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lihlih 07/17/19 8:28:08 PM #1: |
AKA Dennising someone.
I think It is, but my gf thinks that it's the girls' fault for putting themselves in that situation. I'd like to know the public opinion on this, especially the females. Someone pls tag the females of the board. --- People come up to me... concerned.. that I'll reproduce." - Emo Philips ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Taily_Po 07/17/19 8:35:32 PM #2: |
idk, the way he describes it makes it sound like coercive rape. But you're right, we need female perspectives in this topic. The Matriarchy doesn't let men make these kinds of determinations.
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Johnny Eagle 07/17/19 8:42:03 PM #3: |
.............no idea what TC's referring to
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Cacciato 07/17/19 8:42:25 PM #4: |
Johnny Eagle posted...
.............no idea what TC's referring to The implication ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrMelodramatic 07/17/19 8:43:39 PM #5: |
yes. At best its coercive, and thats really not much better.
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LinkPizza 07/17/19 8:44:01 PM #6: |
Its just the implication. The girls arent in any danger...
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The Popo 07/17/19 8:45:41 PM #7: |
I had no idea what you meant until I realized Dennising was an Always Sunny reference. Get it completely now.
I wouldnt call it rape if the girl consents to it. The dude is an asshole and the girl made a bad decision, but that isnt rape. --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 07/17/19 8:46:31 PM #8: |
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Mead 07/17/19 8:51:11 PM #9: |
Its morally wrong at the very least
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lihlih 07/17/19 9:00:11 PM #10: |
Why isn't anyone tagging the females?! D:
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Muscles 07/17/19 9:02:38 PM #11: |
This is the internet, there are no females here
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LinkPizza 07/17/19 9:07:03 PM #12: |
lihlih posted...
Why isn't anyone tagging the females?! D: Well just let them tag themselves... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lihlih 07/17/19 9:12:41 PM #13: |
LinkPizza posted...
lihlih posted...Why isn't anyone tagging the females?! D: Jen and RC both hate me so they'll never enter my topic without being tagged by someone. --- People come up to me... concerned.. that I'll reproduce." - Emo Philips ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PMarth2002 07/17/19 9:15:56 PM #14: |
So as I understand it he's using the implication of being alone at sea so the girl believes she might be in danger of being raped in order for her to convince herself to sleep with him willingly.
... That is all kinds of fucked up. Even if he says he wouldn't actually rape the girl in the clip, I'd still be willing to call that rape. That's very predatory behavior and it sounds like the guy just wants to rape a girl and have plausible deniability. --- No matter where you go, there you are. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wolfy42 07/17/19 9:18:16 PM #15: |
LinkPizza posted...
lihlih posted...Why isn't anyone tagging the females?! D: And enjoy watching while they do it. --- We are 4 oreos from Heaven!!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ninja_lootz 07/17/19 9:19:08 PM #16: |
If all you're doing is inviting women to a boat ride and then propositioning them for sex, then I don't see what's wrong with that.
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wolfy42 07/17/19 9:20:10 PM #17: |
PMarth2002 posted...
So as I understand it he's using the implication of being alone at sea so the girl believes she might be in danger of being raped in order for her to convince herself to sleep with him willingly. If a girl is gonna go out to sea with some random guy she barely knows all alone, yeah, she probably wants to have sex with him or at least feels safe enough with him that she wouldn't worry about getting raped. Or he drugged her. --- We are 4 oreos from Heaven!!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PMarth2002 07/17/19 9:23:56 PM #18: |
wolfy42 posted...
If a girl is gonna go out to sea with some random guy she barely knows all alone, yeah, she probably wants to have sex with him or at least feels safe enough with him that she wouldn't worry about getting raped. In general I'd agree, but the way the dude in the videoclip posted was talking makes it sound awfully rapey. My response was based off that. --- No matter where you go, there you are. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboXgp89 07/17/19 9:25:09 PM #19: |
bill cosby would slipp women the sleeping pill
then he wouldn't let them leave to have sex but also probably because itd be dangerous to let them drive --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 07/17/19 9:41:11 PM #20: |
RoboXgp89 posted...
bill cosby would slipp women the sleeping pill I have no words --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 07/17/19 10:50:28 PM #21: |
If they are willing it isn't rape unless it's statutory rape.
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lihlih 07/17/19 11:15:07 PM #22: |
I'm not even talking about what happened in Sunny. Assholes do it all the time IRL. They'll try to get a girl alone where no one can hear them and shit and seem intimidating or w/e to show them the "implication".
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Mead 07/17/19 11:24:00 PM #23: |
wwinterj25 posted...
If they are willing it isn't rape unless it's statutory rape. Its really best to only have sex with someone that wants to have sex with you. --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rasmoh 07/17/19 11:24:56 PM #24: |
It's not rape, they're not in danger, they can say no if they want to.
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wwinterj25 07/17/19 11:34:06 PM #25: |
Mead posted...
Its really best to only have sex with someone that wants to have sex with you. Everyone has a price. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 07/17/19 11:36:14 PM #26: |
wwinterj25 posted...
Mead posted...Its really best to only have sex with someone that wants to have sex with you. Thats not really at odds with what I posted, but ok --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 07/17/19 11:37:42 PM #27: |
Mead posted...
Thats not really at odds with what I posted, but ok I mean said person probably doesn't want to fuck you but they do want the cash. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 07/17/19 11:48:26 PM #28: |
wwinterj25 posted...
Mead posted...Thats not really at odds with what I posted, but ok Well if they want the cash then they want to do it to get what they want even if they find you unappealing As opposed to someone reluctantly agreeing to sex because theyre afraid --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 07/17/19 11:50:54 PM #29: |
Mead posted...
Well if they want the cash then they want to do it to get what they want even if they find you unappealing We have different definitions of want. Still it amounts to the same thing I guess. They are willing regardless. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Taily_Po 07/17/19 11:56:06 PM #30: |
wwinterj25 posted...
Mead posted...Its really best to only have sex with someone that wants to have sex with you. Cool it there, Ted DiBiase. --- "If I were a ghost, this is certainly the kind of place I'd haunt." (\/)(\/)|-| ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_tall_midget 07/18/19 2:58:29 AM #31: |
Just be sure to always protect your bases, since they can eventually change their mind, 10+ years later and some idiots will believe anything they say.
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Mead 07/18/19 3:05:21 AM #32: |
In that case schmen I guess the only fair thing to do is come to conclusion that all rape allegations are a lie unless the woman had enough personal responsibility to set up a hidden camera
Or I dunno people could use common sense and listen to people, not necessarily believing either party at face value but creating an environment where actual victims can bring things to light without facing reprisals Cause a woman making false rape allegations is a horrible fucking thing. A lot of women have gone to prison for it as they well should have. But a lot more women get raped by guys that never face any kind of justice --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PMarth2002 07/18/19 3:15:39 AM #33: |
lihlih posted...
I'm not even talking about what happened in Sunny. Assholes do it all the time IRL. They'll try to get a girl alone where no one can hear them and shit and seem intimidating or w/e to show them the "implication". I would be very surprised if that's not some form of sexual assault. I wouldn't be surprised if that goes unreported the majority of the time though --- No matter where you go, there you are. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dioxxys 07/18/19 3:16:46 AM #34: |
I dont know how about you ask yourselves the same question? You know since....Men are not the only ones in command of the english language?
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RoboXgp89 07/18/19 3:41:37 AM #35: |
PMarth2002 posted...
lihlih posted...I'm not even talking about what happened in Sunny. Assholes do it all the time IRL. They'll try to get a girl alone where no one can hear them and shit and seem intimidating or w/e to show them the "implication". You'd be surprised if I told you it happens a majority of the time once with each person in some countries wouldnt you? --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_tall_midget 07/18/19 3:55:56 AM #36: |
Mead posted...
In that case schmen I guess the only fair thing to do is come to conclusion that all rape allegations are a lie unless the woman had enough personal responsibility to set up a hidden camera Innocent until proven guilty. Did they lie? Who knows. But until they prove something actually happened, their allegation is false. Simple, huh? Or I dunno people could use common sense and listen to people, not necessarily believing either party at face value but creating an environment where actual victims can bring things to light without facing reprisals There is already an environment where actual victims can come forward. I am amused of people claiming otherwise. The majority of people who don't come forward are those who are full of shit, as it should. Cause a woman making false rape allegations is a horrible fucking thing. A lot of women have gone to prison for it as they well should have. Yop. But a lot more women get raped by guys that never face any kind of justice Irrelevant. Both are crimes. Because one happens more often does not justify not pursuing the other. In all cases, innocent until proven guilty prevails. --- "There is no crisis at the border!" "The border crisis is manufactured!" "OMG! Look at that crisis at de border!" -Lol leftists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeetCheet 07/18/19 4:49:01 AM #37: |
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lihlih 07/18/19 8:49:03 AM #38: |
Bruhs, someone tag the females already. We really need some female perspective on the subject already.
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Cacciato 07/18/19 8:49:56 AM #39: |
Mead posted...
RoboXgp89 posted...bill cosby would slipp women the sleeping pill The actually tried to justify Bill Cosbys rapes. Holy shit. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_AdjI_ 07/18/19 10:12:27 AM #40: |
I'm still not entirely sure I understand the question, but if it's a matter of "We're all alone out here and I could totally rape you if I wanted to, so you should just consent so we don't have to go through all that unpleasantness," then I'd definitely call that rapey, if not necessarily qualifying for rape charges. It's pretty clearly using the thinly-veiled threat of forcible rape to coerce the person into non-forcible sex, and coercing people into sex is also bad.
Bottom line: If you're wondering if a scheme to convince a girl to sleep with you is rape or not, ask yourself if she'd be willing to sleep with you without the scheme. If the answer is anything other than a definite "yes," you probably shouldn't do it. Stick to sex where you are certain you have consent. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 07/18/19 10:19:47 AM #41: |
The always sunny scene is definitely rapey but a woman would have to be really dumb to put herself in a situation like that with a guy she barely knows
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wwinterj25 07/18/19 10:22:19 AM #42: |
Taily_Po posted...
Cool it there, Ted DiBiase. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JOExHIGASHI 07/18/19 10:25:41 AM #43: |
I prefer the MAC system
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OhhhJa 07/18/19 10:28:26 AM #44: |
JOExHIGASHI posted...
I prefer the MAC system It's all about Frank's system. Here for the scraps ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeetCheet 07/18/19 10:49:49 AM #45: |
_AdjI_ posted...
I'm still not entirely sure I understand the question, but if it's a matter of "We're all alone out here and I could totally rape you if I wanted to, so you should just consent so we don't have to go through all that unpleasantness," then I'd definitely call that rapey, if not necessarily qualifying for rape charges. It's pretty clearly using the thinly-veiled threat of forcible rape to coerce the person into non-forcible sex, and coercing people into sex is also bad. And if the roles were reversed, it wouldn't be nearly as bad because apparently men can't get taped. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EvilMegas 07/18/19 10:53:22 AM #46: |
Wtf is wrong with you all?
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wwinterj25 07/18/19 10:54:09 AM #47: |
EvilMegas posted...
Wtf is wrong with you all? Too many things to list man. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CTLM 07/18/19 10:58:15 AM #48: |
wwinterj25 posted...
If they are willing it isn't rape unless it's statutory rape. There's also mental defects and those under your custody ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 07/18/19 12:07:08 PM #49: |
CTLM posted...
There's also mental defects and those under your custody Are they willing? If they are not in control of your own mind then I'd say no. As for "under your custody" statutory rape probably covers that. Same as a teacher banging their student. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CTLM 07/18/19 1:01:36 PM #50: |
wwinterj25 posted...
CTLM posted...There's also mental defects and those under your custody A person is deemed incapable of consent when he or she is: (a) less than seventeen years old; or (b) mentally disabled; or (c) mentally incapacitated; or (d) physically helpless; or (e) committed to the care and custody or supervision of the state department of corrections and community supervision or a hospital ... Copied to Clipboard!
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