Poll of the Day > Are US border internment camps actually just concentration camps?

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I hate that some of you are allowed to vote.

ASlaveObeys posted...

I hate that some of you are allowed to vote.

Literal fascist statements coming from the tolerant left
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OhhhJa posted...

The_tall_midget posted...

I didn't refer to them as concentration when they were being used under Obama and I don't now. But then again, I ain't a regressive leftist.

These dudes are told what to think by the media. Some of them actually seem intelligent enough but they really just cant seem to think for themselves. They just latch onto whatever the latest clickbait is. They're like angry zombies

dat projection tho
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Its hard to take someones opinion seriously when they legitimately confuse Ebola and the measles. How fucking dumb do you have to be to do that.

Cacciato posted...

Its hard to take someones opinion seriously when they legitimately confuse Ebola and the measles. How fucking dumb do you have to be to do that.

I didnt confuse them in the way that you're trying to frame but to be fair the ebola epidemic ended in 2016 so it's not like its ancient history. But you're also a former cop so I question your intelligence tbh. I haven't known a cop that wasnt dumb as rocks. Its bottom tier "I cant find a real career so I settled for this job."

Phantom_Nook posted...

dat projection tho

I fail to see how. I'm not the one who read an article and decided we should suddenly call these concentration camps

Blightzkrieg posted...

ASlaveObeys posted...

I hate that some of you are allowed to vote.

Literal fascist statements coming from the tolerant left

I'm incredibly intolerant.

I didnt say the US

It's all about population density, not intent.
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OhhhJa posted...

I didnt confuse them in the way that you're trying to frame but to be fair the ebola epidemic ended in 2016 so it's not like its ancient history. But you're also a former cop so I question your intelligence tbh. I haven't known a cop that wasnt dumb as rocks. Its bottom tier "I cant find a real career so I settled for this job."

Oh you got me! But if you seriously cant grasp the significant differences between the two diseases it's not like you'd see the irony in claiming that "these guys only see what the media feeds them hyuck hyuck hyuck. I'm way too smart for that".

Mandatory detention was officially authorized by President Bill Clinton in 1996, with the enactment of the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty and the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility acts.

It's also been around since 1890.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_detention_in_the_United_States
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Cacciato posted...

OhhhJa posted...

I didnt confuse them in the way that you're trying to frame but to be fair the ebola epidemic ended in 2016 so it's not like its ancient history. But you're also a former cop so I question your intelligence tbh. I haven't known a cop that wasnt dumb as rocks. Its bottom tier "I cant find a real career so I settled for this job."

Oh you got me! But if you seriously cant grasp the significant differences between the two diseases it's not like you'd see the irony in claiming that "these guys only see what the media feeds them hyuck hyuck hyuck. I'm way too smart for that".

See this is where your lack of intelligence comes into play. I heard the news in the background the other day and they mentioned that there were diseases coming out into CA and wherever else (like I said I was half paying attention and I dont remember which news organization it even was). It must have been measles that they mentioned but like I said it was in the background. But also I wouldnt be shocked at all if some dudes from poverty stricken areas brought Ebola in. Hell, it could happen tomorrow. Why do you think the government has been so adamant about everyone being vaccinated lately? It's because they know people with diseases are coming in.

It's always the same guys being contrary for the sake of it.
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OhhhJa posted...

Cacciato posted...

OhhhJa posted...

I didnt confuse them in the way that you're trying to frame but to be fair the ebola epidemic ended in 2016 so it's not like its ancient history. But you're also a former cop so I question your intelligence tbh. I haven't known a cop that wasnt dumb as rocks. Its bottom tier "I cant find a real career so I settled for this job."

Oh you got me! But if you seriously cant grasp the significant differences between the two diseases it's not like you'd see the irony in claiming that "these guys only see what the media feeds them hyuck hyuck hyuck. I'm way too smart for that".

See this is where your lack of intelligence comes into play. I heard the news in the background the other day and they mentioned that there were diseases coming out into CA and wherever else (like I said I was half paying attention and I dont remember which news organization it even was). It must have been measles that they mentioned but like I said it was in the background. But also I wouldnt be shocked at all if some dudes from poverty stricken areas brought Ebola in. Hell, it could happen tomorrow. Why do you think the government has been so adamant about everyone being vaccinated lately? It's because they know people with diseases are coming in.

No, man. I get it. Its common to confuse regularly vaccinated diseases with dramatic hemorrhagic fevers. Youre totally right.

Cacciato posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Cacciato posted...

OhhhJa posted...

I didnt confuse them in the way that you're trying to frame but to be fair the ebola epidemic ended in 2016 so it's not like its ancient history. But you're also a former cop so I question your intelligence tbh. I haven't known a cop that wasnt dumb as rocks. Its bottom tier "I cant find a real career so I settled for this job."

Oh you got me! But if you seriously cant grasp the significant differences between the two diseases it's not like you'd see the irony in claiming that "these guys only see what the media feeds them hyuck hyuck hyuck. I'm way too smart for that".

See this is where your lack of intelligence comes into play. I heard the news in the background the other day and they mentioned that there were diseases coming out into CA and wherever else (like I said I was half paying attention and I dont remember which news organization it even was). It must have been measles that they mentioned but like I said it was in the background. But also I wouldnt be shocked at all if some dudes from poverty stricken areas brought Ebola in. Hell, it could happen tomorrow. Why do you think the government has been so adamant about everyone being vaccinated lately? It's because they know people with diseases are coming in.

No, man. I get it. Its common to confuse regularly vaccinated diseases with dramatic hemorrhagic fevers. Youre totally right.

I mean... it's entirely possible that they mentioned the outbreak in west africa in late 2018 but like I said, i wasnt engaged

Unfortunately, it appears they are concentration camps, at least in the sense that they're places to hold many civilians indefinitely without trial. Maybe they wouldn't count if Trump cared enough to get the immigrants officially punished or let in as refugees.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27813648/concentration-camps-southern-border-migrant-detention-facilities-trump/

GameLord113 posted...

I find it ignorant and disrespectful when someone, especially a politician, refers to them as such.

Well, blame the politicians for dumbing down schools so they can pander nonsense to an increasingly uninformed electorate while, hilariously enough, drawing replacements at least partly from that same source.

AOC pretty much exists to make Sarah Palin look coherent and intelligent.

slacker03150 posted...

a place where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities

Sounds like an accurate description based on what we know about them.

Doesn't fit the bill in the least, considering that literally every prison (except maybe Norwegian ones) could be called a concentration camp by that definition.
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Zeus posted...

Doesn't fit the bill in the least, considering that literally every prison (except maybe Norwegian ones) could be called a concentration camp by that definition

To be fair our prison system does need a dramatic overhaul.
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It's not even comparable to the concentration camps the left is all of a sudden comparing them to.
But if you want be technical, nearly everyone in there is an "invader".

Also, its not like these people were involuntarily forced to enter the camps..They could be avoided entirely by turning around and not illegally crossing a border of a foreign country... like every other legal immigrant does.
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Zeus posted...

Well, blame the politicians for dumbing down schools so they can pander nonsense to an increasingly uninformed electorate while, hilariously enough, drawing replacements at least partly from that same source.

AOC pretty much exists to make Sarah Palin look coherent and intelligent.

Yeah true that. It's all a lie anyway. It's not about human rights. They're doing it for Votes and Corporations. More people willing to work breadline pay, lower salaries and benefits for the middle class and people on the lower rung of the economic ladder.

It's just not sustainable. Eventually every state will turn into Detroit, California, Chicago. With a small elite bunch of Democrats living off the fat of the land while everyone else struggles to get by and who answer to no one.

Never mind how many people died or got trafficked or died on the route to the US. If you stop them and send them back, they'll stop trying. The Crime increases on normal US citizens, because of MS13 and the likes are also trying to get in.

It's countries from all over South America, Africa, The middle East etc. So they're not true refugees because they not taking refuge in the first safe country they get to. No, they want to make it to the so called land of milk and honey.
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kangolcone posted...

Its using a term with a definition that meets the criteria. In reality, they are concentration camps, no matter how uncomfortable that makes you.

it doesn't make me uncomfortable, any conclusion (these camps are fine; these camps are terrible; these camps are technically "concentration camps"; these camps are technically not "concentration camps") is fine by me if it's accurate.

the use of the term "concentration camp" is what is misleading, since it's irrelevant. depending on the definition, the term could apply to both WW2 camps and these camps at the same time even if these camps are ok and WW2 camps are not.

if "concentration camp" is bad, then something about the definition is bad, and whatever that is, if the term applies to these camps, then that bad property must also apply to these camps. and in that case, it's the bad property of the camp that's the problem, not that the term "concentration camp" happens to or happens not to apply.
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Zeus posted...

AOC pretty much exists to make Sarah Palin look coherent and intelligent.

Now my head hurts...
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Zeus posted...

AOC pretty much exists to make Sarah Palin look coherent and intelligent.

I believe that Zeus actually believes this.

From anyone else you could only consider such a statement a joke, but from Zeus?

Awww yeah! This topic got modded but I managed to get it overturned!
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PK_Spam posted...

Awww yeah! This topic got modded but I managed to get it overturned!

Yowza. How did you get that right? I've never had a modded post overturned, just gave up for a while.
I'm guessing it was offensive?
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Yeah I'm pretty shocked they overturned this dumpster fire

Probably said: "This thread makes Trump look bad."

And the regressive mods that infest the board were convinced.
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OhhhJa posted...

Yeah I'm pretty shocked they overturned this dumpster fire

Dictionary definitions are a dumpster fire?

BlackScythe0 posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Yeah I'm pretty shocked they overturned this dumpster fire

Dictionary definitions are a dumpster fire?

Have you not read through this topic? That's what im referring to. Anyway, I think it was you that dodged my question earlier or maybe someone. As long as you're willing to say these were concentration camps under Obama, bush, and Clinton, I'm willing to agree since by definition they were concentration camps as well

OhhhJa posted...

BlackScythe0 posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Yeah I'm pretty shocked they overturned this dumpster fire

Dictionary definitions are a dumpster fire?

Have you not read through this topic? That's what im referring to. Anyway, I think it was you that dodged my question earlier or maybe someone. As long as you're willing to say these were concentration camps under Obama, bush, and Clinton, I'm willing to agree since by definition they were concentration camps as well

Until Sessions initiated the family separation policy I had never heard of these camps.

That behavior attracted attention to them, and we are suddenly hearing non stop about how over crowded they are.

I don't have the level of knowledge to answer your question.

Anyone that says yes is a fool and needs to go reread their history.
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BlackScythe0 posted...

OhhhJa posted...

BlackScythe0 posted...

OhhhJa posted...

Yeah I'm pretty shocked they overturned this dumpster fire

Dictionary definitions are a dumpster fire?

Have you not read through this topic? That's what im referring to. Anyway, I think it was you that dodged my question earlier or maybe someone. As long as you're willing to say these were concentration camps under Obama, bush, and Clinton, I'm willing to agree since by definition they were concentration camps as well

Until Sessions initiated the family separation policy I had never heard of these camps.

That behavior attracted attention to them, and we are suddenly hearing non stop about how over crowded they are.

I don't have the level of knowledge to answer your question.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_detention_in_the_United_States

This is why its important to do research and not just let some clickbait article form your opinion for you. It reminds me of this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv4kRa8gKGA" data-time="

OhhhJa posted...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_detention_in_the_United_States

This is why its important to do research and not just let some clickbait article form your opinion for you. It reminds me of this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv4kRa8gKGA" data-time="

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Riig_IbigE" data-time="&start=8
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No they aren't, let's not be stupid.
You know what you're doing and it's not a fair comparison.

OhhhJa posted...

This is why its important to do research and not just let some clickbait article form your opinion for you. It reminds me of this video

o.0

A clickbait article makes the concentration camps concentration camps? It's not because they are just by definition concentration camps?

dioxxys posted...

No they aren't, let's not be stupid.
You know what you're doing and it's not a fair comparison.

"especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities, sometimes to provide forced labor or to await mass execution."

This part is a huge stretch and what I mean by huge stretch is that's not at all what is happening. That part of the definition is why leftists so strongly want the trump administration associated with the term, though.