Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing

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Playerlist (15 alive)
1. Pezloco
2. UltimaterializerX
3. Lea3Lea
4. Benjamin
5. SBell (Obellisk)
6. Camarija
7. MZero
8. 5tarscream
9. Hbthebattle
10. Death (HtaeD)
11. Tom Bombadil
12. Lopen
13. turbopuns3
14. Corrik
15. Lolo_Guru

Deadlist (6 dead)
LD1 - Luis_Sera aka The One Ring (Lord of the Rings), MAFIA Redirector
KN1 - Scarechan (replaced eaedwards) aka J.D. Salinger (as portrayed on BoJack Horseman), TOWN Villager
LD2 - Red13n aka Nyarlathotep (H.P. Lovecraft), MAFIA Backup
MKN2 - TheSultanOfSlam aka Atticus Finch (To Kill A Mockingbird), TOWN Mayor
KN2 - Dowolf aka Piggy (Lord of the Flies), TOWN Kingmaker
KN2 - Sir Chris aka g (the English alphabet), TOWN Villager
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pezloco posted...

Unofficial Votals (as of post 447)
(5) SBell: Puns, MZero, (Ben), (Lea), (Lopen), (Tom), (Corrik), Cam, (Corrik), Corrik, Death
(3) MZero: (Lea), (Ben), (5tar), (Ulti), (Lea), (Ben), (Ulti), (Pez), Ulti, (Lea), (Corrik), Ben, SBell
(3) Lolo: (Corrik), (Tom), (SBell), Tom, Lopen, (Lea), Lea
(1) Lea: (Tom), Hb
(1) Tom: (Lopen), Cam
(1) Cam: (5tar), (Ulti), (SBell), (Tom), Lolo, (Corrik)
(0) Pez: (Ben), (Ulti)
(0) Lopen: (Corrik)
(0) Hb: (Corrik)
(0) Puns: (SBell)
(0) Ben: (Lopen)
(0) Hb: (Lopen)

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ok

I don't think the claim makes me want to vote Obellisk less

They claimed something

Cool

Mafia are supposed to have watertight fake claims so it really doesn't mean anything to me

They've been sitting back and not really doing anything consequential this game

I thought it was because they were a power role or Mafia

And yeah, they claim villager, so my logic remains

restating, I could go for an HB lynch honestly

and adding
That probably is not going anywhere

I hate that Lolo is not posting. I certainly would have voted him by now if he didnt claim BG

That said, I like sbell more than Mzero right now based on my reread. Sbell at least at times makes posts that seem genuinely caring for the game. Even on the dreaded day1
I couldnt say the same for Mzero

##Unvote
##Vote: mzero
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aha!
think you could eat my post eh internet connection?

well fuck you
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Ulti who are you talking to?

just off work now
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Camarija posted...

Ulti who are you talking to?

He's referring to Cam believing 5tar but thinking Ulti is scum after a "clean" scan.
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Lolo_Guru posted...

just off work now

Tell me why other than your claim I shouldn't vote for you?
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pezloco posted...

Camarija posted...

Ulti who are you talking to?

He's referring to Cam believing 5tar but thinking Ulti is scum after a "clean" scan.

Why is he hyper focusing on this?

I claimed because I thought flavor meant nothing

So the options are:

1. Flavor means something and I'm an unknown miller

2. Flavor means nothing and 5tarscream gets his information from fellow Mafia and/or Mafia full scanner

Option 1 was something that became an obvious reality

It feels like someone really weird to hyper focus on

pezloco posted...

can you remind me why you think Lolo is scum? Was there much beyond third potter weirdness and absenteeism?

I don't like BG+Chrono, and it was a really weird time to claim. Think there were some other arguments I kinda liked but it's mostly those two points and the absenteeism at this point. I go back and forth about how much I care about there being three HP characters but if there aren't then I think my little analysis thingy kinda locks him in as scum (and Cam as town)
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Camarija posted...

pezloco posted...

Camarija posted...

Ulti who are you talking to?

He's referring to Cam believing 5tar but thinking Ulti is scum after a "clean" scan.

Why is he hyper focusing on this?

I claimed because I thought flavor meant nothing

So the options are:

1. Flavor means something and I'm an unknown miller

2. Flavor means nothing and 5tarscream gets his information from fellow Mafia and/or Mafia full scanner

Option 1 was something that became an obvious reality

It feels like someone really weird to hyper focus on

We aren't talking about 5tar's scan on you anymore...5tar scanned Ulti as someone from Great Gatsby connected to a pool. Ulti claimed the gardener who did something about the pool. Ulti got a clean scan from 5tar. You think 5tar is flavor cop that means something. And yet you doubt Ulti.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

pezloco posted...

can you remind me why you think Lolo is scum? Was there much beyond third potter weirdness and absenteeism?

I don't like BG+Chrono, and it was a really weird time to claim. Think there were some other arguments I kinda liked but it's mostly those two points and the absenteeism at this point. I go back and forth about how much I care about there being three HP characters but if there aren't then I think my little analysis thingy kinda locks him in as scum (and Cam as town)

You have a level of confidence for me?
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pezloco posted...

Camarija posted...

pezloco posted...

Camarija posted...

Ulti who are you talking to?

He's referring to Cam believing 5tar but thinking Ulti is scum after a "clean" scan.

Why is he hyper focusing on this?

I claimed because I thought flavor meant nothing

So the options are:

1. Flavor means something and I'm an unknown miller

2. Flavor means nothing and 5tarscream gets his information from fellow Mafia and/or Mafia full scanner

Option 1 was something that became an obvious reality

It feels like someone really weird to hyper focus on

We aren't talking about 5tar's scan on you anymore...5tar scanned Ulti as someone from Great Gatsby connected to a pool. Ulti claimed the gardener who did something about the pool. Ulti got a clean scan from 5tar. You think 5tar is flavor cop that means something. And yet you doubt Ulti.

Yeah I honestly missed all of that

I've been at the beach so there's that

Camarija posted...

Option 1 was something that became an obvious reality

in which case Ulti is heavily implied to be town by 5tar's claimed scans

unless 5tar botched something or is lying (both of which are possibilities but pretty small ones) Ulti is pretty much TOWN LOCK once you accept flavor scanner as a thing that exists
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Camarija posted...

pezloco posted...

Camarija posted...

pezloco posted...

Camarija posted...

Ulti who are you talking to?

He's referring to Cam believing 5tar but thinking Ulti is scum after a "clean" scan.

Why is he hyper focusing on this?

I claimed because I thought flavor meant nothing

So the options are:

1. Flavor means something and I'm an unknown miller

2. Flavor means nothing and 5tarscream gets his information from fellow Mafia and/or Mafia full scanner

Option 1 was something that became an obvious reality

It feels like someone really weird to hyper focus on

We aren't talking about 5tar's scan on you anymore...5tar scanned Ulti as someone from Great Gatsby connected to a pool. Ulti claimed the gardener who did something about the pool. Ulti got a clean scan from 5tar. You think 5tar is flavor cop that means something. And yet you doubt Ulti.

Yeah I honestly missed all of that

I've been at the beach so there's that

@UltimaterializerX there's your answer. He was unaware of the scan on you.
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pezloco posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

pezloco posted...

can you remind me why you think Lolo is scum? Was there much beyond third potter weirdness and absenteeism?

I don't like BG+Chrono, and it was a really weird time to claim. Think there were some other arguments I kinda liked but it's mostly those two points and the absenteeism at this point. I go back and forth about how much I care about there being three HP characters but if there aren't then I think my little analysis thingy kinda locks him in as scum (and Cam as town)

You have a level of confidence for me?

Let's say 70%
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cam how much of the game would you say you have read at this point
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pezloco posted...

Lolo_Guru posted...

just off work now

Tell me why other than your claim I shouldn't vote for you?

Eh.

I don't have a lot to say in my favor. I know I've been gone, I know I've been behind on the topics most of the time, I know I haven't gotten my thoughts out in a timely manner most of this game.
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Cam you need to be more aware
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Tom Bombadil posted...

cam how much of the game would you say you have read at this point

I think I read most of day 1 and day 2 a few times

Each time it's more of a scan for particular note taking

cam you need to stop being at the beach because I don't get to be at the beach and I am jealous
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htaeD posted...

Cam you need to be more aware

kk

cam can you see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch
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anyway

ok

let's go full monty on the flavor cop with the Ulti clear

I'll vote wherever Flavor Cop and Ulti go

alright

nothing really subtantially changes for me I think right?

I'm still straddling MZero and Obellisk today I believe

Tom Bombadil posted...

cam can you see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch

bahaha

Life's a beach :)

Tom Bombadil posted...

cam can you see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch

yes!!!!!

I want some now :D

I haven't had Cinnamon Toast Crunch in a dang while now I want some too

anyway I think I am relatively okay with any of lolo/sbell/mzero so hey good job everybody

Gut Tom is feeling mzero rather suddenly but I think that's just a byproduct of second guessing myself on the other two
Logic Tom doesn't like Lolo's claim
GAME THEORY Tom thinks Apathetic!Vanillaclaim!Sbell is the minimax even if he reads townier than before today

that's right folks he's going for the rarely attempted triple bet-hedging combo

Lea is also still a person who exists hi Lea
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UltimaterializerX posted...

/facedesk

/facedesk

/facedesk

/facedesk

/facedesk

/facedesk

This actually made me laugh, possibly more than Tom's stuff today. Well done.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

Lea is also still a person who exists hi Lea

I think Lea is off my voting list for today. I want to reevaluate her after our lynch today.
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Yeah she's fine for now and possibly even moving forward.

but she is still a person who exists
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I think I've talked myself out of voting for MZero. MZero is playing with more confidence, particularly confidence that SBell is scum. This is a stronger read than any scum reads he had last game. I would expect a mafia person to indeed be more confident. Except, they'd be more confident about town reads.

So, personally I'm deciding between SBell and Lolo.
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It feels too quiet. But I still feel my vote is in the right place.
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Camarija posted...

This is more or less my current Process of Elimination after a quick sorting

1. Pezloco
2. UltimaterializerX
5. SBell (Obellisk)
7. MZero
11. Tom Bombadil
14. Corrik

I need to review to see who else I can remove from the list

So if i take off Ulti

I'm down to:
Pez
SBell
MZero
Tom
Corrik

Yeah ok

I'm good straddling MZero and SBell today

I expect more often than people on the above list to find reasons not to vote people on the list above

##Unvote

##Vote: Mzero

I had a really good day today! I bet the good times will keep on rolling and Mzero will flip scum and then finally people will be all "wow Lea you're so good at Mafia and now you have enough reputation points that we'll listen to you and lynch Puns too"

Lea3Lea posted...

##Unvote

##Vote: Mzero

I had a really good day today! I bet the good times will keep on rolling and Mzero will flip scum and then finally people will be all "wow Lea you're so good at Mafia and now you have enough reputation points that we'll listen to you and lynch Puns too"

I always thought you were incredible on certain metrics! :D

And yeah, between lolo and MZero I'd prefer MZero

UltimaterializerX posted...

Camarija posted...

Camarija posted...

This is more or less my current Process of Elimination after a quick sorting

1. Pezloco
2. UltimaterializerX
5. SBell (Obellisk)
7. MZero
11. Tom Bombadil
14. Corrik

I need to review to see who else I can remove from the list

So if i take off Ulti

Hello fellow head banger

What's your POE looking like?

do you mean your
ISO?!?
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I believe he is referring to control + fluffy

or is it control+fishy
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pezloco posted...

I think I've talked myself out of voting for MZero. MZero is playing with more confidence, particularly confidence that SBell is scum. This is a stronger read than any scum reads he had last game. I would expect a mafia person to indeed be more confident. Except, they'd be more confident about town reads.

So, personally I'm deciding between SBell and Lolo.

Wrong. My last memory of scum Mzero was him tunneling one person the entire game who never got lynched. He used wording very similar to saying he was handing them to us on a silver platter and no one was listening. So he can totally play by this strategy as scum
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But Pez, Mzero was super confident in his town reads earlier on (which he basically hasn't mentioned since). It was the whole thing I was on him for, saying Corrik and Lopen were obv town and Chris was probably town based on nothing

I do feel like Mzero and Sbell are similar enough and easy enough to push that scum can totally lead the way in choosing who we kill (unless both are scum, but I doubt that extremely at this point). So that is the reason I want to shoot for someone else entirely.

But yes out of the two it's Mzero who I am fine with killing. Nothing redeeming whatsoever from them.
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benjamin3740 posted...

pezloco posted...

I think I've talked myself out of voting for MZero. MZero is playing with more confidence, particularly confidence that SBell is scum. This is a stronger read than any scum reads he had last game. I would expect a mafia person to indeed be more confident. Except, they'd be more confident about town reads.

So, personally I'm deciding between SBell and Lolo.

Wrong. My last memory of scum Mzero was him tunneling one person the entire game who never got lynched. He used wording very similar to saying he was handing them to us on a silver platter and no one was listening. So he can totally play by this strategy as scum

I'm not sure I've played with MZero outside of WWE mafia. This may indeed be the case. Hence why I asked about his confidence in earlier posts.
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