Current Events > I pronounce Ryu "Rye-you", is that weird?

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SSMajinVegeta2 posted...

BuckVanHammer posted...

no, ree-u is weird.

Dis

How so?

When I was younger and playing Breath of Fire, I thought it was "Rye-you." But, then I got older and learned it was "Ree-you." I have used the proper ever since. It was an easy change.
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I don't think anyone outside of Japan got it right until Super, and I'm not even sure that ambiguously-American announcer even got it right.

Does anyone know who did the VA for SSF2?

EffectAndCause posted...

Ive always said Rye-you the same way I say Ryan and not ree-yin.

Ryan is an English word. Ryu is a Japanese word.

I heard someone on YouTube pronounce francais as fran-cays with a hard C which would be correct if it were an English word but its not so we have to say it the way the french do.

Bass2 posted...

francais

parlez vooz fran-saze?

Nall posted...

Breath of Fire Ryu = Rye-You
Street Fighter Ryu = Ree-You

Its the same name with the same meaning. There is no difference.

Wetterdew posted...

ssjevot posted...

Wetterdew posted...

The "ee" sound is meant to be spoken quickly.

It isn't spoken at all. Just like you don't make an ee sound when you say kyu (q).

You do, you just say it quickly.

No, you don't. I realize a lot of people pronounce it ree-yu, and that is fine for reasons I said earlier. The sound isn't in English so it's hard and whatever you say is fine if people can understand it. But there is no ee sound at all when you say it in Japanese. It's a combination of r and yu. The closest example in English is Kyu (q), but replace the k with r.

Also for those curious, riyu (ree-yu) is a Japanese word meaning reason that is very common. and don't sound similar.
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I'm 32 and used to pronounce it that way until about a decade ago.
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gguirao posted...

I'm 32 and used to pronounce it that way until about a decade ago.

Hell, I used to pronounce Mario as "mary-o".

I pronounce it however Willem Dafoe did in the Death Note film.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

gguirao posted...

I'm 32 and used to pronounce it that way until about a decade ago.

Hell, I used to pronounce Mario as "mary-o".

They said it that way in Denver the Last Dinosaur too. I always thought it was weird.

au_gold posted...

I pronounce it however Willem Dafoe did in the Death Note film.

Because Americans know better how to pronounce Japanese words than the Japanese do?

Bass2 posted...

au_gold posted...

I pronounce it however Willem Dafoe did in the Death Note film.

Because Americans know better how to pronounce Japanese words than the Japanese do?

Not only that, but the film is canon.
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ssjevot posted...

The sound isn't in English so it's hard and whatever you say is fine if people can understand it.

again, shut. the. fuck. up.

it's just the word "view" with an 'r' instead of a 'v'

any native english speaker can pronounce that; it exists in their repertoire

stop spreading nonsense

ssjevot posted...

and don't sound similar.

this is actually also bullshit

and can sound very similar when spoken
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In the future, you should only be able to select characters in Street Fighter by saying their names. Those who say Rye-you wont ever be able to play as him.

Bass2 posted...

Because Americans know better how to pronounce Japanese words than the Japanese do?

Why do romanizations even bother with the U, when it's silent most of the time?

Nall posted...

Bass2 posted...

Nall posted...

Breath of Fire Ryu = Rye-You
Street Fighter Ryu = Ree-You

Its the same name with the same meaning. There is no difference.

So? Thats how I pronounce them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fskUpNqHR7M" data-time="

cavalierking posted...

ssjevot posted...

The sound isn't in English so it's hard and whatever you say is fine if people can understand it.

again, shut. the. fuck. up.

it's just the word "view" with an 'r' instead of a 'v'

any native english speaker can pronounce that; it exists in their repertoire

stop spreading nonsense

ssjevot posted...

and don't sound similar.

this is actually also bullshit

and can sound very similar when spoken

Lol, that isn't true at all. Bro, you obviously don't speak Japanese, so please stop pretending. No one thinks they sound similar. I have never in my life heard and thought it was and I am not even a native speaker.
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Majority of US cant say Poh-KAY-mon. Just say any word any way you want. If anyone has a problem with you speaking wrong, ignore em.
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Lairen posted...

Poh-KAY-mon

pokermans?

Questionmarktarius posted...

Lairen posted...

Poh-KAY-mon

pokermans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFU2HL-PQNo" data-time="

ssjevot posted...

Lol, that isn't true at all. Bro, you obviously don't speak Japanese, so please stop pretending. No one thinks they sound similar. I have never in my life heard and thought it was and I am not even a native speaker.

i like how you selectively choose what and what not to respond to

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but on-topic, it's probably cause you're foreign/stupid and people speak to you hella deliberately and/or slowly
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cavalierking posted...

ssjevot posted...

Lol, that isn't true at all. Bro, you obviously don't speak Japanese, so please stop pretending. No one thinks they sound similar. I have never in my life heard and thought it was and I am not even a native speaker.

i like how you selectively choose what and what not to respond to

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but on-topic, it's probably cause you're foreign/stupid and people speak to you hella deliberately and/or slowly

And again with the anger. Why are you so angry all the time anyway? Like what happened?
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ssjevot posted...

And again with the anger. Why are you so angry all the time anyway? Like what happened?

You do know this is gamefaqs.gamespot.com, right?

Lairen posted...

Majority of US cant say Poh-KAY-mon. Just say any word any way you want. If anyone has a problem with you speaking wrong, ignore em.

It's actually Poh-keh-mon. It even comes from the English Pocket Monster, so the keh sound is implied. But Poh-kay-mon doesn't sound bad. It would be a silly thing to get angry over.
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ssjevot posted...

Lairen posted...

Majority of US cant say Poh-KAY-mon. Just say any word any way you want. If anyone has a problem with you speaking wrong, ignore em.

It's actually Poh-keh-mon. It even comes from the English Pocket Monster, so the keh sound is implied. But Poh-kay-mon doesn't sound bad. It would be a silly thing to get angry over.

No the makes an A sound like resum or beyonc. Good on you for proving the point.

Pokerman. Pikanons. Saying anything really.
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Anyone who pitches a fit when "pokmon" is pronounced as "pokmon" should never be taken seriously, ever again.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Anyone who pitches a fit when "pokmon" is pronounced as "pokmon" should never be taken seriously, ever again.

No one pitches a fit because it was said correctly many times when it was first introduced. Just silly to get wrong. Its not polka mon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuYeHPFR3f0" data-time="
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ssjevot posted...

And again with the anger. Why are you so angry all the time anyway? Like what happened?

bro, i'm chilling right now

i was watching a tekken tournament earlier

and now i'm eating a late dinner and watching a replay of the warriors game and browsing ce

i cuss a lot casually when i speak, so it naturally comes up in my writing too

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and i already mentioned it, anyway (which, what with you having reading comprehension issues and all, doesn't surprise me) - you're talking about shit you don't know

it irks me, hence my replies
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Lairen posted...

ssjevot posted...

Lairen posted...

Majority of US cant say Poh-KAY-mon. Just say any word any way you want. If anyone has a problem with you speaking wrong, ignore em.

It's actually Poh-keh-mon. It even comes from the English Pocket Monster, so the keh sound is implied. But Poh-kay-mon doesn't sound bad. It would be a silly thing to get angry over.

No the makes an A sound like resum or beyonc. Good on you for proving the point.

Pokerman. Pikanons. Saying anything really.

is the original Japanese. It's Poh-keh-mon. It's a silly thing to get elitist about. But if you are going to be elitist you should be right.

cavalierking posted...

you're talking about shit you don't know

Top kek from the guy who thinks English speakers can easily pronounce Ryu and think riyu and ryu sound similar, which just proves the point that they can't easily pronounce it if it sound similar to them. Light and right sound similar to Japaneae speakers and they have to practice to pronoucne them differently. English speakers never think light sounds like right. Same with Japanese and ryu and riyu.
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ssjevot posted...

Top kek from the guy who thinks English speakers can easily pronounce Ryu and think riyu and ryu sound similar, which just proves the point that they can't easily pronounce it if it sound similar to them. Light and right sound similar to Japaneae speakers and they have to practice to pronoucne them differently. English speakers never think light sounds like right. Same with Japanese and ryu and riyu.

yes, dude, completely different words can sometimes sound similar

it happens in english, too (or have you never asked somebody to repeat themselves before?)

why is this something i have to explain to you

like, let me guess, you've never, ever had to ask for clarification between whether somebody meant or either, am i right

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seriously, all this does is prove my point

you're language-incompetent

yet, despite this, you're trying to school people on shit

you

don't

know
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cavalierking posted...

yes, dude, completely different words can sometimes sound similar

...and the same word can sound completely different.

Nobody really knows how to pronounce "missouri" - nobody.

ssjevot posted...

Poh-keh-mon

No, its not. You are saying because the japanese word is one thing that the doesnt make an A sound.

Its literally using . They specifically used .
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cavalierking posted...

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Very different scenario you constructed. Different words with similar meanings and the same sound. The difference being a glottal stop versus a long o sound. Ryu and riyu is a very different situation. The sound and the mora are different (is two morae, whereas is three morae). Other than the at the end the initial sound is not the same. Similar to my light and right example. If the initial sound is different we don't get confused normally. That you think they sound similar is again due to you being a non-native speaker. Unless you have practiced it isn't a sound you can hear easily so most people default to reeyuu or ryeuu because those sounds exist in their language. Just like Japanese do with light and right.

It's weird you simultaneously mock people for not being able to say Ryu correctly and also believe that it sounds similar to their incorrect pronunciation. It's like your only consistent stance is be angry and claim other people are stupid, wrong, etc. Pretty sad.
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Lairen posted...

ssjevot posted...

Poh-keh-mon

No, its not. You are saying because the japanese word is one thing that the doesnt make an A sound.

Its literally using . They specifically used .

No, I was just saying if you were going to complain about how Americans pronounce the word, as shown here:
Lairen posted...

Majority of US cant say Poh-KAY-mon. Just say any word any way you want. If anyone has a problem with you speaking wrong, ignore em.

You should be complaining about them not saying it like Japanese people do. Seems weird to be mad at them for saying it in an American way different than your own preferred American way. Spelling doesn't convey consistent pronunciation in English. Though, thought, through, etc.
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ssjevot posted...

No, I was just saying if you were going to complain about how Americans pronounce the word, as shown here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5T3ubSdhSM" data-time="

This guy is way more accurate than an American would want to admit.

Pokmon is an original word for Pocket monsters but the direct would be poketto monsuta.

Three different words.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

ssjevot posted...

No, I was just saying if you were going to complain about how Americans pronounce the word, as shown here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5T3ubSdhSM" data-time="

This guy is way more accurate than an American would want to admit.

"Oh, ah, oh, oh, ah, ah, oh, ah, oh"
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Questionmarktarius posted...

This guy is way more accurate than an American would want to admit.

I'll gladly admit he did a great job explaining a lot of the pronunciation quirks in American English.
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English as the only language type of problems, pronunciation is always a tricky one!
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Lairen posted...

Pokmon is an original word for Pocket monsters but the direct would be poketto monsuta.

Three different words.

We call it in Japan too. Very rarely do you say the whole thing. Lot of game series get similar contractions. Like Dragon Quest is .

But yes I agree the English version should be treated as its own thing. Like karaoke obviously it's accepted to be pronounced the American way. Or if you want an even more extreme example tsunami. If you said it the Japanese way people would look at you weird. But I think things like Ryu are similar. People are going to say rye-you or ree-you and it's whatever. Getting super bent out of shape just isn't worth it. I don't even consider most of the English words in Japanese to be English. They often have different nuances and the pronunciation is obviously different much of the time. It's just a silly thing to be angry about.
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The Japanese sound often romanized as "r" isn the same as our "r" in English. So yeah, "proper" pronunciation of the character's name is difficult for English speakers without practice.

Dragonblade01 posted...

The Japanese sound often romanized as "r" isn the same as our "r" in English. So yeah, "proper" pronunciation of the character's name is difficult for English speakers without practice.

R doesn't really do anything outside of General American or Canadian English anyway.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

The Japanese sound often romanized as "r" isn the same as our "r" in English. So yeah, "proper" pronunciation of the character's name is difficult for English speakers without practice.

R doesn't really do anything outside of General American or Canadian English anyway.

Why do Brits keep putting it on the end of random words like saw then? :p
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ssjevot posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

The Japanese sound often romanized as "r" isn the same as our "r" in English. So yeah, "proper" pronunciation of the character's name is difficult for English speakers without practice.

R doesn't really do anything outside of General American or Canadian English anyway.

Why do Brits keep putting it on the end of random words like saw then? :p

i...uh...
I guess that's just an accident of where the tongue ends up at the time.

ssjevot posted...

Very different scenario...

again, selectively choosing what and what not to respond to cause even your own dumb ass somehow knows it's wrong

it's... a bad look

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and, again, when spoken at the natural pace that actual, native speakers speak at (i.e. not the way they speak to you due to things i've already mentioned), and can sound very similar

sure, context will often give away which one the speaker is speaking, but in isolation, the two words can blur

they're very similar phonetically after all, and morae (and/or whatever else you want to google and ostentatiously bring up) only apply to perfect and deliberate pronunciation

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also, let me share with you something, bro:

i'm japanese, through my dad (shock!)

while admittedly not fluent, i can speak and intonate japanese with a native accent since i've been to japan so many times since infancy (but otherwise, i'm american born-and-raised, so i speak english natively and fluently)

and because i make super smart decisions in life, i was a japanese major in college

every time we had to introduce ourselves, my professors always called me out and questioned why i was in their class (yes, that's how good my accent is if you needed proof or whatever)

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i also took a linguistics class, where one day we very specifically went over what sounds are and aren't possible in english

while most obviously can't replicate the native japanese accent, the correct pronunciation is 95% doable by any native english speaker who isn't intellectually and/or linguistically challenged - as i've mentioned many times already, the sounds are there in english

not that you even need to be formally educated on this type of thing to know that, but there you go

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and lastly, though slightly off-topic, something that anybody who's been around people who're into japan will tell you is that 99% of people who are into japan are complete spazzes

like, it explains you misinterpreting my posts as being super angry in tone

it explains you taking valid criticism poorly

it explains you writing things like "top kek"

and it also explains you speaking with a gross, undeserved confidence on shit you don't know, which in turn speaks to an even larger problem of a general lack of self-awareness (aside from aforementioned dumb ass recognizing it's dumb) that is super common with your ilk

like, dude, you are a complete stereotype, and i only had posts of yours on an internet forum to go by

imagine being that easily discernible a person, for real

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but anyway, tldr:

- @ssjevot doesn't know what he's talking about

- ryu is just "ryoo", or the word "view" but with an "r"

- it's your prerogative to pronounce the name however you want, but to keep mispronouncing it despite knowledge of the correct pronunciation is... weird
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I've been saying Rye-U my entire life. Not changing that any time soon.
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