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brestugo 06/22/19 1:28:42 AM #1:	https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-dogmeat-festival/home-of-chinas-dog-meat-festival-defiant-amid-outcry-idUSKBN1JH0VN Residents of Chinas southern city of Yulin defended eating dog meat to celebrate the summer solstice on Thursday, as animal rights activists seek new ways to pressure organizers to cancel the annual festival. The ten-day event, dubbed the lychee and dog meat festival by residents, has become a lightning rod for dog lovers, who every year confront those who buy, sell and eat canines. In recent years, animal rights activists have raided slaughterhouses and intercepted truckloads of dogs in efforts to limit the number of animals killed. Activists say the dog meat trade is inhumane and unhygienic, pointing to videos of dogs caught with wire lassos, transported in tiny cages and slaughtered with metal rods. Festival-goers remain defiant. Yulins so-called lychee and dog meat festival is just a popular custom of ours. Popular customs themselves cannot be right or wrong, Yulin resident Wang Yue told Reuters. Dog meat is a traditional food in some areas of southern China, where it is believed to be good for the body in warm weather. However, animal protection group Humane Society International said in a statement the festival was manufactured by the dog meat traders and that dog meat was not part of mainstream food culture in China. The event is not sanctioned by Yulin authorities, but police told Reuters their efforts to maintain stability had reduced the number of foreign and domestic activists in the city this year. --- It's not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, it's the size of the fight in the dog. <cite>brestugo posted [p:923673102] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-dogmeat-festival/home-of-chinas-dog-meat-festival-defiant-amid-outcry-idUSKBN1JH0VN Residents of Chinas southern city of Yulin defended eating dog meat to celebrate the summer solstice on Thursday, as animal rights activists seek new ways to pressure organizers to cancel the annual festival. The ten-day event, dubbed the lychee and dog meat festival by residents, has become a lightning rod for dog lovers, who every year confront those who buy, sell and eat canines. In recent years, animal rights activists have raided slaughterhouses and intercepted truckloads of dogs in efforts to limit the number of animals killed. Activists say the dog meat trade is inhumane and unhygienic, pointing to videos of dogs caught with wire lassos, transported in tiny cages and slaughtered with metal rods. Festival-goers remain defiant. Yulins so-called lychee and dog meat festival is just a popular custom of ours. Popular customs themselves cannot be right or wrong, Yulin resident Wang Yue told Reuters. Dog meat is a traditional food in some areas of southern China, where it is believed to be good for the body in warm weather. However, animal protection group Humane Society International said in a statement the festival was manufactured by the dog meat traders and that dog meat was not part of mainstream food culture in China. The event is not sanctioned by Yulin authorities, but police told Reuters their efforts to maintain stability had reduced the number of foreign and domestic activists in the city this year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 06/22/19 1:32:46 AM #2:	I won't post it but there's a video of a dog being blowtorched alive. I wish I didn't see it. --- It's not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, it's the size of the fight in the dog. <cite>brestugo posted [p:923673200] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>I won't post it but there's a video of a dog being blowtorched alive. I wish I didn't see it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 06/22/19 1:37:11 AM #3:	Jesus Christ at post 2 --- Cubs, Rockies, Patriots. <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:923673316] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>Jesus Christ at post 2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 06/22/19 1:37:54 AM #4:	brestugo posted... I won't post it but there's a video of a dog being blowtorched alive. I wish I didn't see it. :/ --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:923673332] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>brestugo posted...</cite> <quote>I won't post it but there's a video of a dog being blowtorched alive. I wish I didn't see it.</quote> :/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 06/22/19 1:49:00 AM #5:	one man's pet is another man's dinner --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:923673599] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>one man's pet is another man's dinner</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Perascamin 06/22/19 1:52:05 AM #6:	What can you really do to stop it? --- I've grown. <cite>Perascamin posted [p:923673682] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>What can you really do to stop it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarrieChan 06/22/19 1:52:33 AM #7:	Ah fresh meat.... <cite>CarrieChan posted [p:923673693] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>Ah fresh meat....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hicks233 06/22/19 2:00:35 AM #9:	spudger posted... one man's pet is another man's dinner But muh feeeeeelings. --- http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/index.php?boardid=9458 So says Mr. Stewart. <cite>Hicks233 posted [p:923673874] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote>one man's pet is another man's dinner</quote> But muh feeeeeelings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MuayThai85 06/22/19 2:13:17 AM #10:	I would never eat a dog but I understand some cultures will eat them. I however have a huge problem with causing the animal unneeded pain and suffering before death regardless of the species. Southern Chinese eat pretty much everything (some of the grossest food I've ever seen). --- How can one person post so much stupid s***? <cite>MuayThai85 posted [p:923674152] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>I would never eat a dog but I understand some cultures will eat them. I however have a huge problem with causing the animal unneeded pain and suffering before death regardless of the species. Southern Chinese eat pretty much everything (some of the grossest food I've ever seen).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 06/22/19 2:15:52 AM #11:	Just remember if you are not a vegetarian but you oppose eating dog you have no ground to stand on You can object to cruelty against living animals but not the simple act of eating dog meat --- https://i.imgtc.com/e2dtpfR.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/oVB3sDe.jpg <cite>Doe posted [p:923674202] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>Just remember if you are not a vegetarian but you oppose eating dog you have no ground to stand on You can object to cruelty against living animals but not the simple act of eating dog meat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saspa 06/22/19 2:16:44 AM #12:	Seriously isn't dog meat considered poisonous to humans though? How are all these people eating it and not getting sick. --- https://imgur.com/0UFI0T9 <cite>saspa posted [p:923674224] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>Seriously isn't dog meat considered poisonous to humans though? How are all these people eating it and not getting sick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blitz4532 06/22/19 2:19:08 AM #13:	saspa posted... Seriously isn't dog meat considered poisonous to humans though? How are all these people eating it and not getting sick. Dog liver IIRC has lethal amounts of vitamin A, the rest of it I think is safe for human consumption if you found yourself in a bad situation. --- I was the Stig "Or I could just, you know, drive the f***ing car." - TUSMEnterprises <cite>Blitz4532 posted [p:923674271] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>saspa posted...</cite> <quote>Seriously isn't dog meat considered poisonous to humans though? How are all these people eating it and not getting sick.</quote> Dog liver IIRC has lethal amounts of vitamin A, the rest of it I think is safe for human consumption if you found yourself in a bad situation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NOM 06/22/19 2:24:01 AM #14:	I cant imagine dog meat tastes good or has a good texture. Or maybe it tastes like chicken? I doubt Id try it, not because MUH HUMAN COMPANIONS or anything like that, just because it seems so... out there to me. But whatever if you want to eat dog who am I to stop you? --- I dream broken dreams I make them come true <cite>NOM posted [p:923674383] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>I cant imagine dog meat tastes good or has a good texture. Or maybe it tastes like chicken? I doubt Id try it, not because MUH HUMAN COMPANIONS or anything like that, just because it seems so... out there to me. But whatever if you want to eat dog who am I to stop you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saspa 06/22/19 2:26:15 AM #15:	I don't know what the term is but it's meat that's from carnivores that typically causes diseases to humans like eating lion meat or carrion etc. EDIT: Bushmeat. Apparently bushmeat is theorized to be responsible for the start of how std type diseases came to be, and AIDS etc --- https://imgur.com/0UFI0T9 <cite>saspa posted [p:923674428] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>I don't know what the term is but it's meat that's from carnivores that typically causes diseases to humans like eating lion meat or carrion etc. EDIT: Bushmeat. Apparently bushmeat is theorized to be responsible for the start of how std type diseases came to be, and AIDS etc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YokoGeri 06/22/19 3:20:45 PM #16:	I was looking for a video to post here, but I realized I'd get moderated for posting it, so let me describe it: A bunch of dogs are locked up in a cage. They're medium sized, like a corgi, but taller, of all colors and shapes, some a little bigger, some were clearly beloved pets, they have collars. A man with a steel pipe is walking around, with a "this is so much fun!" attitude, in a psychotic way. He approaches the most trusting dog, who is just hanging out and then beats the living shit out of it. The dog yelps loudly after the first strike, and the man stops, let him yelp and scream in pain for a little bit, prolonging his suffering, then goes to town on him, he is enjoying it so much. The rest of the dogs freak out. They run around the cage, trying to escape from the man. A dog hides behind a small wooden plank. The man walks to then, acting as if he were that Walking Dead character with the barbed baseball bat. He is playing a game: He is trying to catch the dogs mid-run with a swing from his pipe and send them flying. The dogs that get struck yelp loudly, some end belly up, and then the guy walks slowly to them and then beats the fuck out of them, sometimes it takes 4 or 5 full force strikes to shut them up completely. The last dog in the cage used to run to evade the guy. By the end he lay there, cowered in fear, without running, he gave up. He lays there, shaking, waiting for the final strike, his tail between his legs. You know what almost made me cry? NONE OF THESE DOGS TRIED TO DEFEND THEMSELVES! NONE OF THESE DOGS EVEN GROWLED OR TRIED TO GIVE A "WARNING BITE". NO DOG SHOWED ANY SIGN OF AGGRESSION, EVEN TO SAVE THEIR LIVES. These are the purest, noblest, most harmless souls out there. And these men tortured them to death. Then another part of the video has a living dog belly up while another barbarian slits its throat alive. First it's yelping, then it's a weird sound, like if the dog is trying to yelp but it's getting muffled by the blood. Sorry to be so descriptive, but I wanted to convey what I saw in the video (it's in youtube, btw) and make my point. This is a cruel, barbaric practice that needs to end. <cite>YokoGeri posted [p:923693284] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>I was looking for a video to post here, but I realized I'd get moderated for posting it, so let me describe it: A bunch of dogs are locked up in a cage. They're medium sized, like a corgi, but taller, of all colors and shapes, some a little bigger, some were clearly beloved pets, they have collars. A man with a steel pipe is walking around, with a "this is so much fun!" attitude, in a psychotic way. He approaches the most trusting dog, who is just hanging out and then beats the living shit out of it. The dog yelps loudly after the first strike, and the man stops, let him yelp and scream in pain for a little bit, prolonging his suffering, then goes to town on him, he is enjoying it so much. The rest of the dogs freak out. They run around the cage, trying to escape from the man. A dog hides behind a small wooden plank. The man walks to then, acting as if he were that Walking Dead character with the barbed baseball bat. He is playing a game: He is trying to catch the dogs mid-run with a swing from his pipe and send them flying. The dogs that get struck yelp loudly, some end belly up, and then the guy walks slowly to them and then beats the fuck out of them, sometimes it takes 4 or 5 full force strikes to shut them up completely. The last dog in the cage used to run to evade the guy. By the end he lay there, cowered in fear, without running, he gave up. He lays there, shaking, waiting for the final strike, his tail between his legs. You know what almost made me cry? NONE OF THESE DOGS TRIED TO DEFEND THEMSELVES! NONE OF THESE DOGS EVEN GROWLED OR TRIED TO GIVE A "WARNING BITE". NO DOG SHOWED ANY SIGN OF AGGRESSION, EVEN TO SAVE THEIR LIVES. These are the purest, noblest, most harmless souls out there. And these men tortured them to death. Then another part of the video has a living dog belly up while another barbarian slits its throat alive. First it's yelping, then it's a weird sound, like if the dog is trying to yelp but it's getting muffled by the blood. Sorry to be so descriptive, but I wanted to convey what I saw in the video (it's in youtube, btw) and make my point. This is a cruel, barbaric practice that needs to end.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YokoGeri 06/22/19 3:22:11 PM #17:	YokoGeri posted... Post. How can I help ending this "festival"? There must be a way to contribute to that cause without being in danger? <cite>YokoGeri posted [p:923693358] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote>Post.</quote> How can I help ending this "festival"? There must be a way to contribute to that cause without being in danger?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 06/22/19 3:31:45 PM #18:	YokoGeri posted... You know what almost made me cry? NONE OF THESE DOGS TRIED TO DEFEND THEMSELVES! NONE OF THESE DOGS EVEN GROWLED OR TRIED TO GIVE A "WARNING BITE". NO DOG SHOWED ANY SIGN OF AGGRESSION, EVEN TO SAVE THEIR LIVES. These are the purest, noblest, most harmless souls out there. And these men tortured them to death. Canines live in social hierarchies and that submissive behavior against a threat is really common behavior to see from them. If you read about the history of wolf extermination in the United States you get stories that all read just like the video you describe. --- https://i.imgtc.com/e2dtpfR.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/oVB3sDe.jpg <cite>Doe posted [p:923693743] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote>You know what almost made me cry? NONE OF THESE DOGS TRIED TO DEFEND THEMSELVES! NONE OF THESE DOGS EVEN GROWLED OR TRIED TO GIVE A "WARNING BITE". NO DOG SHOWED ANY SIGN OF AGGRESSION, EVEN TO SAVE THEIR LIVES. These are the purest, noblest, most harmless souls out there. And these men tortured them to death. </quote> Canines live in social hierarchies and that submissive behavior against a threat is really common behavior to see from them. If you read about the history of wolf extermination in the United States you get stories that all read just like the video you describe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YokoGeri 06/22/19 3:34:45 PM #19:	Doe posted... YokoGeri posted... You know what almost made me cry? NONE OF THESE DOGS TRIED TO DEFEND THEMSELVES! NONE OF THESE DOGS EVEN GROWLED OR TRIED TO GIVE A "WARNING BITE". NO DOG SHOWED ANY SIGN OF AGGRESSION, EVEN TO SAVE THEIR LIVES. These are the purest, noblest, most harmless souls out there. And these men tortured them to death. Canines live in social hierarchies and that submissive behavior against a threat is really common behavior to see from them. If you read about the history of wolf extermination in the United States you get stories that all read just like the video you describe. if there were 2 wolves in that cage instead of 10 dogs that barbarian would have ended like wolf food instead, but I do get your point. <cite>YokoGeri posted [p:923693861] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote>You know what almost made me cry? NONE OF THESE DOGS TRIED TO DEFEND THEMSELVES! NONE OF THESE DOGS EVEN GROWLED OR TRIED TO GIVE A "WARNING BITE". NO DOG SHOWED ANY SIGN OF AGGRESSION, EVEN TO SAVE THEIR LIVES. These are the purest, noblest, most harmless souls out there. And these men tortured them to death. </quote> Canines live in social hierarchies and that submissive behavior against a threat is really common behavior to see from them. If you read about the history of wolf extermination in the United States you get stories that all read just like the video you describe.</quote> if there were 2 wolves in that cage instead of 10 dogs that barbarian would have ended like wolf food instead, but I do get your point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 06/22/19 3:35:48 PM #20:	@YokoGeri Humane Society International seems to be leading the effort to stop the festival https://www.hsi.org/issues/dog-meat-trade/ https://people.com/pets/how-to-stop-yulin-dog-meat-festival/ --- It's not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, it's the size of the fight in the dog. <cite>brestugo posted [p:923693907] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>@YokoGeri Humane Society International seems to be leading the effort to stop the festival https://www.hsi.org/issues/dog-meat-trade/ https://people.com/pets/how-to-stop-yulin-dog-meat-festival/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 06/22/19 3:40:44 PM #21:	spudger posted... one man's pet is another man's dinner people keep chickens and pigs as pets but that doesn't stop us from eating them by the truckload :/ --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:923694117] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote>one man's pet is another man's dinner</quote> people keep chickens and pigs as pets but that doesn't stop us from eating them by the truckload :/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 06/22/19 3:41:01 PM #22:	YokoGeri posted... if there were 2 wolves in that cage instead of 10 dogs that barbarian would have ended like wolf food instead, but I do get your point. I don't think you know what you're talking about. I'm not sure if you're overestimating the tenacity and ferocity of wolves or inventing a noble pacifism in dogs. Wolves cornered in pit traps or their own dens do not become ultra-efficient human shredders. Hunters just picked them up with no resistance and took them to their grizzly fate if they didn't do the job there. --- https://i.imgtc.com/e2dtpfR.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/oVB3sDe.jpg <cite>Doe posted [p:923694132] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote>if there were 2 wolves in that cage instead of 10 dogs that barbarian would have ended like wolf food instead, but I do get your point.</quote> I don't think you know what you're talking about. I'm not sure if you're overestimating the tenacity and ferocity of wolves or inventing a noble pacifism in dogs. Wolves cornered in pit traps or their own dens do not become ultra-efficient human shredders. Hunters just picked them up with no resistance and took them to their grizzly fate if they didn't do the job there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666 06/22/19 3:41:43 PM #23:	They have the best ribs --- 3DS: 1848-2391-0198 "May the Father of Understanding guide us" <cite>Lordgold666 posted [p:923694166] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>They have the best ribs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YokoGeri 06/22/19 3:43:24 PM #24:	brestugo posted... @YokoGeri Humane Society International seems to be leading the effort to stop the festival https://www.hsi.org/issues/dog-meat-trade/ https://people.com/pets/how-to-stop-yulin-dog-meat-festival/ Thanks so much :) <cite>YokoGeri posted [p:923694221] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>brestugo posted...</cite> <quote>@YokoGeri Humane Society International seems to be leading the effort to stop the festival https://www.hsi.org/issues/dog-meat-trade/ https://people.com/pets/how-to-stop-yulin-dog-meat-festival/</quote> Thanks so much :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 06/22/19 3:43:43 PM #25:	brestugo posted... I won't post it but there's a video of a dog being blowtorched alive. I wish I didn't see it. Considering China harvests the organs of political dissidents, i dont have to see it to believe it --- "Everyone attack." - The man in the back <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:923694235] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>brestugo posted...</cite> <quote>I won't post it but there's a video of a dog being blowtorched alive. I wish I didn't see it.</quote> Considering China harvests the organs of political dissidents, i dont have to see it to believe it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman 06/22/19 3:45:15 PM #26:	Dog farms for meat are a thing in South Korea. Both cat and dog are readily available in restaurants in Vietnam. --- Raised on VHS, anchored to DVD <cite>masticatingman posted [p:923694293] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>Dog farms for meat are a thing in South Korea. Both cat and dog are readily available in restaurants in Vietnam.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YokoGeri 06/22/19 3:46:03 PM #27:	Doe posted... YokoGeri posted... if there were 2 wolves in that cage instead of 10 dogs that barbarian would have ended like wolf food instead, but I do get your point. I don't think you know what you're talking about. I'm not sure if you're overestimating the tenacity and ferocity of wolves or inventing a noble pacifism in dogs. Wolves cornered in pit traps or their own dens do not become ultra-efficient human shredders. Hunters just picked them up with no resistance and took them to their grizzly fate if they didn't do the job there. Ok, maybe I am not describing the scenario well: 1) There is a cage 2) There are like, 7 dogs there 3) there is a single man with a metal pipe, laying hell on these grown dogs Men are extremely frail and weak. A single otter killed a man (I saw a video). I have seen videos of a domestic cat fucking a person up. 10 dogs at least have a fighting chance. But the point is, a single man locked in a cage with 2 wolves would get murdered, pipe or not. <cite>YokoGeri posted [p:923694330] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote>if there were 2 wolves in that cage instead of 10 dogs that barbarian would have ended like wolf food instead, but I do get your point.</quote> I don't think you know what you're talking about. I'm not sure if you're overestimating the tenacity and ferocity of wolves or inventing a noble pacifism in dogs. Wolves cornered in pit traps or their own dens do not become ultra-efficient human shredders. Hunters just picked them up with no resistance and took them to their grizzly fate if they didn't do the job there.</quote> Ok, maybe I am not describing the scenario well: 1) There is a cage 2) There are like, 7 dogs there 3) there is a single man with a metal pipe, laying hell on these grown dogs Men are extremely frail and weak. A single otter killed a man (I saw a video). I have seen videos of a domestic cat fucking a person up. 10 dogs at least have a fighting chance. But the point is, a single man locked in a cage with 2 wolves would get murdered, pipe or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Bass 06/22/19 3:52:52 PM #28:	brestugo posted... Yulins so-called lychee and dog meat festival is just a popular custom of ours. Popular customs themselves cannot be right or wrong, Yulin resident Wang Yue told Reuters. Of course they can be wrong. If it was a popular custom to kill people that doesn't make it morally right. That was a poorly thought out idea by that resident. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Master_Bass posted [p:923694608] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>brestugo posted...</cite> <quote>Yulins so-called lychee and dog meat festival is just a popular custom of ours. Popular customs themselves cannot be right or wrong, Yulin resident Wang Yue told Reuters.</quote> Of course they can be wrong. If it was a popular custom to kill people that doesn't make it morally right. That was a poorly thought out idea by that resident.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 06/22/19 3:55:09 PM #29:	Still not as bad as factory farming tbh --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:923694700] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>Still not as bad as factory farming tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spudger 06/22/19 3:57:50 PM #31:	HylianFox posted... spudger posted... one man's pet is another man's dinner people keep chickens and pigs as pets but that doesn't stop us from eating them by the truckload :/ thats my point --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:923694803] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>HylianFox posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spudger posted...</cite> <quote>one man's pet is another man's dinner</quote> people keep chickens and pigs as pets but that doesn't stop us from eating them by the truckload :/</quote> thats my point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 06/22/19 3:57:57 PM #32:	Dogs aren't food --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:923694816] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>Dogs aren't food</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 06/22/19 3:58:21 PM #33:	YokoGeri posted... Men are extremely frail and weak. A single otter killed a man (I saw a video). I have seen videos of a domestic cat fucking a person up. 10 dogs at least have a fighting chance. But the point is, a single man locked in a cage with 2 wolves would get murdered, pipe or not. You know there are millions more instances in history of a human annihilating a peak domestic cat than the other way around, right? Humans aren't extremely weak and frail, they're an apex predator. And a guy experienced with killing unleashed animals is not equivalent to someone that lets themselves get owned by a cat. Do you know how wolves fight? They don't jump at a cow's side and devour a hole into their guts. They're actually really lame. They chase after a moose and bite them in the ass to hinder their movement. Then if possible they just latch on and hang out as the prey runs until enough bleeding and running has exhausted them. This is an effective strategy because they're pack hunters that can literally dogpile the prey with multiple latchers. Despite human use of the term, lone wolves have a really hard time and tend to be looking for a pack to join. Generally speaking wolves are scared of humans and will run away or submit. The number of actual instances of a wolf pack eating or so much as attacking someone, even a child, hovers close to zero. Historically, a wolf pair does not test its luck against a big bipedal human with a huge blunt weapon. Rather it is instinctual to them to communicate submission, since they have social language and basically no exposure to animals that predate on them. Odds are very high they will let the guy do what he will to them in the misguided hope it will satisfy him and get them away. You might like to read Vicious: Wolves and Men in America. Well actually it's perhaps a grim read, but very informative. --- https://i.imgtc.com/e2dtpfR.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/oVB3sDe.jpg <cite>Doe posted [p:923694831] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote>Men are extremely frail and weak. A single otter killed a man (I saw a video). I have seen videos of a domestic cat fucking a person up. 10 dogs at least have a fighting chance. But the point is, a single man locked in a cage with 2 wolves would get murdered, pipe or not.</quote> You know there are millions more instances in history of a human annihilating a peak domestic cat than the other way around, right? Humans aren't extremely weak and frail, they're an apex predator. And a guy experienced with killing unleashed animals is not equivalent to someone that lets themselves get owned by a cat. Do you know how wolves fight? They don't jump at a cow's side and devour a hole into their guts. They're actually really lame. They chase after a moose and bite them in the ass to hinder their movement. Then if possible they just latch on and hang out as the prey runs until enough bleeding and running has exhausted them. This is an effective strategy because they're pack hunters that can literally dogpile the prey with multiple latchers. Despite human use of the term, lone wolves have a really hard time and tend to be looking for a pack to join. Generally speaking wolves are scared of humans and will run away or submit. The number of actual instances of a wolf pack eating or so much as attacking someone, even a child, hovers close to zero. Historically, a wolf pair does not test its luck against a big bipedal human with a huge blunt weapon. Rather it is instinctual to them to communicate submission, since they have social language and basically no exposure to animals that predate on them. Odds are very high they will let the guy do what he will to them in the misguided hope it will satisfy him and get them away. You might like to read Vicious: Wolves and Men in America. Well actually it's perhaps a grim read, but very informative.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 06/22/19 3:58:33 PM #34:	Master_Bass posted... brestugo posted... Yulins so-called lychee and dog meat festival is just a popular custom of ours. Popular customs themselves cannot be right or wrong, Yulin resident Wang Yue told Reuters. Of course they can be wrong. If it was a popular custom to kill people that doesn't make it morally right. That was a poorly thought out idea by that resident. Female genital mutilation is a popular custom, and so was lynching once. Yeah that guy is using the "ad populum" fallacy - "it's popular so it must be ok/good". --- It's not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, it's the size of the fight in the dog. <cite>brestugo posted [p:923694838] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Master_Bass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>brestugo posted...</cite> <quote>Yulins so-called lychee and dog meat festival is just a popular custom of ours. Popular customs themselves cannot be right or wrong, Yulin resident Wang Yue told Reuters.</quote> Of course they can be wrong. If it was a popular custom to kill people that doesn't make it morally right. That was a poorly thought out idea by that resident.</quote> Female genital mutilation is a popular custom, and so was lynching once. Yeah that guy is using the "ad populum" fallacy - "it's popular so it must be ok/good".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YokoGeri 06/22/19 4:19:23 PM #35:	Smashingpmkns posted... Still not as bad as factory farming tbh then make your own fucking topic about it and eat lettuce, stop the whataboutism. <cite>YokoGeri posted [p:923695662] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>Still not as bad as factory farming tbh</quote> then make your own fucking topic about it and eat lettuce, stop the whataboutism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YokoGeri 06/22/19 4:22:18 PM #36:	Doe posted... YokoGeri posted... Men are extremely frail and weak. A single otter killed a man (I saw a video). I have seen videos of a domestic cat fucking a person up. 10 dogs at least have a fighting chance. But the point is, a single man locked in a cage with 2 wolves would get murdered, pipe or not. You know there are millions more instances in history of a human annihilating a peak domestic cat than the other way around, right? Humans aren't extremely weak and frail, they're an apex predator. And a guy experienced with killing unleashed animals is not equivalent to someone that lets themselves get owned by a cat. Do you know how wolves fight? They don't jump at a cow's side and devour a hole into their guts. They're actually really lame. They chase after a moose and bite them in the ass to hinder their movement. Then if possible they just latch on and hang out as the prey runs until enough bleeding and running has exhausted them. This is an effective strategy because they're pack hunters that can literally dogpile the prey with multiple latchers. Despite human use of the term, lone wolves have a really hard time and tend to be looking for a pack to join. Generally speaking wolves are scared of humans and will run away or submit. The number of actual instances of a wolf pack eating or so much as attacking someone, even a child, hovers close to zero. Historically, a wolf pair does not test its luck against a big bipedal human with a huge blunt weapon. Rather it is instinctual to them to communicate submission, since they have social language and basically no exposure to animals that predate on them. Odds are very high they will let the guy do what he will to them in the misguided hope it will satisfy him and get them away. You might like to read Vicious: Wolves and Men in America. Well actually it's perhaps a grim read, but very informative. Thanks for the book recommendation, I will make sure to look for it. I appreciate informative posts like this. On your wolf scenario, I agree. But cornered animals are part of a saying ("like a cornered animal") for a reason. If a wolf has no last resource he will fight for its life. As for humans being apex predators... we are, because of our intelligence, which allowed us to organize and develop technology and weapons. But an unarmed man is a joke of an organism. <cite>YokoGeri posted [p:923695768] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote>Men are extremely frail and weak. A single otter killed a man (I saw a video). I have seen videos of a domestic cat fucking a person up. 10 dogs at least have a fighting chance. But the point is, a single man locked in a cage with 2 wolves would get murdered, pipe or not.</quote> You know there are millions more instances in history of a human annihilating a peak domestic cat than the other way around, right? Humans aren't extremely weak and frail, they're an apex predator. And a guy experienced with killing unleashed animals is not equivalent to someone that lets themselves get owned by a cat. Do you know how wolves fight? They don't jump at a cow's side and devour a hole into their guts. They're actually really lame. They chase after a moose and bite them in the ass to hinder their movement. Then if possible they just latch on and hang out as the prey runs until enough bleeding and running has exhausted them. This is an effective strategy because they're pack hunters that can literally dogpile the prey with multiple latchers. Despite human use of the term, lone wolves have a really hard time and tend to be looking for a pack to join. Generally speaking wolves are scared of humans and will run away or submit. The number of actual instances of a wolf pack eating or so much as attacking someone, even a child, hovers close to zero. Historically, a wolf pair does not test its luck against a big bipedal human with a huge blunt weapon. Rather it is instinctual to them to communicate submission, since they have social language and basically no exposure to animals that predate on them. Odds are very high they will let the guy do what he will to them in the misguided hope it will satisfy him and get them away. You might like to read Vicious: Wolves and Men in America. Well actually it's perhaps a grim read, but very informative.</quote> Thanks for the book recommendation, I will make sure to look for it. I appreciate informative posts like this. On your wolf scenario, I agree. But cornered animals are part of a saying ("like a cornered animal") for a reason. If a wolf has no last resource he will fight for its life. As for humans being apex predators... we are, because of our intelligence, which allowed us to organize and develop technology and weapons. But an unarmed man is a joke of an organism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 06/22/19 4:25:30 PM #37:	YokoGeri posted... Smashingpmkns posted... Still not as bad as factory farming tbh then make your own fucking topic about it and eat lettuce, stop the whataboutism. No need to get upset bby, just pointing out that we're no better. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:923695872] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote> Still not as bad as factory farming tbh</quote> then make your own fucking topic about it and eat lettuce, stop the whataboutism.</quote> No need to get upset bby, just pointing out that we're no better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YokoGeri 06/22/19 4:29:01 PM #38:	Smashingpmkns posted... YokoGeri posted... Smashingpmkns posted... Still not as bad as factory farming tbh then make your own fucking topic about it and eat lettuce, stop the whataboutism. No need to get upset bby, just pointing out that we're no better. welp, that settles it, give me a double dog cheeseburger with puppy bacon to go, plz! <cite>YokoGeri posted [p:923695995] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YokoGeri posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote> Still not as bad as factory farming tbh</quote> then make your own fucking topic about it and eat lettuce, stop the whataboutism.</quote> No need to get upset bby, just pointing out that we're no better.</quote> welp, that settles it, give me a double dog cheeseburger with puppy bacon to go, plz!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGreatGeno326 06/22/19 4:29:28 PM #39:	What breed of dog do they eat? --- Formerly Known as Genocet_10-325 Conservatism is a plague on society. <cite>TheGreatGeno326 posted [p:923696007] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>What breed of dog do they eat?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YokoGeri 06/22/19 4:30:12 PM #40:	TheGreatGeno326 posted... What breed of dog do they eat? all dogs. Some are strays, some have dog collars. I saw a labrador in the video too. <cite>YokoGeri posted [p:923696026] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGreatGeno326 posted...</cite> <quote>What breed of dog do they eat?</quote> all dogs. Some are strays, some have dog collars. I saw a labrador in the video too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 06/22/19 4:30:33 PM #41:	TheGreatGeno326 posted... What breed of dog do they eat? Any one they can find, apparently. --- It's not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, it's the size of the fight in the dog. <cite>brestugo posted [p:923696037] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGreatGeno326 posted...</cite> <quote>What breed of dog do they eat?</quote> Any one they can find, apparently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YokoGeri 06/22/19 4:31:17 PM #42:	brestugo posted... TheGreatGeno326 posted... What breed of dog do they eat? Any one they can find, apparently. they literally steal home pets to do i too <cite>YokoGeri posted [p:923696069] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>brestugo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheGreatGeno326 posted...</cite> <quote>What breed of dog do they eat?</quote> Any one they can find, apparently.</quote> they literally steal home pets to do i too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
myzz7 06/22/19 4:31:19 PM #43:	But all cultures are beautiful guys!!!! --- ''If I knew how to dox people, and you lived close to me, I would beat you with a bat.'' Bad_Mojo 8/24/2018 <cite>myzz7 posted [p:923696070] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>But all cultures are beautiful guys!!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 06/22/19 4:33:50 PM #44:	Master_Bass posted... brestugo posted... Yulins so-called lychee and dog meat festival is just a popular custom of ours. Popular customs themselves cannot be right or wrong, Yulin resident Wang Yue told Reuters. Of course they can be wrong. If it was a popular custom to kill people that doesn't make it morally right. That was a poorly thought out idea by that resident. ive read the festival is too new to be considered a cultural event and most of the dogs they eat there are stolen pets oh the ones trying to rescue those pets and stop the festival are chinesse .....people on CE told me before they werent --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:923696146] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Master_Bass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>brestugo posted...</cite> <quote>Yulins so-called lychee and dog meat festival is just a popular custom of ours. Popular customs themselves cannot be right or wrong, Yulin resident Wang Yue told Reuters.</quote> Of course they can be wrong. If it was a popular custom to kill people that doesn't make it morally right. That was a poorly thought out idea by that resident.</quote> ive read the festival is too new to be considered a cultural event and most of the dogs they eat there are stolen pets oh the ones trying to rescue those pets and stop the festival are chinesse .....people on CE told me before they werent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 06/22/19 5:19:42 PM #45:	marc55 posted... Master_Bass posted... brestugo posted... Yulins so-called lychee and dog meat festival is just a popular custom of ours. Popular customs themselves cannot be right or wrong, Yulin resident Wang Yue told Reuters. Of course they can be wrong. If it was a popular custom to kill people that doesn't make it morally right. That was a poorly thought out idea by that resident. ive read the festival is too new to be considered a cultural event and most of the dogs they eat there are stolen pets oh the ones trying to rescue those pets and stop the festival are chinesse .....people on CE told me before they werent Yeah from what I gather the event is only around 20 years old. An international organization, Humane Society International is one of the groups trying to shut down the "festival" but the activists that are doing the actual work in China are Chinese. --- It's not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, it's the size of the fight in the dog. <cite>brestugo posted [p:923697864] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Master_Bass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>brestugo posted...</cite> <quote>Yulins so-called lychee and dog meat festival is just a popular custom of ours. Popular customs themselves cannot be right or wrong, Yulin resident Wang Yue told Reuters.</quote> Of course they can be wrong. If it was a popular custom to kill people that doesn't make it morally right. That was a poorly thought out idea by that resident.</quote> ive read the festival is too new to be considered a cultural event and most of the dogs they eat there are stolen pets oh the ones trying to rescue those pets and stop the festival are chinesse .....people on CE told me before they werent</quote> Yeah from what I gather the event is only around 20 years old. An international organization, Humane Society International is one of the groups trying to shut down the "festival" but the activists that are doing the actual work in China are Chinese.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 06/22/19 6:18:37 PM #46:	brestugo posted... marc55 posted... Master_Bass posted... brestugo posted... Yulins so-called lychee and dog meat festival is just a popular custom of ours. Popular customs themselves cannot be right or wrong, Yulin resident Wang Yue told Reuters. Of course they can be wrong. If it was a popular custom to kill people that doesn't make it morally right. That was a poorly thought out idea by that resident. ive read the festival is too new to be considered a cultural event and most of the dogs they eat there are stolen pets oh the ones trying to rescue those pets and stop the festival are chinesse .....people on CE told me before they werent Yeah from what I gather the event is only around 20 years old. An international organization, Humane Society International is one of the groups trying to shut down the "festival" but the activists that are doing the actual work in China are Chinese. dont know if accurate but seems over 80% of the dogs they sell to eat are stolen and they ve been fighting for animal cruelty laws too they are tortured like in the video that guy described because they claim it makes them taste better >_< --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:923700061] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>brestugo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Master_Bass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>brestugo posted...</cite> <quote>Yulins so-called lychee and dog meat festival is just a popular custom of ours. Popular customs themselves cannot be right or wrong, Yulin resident Wang Yue told Reuters.</quote> Of course they can be wrong. If it was a popular custom to kill people that doesn't make it morally right. That was a poorly thought out idea by that resident.</quote> ive read the festival is too new to be considered a cultural event and most of the dogs they eat there are stolen pets oh the ones trying to rescue those pets and stop the festival are chinesse .....people on CE told me before they werent</quote> Yeah from what I gather the event is only around 20 years old. An international organization, Humane Society International is one of the groups trying to shut down the "festival" but the activists that are doing the actual work in China are Chinese.</quote> dont know if accurate but seems over 80% of the dogs they sell to eat are stolen and they ve been fighting for animal cruelty laws too they are tortured like in the video that guy described because they claim it makes them taste better >_<</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 06/22/19 6:33:22 PM #47:	marc55 posted... brestugo posted... marc55 posted... Master_Bass posted... brestugo posted... Yulins so-called lychee and dog meat festival is just a popular custom of ours. Popular customs themselves cannot be right or wrong, Yulin resident Wang Yue told Reuters. Of course they can be wrong. If it was a popular custom to kill people that doesn't make it morally right. That was a poorly thought out idea by that resident. ive read the festival is too new to be considered a cultural event and most of the dogs they eat there are stolen pets oh the ones trying to rescue those pets and stop the festival are chinesse .....people on CE told me before they werent Yeah from what I gather the event is only around 20 years old. An international organization, Humane Society International is one of the groups trying to shut down the "festival" but the activists that are doing the actual work in China are Chinese. dont know if accurate but seems over 80% of the dogs they sell to eat are stolen and they ve been fighting for animal cruelty laws too they are tortured like in the video that guy described because they claim it makes them taste better >_< Sweet Jesus. There do seem to be a lot of videos and reports of excessively cruel methods being used. --- It's not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, it's the size of the fight in the dog. <cite>brestugo posted [p:923700565] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>brestugo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Master_Bass posted...</cite> <quote><cite>brestugo posted...</cite> <quote>Yulins so-called lychee and dog meat festival is just a popular custom of ours. Popular customs themselves cannot be right or wrong, Yulin resident Wang Yue told Reuters.</quote> Of course they can be wrong. If it was a popular custom to kill people that doesn't make it morally right. That was a poorly thought out idea by that resident.</quote> ive read the festival is too new to be considered a cultural event and most of the dogs they eat there are stolen pets oh the ones trying to rescue those pets and stop the festival are chinesse .....people on CE told me before they werent</quote> Yeah from what I gather the event is only around 20 years old. An international organization, Humane Society International is one of the groups trying to shut down the "festival" but the activists that are doing the actual work in China are Chinese.</quote> dont know if accurate but seems over 80% of the dogs they sell to eat are stolen and they ve been fighting for animal cruelty laws too they are tortured like in the video that guy described because they claim it makes them taste better >_<</quote> Sweet Jesus. There do seem to be a lot of videos and reports of excessively cruel methods being used.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 06/22/19 6:38:46 PM #48:	If they're stealing fucking pets I'm pretty sure that would be considered a crime in most countries Too bad China isn't most countries so it'll go unanswered --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:923700768] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>If they're stealing fucking pets I'm pretty sure that would be considered a crime in most countries Too bad China isn't most countries so it'll go unanswered</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 06/23/19 5:02:51 PM #49:	AvantgardeAClue posted... If they're stealing fucking pets I'm pretty sure that would be considered a crime in most countries Too bad China isn't most countries so it'll go unanswered From what I gather the dog meat trade is almost entirely run by criminals in China. In Korea they farm them as a "legitimate" business. --- It's not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, it's the size of the fight in the dog. <cite>brestugo posted [p:923740160] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote><cite>AvantgardeAClue posted...</cite> <quote>If they're stealing fucking pets I'm pretty sure that would be considered a crime in most countries Too bad China isn't most countries so it'll go unanswered</quote> From what I gather the dog meat trade is almost entirely run by criminals in China. In Korea they farm them as a "legitimate" business.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r25 06/23/19 5:05:55 PM #50:	>Eats cow and pig >Gets upset that people eat dog <cite>r25 posted [p:923740262] in Yulin dog ... [t:77809782]...</cite> <quote>>Eats cow and pig >Gets upset that people eat dog</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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