Board 8 > Pokemon Sword and Shield to not include all the Pokemon

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Nanis23
06/11/19 4:57:11 PM
#1:


Can't find a video of it without some Youtuber talking nonstop so here just a link to a Serebii tweet
https://twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/1138494564078108674

This is the worst video game news I have ever read ever since Mega Man died on me in 2011
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Grand Kirby
06/11/19 4:59:21 PM
#2:


Lol gamefreak
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LordoftheMorons
06/11/19 5:01:07 PM
#3:


Ultra lame

Can't believe that there are a few people defending this
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Mewtwo59
06/11/19 5:01:11 PM
#4:


Every time I think Game Freak can't get more incompetent, they prove me wrong.
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Nrrr
06/11/19 5:01:40 PM
#5:


Uh does any Pokemon game include all the Pokemon?
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LordoftheMorons
06/11/19 5:02:49 PM
#6:


Nrrr posted...
Uh does any Pokemon game include all the Pokemon?

You can't even transfer in Pokemon that aren't in the regional dex
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Mewtwo59
06/11/19 5:02:53 PM
#7:


They all did until the Let's Go games.
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Bane_Of_Despair
06/11/19 5:03:47 PM
#9:


sucks for people that care about that but I really don't, I like trying out new pokes

I'll say yea, more is always better obviously but I'm not torn up about it
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LusterSoldier
06/11/19 5:04:44 PM
#10:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Ultra lame

Can't believe that there are a few people defending this


Not even Serebii himself is defending this, and people have accused him of blindly defending almost every decision made by Game Freak.

https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/1138495077385457665
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Nrrr
06/11/19 5:05:14 PM
#11:


Bane_Of_Despair posted...
sucks for people that care about that but I really don't, I like trying out new pokes

I'll say yea, more is always better obviously but I'm not torn up about it


This. Like idk why they didn't include the rest but it won't change anything for me.
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MetalmindStats
06/11/19 5:05:35 PM
#12:


Mewtwo59 posted...
They all did until the Let's Go games.

Ruby and Sapphire started out just like Sword and Shield are going to, with only the Pokmon in their regional dex. The missing ones weren't made available until FireRed and LeafGreen, or in some cases Emerald.
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LordoftheMorons
06/11/19 5:05:37 PM
#13:


Thank god Quagsire was in the Direct I guess...
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mnkboy907
06/11/19 5:07:00 PM
#14:


This is incredibly stupid, but then I only use new Pokemon in a new generation anyway, so I guess it won't impact me as much. Also I saw Snorunt so my favorite is in at least...

But it's gonna mean most legendaries and starters will be completely absent for online/competitive play. Weird.
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Underleveled
06/11/19 5:07:01 PM
#15:


Pay for a subscription to hold your Pokemon prisoner until the next time they appear in a game, which could be years.
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Mewtwo59
06/11/19 5:07:17 PM
#16:


MetalmindStats posted...
Mewtwo59 posted...
They all did until the Let's Go games.

Ruby and Sapphire started out just like Sword and Shield are going to, with only the Pokmon in their regional dex. The missing ones weren't made available until FireRed and LeafGreen, or in some cases Emerald.


Yeah, but the old Pokmon were in the game, just inacessable until FRLG and Colosseum. This sounds like the Pokmon aren't even in the games data.
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PrinceKaro
06/11/19 5:07:55 PM
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Pokemon: gotta catch just some of em!
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Nanis23
06/11/19 5:08:13 PM
#18:


LusterSoldier posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Ultra lame

Can't believe that there are a few people defending this


Not even Serebii himself is defending this, and people have accused him of blindly defending almost every decision made by Game Freak.

https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/1138495077385457665

Yeah because this is really undefendable
Few people are actually ok with this for some reason
To me this is killing my favorite aspect of the series
It's a shame because I was starting to hype on Sword and Shield and now it's all gone
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swordz9
06/11/19 5:08:28 PM
#19:


Sucks for those who expected everything, but as somebody who wont even bother catching any Pokemon that arent brand new to Sword/Shield I cant say I care. Id love every single new Gen to be like B/W where only new Pokemon are available (well other than the post game, but you know what I mean)
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voltch
06/11/19 5:08:42 PM
#20:


Well this sucks.

Guess everything will be made available later on at some arbitrary date, but it means some fan favs/personal favs won't be around initially.
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Mewtwo59
06/11/19 5:09:39 PM
#21:


Bane_Of_Despair posted...
sucks for people that care about that but I really don't, I like trying out new pokes

I'll say yea, more is always better obviously but I'm not torn up about it


I mean, Home isn't even going to be up until months after the games are out. Most people will have beaten the game by then and probably want to bring their old stuff up for the post game.
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Nanis23
06/11/19 5:10:00 PM
#22:


Anyway, best video I could find
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqADQ0Y_ApQ" data-time="&start=68

1:08 - 1:52

tldw - "we didn't have time so we cut the Pokemon in the game"
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mnkboy907
06/11/19 5:10:08 PM
#23:


MetalmindStats posted...
Mewtwo59 posted...
They all did until the Let's Go games.

Ruby and Sapphire started out just like Sword and Shield are going to, with only the Pokmon in their regional dex. The missing ones weren't made available until FireRed and LeafGreen, or in some cases Emerald.

The data for those Pokemon were still in RS though. It sounds like that won't be the case here unless they patch them in later. And given that Game Freak never patched in new megas/forms/Pokemon into previous 3DS games, that's far from a guarantee.
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Paratroopa1
06/11/19 5:10:46 PM
#24:


development time is hellishly limited when you need to implement 800+ pokemon (and that's not even including all the forms) into literally every new thing that you need to do

Pokemon as a series is getting really bloated and I'm perfectly fine with taking steps to make sure they can actually still make the games - the older games will still be there with all of the pokemon they have in them

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FBike1
06/11/19 5:10:53 PM
#25:


Looks like they just saved me a hundred bucks.
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Mewtwo59
06/11/19 5:11:29 PM
#26:


Nanis23 posted...
Anyway, best video I could find
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqADQ0Y_ApQ" data-time="

1:08 - 1:52

tldw - "we didn't have time so we cut the Pokemon in the game"

I don't know why the developer of one of the largest IPs in the world runs their development like an indie game company.
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SantaRPidgey
06/11/19 5:11:58 PM
#27:


There's a lot of people being like "they're probably saving this for the third version for money"

but I can't think any time game freak cut a fan loved feature and then brought it back in a third game. They just like to cut stuff.

Oh well, it just means I save money on not having to buy pokemon this gen.
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WazzupGenius00
06/11/19 5:14:24 PM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
Anyway, best video I could find
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqADQ0Y_ApQ" data-time="

1:08 - 1:52

tldw - "we didn't have time so we cut the Pokemon in the game"

I don't know why the developer of one of the largest IPs in the world runs their development like an indie game company.

Not "one of." THE largest IP in the world

And I respect GameFreak's desire to remain small but like, TPC needs to hire some contractors or something for this kind of thing I think
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Nrrr
06/11/19 5:16:48 PM
#29:


I don't think they care because they assume people like to play their games and their purchase isn't dependent on being able to bring your old Pokemon, but rather...you liking playing a new Pokemon game. Apparently they underestimate the weirdness of their fans.
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Nanis23
06/11/19 5:22:05 PM
#30:


SantaRPidgey posted...
There's a lot of people being like "they're probably saving this for the third version for money"

but I can't think any time game freak cut a fan loved feature and then brought it back in a third game. They just like to cut stuff.

Oh well, it just means I save money on not having to buy pokemon this gen.

If it's just SwSh having this problem, then fine. It sucks but there will always be the next game and we are used to the series having it's ups and downs
But to me it feels like the start of a new trend - Pokemon might get cut from newer games all the time
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LusterSoldier
06/11/19 5:25:49 PM
#31:


Mewtwo59 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
Anyway, best video I could find
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqADQ0Y_ApQ" data-time="

1:08 - 1:52

tldw - "we didn't have time so we cut the Pokemon in the game"

I don't know why the developer of one of the largest IPs in the world runs their development like an indie game company.


As I said in another topic, Game Freak is on a tight schedule when developing each new generation of games:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77778761/923131495
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skullbone
06/11/19 5:26:06 PM
#32:


Doesn't every Pokemon in this game have the dynamax thing? Maybe they didn't want to animate 800 Pokemon doing that?

Also they had to stop including every pokemon eventually right? As the graphics get better and the number of pokemon keeps going up these games are going to become unreasonable otherwise.
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Mewtwo59
06/11/19 5:27:36 PM
#33:


LusterSoldier posted...
Mewtwo59 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
Anyway, best video I could find
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqADQ0Y_ApQ" data-time="

1:08 - 1:52

tldw - "we didn't have time so we cut the Pokemon in the game"

I don't know why the developer of one of the largest IPs in the world runs their development like an indie game company.


As I said in another topic, Game Freak is on a tight schedule when developing each new generation of games:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77778761/923131495


So hire more people. They have the money for it.
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Grand Kirby
06/11/19 5:30:13 PM
#34:


Look at the credits of Pokemon game and you'll see their development staff size is relatively low, compared to other big name titles. It's bizarre.

Honestly I'd be worried about what the work environment is like there. If any studio needed an expansion it's them.
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LusterSoldier
06/11/19 5:31:37 PM
#35:


Mewtwo59 posted...
So hire more people. They have the money for it.


Especially if the games are going to be sold at a $60 price tag now that the series has moved to a console, that's a 50% increase in total profit from the game sales alone. The games only sold for $40 prior to the Switch. More profit from sales of the games should allow them to hire more developers, which has the added benefit of getting more polished games for the first set of games in each generation.
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NBIceman
06/11/19 5:43:43 PM
#36:


Add me to the list of "I don't personally care about this one bit but yeah it's a dumb and baffling decision."
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ExThaNemesis
06/11/19 5:43:49 PM
#37:


Oof.

This just went from Day 1 I'm buying both copies to now I'mma just wait and maybe not get it at all.
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MoogleKupo141
06/11/19 5:47:21 PM
#38:


im going to wait to fret about this until we see exactly how many didnt make it in

like if they managed to include 500 of them and I just cant bring over shit like Finneon is it really affecting my enjoyment of the game very much?
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StealThisSheen
06/11/19 5:47:55 PM
#39:


That said the more I think about it, if this means everybody you battle won't have the same three legendaries on their team then I'm sorta okay with this temporarily
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ExThaNemesis
06/11/19 5:51:39 PM
#40:


Literally nobody asked for the idiotic Dynamax thing if they had just left gameplay as it is and included all of the Pokemon it would've been so much better. Smh.
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Zigzagoon
06/11/19 6:04:48 PM
#41:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Literally nobody asked for the idiotic Dynamax thing if they had just left gameplay as it is and included all of the Pokemon it would've been so much better. Smh.

I prefer having Dynamax at the expense of some pokes I probably wont ever use anyways.

I understand people being pissed about it for sure, but it doesnt bother me much at all.
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htaeD
06/11/19 6:05:34 PM
#42:


You'd think a switch game can easily handle 800+ pokemon.

Even if I wouldnt care about catching them all, this is a dumb decision.
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Mewtwo59
06/11/19 6:07:00 PM
#43:


Zigzagoon posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
Literally nobody asked for the idiotic Dynamax thing if they had just left gameplay as it is and included all of the Pokemon it would've been so much better. Smh.

I prefer having Dynamax at the expense of some pokes I probably wont ever use anyways.

I understand people being pissed about it for sure, but it doesnt bother me much at all.


You're Ermine, so you should know it's your favorites that are getting cut.
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TheCodeisBosco
06/11/19 6:08:42 PM
#44:


We're finally getting a mainline Pokemon title on a console, after two decades of fan demand. And it's this. Honestly, this gen looks so fucking subpar and uninteresting in literally every aspect. I get that bloat had to catch up with the series at some point, but do we really have to pull this shit for the first console - and $60 - title?

To be fair, though, I was pleasantly surprised with Let's Go despite how bad it looked pre-release. Hopefully Sword/Shield will be the same way?
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MoogleKupo141
06/11/19 6:13:24 PM
#45:


htaeD posted...
You'd think a switch game can easily handle 800+ pokemon.

Even if I wouldnt care about catching them all, this is a dumb decision.


The game can handle that many, its just that they didnt have development time to include that many.
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Nrrr
06/11/19 6:14:24 PM
#46:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
htaeD posted...
You'd think a switch game can easily handle 800+ pokemon.

Even if I wouldnt care about catching them all, this is a dumb decision.


The game can handle that many, its just that they didnt have development time to include that many.


Not true. It's just a fact that Snorlax takes up a significant amount of data.
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Mewtwo59
06/11/19 6:49:02 PM
#47:


Nrrr posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...
htaeD posted...
You'd think a switch game can easily handle 800+ pokemon.

Even if I wouldnt care about catching them all, this is a dumb decision.


The game can handle that many, its just that they didnt have development time to include that many.


Not true. It's just a fact that Snorlax takes up a significant amount of data.


Yeah, those Dynamaxed Pokemon take up so much space they have to cut some to fit them in the cart.
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CelesMyUserName
06/11/19 6:55:35 PM
#48:


honestly I am in the "it doesn't really effect me" camp but yeah it is really lame

but the man lameness is paying subscription services to hold pokemon we can't use
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Zigzagoon
06/11/19 7:02:58 PM
#49:


Mewtwo59 posted...
Zigzagoon posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
Literally nobody asked for the idiotic Dynamax thing if they had just left gameplay as it is and included all of the Pokemon it would've been so much better. Smh.

I prefer having Dynamax at the expense of some pokes I probably wont ever use anyways.

I understand people being pissed about it for sure, but it doesnt bother me much at all.


You're Ermine, so you should know it's your favorites that are getting cut.

Ive already seen Galvantula and Hawlucha, thats 2 more favs than I expected
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Psyonix
06/11/19 7:03:07 PM
#50:


Underleveled posted...
Pay for a subscription to hold your Pokemon prisoner until the next time they appear in a game, which could be years.


You want me to pay real money for virtual animals?
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mnkboy907
06/11/19 7:04:19 PM
#51:


StealThisSheen posted...
That said the more I think about it, if this means everybody you battle won't have the same three legendaries on their team then I'm sorta okay with this temporarily

Of course it'll still be that, only with different legendaries now.
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