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Bluharvest
05/19/19 1:52:52 AM
#51:


How many times have you seen avatar
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Wetterdew
05/19/19 2:04:47 AM
#52:


Just because you can't remember the characters' names doesn't mean it isn't still an iconic movie. Here are iconic movies I've seen whose characters' names I can't remember, and I guarantee you can't name a character from every movie you've seen from this list:

Jurassic Park

Jaws

King Kong

Get Out

ET

Mission Impossible movies

Bladerunner

The Exorcist

Ghostbusters

A Clockwork Orange

The Thing

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

The Birds

Big

The Sandlot

American Beauty

Groundhog Day

Flubber

Tremors

Honey I shrunk the Kids

Independence Day
etc...

Then there are movies like Rosemary's Baby or The Truman Show where I only remember the character's name because it's in the movie title.
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CM_Ponch
05/19/19 2:09:29 AM
#53:


TC, you're right, but CE doesn't understand or care what you're saying because it means having to think
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/19/19 2:32:36 AM
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Beyond the amount of money it made and the push forward it created for tech, does it have any other lasting importance? Seriously, is it anyone's favorite movie? Does anyone cite it as inspiration for them to get into the craft of making films? Beyond the 3D did it influence the creation of film moving forward?

I do not see evidence of that.
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YookaLaylee
05/19/19 8:02:29 AM
#55:


Wetterdew posted...
Just because you can't remember the characters' names doesn't mean it isn't still an iconic movie. Here are iconic movies I've seen whose characters' names I can't remember, and I guarantee you can't name a character from every movie you've seen from this list:

Jurassic Park

Jaws

King Kong

Get Out

ET

Mission Impossible movies

Bladerunner

The Exorcist

Ghostbusters

A Clockwork Orange

The Thing

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

The Birds

Big

The Sandlot

American Beauty

Groundhog Day

Flubber

Tremors

Honey I shrunk the Kids

Independence Day
etc...

Then there are movies like Rosemary's Baby or The Truman Show where I only remember the character's name because it's in the movie title.

You cant name any characters from those movies? Seriously?
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Error1355
05/19/19 8:07:14 AM
#56:


If the only reason people are talking about your movie is debating if it had a cultural impact or not, your movie didn't have a cultural impact.
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MacDaMurderer
05/19/19 8:18:28 AM
#57:


Wetterdew posted...
Just because you can't remember the characters' names doesn't mean it isn't still an iconic movie. Here are iconic movies I've seen whose characters' names I can't remember, and I guarantee you can't name a character from every movie you've seen from this list:

Jurassic Park

Jaws

King Kong

Get Out

ET

Mission Impossible movies

Bladerunner

The Exorcist

Ghostbusters

A Clockwork Orange

The Thing

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

The Birds

Big

The Sandlot

American Beauty

Groundhog Day

Flubber

Tremors

Honey I shrunk the Kids

Independence Day
etc...

Then there are movies like Rosemary's Baby or The Truman Show where I only remember the character's name because it's in the movie title.


Besides ghostbuster (which I never watched) i literally couldnt remember a single name of any character for those movies. I was mad as fuck that I couldnt remember any names from get out too.
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Joenage
05/19/19 8:26:45 AM
#58:


Wooow so many people in this topic missing TCs point completely lmao

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Alpha218
05/19/19 8:29:59 AM
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SaccharineSmile posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
SaccharineSmile posted...

Remember scenes, the look of characters, location shots, dialogue etc. = movie has made an impact on culture

And avatar has done that like it or not


What is most memorable scene?

What dialogue you remember?

Name a location.


What movie is this from?

https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2018/11/02/02-avatar-2.w1200.h1200.2x.jpg

Show that to anyone and they will know the answer, $2.8 billion worth of people would know it

Avatar is literally just like Crysis was. Only notable for the graphics. So of course people will know what movie its from, because the visuals were used to sell the movie.
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Buzz Killjoy
05/19/19 12:36:35 PM
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I've never seen it. As far as "cultural impact," the one thing that seems notable in all these years since it's been released is that I've never seen it playing on any cable movie channels. Not even once, or I probably would have watched it, or at least part of it. That seems really strange to me now that I think about it.

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Sabram
05/19/19 12:43:51 PM
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I liked Avatar, it was a fun movie and had some good scenes in it. It doesn't measure up to Endgame or the combined MCU. There's a lot more characters with a lot more interesting arcs in the MCU, and we see a lot of them come to fruition in Endgame. Not to mention the movies adapt characters that have been around for over half a century.

Avatar had cultural impact when it was released and a couple years after, but it had no staying power. Comic book movies stay with people not because the movies were always great (Batman Forever for example) but because the characters in them are timeless.

No, I didn't know who the Guardians of the Galaxy were before the movies, but I sure as hell do now, and the same goes for a lot of other characters in the movies. That's the kind of cultural impact they generated.
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Umbreon
05/19/19 12:55:45 PM
#62:


Do people actually give a fuck about Avatar?

I feel like people haven't talked about it and years, and are only now bringing it up because it's about to lose it's record.

Oh and a sequel I suppose, but that isn't getting any hype.
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YookaLaylee
05/19/19 2:13:44 PM
#63:


Buzz Killjoy posted...
I've never seen it. As far as "cultural impact," the one thing that seems notable in all these years since it's been released is that I've never seen it playing on any cable movie channels. Not even once, or I probably would have watched it, or at least part of it. That seems really strange to me now that I think about it.

They used to play it on FX all the time
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masterpug53
05/19/19 2:33:33 PM
#64:


SaccharineSmile posted...
Avatar's push for 3d, cinema screen/projector innovation, groundbreaking cgi, motion capture, etc. directly affected out culture in many ways. There are plenty of blockbuster movies with no cultural impact whatsoever, but Avatar is not one of them.


Lord of the Rings already beat Avatar in the bolded categories almost a decade earlier. In fact, part of the reason I hated Avatar at the time was due to certain airheaded critics gushing over Avatar's mocap like LotR had never existed. As for 3D, I suppose you can consider it 'cultural impact' to put the squeeze on theaters to accommodate a zombified gimmick that people aren't much more excited for now than they were in the 1950's. I can't make an educated comment on cinema screen / projector innovation, so I won't knock its importance.

The problem with Avatar leaving no 'cultural impact' isn't just a problem compared to other blockbusters; it's a problem compared to nearly every other movie James Cameron ever made. Think of Aliens, Terminator, Titanic: genuinely think of how deeply these movies wove themselves into the cultural fiber. They were inventive, they were quotable, they gave us ogles of memories (for the record, I loathed Titanic when it released and part of me still does, but I'm not above giving it its due credit). They told you a rich story and didn't just fall back on the pretty visuals to do so.

If Avatar had come from any other director, I might not be inclined to be so critical of it. But when a story as uninspired as Avatar's comes from the man who previously gave our culture such huge inspirations, it sticks out like a sore thumb.
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Perascamin
05/19/19 2:41:37 PM
#65:


darkphoenix181 posted...
SaccharineSmile posted...

Remember scenes, the look of characters, location shots, dialogue etc. = movie has made an impact on culture

And avatar has done that like it or not


What is most memorable scene?

What dialogue you remember?

Name a location.

When Jake Sully takes a wounded Grace to the Tree and the Tribemother tries to convert Grace's consciousness into the body of her Avatar while the other Navi all sit, sway, and chant in unison.

When Natiri is instructing Jake on how to tame one of the flying animals, she screams "Make the Bond!" As Jake wrestles with it. Also when Jake is doing his video blog and he talks about how his Earthling friends call him a "scoun" too. (Which means Idiot in the Navi Language.

I cant tell you the specific name of a location though. I just remember the two trees the Navi had, the human bases, and then the jungle. They are the locations where the entire movie takes place.
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Wetterdew
05/19/19 3:20:37 PM
#66:


YookaLaylee posted...
You cant name any characters from those movies? Seriously?

After posting it, I remembered Nurse Ratched from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's nest.

Whether you remember the characters' names doesn't prove whether the movie is iconic.
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darkphoenix181
05/20/19 12:08:11 PM
#67:


Ironically I only watched Titanic about when it came out and that was years ago and I can easily remember the main character's name. One time I watched it. Wasn't that into it since was a young kid.

Probably has to do with it having a memorable IMPACTFUL line that has said character's name in the line. I recall the girl's name too.

This is interesting because it was also a huge James Cameron movie touting visuals.
It also happened to have a moving story however.
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