Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 5: Don't Forget to Read the Forward

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Playerlist (21 alive)
1. Pezloco
2. UltimaterializerX
3. Lea3Lea
4. Red13n
5. Benjamin
6. SBell (Obellisk)
7. Camarija
8. MZero
9. Sir Chris (DoomTheGyarados)
10. 5tarscream
11. Hbthebattle
12. Death (HtaeD)
13. Tom Bombadil
14. TheSultanOfSlam
15. Lopen
16. turbopuns3
17. eaedwards
18. Corrik
19. Luis_Sera
20. Lolo_Guru
21. dowolf
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Hi Tom,

So out of game discussion for a moment but this may help you understand why I am chill. I have had a lot of emotional trauma in my life that I won't go into but early this year I met a woman that really changed all that and has helped me tremendously to heal and be comfortable with who I am all the time, instead of fighting to be heard. She has a little 21 month old that calls me "dad" and it is, honestly, just the best. It is the absolute best.

On top of that I am the head writer of a talk show which has helped me grow tremendously as a person, a communicator, and as a leader. I can yell, but it often won't get me the results I want. Ruling by force does not foster a good experience because just because I can do something doesn't mean I should. By encouraging discussion, by letting people have input even if it isn't input I agree with, the game's wealth of information grows and I am better able to understand motives and someone, such as Lopen, can do fantastic work with a HB so that I don't have to have that burden. We're a team. So I treat the game like one, minus those who I think are on the opposite team.
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Oh, wow! That all sounds incredible, congrats!!!

anyway back to battlin'

1. Pezloco
2. UltimaterializerX
3. Lea3Lea
4. Red13n
5. Benjamin
6. SBell (Obellisk)
7. Camarija
8. MZero
9. Sir Chris (DoomTheGyarados)
10. 5tarscream
11. Hbthebattle
12. Death (HtaeD)
13. Tom Bombadil
14. TheSultanOfSlam
15. Lopen
16. turbopuns3
17. eaedwards
18. Corrik
19. Luis_Sera
20. Lolo_Guru
21. dowolf

now in proper topic!

yay chris I was vaguely aware of some of that or I would be pursuing you harder <3
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I'm gonna need some examples cited of games I've played the slightest bit differently from this one in the last many years, because this is bordering on slander tbqh

....now in proper topic AND properly copied!

Alrighty it is time to get ready to go. This is the last full day of my mom being in town, so I'm kinda at her mercy today. I will be on my phone as much as is socially acceptable (we'll see how new phone's battery does!) and I SUSPECT I will be back before end of day but I am gonna have a hard time keeping up even in the best case. Just in case here's a list because everybody likes lists a whole lot.

1. Pezloco: Lean scum but some of that might be lack of time to post.
2. UltimaterializerX: Lean scum on inactivity but town/null on content
3. Lea3Lea: Don't like that defense
4. Red13n: Was a fan until Pez's attack, now reserving judgment
5. Benjamin: where he go
6. SBell (Obellisk): Awfully quiet compared to last game.
7. Camarija: I still like the claim but not much else
8. MZero: Same thing as last game and he was town there I guess
9. Sir Chris (DoomTheGyarados): Well documented by now that I am weirded out by Chill!Chris, waiting for his response.
10. 5tarscream: Seems like last game and he was town there I guess
11. Hbthebattle: Not a big fan but not sure it's worth leaving my vote on him but not sure who else I want
12. Death (HtaeD): Meh?
13. Tom Bombadil: clearly coasting on early town reads
14. TheSultanOfSlam: has shown up! Seems Sultan-y.
15. Lopen: Town imo
16. turbopuns3: Dunno, so I'm gonna POE him town for now.
17. eaedwards: sir not appearing in this mafia game
18. Corrik: who even knows
19. Luis_Sera: Is smart. No idea on alignment
20. Lolo_Guru: sir not appearing in this mafia game
21. dowolf: only posts jabs but they're p good ones

##Unvote: Hb
##Vote: Lea
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Shouldnt you WANT people to get along better given you gave me and Corrik the Town Get Along shirt?

absolutely but that doesn't make them town
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...you like the clearly fake claim of opera singer in English Lit mafia?

Lea3Lea posted...

I'm gonna need some examples cited of games I've played the slightest bit differently from this one in the last many years, because this is bordering on slander tbqh

Oh Lea. Dear, sweet Lea.

... Only scum try to replicate their past play. "I'm the same! I'm the same!"

I've been accused of being different and i just shrug and go "yeah a bit, but that's really besides the point."

You keep saying "I am in my meta!"

Lynched for the wrong reason attitude big time tbh
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what is clearly fake

do we not have opera in our books
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UltimaterializerX posted...

(1) pezloco: Ulti, red

Best host.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Note: if you find any mistake with votals, make sure you tag me and direct me to post numbers where I can make amends

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

I'm gonna need some examples cited of games I've played the slightest bit differently from this one in the last many years, because this is bordering on slander tbqh

Oh Lea. Dear, sweet Lea.

... Only scum try to replicate their past play. "I'm the same! I'm the same!"

I've been accused of being different and i just shrug and go "yeah a bit, but that's really besides the point."

You keep saying "I am in my meta!"

Lynched for the wrong reason attitude big time tbh

If I was scum I'd be big time salty that Mzero and pals all have free passes too

I mean if you were scum you'd only go after weak players and be toothless.

...Wait a second!!!
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Also it occurs to me that the rules don't include a colon for Unvoting. Therefore, @5tarscream 's previous unvote is accepted
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Lea I never thought you were a bad player myself.
I didnt even mind your posts this game since I recalled you jumping trains a lot in the past (as town that is)
What I dont remember is you throwing being this down on yourself and thats throwing me off.
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I'll admit I'm trolling a little because I've still got my Anti Chris weapon in my pocket.

Ulti, that was like my third ever mafia game and it was seven years ago.

I am awake.

Now the real question is that if Lea will follow her own philosophy and jump on her own lynch :^)
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Also if I don't think you are a bad player then you aren't a bad player.

I am as legitimately elitist as it gets.
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If its okay to talk about the past at all that is.
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##Unvote: eaedwards

I hope thats right. For future reference do I need the name or just the : to unvote?

I actually didnt have a problem with leas first responses like everyone else did. It honestly seemed like she was just playing around and pretending and honestly just not taking it seriously. Which is seemingly the ppposite of how others read it. I genuinely think Lea had no reaction to the votes because like she said herself when other votes gained a few followers. Its a long way from a lynch. Id prefer Lea took it more seriously and actually put up a real defense but that wont happen without more votes I feel.

Lea3Lea posted...

I'll admit I'm trolling a little because I've still got my Anti Chris weapon in my pocket.

Ulti, that was like my third ever mafia game and it was seven years ago.

There are no Anti Chris weapons.
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Hbthebattle posted...

I am awake.

Now the real question is that if Lea will follow her own philosophy and jump on her own lynch :^)

Whats your schedule even like? It sounds nightmarish so far.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Im a bit wary of Tom. Anyone involved with last game should know full well I have to have a change in attitude to be allowed to keep playing here. So bringing up a change in tone as a leaning scum read seems off.

For most people Id shrug it off but he is literally the guy who gave me a Get Along shirt. And he also says he doesnt like Chris acting chill either.

Chris does that raise an alarm at all?

Nah, Tom is just prey who is wary of former predators acting nice.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Im a bit wary of Tom. Anyone involved with last game should know full well I have to have a change in attitude to be allowed to keep playing here. So bringing up a change in tone as a leaning scum read seems off.

For most people Id shrug it off but he is literally the guy who gave me a Get Along shirt. And he also says he doesnt like Chris acting chill either.

Chris does that raise an alarm at all?

To be fair, if you are scum you would love to use the new rules as a shield.
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htaeD posted...

Lea I never thought you were a bad player myself.
I didnt even mind your posts this game since I recalled you jumping trains a lot in the past (as town that is)
What I dont remember is you throwing being this down on yourself and thats throwing me off.

See, that's what confuses me. This has been literally every game I've been in for years. My win record is like 0-23. The only difference now is that I'm at peace with it and it doesn't bother me. It's not even intended as a defense, I'm genuinely curious what exactly people are judging me on.

htaeD posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

I am awake.

Now the real question is that if Lea will follow her own philosophy and jump on her own lynch :^)

Whats your schedule even like? It sounds nightmarish so far.

I mean, today its pretty bad, but I will be on my phone periodically. Wednesday is pretty much wide open until like 6.
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RogueNoble posted...

Ulti in the sign up topic you literally said "expand, we haven't had an SK in so long" which is literally the same thought Pez had, in a very literal way

Did you ever respond to this, or my other response asking if you'd responded to this?

I feel like I saw the "Chris is too chill" argument last game or two I lurked he was in too and honestly it hasn't really applied for years I don't think. Dude stopped being a seething rage monster years ago. Chris being chill is just a thing he does now. Shouldn't really be a tell either way. I also feel like Tom should know that better than a lot of people so to me him bringing that up is kinda weird.
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It must be pretty rough to be judged on how you used to play mafia years ago~~

Oh and to follow up my earlier comment about Lea and SBell fighting it out the loser gets my vote on them. SBell where you at? You know if you do nothing you lose right?

Sbell made the mistake of pitying me and I kicked him the shins

Id like to test if this is Ulti really turning over a new leaf or just scum. Ulti if I lynch you were still friends right?

Lea3Lea posted...

htaeD posted...

Lea I never thought you were a bad player myself.
I didnt even mind your posts this game since I recalled you jumping trains a lot in the past (as town that is)
What I dont remember is you throwing being this down on yourself and thats throwing me off.

See, that's what confuses me. This has been literally every game I've been in for years. My win record is like 0-23. The only difference now is that I'm at peace with it and it doesn't bother me. It's not even intended as a defense, I'm genuinely curious what exactly people are judging me on.

Oh, god not this. The poor me, Im so incompetent and innocent defense. Not only is generally not true, it signifies someone is being manipulative. I got away with it in Smash Ultimate because you guys didnt know how I played then, but I can recognize its usage here.
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Lea3Lea posted...

htaeD posted...

Lea I never thought you were a bad player myself.
I didnt even mind your posts this game since I recalled you jumping trains a lot in the past (as town that is)
What I dont remember is you throwing being this down on yourself and thats throwing me off.

See, that's what confuses me. This has been literally every game I've been in for years. My win record is like 0-23. The only difference now is that I'm at peace with it and it doesn't bother me. It's not even intended as a defense, I'm genuinely curious what exactly people are judging me on.

That seems mathematically impossible. And it still comes across as a defensive.
But I will be the first to confess that I feel like disagreeing a lot of the time as well, when someone called me one of the best players.
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5tarscream posted...

Oh and to follow up my earlier comment about Lea and SBell fighting it out the loser gets my vote on them. SBell where you at? You know if you do nothing you lose right?

Maybe the only way to win is to not play at all.
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I like Ulti, he seems really relaxed and earnest. Could be fake but nothing he has done has been legit worrying.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

RogueNoble posted...

Ulti in the sign up topic you literally said "expand, we haven't had an SK in so long" which is literally the same thought Pez had, in a very literal way

Did you ever respond to this, or my other response asking if you'd responded to this?

I dont think I responded actually.

Rooting for something in the signup topic has literally nothing to do with the main game itself.

It's not super game relevant, but at the same time we were basically all thinking it. I don't think it's a huge sin for Pez to just idly say it outloud. It's not like he's hunting the SK instead of scum, just literally mentioning it could exist.

As an aside, if I were Han I would not put in an SK to spite us all.

And as someone who never played with you before, I have a fresh eye on your actions. They dont seem like town actions: too inconsistent, too lazy, too unoriginal.
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Also don't like red13n continuing to focus on the Serial Killer thing when Vic has posted a ton of content since then. Seems lazy. Ulti doing it is a bit more forgivable but isn't red13n supposed to be good at this game. That's what the propaganda always tells me though I'm not sure I've ever seen it.
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That would explain my undefeated MMA record