Board 8 > Which was a bigger improvement over the original, Zelda 3 or Mario 3?

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Haste_2
06/25/19 10:48:10 PM
#1:


Which was a bigger improvement over the original, Zelda 3 or Mario 3? - Results (10 votes)
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
50% (5 votes)
5
Super Mario Bros. 3
50% (5 votes)
5
It's kind of inspired by today's "favorite Mario" poll....
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Haste_2
06/25/19 10:56:06 PM
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As great as SMB3 is, I gotta go with Link to the Past. I'm flabbergasted to this day by how that game was made in 1991....how amazingly fun it is and how it's stood the test of time. SMB3 perfected the original Mario formula, but Link to the Past created a new, better Zelda formula.
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LOLIAmAnAlt
06/25/19 10:59:39 PM
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1 > 3
1 > 3
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Leafeon13N
06/25/19 10:59:48 PM
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Given that lttp runs on new hardware i find the jumo to SMB3 more impressive.
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MZero11
06/25/19 11:26:36 PM
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Easily Link to the Past, if only because of how bad Zelda 1 is. SMB1 is pretty good so the difference between 1 and 3 isn't as big
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ScareChan
06/25/19 11:27:39 PM
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Mario
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ShamelessSteve
06/25/19 11:33:00 PM
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Link to the Past brought more innovation to its series' formula than Mario 3 did.
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azuarc
06/25/19 11:37:33 PM
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I consider Mario 3 to be (for its time and relative to all of gaming) the greatest game of all time, but Mario 1 is better than Zelda 1 by enough that the answer here is LTTP.
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StartTheMachine
06/25/19 11:42:55 PM
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Mario 3 is like...the biggest leap in the history of gaming to me. The leap from 1 to it blows my mind more than the transition to 3D or anything else.
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Zigzagoon
06/26/19 12:02:49 AM
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Mario 3 since I like Z1 more than Link to the Past soooo
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WazzupGenius00
06/26/19 12:03:55 AM
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I like The Legend of Zelda much more than Link to the Past
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metaIslug
06/26/19 12:18:52 AM
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Metrioid 3. But out of those Zelda
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Waluigi1
06/26/19 12:28:21 AM
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Leafeon13N posted...
Given that lttp runs on new hardware i find the jumo to SMB3 more impressive.

I voted LttP but but I didn't think about this and it kinda changed my mind.
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TheCodeisBosco
06/26/19 12:38:45 AM
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LOLIAmAnAlt posted...
1 > 3
1 > 3

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The Popo
06/26/19 12:40:19 AM
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Zelda. The fact that it was on new hardware is a main reason for this. Better graphics, more innovations, a cartridge that stayed crunchy in milk... it had it all.
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Rango
06/26/19 12:50:45 AM
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Unanswerable question. Both games had a tremendous, equal amount of impact on their respective genres. Both games are also the greatest in their respective franchises and are still used as influences to this very day.
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Nrrr
06/26/19 12:51:21 AM
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MZero11 posted...
Easily Link to the Past, if only because of how bad Zelda 1 is. SMB1 is pretty good so the difference between 1 and 3 isn't as big
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pjbasis
06/26/19 1:05:08 AM
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Are you talking about over the sequel or the first game
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pjbasis
06/26/19 1:05:33 AM
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TheCodeisBosco posted...
LOLIAmAnAlt posted...
1 > 3
1 > 3


Also this
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Xuxon
06/26/19 1:17:56 AM
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ALttP is like my second favorite game of all time, but i also really love Zelda 1 and SMB3. SMB1, not so much. so gotta go with SMB3 as the bigger improvement.
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Grand Kirby
06/26/19 2:19:33 AM
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I think Zelda 3 is the better game, but Smb1 was worse than Zelda 1, so technically Mario had the bigger leap in quality.
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Paratroopa1
06/26/19 2:23:56 AM
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I don't consider LttP an improvement over Zelda 1, but I do consider Mario 3 an improvement over Mario 1
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Axl_Rose_85
06/26/19 2:47:02 AM
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A Link to the Past in terms of improvement and quality jump from Zelda 1

But SMB1 is a better game than Zelda 1 and SMB3 is also a better game than ALttP
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SeabassDebeste
06/26/19 8:07:31 AM
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Nanis23
06/26/19 12:41:43 PM
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Of course Zelda
Mario 3 is a negative improvement
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Underleveled
06/26/19 12:44:19 PM
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Haste_2 posted...
As great as SMB3 is, I gotta go with Link to the Past. I'm flabbergasted to this day by how that game was made in 1991....how amazingly fun it is and how it's stood the test of time. SMB3 perfected the original Mario formula, but Link to the Past created a new, better Zelda formula.

This sums up my thoughts perfectly.
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neonreaper
06/26/19 1:03:19 PM
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I went Mario 3 based on gut feeling, but this is a difficult question to answer. Mario 1 and Zelda 1 are amazing games, and Mario 3 and LttP are definitely masterpieces. I guess it comes down to the controls and level design in Mario games vs the presentation and dungeon design in Zelda, and I guess I still consider Mario 3 the bigger improvement.

Part of this, I think, is that the Zelda action-adventure formula was solid from the start. Mario's formula had to change a bit more.
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Yao
06/26/19 1:20:10 PM
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Zelda. Not even close
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Waluigi1
06/26/19 1:22:06 PM
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Nanis23 posted...
Of course Zelda
Mario 3 is a negative improvement

I can't even comprehend having an opinion this bad.
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swordz9
06/26/19 1:26:02 PM
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I cant fairly answer since I havent played LoZ 1, but I wasnt fond of ALttP. One day I should get around to playing the LoZ and Mario games Ive never played
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Alanna82
06/26/19 1:48:07 PM
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Grand Kirby posted...
I think Zelda 3 is the better game, but Smb1 was worse than Zelda 1, so technically Mario had the bigger leap in quality.


This sums up my feelings.
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The_Ctes
06/26/19 5:24:02 PM
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Leafeon13N posted...
Given that lttp runs on new hardware i find the jumo to SMB3 more impressive.


Based on this, SMB3.
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LeonhartFour
06/26/19 5:25:54 PM
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Never played the original Zelda, so I can't comment on this. I think Mario 3 is one of the greatest platformers ever and I don't really care that much for LttP, so the answer would probably be Mario 3 either way though.
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StifledSilence
06/26/19 5:30:22 PM
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Mario 1 and Mario 3 are pretty different, honestly. Different art style, different course structure, etc. I'd hesitate to call 3 an improvement because it does something drastically different from 1. I enjoy both for different reasons.

Zelda/Link to the Past, on the other hand, are very similar to each other mechanically. LttP feels like an upgraded LoZ to me. So that got my vote.
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Paratroopa1
06/26/19 7:34:50 PM
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StifledSilence posted...
Mario 1 and Mario 3 are pretty different, honestly. Different art style, different course structure, etc. I'd hesitate to call 3 an improvement because it does something drastically different from 1. I enjoy both for different reasons.

Zelda/Link to the Past, on the other hand, are very similar to each other mechanically. LttP feels like an upgraded LoZ to me. So that got my vote.

this is like literally the opposite of how I feel, lol

I think Zelda 1 and LttP are structured very differently and have different design goals, whereas SMB1 and SMB3 are generally pretty similar in what they're trying to accomplish
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Paratroopa1
06/26/19 7:37:43 PM
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I feel like I'm the only one here who loves all four of these games haha

SMB3 and Zelda 1 are in my top 3 though and SMB1 and LttP are merely near the bottom of my top 50, so I have pretty clear differences in how I feel obviously
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Axl_Rose_85
06/27/19 1:49:04 AM
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Paratroopa1 posted...
StifledSilence posted...
Mario 1 and Mario 3 are pretty different, honestly. Different art style, different course structure, etc. I'd hesitate to call 3 an improvement because it does something drastically different from 1. I enjoy both for different reasons.

Zelda/Link to the Past, on the other hand, are very similar to each other mechanically. LttP feels like an upgraded LoZ to me. So that got my vote.

this is like literally the opposite of how I feel, lol

I think Zelda 1 and LttP are structured very differently and have different design goals, whereas SMB1 and SMB3 are generally pretty similar in what they're trying to accomplish


This is the right answer and the reason why ALttP is the bigger improvement despite SMB3 being the better game
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