Board 8 > How would they do in a contest? Day 28 ft Ken Masters, Misty, Elsa

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half_silver28
06/23/19 9:32:43 PM
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This is a topic to rate the contest strength of potential newcomers in the current contest environment.

I will pick the characters to rate and discuss for each day from user nominations - whoever the 3 most nominated characters are at that time. If there are more than 3 I will pick randomly. You can nominate any number of characters at any time, but you cannot nominate the same character twice.

All characters who were present in the 2018 Character Battle will NOT be eligible. Otherwise you can nominate any character that has appeared in video games; even comic book characters. This will exclude real-life athletes who have only appeared in long running sports series, however I will accept those who have their own games such as Shaq. I will accept nominations for iconic gaming duos too, if both members of said duo are named in the title of a game (Banjo-Kazooie, Sam & Max Hit the Road, etc).

Each day will have a separate topic, and nominations will carry over. As far as actually rating the character's contest strength; I ask that users rank a characters potential strength with one of the following qualifiers - Low Fodder, Mid Fodder, High Fodder, Fodder Line, Low Midcarder, Midcarder, High Midcarder, Near Elite, Elite, LAW Tier (capable of beating Link). I will average all the ratings given to a character to come up with their final ranking. I have included a highlighted entrant from Character Battle X on each tier of the strength rankings below, to provide a baseline for each.

Current Character Strength Rankings: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P1AIhHywBiLd6VAMZMNEGX-HW2td8u1D0Iw_tzHsORw/edit?usp=sharing

Nomination List: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-KnSBDzppzPK5Ug1zmx8_x0bG4tqFDMPPH2k8J3s8sk/edit?usp=sharing

Results from Day 27:

Cammy White (Street Fighter) is High Fodder
Tony Hawk (Tony Hawk's Pro Skater) is Mid Fodder
Pauline (Mario series) is Mid Fodder

Here is today's trio to rank:

Elsa (Kingdom Hearts III/Frozen)
Misty (Pokemon)
Ken Masters (Street Fighter)
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Underleveled
06/23/19 9:49:37 PM
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Ken - Fodder line. Not counting the overperformance of a lifetime against Samus in 2002 (the votals in that contest were WEIRD), Ken has been the definition of high fodder when he actually makes it into these things, despite having the status to do fairly well. Being playable in Smash may bump him up to the next tier.

Misty - Fodder line. She has a very small role in the games, and hasn't had anything more than occasional guest appearances in the anime in over 15 years. To the kids who haven't gone back and watched the older seasons of the anime, she means almost nothing. Plus, it should be obvious that the games carry more weight than the anime anyway. Still, for us older fans she comes with enough fond memories that I want to believe it conceivable that she could put up a decent fight against, say, Ike or Phoenix Wright.

Elsa - High fodder. From what I've heard regarding her appearance in KH3, she could get some decent support. Plus the kids will vote for her over anything but Sonic.
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ZenOfThunder
06/23/19 9:54:52 PM
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Elsa would be mid fodder, even though she's mega-recognizable I think most people on this site couldn't care less about Frozen and if anything people would rather abstain in matches involving her if not outright anti-voting her, especially after being forced to watch Let It Go meticulously recreated in KHIII

Misty would be a low midcarder based purely on nostalgia and pokepower. I'm going to also post something slightly more offbeat here, I once went to New York Comic Con with a friend who is very reserved and only like a 3 on the nerd scale. We passed by a Misty cosplayer and he whispered to me "do you ever see a hot girl dressed as Misty and it just awakens something... primal? like something buried from childhood?" I no longer see that friend in the same light but I imagine he's not the only one that feels that way

Ken Masters at this point would be fodder line I think. Remember how during the Grinch leak you had the must more credible Kencineroar leak alongside a very convincing screenshot of Ken doing a taunt that turned out to be true? People seemed more bummed about Ken than anything else. Not like negative or hate like Incineroar was getting at the time, just kind of like... disappointed. Like, people acknowledge his existence and they know who Ken is but there's only a small amount of people that give a shit about Ken. He'd probably be Mr. Reliable just like Ryu in contests if he got in more consistently
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half_silver28
06/24/19 6:49:46 PM
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Ken is Fodder Line, which I think was the same strength he had back in 2010. Smash probably doesn't boost him much due to Gfaqs largely not caring about his presence in the game.

Agree with Misty being a Low Midcarder for the same reasoning.

Elsa I think will get anti-voted due to KHIII and end up as Mid Fodder.

In honor of the 28th day of HWTDC, I will put forward some special nominations (read: the dumbest ones I have).

nominations:

Airman (Mega Man 2) I can't defeat him!
Bubsy (Bubsy series) What could possibly go wrong?
Richard Miller (Time Crisis) Don't come! It's a trap! Oh noooooo!
Mr. Resetti (Animal Crossing) If you're gonna quit, you gotta SAVE first! Use your head, punk!
Old Man (The Legend of Zelda) It's dangerous to go alone, take this!
Dachora (Super Metroid) Save the animals!
Miror B. (Pokemon Colosseum) I'll wipe you out with my elegant steps! Let the music play!
Palpatine (Star Wars) UNLIMITED POWERRRRRRRR!
Slenderman (Slender) He still wants his 20 dollars
The Master (Manos: The Hands of Fate) Arise, my wives! And hear the will of Manos.
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MetalmindStats
06/24/19 7:06:06 PM
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I agree with Zen and half_silver about all three.

Underleveled posted...
I want to believe it conceivable that she could put up a decent fight against, say, Ike or Phoenix Wright.

Both of them looked like Low Midcarders in CBX, unless you think there was zero SFF or other wonkiness along their entire path. Also, don't underestimate the "childhood crush" factor: Tifa, Zelda, and even Peach have never looked better, while Aerith defied the odds to retain respectable strength in CBX.

half_silver28 posted...
Ken is Fodder Line, which I think was the same strength he had back in 2010.

Ken looked pretty firmly like a Low Midcarder back then, but Street Fighter was at an arguable high point then thanks to (Super) Street Fighter IV, whereas Ryu looked terrible in CBX. Also, I really doubt KH3 is going to be, at the very least, the main source of Elsa's antivotes.
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LusterSoldier
06/24/19 7:55:23 PM
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Elsa - Mid fodder

She's probably not going to be at or above the fodder line due to KH3's reception among the fans, with the game being the lowest reviewed game out of the 3 main KH games. The site also doesn't seem to care about KH that much these days.

Misty - Fodder line

Human characters from Pokemon generally aren't worth much at all, with only Red and Blue having any notable level of strength. After those 2 characters, there's a drop off in strength for other characters. We've seen N in a contest (Gen 5 character) and he was pretty bad, but the Gen 1 factor should ensure that Misty is well above N in strength. The one knock against Misty is that she has very little role in the games, but you could say that about most of the other Pokemon game characters. The Pokemon mainline games aren't really played for the story by a lot of fans. What gives Misty a fighting chance to be above the fodder line is her anime appearances, and there's a lot of people who watched the Gen 1 anime back when the anime was relevant and when they still cared about Pokemon.

Ken Masters - Fodder line

We've already seen Ken in a contest where he got to face Ganondorf, so that provides us with a decent read on his strength.
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half_silver28
06/24/19 9:53:45 PM
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