Current Events > Finished Life is Strange *this topic will have consequences*

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Played it because a friend is obsessed with it and keeps calling me Max. Overall it was a good game, really liked it.

Was pretty flawed though. The best parts were using your time travel powers to solve logic puzzles, and those were very rare. Its essentially a visual novel, which isnt bad, but I wish it was more heavy on the gameplay because what was there was really fun.

The characters were all very interesting, I liked seeing them and there relationships with Max grow. Only bad part is that after a while the dialogue devolved into pretty boring youre a super special awesome person and my friend! But most of it was still good imo.

My final choice was to (major spoilers)


Save Chloe. I actually felt really bad picking that choice at first, but after I did I dont really have any regrets. Something about seeing them together just felt right.


As for the villain (more major spoilers)

Mr Jefferson gave me creepy vibes from the first scene. Cant explain it. So even if I hadnt been spoiled from my last topic about this (lol) it wouldnt have been a big surprise.


From a story-telling perspective the game was really well done imo. The plots were pretty compellingly layered in a way that fit together, and mostly stayed fit together even with the time travel stuff. I really appreciated that.

Overall, again, really liked it. Just wish there was more gameplay. Dont know if Ill dive right back into it to do other choices because you apparently cant skip dialogue.

One final note: whenever the teacher,
Mr. Jefferson was brought up I kept thinking of the South Park character, and the mental image of him taking the game characters place was too funny. >_>
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Yeah it's a pretty neat games. If you like it the others are pretty good too. I'd say they're more competently told stories but they're not as inherently interesting since they miss that narrative hook of the missing girl mystery.

Really neat and unique series.
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You should read the comic series

It's a direct continuation of season 1, unlike season 2 of the game
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AlisLandale posted...

My final choice was to (major spoilers)

Good man. Arcadia Bay was dying a slow death anyway and literally nothing actually proves or supports Chloe's theory. Especially since Max has a vision of the tornado before she's ever even aware of anything supernatural.
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Wouldn't the fact that no tornado/reality breaking stuff happens if she dies prove her theory? At the very least the tornado is the cost of keeping her alive.
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Darmik posted...

Wouldn't the fact that no tornado/reality breaking stuff happens if she dies prove her theory? At the very least the tornado is the cost of keeping her alive.

I'm talking about the game, not that ending (which I don't think Max would ever do but that's a different discussion).If the ending hadn't specifically shown sunshine, there's nothing actually supporting or proving it. And even then, she has a vision before powers are ever used. If stories like this have shown me anything, that tornado is still coming.
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*Minor Life is Strange 2 spoilers*

The tornado never comes if you choose the Save Bay ending because the town is fine in Life is Strange 2
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Darmik posted...

*Minor Life is Strange 2 spoilers*

The tornado never comes if you choose the Save Bay ending because the town is fine in Life is Strange 2

If the comics are canon, this isn't proof that she was right either. And even then, pointing to a sequel to prove something that had no proof in the first one is bad writing and one of the many reason picking to sacrifice Chloe is a rash decision based on nothing but emotions.

Also also, it could've be rebuilt.
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Good man.

Bae over Bay
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It's based on what the story constantly communicates to you throughout the game. That every time Chloe is saved there is a harsh reaction from the universe. It's a pretty common trope in time travel stories.

It's fine if you want to make your own theories behind why things happen the way they do into it but they aren't backed by anything in the game. It's not bad writing if the sequel chooses the rather obvious interpretation instead of the one you have chosen.
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Darmik posted...

It's based on what the story constantly communicates to you throughout the game. That every time Chloe is saved there is a harsh reaction from the universe. It's a pretty common trope in time travel stories.

It's fine if you want to make your own theories behind why things happen the way they do into it but they aren't backed by anything in the game. It's not bad writing if the sequel chooses the rather obvious interpretation instead of the one you have chosen.

Sorry you can't accept that there's no evidence for it. Don't know what to tell you.
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I know you're really invested in this idea that the game is subtly telling you that there is a right choice for the ending but it just simply isn't backed by anything within any of the games.

I remember you were absolutely convinced that nobody died by the tornado at one point too.
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dave_is_slick posted...

Sorry you can't accept that there's no evidence for it. Don't know what to tell you.

lol...I bet you have lots of friends.
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That ending isn't canon though, so not like it really matters in the grand scheme of things.
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...

That ending isn't canon though, so not like it really matters in the grand scheme of things.

There is no official canon. Life is Strange 2 lets you pick the ending of LiS1.
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I actually agree that, without hindsight, theres no guarantee that sacrificing Chloe saves Arcadia Bay, since you have the premonition before any time travel happens

But my other reason was if there was any chance for David and Joyce to live through the storm, I wanted them to have the chance to spend time with a more mature, adjusted Chloe in a healthy, loving relationship. Especially after that conversation you have with David in episode 5. The real tragedy would be breaking that family, especially Joyce, even more than it already was
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Darmik posted...

I remember you were absolutely convinced that nobody died by the tornado at one point too.

I have never said that. Don't put words in my mouth.
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I think she got the vision then because it's the most critical branch point for her to alter the timeline. If you choose to sacrifice Chloe it's when the story begins and ends. She either lives through it and accepts it or she travels back to that point from that moment to stop it. She's getting a vision of a future she experiences either way.

Of course her powers are never really explained so we can only speculate. Maybe a future game will go into why this stuff is happening but I'm getting the impression Life is Strange 2 isn't selling very well.
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Darmik posted...

I think she got the vision then because it's the most critical branch point for her to alter the timeline. If you choose to sacrifice Chloe it's when the story begins and ends. She either lives through it and accepts it or she travels back to that point from that moment to stop it. She's getting a vision of a future she experiences either way.

That only makes sense if she was already aware of her powers. As it happened, she was just a girl who had a strange daydream. It doesn't make sense for it to have happened then.
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Honestly I kind of hope the powers are never explained.

A lot of complaints Im reading in old discussions are about how little explanation there is about the mechanics of the time travel powers and the storm. Specifically What makes Chloe so special that she needs to die to prevent a tornado

But the story doesnt really lose anything by leaving it ambiguous. The point of the story is Maxs choices and her relationships, and about how she facilitates Chloes evolution starting with their reunion in Episode 1.

None of that benefits from a detailed magic system.

Im merely thinking from the perspective of Chloe and Max, theres no guarantee, at the lighthouse in that one moment, that sacrificing Chloe fixes anything. But the important thing isnt whether it will or not, but how the characters developed to make the choices that they did. And characters dont need one hundred percent correct information, or all the information at all, to grow. Seeing Chloe grow to the point where she was willing to sacrifice herself is what makes that scene good to me, and it doesnt really matter what would actually happen. Thats just fun post-story discussion ;p
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dave_is_slick posted...

Darmik posted...

I think she got the vision then because it's the most critical branch point for her to alter the timeline. If you choose to sacrifice Chloe it's when the story begins and ends. She either lives through it and accepts it or she travels back to that point from that moment to stop it. She's getting a vision of a future she experiences either way.

That only makes sense if she was already aware of her powers. As it happened, she was just a girl who had a strange daydream. It doesn't make sense for it to have happened then.

Why does she need to be aware of her powers to have a vision? It's right after that she realises she has them and can control them.
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A big "fuck you" to CurrentEvents for spoiling the game for you.

I wouldn't blame you for disliking the game, or generally being pretty meh on it, but I'm glad that you seemed to enjoy it. The part that really kicked the game into overdrive was when you change the past, and you shoot back to a present where Chloe was in a car crash that left her quadriplegic. Like shit, that's some mood whiplash. And then you have to make sure her dad dies in the past to reset the timeline. That was a really special moment, though that rewind puzzle was kind of a pain in the ass.
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Darmik posted...

Why does she need to be aware of her powers to have a vision?

One, that's not what I said. Two, for that theme to fit, she'd have to be aware of them at the time. As it plays out however, it's saying a tornado is coming and then a girl, because Max did not know it was Chloe which is another thing that would have to be changed for your theme to fit, is killed. That says that her death would trigger the tornado, not the other way around.
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TC did you save kate on 1st try?

you mean Life is Chloe?
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A big "f*** you" to CurrentEvents for spoiling the game for you.

Hes got to be someones alt lmao. I wonder who it was. And yeah, that segment was rough. Felt really bad for Chloe as a character seeing what she had to go through.

MelzezDoor posted...

TC did you save kate on 1st try?

I did, but I used a guide for that part because there are some things that I just refuse to let myself fail at.

Similarly, I kept redoing the meeting with Frank until both him and Pompidou were completely unharmed. But I had rewind powers for that part lol
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dave_is_slick posted...

Darmik posted...

Why does she need to be aware of her powers to have a vision?

One, that's not what I said. Two, for that theme to fit, she'd have to be aware of them at the time. As it plays out however, it's saying a tornado is coming and then a girl, because Max did not know it was Chloe which is another thing that would have to be changed for your theme to fit, is killed. That says that her death would trigger the tornado, not the other way around. Now, had the vision occurred after saving the girl, then Chloe's theory would have some actual backing.

Max always saves Chloe with time powers and alters the timeline at least temporarily. There isn't a timeline where the girl dies and Max never finds out she has time powers. Max will always reach a point where a Tornado is about to wipe about Arcadia Bay and she has to make the decision on whether or not she lets it play out.
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Chloes a fucking idiot. Ive not seen a dumber more self absorbed person who couldnt give a fuck that her friend has literal time powers and uses her for her powers to do mundane things.
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Darmik posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

Darmik posted...

Why does she need to be aware of her powers to have a vision?

One, that's not what I said. Two, for that theme to fit, she'd have to be aware of them at the time. As it plays out however, it's saying a tornado is coming and then a girl, because Max did not know it was Chloe which is another thing that would have to be changed for your theme to fit, is killed. That says that her death would trigger the tornado, not the other way around. Now, had the vision occurred after saving the girl, then Chloe's theory would have some actual backing.

Max always saves Chloe with time powers and alters the timeline at least temporarily. There isn't a timeline where the girl dies and Max never finds out she has time powers. Max will always reach a point where a Tornado is about to wipe about Arcadia Bay and she has to make the decision on whether or not she lets it play out.

That sounds a hell of a lot like:
Darmik posted...

It's fine if you want to make your own theories behind why things happen the way they do into it but they aren't backed by anything in the game.

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I know people rave about this game, but I had such a hard time getting through the first couple chapters. The dialogue was just the fucking worst, sounded like it was written by a bunch of 60 year old dudes taking their best guess at what teenage girls talk like. Couldn't get into it.
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Chloe: My dad stinks!
Max: I can manipulate time.
Chloe: Lets do drugs and listen to music!
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dave_is_slick posted...

Darmik posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

Darmik posted...

Why does she need to be aware of her powers to have a vision?

One, that's not what I said. Two, for that theme to fit, she'd have to be aware of them at the time. As it plays out however, it's saying a tornado is coming and then a girl, because Max did not know it was Chloe which is another thing that would have to be changed for your theme to fit, is killed. That says that her death would trigger the tornado, not the other way around. Now, had the vision occurred after saving the girl, then Chloe's theory would have some actual backing.

Max always saves Chloe with time powers and alters the timeline at least temporarily. There isn't a timeline where the girl dies and Max never finds out she has time powers. Max will always reach a point where a Tornado is about to wipe about Arcadia Bay and she has to make the decision on whether or not she lets it play out.

That sounds a hell of a lot like:
Darmik posted...

It's fine if you want to make your own theories behind why things happen the way they do into it but they aren't backed by anything in the game.

Sure I'm just talking about how I interpreted it. But that goes both ways.

*Minor LiS2 spoilers below*

Personally I don't really see anything in the game that implies the tornado is coming either way. If anything that seems outright contradicted by the Save Bay ending that shows a safe and normal Arcadia Bay during Chloe's funeral and the sequel that does not mention any massive tornadoes.

The game is overall pretty blatant about what you're choosing at the end. You either sacrifice Chloe or Arcadia Bay. There's no secret gotchas about either decision.

I mean it could easily be pointed out that there's no guarantee that the universe won't continue to be break if Chloe is saved but they just have to hope that the universe is happy with that cost and that Max will always be ready to protect her.

But again LiS2 seems to imply that everything is fine regardless of what is chosen.
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Blackstar110 posted...

I know people rave about this game, but I had such a hard time getting through the first couple chapters. The dialogue was just the fucking worst, sounded like it was written by a bunch of 60 year old dudes taking their best guess at what teenage girls talk like. Couldn't get into it.

I find it funny lol. My limited interaction with teenage girls though leaves me under the impression that its not very inaccurate, just a bit exaggerated >_>

VandorLee posted...

Chloe: My dad stinks!
Max: I can manipulate time.
Chloe: Lets do drugs and listen to music!

Chloe is a massive prick and its hilarious lol. I hated her at first but tbh I think her character arc is well done.
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