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King_Hellebuyck 06/25/19 2:05:24 PM #1: |
https://medium.com/@teamwarren/my-plan-to-strengthen-our-democracy-6867ec1bcd3c
Elections are the foundation of our democracy, but in the United States the greatest democracy in the world our government treats voting like its one of the least important things we do. We have around 8,000 election jurisdictions all doing their own thing. They are overstretched, under-resourced, and their technology is often laughably out of date. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 06/25/19 2:06:33 PM #2: |
Heres how my plan will work: --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 06/25/19 2:09:02 PM #3: |
Establishing Binding Federal Standards for Federal Elections --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 06/25/19 2:09:27 PM #4: |
States can choose to follow their own rules for their state and local elections. But if they do, they wont receive new funding for administering state elections beyond election security measures, and they will still have to administer federal elections in accordance with federal law including preclearance for any changes that might have a discriminatory impact under the Voting Rights Advancement Act. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hollow_shrine 06/25/19 2:14:56 PM #5: |
More so than her 1% wealth tax, this is the kind of legislation I suspect conservatives will most vehemently oppose.
Like, how are you going to pass something like this without having all the branches under your wing. The states that like their broken system will be waiting for you at the door with legal challenges to march up the appeals courts. Short of literally winning all the marbles, I don't see how she can do this. I love the idea that someone is so committed to the idea as to have laid out a plan. I think she's taking it seriously. I just also think she's picking a really tough fight here. --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 06/25/19 3:29:05 PM #6: |
Laying out bold, intelligent plans that no one should oppose is good politics.
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chrono625 06/25/19 3:33:25 PM #7: |
Maybe we should impose term limits on all seats?
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King_Hellebuyck 06/25/19 3:36:28 PM #8: |
chrono625 posted...
Maybe we should impose term limits on all seats? Im not sure what this has to do with this topic. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chrono625 06/25/19 3:45:35 PM #9: |
King_Hellebuyck posted...
chrono625 posted...Maybe we should impose term limits on all seats? Not much. But I think if you're going to "strengthen democracy" you should actually have different individuals in Congress rather than the same people for 20-40 years. --- https://imgur.com/Rqk1DYV - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 06/25/19 3:48:08 PM #10: |
chrono625 posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...chrono625 posted...Maybe we should impose term limits on all seats? In order to strengthen democracy we need to limit who people can vote for is a strange stance to take particularly in a topic that has nothing to do with term limits. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jiek_Fafn 06/25/19 3:51:13 PM #11: |
Make something where I can vote on my phone. Voting rate will go through the fucking roof.
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The Trent 06/25/19 3:51:53 PM #12: |
Jiek_Fafn posted...
Make something where I can vote on my phone. Voting rate will go through the fucking roof. totally clandestine too! --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kazi1212 06/25/19 3:53:56 PM #13: |
Yikes
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lolife67 06/25/19 3:54:20 PM #14: |
King_Hellebuyck posted...
In order to strengthen democracy we need to limit who people can vote for is a strange stance to take particularly in a topic that has nothing to do with term limits. We're already limited to who we can vote for. It's been that way from the start. Limiting Congressional terms would be no different than limiting the President's or having age minimums. There needs to be term limits and/or an age cap to run for Congress. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 06/25/19 3:54:33 PM #15: |
Kazi1212 posted...
Yikes Quality post from the dude who has repeatedly admitted to trolling because hes bored --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 06/25/19 3:54:50 PM #16: |
lolife67 posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...In order to strengthen democracy we need to limit who people can vote for is a strange stance to take particularly in a topic that has nothing to do with term limits. Go start a new topic about it --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ElatedVenusaur 06/25/19 3:55:04 PM #17: |
lolife67 posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...In order to strengthen democracy we need to limit who people can vote for is a strange stance to take particularly in a topic that has nothing to do with term limits. We already have bad, anti-democratic rules, so we need more of them? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lolife67 06/25/19 3:59:31 PM #18: |
ElatedVenusaur posted...
We already have bad, anti-democratic rules, so we need more of them? Except those aren't really "bad" rules? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 06/25/19 4:00:08 PM #19: |
Wait, people are against term limits now?
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Pukelid 06/25/19 4:01:12 PM #20: |
I'm all for term limits but that's p off topic
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King_Hellebuyck 06/25/19 4:01:50 PM #21: |
Make a topic about term limits if you want to talk about term limits. I dont get why youd want to do it in this topic.
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Musourenka 06/25/19 4:07:32 PM #22: |
Ambitious and very unlikely to pass, but it's something needed.
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lolife67 06/25/19 4:09:25 PM #23: |
On topic, I like the plan and agree it won't pass. but I'm glad someone is actually outlining their specific policies.
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Doom_Art 06/25/19 4:26:17 PM #24: |
hollow_shrine posted...
Short of literally winning all the marbles, I don't see how she can do this. I love the idea that someone is so committed to the idea as to have laid out a plan. I think she's taking it seriously. I just also think she's picking a really tough fight here. There's powers available to the President outside of congress and the courts that can be used to force issues like this. She said the same thing with her climate plans and wealth tax stuff. In the event the Democrats win only one or neither chamber of Congress in 2020, then the plan is to do most of this outside of the legislature wherever possible and work on Congress next. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 06/25/19 4:30:48 PM #25: |
This also seems like a funny thing to watch Republicans fight against.
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hollow_shrine 06/25/19 4:31:22 PM #26: |
Doom_Art posted...
hollow_shrine posted...Short of literally winning all the marbles, I don't see how she can do this. I love the idea that someone is so committed to the idea as to have laid out a plan. I think she's taking it seriously. I just also think she's picking a really tough fight here. I guess the question is, how much of this can be executed without the support of congress? When the state election boards start bitching about federal overreach to the courts, how are those courts likely to react? King_Hellebuyck posted... This also seems like a funny thing to watch Republicans fight against. I don't think this is funny anymore. They're been fighting it in stages since the cutting of the Civil Rights act back in 2010. RBG's strongly worded dissension to that court ruling is the only reason a lot of us even know who she is. --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 06/25/19 4:31:55 PM #27: |
King_Hellebuyck posted...
This also seems like a funny thing to watch Republicans fight against. I expect it from the higher up Republicans, but I always get a kick out of regular conservatives shilling against pro-democracy shit like this --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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friendbuddypal 06/25/19 4:31:59 PM #28: |
Doom_Art posted...
hollow_shrine posted...Short of literally winning all the marbles, I don't see how she can do this. I love the idea that someone is so committed to the idea as to have laid out a plan. I think she's taking it seriously. I just also think she's picking a really tough fight here. Openly planning to legislate without the consent of the legislative branch is a bold strategy. I hope the power of the executive branch is reigned in before a lunatic like Warren ends up misusing it. --- CIA: You're a big guy. Bane: For you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 06/25/19 4:33:05 PM #29: |
friendbuddypal posted...
Openly planning to legislate without the consent of the legislative branch is a bold strategy. I hope the power of the executive branch is reigned in before a lunatic like Warren ends up misusing it. Unfortunately the last several Republican presidents have set a poor standard for limits on executive power. So now someone like Warren will have many tools at their disposal when they enter office --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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friendbuddypal 06/25/19 4:34:35 PM #30: |
Doom_Art posted...
friendbuddypal posted...Openly planning to legislate without the consent of the legislative branch is a bold strategy. I hope the power of the executive branch is reigned in before a lunatic like Warren ends up misusing it. What are some examples of Republican presidents overreaching their authority? --- CIA: You're a big guy. Bane: For you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 06/25/19 4:36:22 PM #31: |
friendbuddypal posted...
What are some examples of Republican presidents overreaching their authority? Read a book yo. I ain't your teacher Reagan, Bush, Bush 2, Trump Very authoritarian folks. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 06/25/19 4:37:23 PM #32: |
Regardless, the expansion of executive power over the last 40 years is another topic entirely.
I'm just saying that is Warren's first step for achieving her policy goals --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 06/25/19 4:37:32 PM #33: |
Please dont turn this into a stupid argument that has nothing to do with the actual policy.
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friendbuddypal 06/25/19 4:38:57 PM #34: |
Doom_Art posted...
Read a book yo. I ain't your teacher So you don't have any examples? Shocking. --- CIA: You're a big guy. Bane: For you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hollow_shrine 06/25/19 4:40:04 PM #35: |
friendbuddypal posted...
Openly planning to legislate without the consent of the legislative branch is a bold strategy. Not anymore. Not for the past three presidencies. I think the standard for what qualifies as bold has been kicked so far down the road, accusations of implementing a radical agenda can be plainly dismissed as bad faith hand-wringing. No matter what you do you're going to get the 'radical' critique from the right, and the conflict drives media ad revenue so CNN will find a way to a 'middle ground.' Knowing that's going to happen regardless, we shouldn't hold back for fear of what the other side will do. And we should get more comfortable dragging shitty reporting/punditry when we hear it, and not give a chance to seed in people's mind. --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 06/25/19 4:41:22 PM #36: |
hollow_shrine posted...
Not anymore. Not for the past three presidencies. I think the standard for what qualifies as bold has been kicked so far down the road, accusations of implementing a radical agenda can be plainly dismissed as bad faith hand-wringing. Not matter what you do you're going to get the 'radical' critique from the right, and the conflict drives media ad revenue so CNN will find a way to a 'middle ground.' Knowing that's going to happen regardless, we shouldn't hold back for fear of what the other side will do. And we should get more comfortable dragging shitty reporting/punditry when we hear it, and not give a chance to seed in people's mind. Yeah I mean it's not as though she is advocating for more powers for herself It more like "using the tools you are being given" --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SideshowBob311 06/25/19 4:41:31 PM #37: |
King_Hellebuyck posted...
This also seems like a funny thing to watch Republicans fight against. I wouldn't oppose this particular measure in general...but if we have to have nutball Warren as a president to get it? Yeah, 100% not worth it. If someone more moderate wanted to run with this I'd be all for it. --- "Whether or not you can handle it, you have just heard another statement of the TRUTH." [WoT] - [Evil Republican] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hollow_shrine 06/25/19 4:42:20 PM #38: |
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Please dont turn this into a stupid argument that has nothing to do with the actual policy. In principles ethical, and democratic, the policy itself seems pretty unassailable. --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pukelid 06/25/19 4:42:58 PM #39: |
Read thru post 3 so far, this is all completely agreeable stuff. Making voting a uniform process across the board is great. Same day reg and automatic sound great. I like what I'm seeing so far. Warren wasn't really on my radar but this has inspired me to read into her more.
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Doom_Art 06/25/19 4:43:24 PM #40: |
On an another note, it's very encouraging that this along with SOCTUS reform are actually something that Democrats are talking about openly now.
Mayor Pete was interviewed in the New Yorker a few months ago and had similar opinions to Warren on democratic reform (though obviously his ideas weren't as detailed) and went in on his own stuff about reforming the Supreme Court Very exciting stuff --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Goats 06/25/19 4:44:35 PM #41: |
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Please dont turn this into a stupid argument that has nothing to do with the actual policy. That's HypnoCoosh's MO though. --- Sigless user alert ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 06/25/19 4:56:42 PM #42: |
Republicans are totally fine with foreign interference, so no way you get them on board with this.
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King_Hellebuyck 06/25/19 5:07:54 PM #43: |
Pukelid posted...
Read thru post 3 so far, this is all completely agreeable stuff. Making voting a uniform process across the board is great. Same day reg and automatic sound great. I like what I'm seeing so far. Warren wasn't really on my radar but this has inspired me to read into her more. Warren has been releasing a ton of detailed policy ideas, read up on them. Even if you dont fully agree with all of them, its so much better than vague thoughts. Doom_Art posted... Mayor Pete was interviewed in the New Yorker a few months ago and had similar opinions to Warren on democratic reform (though obviously his ideas weren't as detailed) and went in on his own stuff about reforming the Supreme Court Buttigiegs Supreme Court plan is ripe for future abuse. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 06/25/19 5:11:39 PM #44: |
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Buttigiegs Supreme Court plan is ripe for future abuse. Possibly, but frankly I'm just happy people are talking about it. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 06/25/19 5:15:02 PM #45: |
Doom_Art posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...Buttigiegs Supreme Court plan is ripe for future abuse. How would you feel if, in 2017, Trump and McConnell decided the Supreme Court should have 15 seats? And then the GOP rammed 6 conservative judges into those roles? --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SideshowBob311 06/25/19 5:40:18 PM #46: |
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Doom_Art posted...King_Hellebuyck posted...Buttigiegs Supreme Court plan is ripe for future abuse. Democrats are always in favor of tinkering with the rules when it works in their favor and then are somehow outraged when the other side uses their tinkering as precedent to do same thing at some point in the future. They learned absolutely nothing with the 2013 senate filibuster stupidity. --- "Whether or not you can handle it, you have just heard another statement of the TRUTH." [WoT] - [Evil Republican] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 06/25/19 5:41:57 PM #47: |
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Doom_Art posted...King_Hellebuyck posted...Buttigiegs Supreme Court plan is ripe for future abuse. If the GOP thought that would help them, they wouldn't wait for Democrats to do it first. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pukelid 06/25/19 5:45:01 PM #48: |
Oh I'll definitely look into her plans. Love to read something concrete. When I get settled in I'll brush up; it's about time I do anyway.
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King_Hellebuyck 06/25/19 7:56:44 PM #49: |
Antifar posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...Doom_Art posted...King_Hellebuyck posted...Buttigiegs Supreme Court plan is ripe for future abuse. Thats not a real answer but speaks volumes about Buttigiegs plan. Not that I think youre a fan of him anyway. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Hellebuyck 06/25/19 11:23:27 PM #50: |
bump
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