend the SGA magpul stock too, have it on my Remington 870, the recoil reduction allows shooting all day with no soreness.

A side saddle/shell holder is another good option, and maybe a "laser/light" should you need it at night.
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GregShmedley posted...

Yeah, if you haven't tried it, the SGA stock is great. Very comfortable.

How much did that run you?

$650, before taxes. I've seen them for less online but the owner is a good guy, so I opted to shop local. Only about 10, 20-ish above the lowest I've seen them, so meh.

Dark_Spiret posted...

something about the 590a1 that i just dont like with wood. the thing was made to be used and abused hard.

Fair nuff. I love the way it looks but I've handled some shotguns with the SGA stock, and yeah, big difference.
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Damn, dude, that looks sweet. Local shop has one.
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Malcrasternus posted...

bayonet

Duuude!
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Hairistotle posted...

so tc bought a gun because guns upset some people?

*nibbles*

*vomits*
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That's a nice looking Mossberg

I actually agree about how boring shotguns have gotten because of all the tactical shit companies throw on them.

If you live in a city.....then yeah you just want to piss people off carrying it around. Of you live in the country, well go hunt and pick razzleberries with your granpapa.
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Hairistotle posted...

so tc bought a gun because guns upset some people?

Is something wrong with you lately? Youve been on a particularly bad shitposting spree

ZeroKelvin posted...

Hairistotle posted...

so tc bought a gun because guns upset some people?

Is something wrong with you lately? Youve been on a particularly bad shitposting spree

Guns just trigger the fuck out of him
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Nice!!!!
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Hairistotle posted...

so tc bought a gun because guns upset some people?

No I wanted it. I plan on doing competitions again someday, and an A1 platform with the heavy barrel and metal trigger assembly is appealing for the longevity.

The bayonet lug was to piss of the pro-AWB crowd.
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KillerKhan420 posted...

If you live in a city.....then yeah you just want to piss people off carrying it around. Of you live in the country, well go hunt and pick razzleberries with your granpapa.

My grandpap is dead. Razzleberries gave him the diabetes. Then he got hit by a truck; real sad.
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TennTux posted...

ZeroKelvin posted...

Hairistotle posted...

so tc bought a gun because guns upset some people?

Is something wrong with you lately? Youve been on a particularly bad shitposting spree

Guns just trigger the fuck out of him

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You should've gotten a Stoeger Coach Gun.

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I got a gun for home defense recently. They tried to sell me a shotgun but I'm not sure where I would store one. They're too big to leave laying around and I'm not about to go lugging one around in the open. I have heard that they're perfect for home defense but eventually I just bought a pistol.
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El_Lingo posted...

I got a gun for home defense recently. They tried to sell me a shotgun but I'm not sure where I would store one. They're too big to leave laying around and I'm not about to go lugging one around in the open. I have heard that they're perfect for home defense but eventually I just bought a pistol.

If you ever do buy a shotgun, don't let them trick you into buying one without a stock just because it's shorter.

They take a lot of practice to shoot decently and it isn't really worth it outside of the look.

Yeah a shotgun without a stock is NOT for novices, if a gun shop tried to trick you into buying one over a shotgun with a stock they are shitty people and you need to not do business with them.

My friend tried it once and he's a big dude who loves shooting the Mosin Nagant short sleeves, even he put his stock back on after trying it with pistol grip no stock.
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...

El_Lingo posted...

I got a gun for home defense recently. They tried to sell me a shotgun but I'm not sure where I would store one. They're too big to leave laying around and I'm not about to go lugging one around in the open. I have heard that they're perfect for home defense but eventually I just bought a pistol.

If you ever do buy a shotgun, don't let them trick you into buying one without a stock just because it's shorter.

They take a lot of practice to shoot decently and it isn't really worth it outside of the look.

Practice doing what? I would use a pistol grip shotgun for home defense, it's point and shoot unless you live in a castle.
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nice
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GregShmedley posted...

Malcrasternus posted...

$650, before taxes. I've seen them for less online but the owner is a good guy, so I opted to shop local. Only about 10, 20-ish above the lowest I've seen them, so meh.

That really isn't bad to be honest. Even if you're buying online, still gotta pay shipping and transfer fee.

eggcorn posted...

Practice doing what? I would use a pistol grip shotgun for home defense, it's point and shoot unless you live in a castle.

PGO is far from ideal in a defensive scenario unless you are very familiar with it. Even then, it is by far easier to maintain sight acquisition (before and after shooting) with a stock equipped shotgun than a PGO.

huh, never had any problem.
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eggcorn posted...

Practice doing what? I would use a pistol grip shotgun for home defense, it's point and shoot unless you live in a castle.

You'd fire it once and either drop it or flinch on your next shot because of how much it hurt your wrist I'd bet.

I've been thinking about getting a KSG since all I can find are tactical shotguns around here, and if I gotta go with that tactical look I might as well get that 12 round capacity I figure.
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I don't mind PGO, but I'd grab a shotty with a stock every time. Might be a scattergun but you should still know where your cone is going.
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The_Bottom_Line posted...

eggcorn posted...

Practice doing what? I would use a pistol grip shotgun for home defense, it's point and shoot unless you live in a castle.

You'd fire it once and either drop it or flinch on your next shot because of how much it hurt your wrist I'd bet.

I've been thinking about getting a KSG since all I can find are tactical shotguns around here, and if I gotta go with that tactical look I might as well get that 12 round capacity I figure.

There's a single tube version now. Same place I got my Retro from had it on the wall. It looks like it came with a time traveler from the 90's with how chunky yet oddly sleek it looks.
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Does it accept 3.5 shells

The_Bottom_Line posted...

eggcorn posted...

Practice doing what? I would use a pistol grip shotgun for home defense, it's point and shoot unless you live in a castle.

You'd fire it once and either drop it or flinch on your next shot because of how much it hurt your wrist I'd bet.

I've been thinking about getting a KSG since all I can find are tactical shotguns around here, and if I gotta go with that tactical look I might as well get that 12 round capacity I figure.

You guys are fucking with me.
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eggcorn posted...

You guys are f***ing with me.

Anyone that says "you just point and shoot" with a shotgun sounds like someone who has little to no experience actually shooting a shotgun.

They don't work like in fucking video games.
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Be on the lookout for a strange flying man in search of his long lost brother.
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The_Bottom_Line posted...

eggcorn posted...

You guys are f***ing with me.

Anyone that says "you just point and shoot" with a shotgun sounds like someone who has little to no experience actually shooting a shotgun.

They don't work like in fucking video games.

They really do though when your in a house lol
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The_Bottom_Line posted...

eggcorn posted...

You guys are f***ing with me.

Anyone that says "you just point and shoot" with a shotgun sounds like someone who has little to no experience actually shooting a shotgun.

They don't work like in fucking video games.

Don't be that guy. I've owned my persuader for well over a decade and put countless rounds through it. We're talking about in home not target shooting.
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So your home does not have anyone or pets that you would like to not shoot ?, your cool with fucking your home up because of your "it's like a video game" mindset ?

Seems like you should not have a gun if your not going to take it seriously or listen to people who have more experience with firearms.

Go to a class, get trained, be educated and not some gun ho rookie who makes a terrible mistake.

Just putting rounds down range is no substitute for a training course that forces you to move around and shoot.

@eggcorn
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Offworlder1 posted...

So your home does not have anyone or pets that you would like to not shoot ?, your cool with fucking your home up because of your "it's like a video game" mindset ?

Seems like you should not have a gun if your not going to take it seriously or listen to people who have more experience with firearms.

Go to a class, get trained, be educated and not some gun ho rookie who makes a terrible mistake.

Just putting rounds down range is no substitute for a training course that forces you to move around and shoot.

@eggcorn

I have no idead what the fuck you're talking about right now. I'm not the one who has problems aiming. And stop trying to be a cool guy with phrases you don't understand, it's gung ho.
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That's a beauty there TC
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The hell is up with offworld right now.

De Evolution posted...

That's a beauty there TC

Thanks. Friend suggested I call it The Family Business, and damn it, I like it.
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Caring about safety, and being knowledgeable is not trying to be a cool guy, it's being responsible. Having a stock on your shotgun significantly increases your accuracy and speed even inside a home, sure it's easier to maneuver with a PGO shotgun but accuracy and speed matter more. Instead of a PGO shotgun use a pistol and have more control over the weapon and the speed of follow up shots.

Rifles, pistols, shotguns, etc all have a place and purpose, a PGO shotgun is not even close to being ideal for home defense for most people.
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GregShmedley posted...

recommended

Well that would be the key word. I'm not reccomending it, It's just viable because pellets are less likely to penetrate walls and a PG just means maneuverability in tight spaces.
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GregShmedley posted...

eggcorn posted...

GregShmedley posted...

recommended

Well that would be the key word. I'm not reccomending it, It's just viable because pellets are less likely to penetrate walls and a PG just means maneuverability in tight spaces.

If you're talking about buckshot, that is entirely false. Even #4 buck will penetrate interior walls. If we're talking about birdshot, I...hope you aren't using birdshot.

And I don't think the maneuverability is worth the loss of potential speed and accuracy with follow up shots in a stressful situation, especially in say a night break-in where you may be awakened at 2AM.

reduced recoil ammunition
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