Poll of the Day > I'm playing Fallout 4 on survivor mode. spoilers

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SunWuKung420
05/18/19 4:22:09 PM
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It definitely takes the game to a whole new level. I've already seen things in the first 7 levels I've never seen before.

The most notable was an NPC named Timothy looking for bunker hill dressed like the institute.

Oh, and that first fight with a deathclaw was completely different.
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DANTE20XX
05/18/19 4:35:01 PM
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Survival is the only way to play it, just like hardcore was the only way to play Fallout NV. Screw the stupid can't save unless you sleep thing though. I don't need to sleep to save my game, tyvm! Best to mod that out assuming you are able.
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SunWuKung420
05/18/19 4:38:01 PM
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I'm not running any mods. I have all the DLC though.
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WastelandCowboy
05/18/19 5:32:29 PM
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Yup. The only part that's annoying is the constant need for antibiotics.
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SunWuKung420
05/18/19 6:23:39 PM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
Yup. The only part that's annoying is the constant need for antibiotics.


I'm realizing that now. My next level is going to chemist. I'm also really happy I found the chemistry station in Sanctuary. Lol, never found it before.
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ParanoidObsessive
05/18/19 7:37:33 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
The most notable was an NPC named Timothy looking for bunker hill dressed like the institute.

That has nothing to do with Survival mode, that's just a normal random event.

Basically, there are a number of places in the game that trigger random events, and each one can trigger specific events. One of the first ones you'll encounter is a campfire site between Red Rocket and Concord. Depending on what the RNG decides, you can find nothing there, or some raiders, or hostile animals, or a traveling doctor.

http://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_4_random_encounters

You can actually look on the wiki and see specific events or people and which areas they trigger in, and then save scum to get the specific event you want to occur. This is how a lot of players get the level 4 merchants for their settlements if they want them (you have to recruit about half the level 4 merchants via random encounters).

http://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_4_merchants#Settlement_merchants


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DANTE20XX
05/18/19 8:01:22 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
I'm not running any mods.

Shame. You need a few for sure.
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SunWuKung420
05/18/19 8:12:57 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
then save scum to get the specific event you want to occur.


I'm on survival and scumming is impossible, not that I would bother.

I guess because I have to pay real close attention just to survive, I'm noticing more, like the dismembered guy haphazardly dumped in a barrel.
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SunWuKung420
05/18/19 8:13:27 PM
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DANTE20XX posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
I'm not running any mods.

Shame. You need a few for sure.


Nah. I'm sure I'll be fine without them.
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DANTE20XX
05/18/19 8:26:40 PM
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People willingly play Bethesda games w/o any sort of mods. I forgot those types exist!
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WastelandCowboy
05/18/19 8:53:29 PM
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DANTE20XX posted...
People willingly play Bethesda games w/o any sort of mods. I forgot those types exist!

They're a lot more playable with mods, especially for bug fixes.

I went through a Fallout 4 run without mods simply to complete all achievements last year.
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SunWuKung420
05/19/19 4:45:07 PM
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Lol, too many mole rats are deadly.
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wolfy42
05/19/19 4:52:10 PM
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Hmm, maybe you guys can help me.

I have tried to play Fallout 4, three times. I have all the DLC but have never seen any of it, as I keep getting bored on move on to another game. Farthest I have gotten, had 3 settlements that was linked and I think I was in the main city and just learning about the synths or something like that.

Keep meaning to go back and play it again, but....if there are mods that make it more enjoyable, or if survival mode makes it more fun (just making the game end if I die once....would be REALLY bad as I barely have the desire to play through the start one more time...let alone repeatedly).

I can mention a few things that....seemed to detract from the game for me.

First I didn't feel the same sense of leveling up and gaining powers, I don't think the perks ..had the same weight I guess.

This was primarily due to the second big difference for me, VATS didn't seem to ...well work like the old vats and stop time etc. I felt like many of the turn based/rpg aspects were gone, and more like I was playing an FPS (and not even a Borderlands level of RPG FPS).

Also, I think I have heard before part of the problem was I followed the storyline, which upped the difficulty quickly....I believe I need to just wander more or something. First time I played I gave up at that first factory full of enemies that was part of the main quest....because I got tired of running around doing FPS fights with them (I don't like FPS games generally unless you have alot of RPG elements).

Anyway, I love the fallout universe, loved 1 and 2, and then really loved 3 and NV. I did not like 4 (so far) and 76 was even worse *sigh*.

Are there mods I should use to make it more fun, or do I just need to learn to deal with the differences?
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SunWuKung420
05/19/19 4:55:00 PM
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Survivor just makes surviving really hard, but it's not one death and game over. The save function is limited to when you can sleep, eliminating the ability to save scum.

You have to be very careful, especially early levels since you are really squishy.
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SunWuKung420
05/19/19 5:21:26 PM
#15:


Another difference, in their other modes you'll survive just fine of you never pick up an empty bottle.

In survivor, you had better not miss a single one.
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Aculo
05/20/19 11:46:56 AM
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that's pretty cool you're trying the survival mode, sunny, ok?

myself, i've played new vegas and fallout 4 through their entirety in survival mode, dlc and all, ok?

you should strive to be like me, ok?
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SunWuKung420
05/20/19 11:59:17 AM
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Finally doing the corvega factory quest. Took me a good amount of time going through Lexington. I never knew there was a sewer entrance.
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Kyuubi4269
05/20/19 12:00:26 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Finally doing the corvega factory quest. Took me a good amount of time going through Lexington. I never knew there was a sewer entrance.

Wear fire resistant gear.
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WastelandCowboy
05/20/19 12:37:45 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Finally doing the corvega factory quest. Took me a good amount of time going through Lexington. I never knew there was a sewer entrance.

Wear fire resistant gear.

And crouch. Theres a terminal in the main production room thats hooked to a protection.
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SunWuKung420
05/20/19 12:48:47 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Finally doing the corvega factory quest. Took me a good amount of time going through Lexington. I never knew there was a sewer entrance.

Wear fire resistant gear.


Pointless advice.
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InfestedAdam
05/20/19 1:09:56 PM
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I chose to play with Survival difficulty for my first and current playthrough. First several levels were frustrating to the point that I caved-in and used a "save anywhere" mod when I was trying to do the "Returning the Favor" quest at USAF Satellite Station Olivia. Surprised me how quickly a chaingun will gun me down at level 4. That mod is handy for the occasional crash though which fortunately has been few and far in between.

After 10+ levels and getting some proper defensive perks it felt like the difficulty took a nose dive. I thought about starting over again since the first several levels were not "pure" as I cheesed that quest with the "save anywhere" mod but at level 30+ now I'm still having fun and it doesn't bother me enough that I'm not truly doing a Survival difficulty run.

Still, I'm entertaining the thought of just starting over on Normal difficulty. Feels like once you get the proper perks and upgrades, Survival difficulty doesn't feel that much different from the other difficulties but I do appreciate the feeling of having to travel manually and not use Fast Travel. Feels like I get more out of these games when roleplaying in this manner.
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SunWuKung420
05/21/19 12:02:51 PM
#22:


Not contracting the deadly mole rat disease was quite the feat.
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Kyuubi4269
05/21/19 12:03:56 PM
#23:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Finally doing the corvega factory quest. Took me a good amount of time going through Lexington. I never knew there was a sewer entrance.

Wear fire resistant gear.


Pointless advice.

Because you like getting one shot the moment you enter a room?
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Aculo
05/21/19 12:13:10 PM
#24:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Not contracting the deadly mole rat disease was quite the feat.

it's actually not as difficult as you'd think! less experienced players will probably have more trouble than people who are better at these things, though, ok?
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SunWuKung420
05/21/19 12:22:50 PM
#25:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Finally doing the corvega factory quest. Took me a good amount of time going through Lexington. I never knew there was a sewer entrance.

Wear fire resistant gear.


Pointless advice.

Because you like getting one shot the moment you enter a room?


Considering I cleared it without a dying or taking zero fire damage, yes, it was pointless advice.
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Sarcasthma
05/21/19 12:28:25 PM
#26:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Finally doing the corvega factory quest. Took me a good amount of time going through Lexington. I never knew there was a sewer entrance.

Wear fire resistant gear.


Pointless advice.

More negativity from the zen master.
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SunWuKung420
05/21/19 12:36:54 PM
#27:


Sarcasthma posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Finally doing the corvega factory quest. Took me a good amount of time going through Lexington. I never knew there was a sewer entrance.

Wear fire resistant gear.


Pointless advice.

More negativity from the zen master.


Pointless advice is pointless, nothing negative about that.
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InfestedAdam
05/21/19 12:38:47 PM
#28:


Reading this topic is tempting me to start over but rearrange my SPECIAL attributes a bit. I started with 1 Strength, 1 Perspective, 1 Endurance, 10 Charisma, 10 Intelligence, 4 Agility, and 1 Luck.

The 10 Charisma has been useful in maxing out my settlers but I haven't even touched the INT 7+ perks. Think I might shift those four points from Intelligence to either Perspective or Luck. Maybe getting a Luck of 5 and grabbing Idiot Savant will make up for the 12% bonus EXP I lost from the four points of Intelligence.

How did you folks handle the early levels when you're more squishy than a fly? Crafted stuff for easy experience or just explored the nearby areas? I tried that but the raiders at USAF Satellite Station Olivia were rather challenging at level 2-3.
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Sarcasthma
05/21/19 12:41:16 PM
#29:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Finally doing the corvega factory quest. Took me a good amount of time going through Lexington. I never knew there was a sewer entrance.

Wear fire resistant gear.


Pointless advice.

More negativity from the zen master.


Pointless advice is pointless, nothing negative about that.

Saying that to someone who took the time to give you advice is pretty rude.
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SunWuKung420
05/21/19 12:49:58 PM
#30:


Sarcasthma posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Finally doing the corvega factory quest. Took me a good amount of time going through Lexington. I never knew there was a sewer entrance.

Wear fire resistant gear.


Pointless advice.

More negativity from the zen master.


Pointless advice is pointless, nothing negative about that.

Saying that to someone who took the time to give you advice is pretty rude.


The enemies did zero fire damage. It would have been a waste of time, hence, pointless advice.
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SunWuKung420
05/21/19 12:53:10 PM
#31:


InfestedAdam posted...
Reading this topic is tempting me to start over but rearrange my SPECIAL attributes a bit. I started with 1 Strength, 1 Perspective, 1 Endurance, 10 Charisma, 10 Intelligence, 4 Agility, and 1 Luck.

The 10 Charisma has been useful in maxing out my settlers but I haven't even touched the INT 7+ perks. Think I might shift those four points from Intelligence to either Perspective or Luck. Maybe getting a Luck of 5 and grabbing Idiot Savant will make up for the 12% bonus EXP I lost from the four points of Intelligence.

How did you folks handle the early levels when you're more squishy than a fly? Crafted stuff for easy experience or just explored the nearby areas? I tried that but the raiders at USAF Satellite Station Olivia were rather challenging at level 2-3.


You spend so much time in survival with AP debuffs that you only use VATS to spot enemies early on, making points in perception useless in the early levels.

I started with 4 so I could get locksmith. A point got added when I found the bobblehead.
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Sarcasthma
05/21/19 12:56:15 PM
#32:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Finally doing the corvega factory quest. Took me a good amount of time going through Lexington. I never knew there was a sewer entrance.

Wear fire resistant gear.


Pointless advice.

More negativity from the zen master.


Pointless advice is pointless, nothing negative about that.

Saying that to someone who took the time to give you advice is pretty rude.


The enemies did zero fire damage. It would have been a waste of time, hence, pointless advice.

Looking online, it seems like quite a few people have had trouble with enemies spamming molotov cocktails.
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Aculo
05/21/19 1:07:06 PM
#33:


you take a LOT of fire damage in that area, ok?

sunny, i'd be glad to walk you through that area if you'd like. i know it can be difficult for people less experienced with video games, and i'd be more than happy to lend my knowledge and expertise, ok?
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DarkKirby2500
05/21/19 1:48:17 PM
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How can you play without mods now that this beauty is out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCPtp7pSmvI" data-time="


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8avAIcwk9Qg" data-time="

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SunWuKung420
05/21/19 1:56:42 PM
#35:


Because I don't need some pervs remodeled women to enjoy the game.
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DarkKirby2500
05/21/19 1:59:09 PM
#36:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Because I don't need some pervs remodeled women to enjoy the game.

Perv mods are optional.

Anime is mandatory.
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WastelandCowboy
05/21/19 2:09:09 PM
#37:


DarkKirby2500 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Because I don't need some pervs remodeled women to enjoy the game.

Perv mods are optional.

Anime is mandatory.

No its not.
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Zareth
05/21/19 3:38:37 PM
#38:


DANTE20XX posted...
hardcore was the only way to play Fallout NV

Hardcore sucked in NV.
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Moonjay
05/21/19 4:23:42 PM
#39:


That anime mod is one of the ugliest things I've ever seen.

I always play Bethesda games mod free at first and with minimal mods later. Mostly things I consider quality of life. Like not having 11 billion cliff racers dive bombing my head in Morrowind.
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SunWuKung420
05/21/19 4:29:49 PM
#40:


DarkKirby2500 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Because I don't need some pervs remodeled women to enjoy the game.

Perv mods are optional.

Anime is mandatory.


No thank. Looks dumb.
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SunWuKung420
05/21/19 7:48:24 PM
#41:


Geez, I'm just minding my own business at the chemistry station when a wandering herd of ferals blindsided me.

Luckily, 1 molotov and my sanctuary inhabitants ended that quickly.
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Sarcasthma
05/21/19 8:24:45 PM
#42:


Sarcasthma posted...
Looking online, it seems like quite a few people have had trouble with enemies spamming molotov cocktails.

Any response, Sunny?

Kyuubi really was trying to give you helpful advice.
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SunWuKung420
05/21/19 8:40:40 PM
#43:


Sarcasthma posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
Looking online, it seems like quite a few people have had trouble with enemies spamming molotov cocktails.

Any response, Sunny?

Kyuubi really was trying to give you helpful advice.


Your attempts at instigation do not go unnoticed.
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Sarcasthma
05/21/19 8:44:03 PM
#44:


Again, how was it pointless advice? Enemies there tend to use molotov cocktails.
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SunWuKung420
05/21/19 9:25:50 PM
#45:


Sarcasthma posted...
Again, how was it pointless advice? Enemies there tend to use molotov cocktails.


I had no molotovs thrown at me while clearing the Corvega plant quest. You're quite obsessed with kyuubi's pointless advice.
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Sarcasthma
05/21/19 9:31:26 PM
#46:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
Again, how was it pointless advice? Enemies there tend to use molotov cocktails.


I had no molotovs thrown at me while clearing the Corvega plant quest. You're quite obsessed with kyuubi's pointless advice.

Other people have, though.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/357287935542434702/
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SunWuKung420
05/21/19 9:37:22 PM
#47:


Sarcasthma posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
Again, how was it pointless advice? Enemies there tend to use molotov cocktails.


I had no molotovs thrown at me while clearing the Corvega plant quest. You're quite obsessed with kyuubi's pointless advice.

Other people have, though.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/357287935542434702/


Too bad for them. I'm better at stealth than them.
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Sarcasthma
05/21/19 9:42:26 PM
#48:


This is why people here don't like you, Sunny.
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SunWuKung420
05/21/19 10:25:37 PM
#49:


Don't hate because I can clear the first minutemen quest on survivor at level 10 without asbestos lined gear. You should just GOML.
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SunWuKung420
05/22/19 12:16:48 AM
#50:


Sarcasthma posted...
Other people have, though.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/357287935542434702/


ROFL I finally read this. Nobody gave the pointless advice.

I went in through the sewers, no silencers and didn't see a single molotov. Stealth cleared the lower levels. Snipe killed Jared while protectron was a bullet sponge. Looted and left through the sewers. The outside raiders don't count for quest.
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