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pipebomb_phil
07/20/19 8:08:12 PM
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The lowest state Age of Consent in the United States is 16. This is the most common age of consent, and is adopted by Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, and West Virginia.

https://www.ageofconsent.net/highest-and-lowest

In some countries and states in the US, the age of consent is 16.

So, if I marry a girl that's 16 in one of those areas, is the marriage still legal in all of U.S. or whatever? Or how does that work?

And do I have to live in one of those states to start dating? For example, I can communicate with her via online where I live and when she's ready to date, I can date her in one of those states.
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DevilSummoner1
07/20/19 8:09:01 PM
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TheWitchMorgana
07/20/19 8:10:55 PM
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asking for a friend of course?
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pipebomb_phil
07/20/19 8:11:27 PM
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TheWitchMorgana posted...
asking for a friend of course?


No. I'm asking for myself.

It's fucking legal so why the fuck not?
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Mead
07/20/19 8:12:16 PM
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Half your age plus seven
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xjayguyx
07/20/19 8:12:28 PM
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DevilSummoner1 posted...
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Lokarin
07/20/19 8:18:00 PM
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What age can a person pass a turing test?

What is adulthood besides a number? Everyone ages at slightly different rates...

The cultural marks of adulthood seem to range on average between 16 and 25... but certainly there must be some authoritative mark of adulthood that is indisputable, right?
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TheWitchMorgana
07/20/19 8:18:16 PM
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in that case:

DevilSummoner1 posted...
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Zeus
07/20/19 8:18:23 PM
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pipebomb_phil posted...
And do I have to live in one of those states to start dating? For example, I can communicate with her via online where I live and when she's ready to date, I can date her in one of those states.


You'd have to check the laws in your state as well. If you're in a 17 AOC or 18 AOC state and you're making passes at a 16 y/o in a 16 AOC state, you might still be violating your state's laws. As a general rule, it's not even worth risking going after somebody under the age of 18 if you're over the age of 18.
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LinkPizza
07/20/19 8:30:18 PM
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I dont remember if this is true or not. But I think they said something about gay marriage once. Like, you can get married in the states where its legal, but it wouldnt be a legal marriage in the others states normally or something. So, maybe its similar for the AOC thing. Also, I think AOC is just for sex. But you can still date them. Though, thats a really grey area, I believe. Idk...
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blibber1
07/20/19 8:32:36 PM
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Stop eyeing those high school girls man....
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Nichtcrawler X
07/20/19 8:34:51 PM
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Zeus posted...
You'd have to check the laws in your state as well. If you're in a 17 AOC or 18 AOC state and you're making passes at a 16 y/o in a 16 AOC state, you might still be violating your state's laws. As a general rule, it's not even worth risking going after somebody under the age of 18 if you're over the age of 18.


Sex Tourism related laws exist for situations like that.

LinkPizza posted...
I dont remember if this is true or not. But I think they said something about gay marriage once. Like, you can get married in the states where its legal, but it wouldnt be a legal marriage in the others states normally or something. So, maybe its similar for the AOC thing. Also, I think AOC is just for sex. But you can still date them. Though, thats a really grey area, I believe. Idk...


It entirely depends what local laws state about marriages performed in other jurisdictions. Same with driving licenses and every kind of license granted by a government.
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dioxxys
07/20/19 9:07:41 PM
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Age of consent is actually just for sex .

To get married most states require you to be 18. However there is a minimum age at which you can get the consent of the parents to marry their son/daughter. This minium age is usually the age of consent but in some cases is as low as age fourteen.
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ThreatMidnight
07/20/19 9:11:18 PM
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I think the southern states had a lower marriage age at one point
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CarefreeDude
07/20/19 9:15:35 PM
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I recall in kansas at one point it was 14 with parental consent?

Also, similar question:

If a man with multiple wives from a country where it's legal moves to the US and becomes a citizen, is it still legal for him to have his multiple wives?
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DeathMagnetic80
07/20/19 9:17:44 PM
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Ok, so.... how old are you, TC?
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lihlih
07/20/19 9:32:18 PM
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dioxxys posted...
Age of consent is actually just for sex .

To get married most states require you to be 18. However there is a minimum age at which you can get the consent of the parents to marry their son/daughter. This minium age is usually the age of consent but in some cases is as low as age fourteen.


Just curious... once you marry someone under the AOC with parent consent, is it now legal for you to have sex with the minor assuming he or she gives consent?
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CTLM
07/20/19 10:06:37 PM
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CarefreeDude posted...
I recall in kansas at one point it was 14 with parental consent?

Also, similar question:

If a man with multiple wives from a country where it's legal moves to the US and becomes a citizen, is it still legal for him to have his multiple wives?


Technically still illegal but it's up to one of the wives to press charges.
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wwinterj25
07/20/19 10:50:16 PM
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I'd imagine whatever state you're in you abide by their laws. Although it is interesting to think that if I married a 16 year old in the UK our marriage would be void in certain states I'd imagine. Not that I have any desire to marry at all.
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dioxxys
07/21/19 6:09:31 AM
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lihlih posted...
dioxxys posted...
Age of consent is actually just for sex .

To get married most states require you to be 18. However there is a minimum age at which you can get the consent of the parents to marry their son/daughter. This minium age is usually the age of consent but in some cases is as low as age fourteen.


Just curious... once you marry someone under the AOC with parent consent, is it now legal for you to have sex with the minor assuming he or she gives consent?

I would assume so, if not that would probably cause some conflicting issues.

Example of someone today who was over 18 needed to marry a 14 year old to avoid going to jail was actually the grandfather on dick dynasty. I know people cringe at the thought of this and like to default to thinking it's always predatory but hey, they are still married to this day and are 70+ years old now so good for them.
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dioxxys
07/21/19 8:11:40 AM
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Sulugnaz posted...
This is a creepy fucking topic.

I mean if your intentions are a life long relationship I don't see the issue.
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_AdjI_
07/21/19 10:41:56 AM
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dioxxys posted...
Sulugnaz posted...
This is a creepy fucking topic.

I mean if your intentions are a life long relationship I don't see the issue.


If you're intending to enter a lifelong relationship with somebody who hasn't finished high school yet, that is itself an issue.
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LinkPizza
07/21/19 11:13:48 AM
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_AdjI_ posted...
dioxxys posted...
Sulugnaz posted...
This is a creepy fucking topic.

I mean if your intentions are a life long relationship I don't see the issue.


If you're intending to enter a lifelong relationship with somebody who hasn't finished high school yet, that is itself an issue.

What if they finished fast. Like skipped a few grades...
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
07/21/19 12:06:53 PM
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Guy I used to work with (in his early 20s) married a 15 year old from SC. Apparently 15 year olds could get married with their parents permission, though this is nearly 20 years ago so I don't know if that's still the case.

Needless to say, the marriage didn't last long.
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dedbus
07/21/19 12:21:58 PM
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Krazy_Kirby
07/21/19 12:59:17 PM
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what i find odd is sometimes minor's can be charged as an adult for their crimes, but still somehow be unable to consent to sex.

if a minor can be consodered an adult for some things, why not others?
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_AdjI_
07/21/19 1:16:54 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
dioxxys posted...
Sulugnaz posted...
This is a creepy fucking topic.

I mean if your intentions are a life long relationship I don't see the issue.


If you're intending to enter a lifelong relationship with somebody who hasn't finished high school yet, that is itself an issue.

What if they finished fast. Like skipped a few grades...


Then they're still going to be 16. At one level, the "age is just a number" philosophy has some merit, but when you're dealing with numbers that small, it's a number that's very strongly correlated with life experience and maturity. There are very, very few 16-year-olds out there that are mature enough that a healthy, reasonable adult should want to commit to a lifelong relationship to them, especially when you consider that marriage is typically preceded by a year or so of engagement and a couple years of dating (so that person was 13-14 when the relationship began). Exceptions exist, but it's not like waiting a couple years for the formality that is marriage is going to ruin those, especially when you consider that the whole "starting a family and running a household" thing that marriage's tax breaks are meant to facilitate isn't going to get started until after high school (one would hope).

More often than not, "I want to marry this 16-year-old" means "I want to pin this girl down with a kid and the commitment of marriage before she grows up and realizes she can do better than me," which is turbo-creepy. The exceptions that exist can work around the laws by simply waiting a year or two, which really isn't a big deal.
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_AdjI_
07/21/19 1:22:42 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
what i find odd is sometimes minor's can be charged as an adult for their crimes, but still somehow be unable to consent to sex.

if a minor can be consodered an adult for some things, why not others?


Because waiting a few years for the minor to commit the same crime again before administering the sentence that would have protected society is very, very different from waiting a few years to have sex. Charging a criminal as a minor is about protecting society. Preventing somebody from having sex with a minor is about protecting that minor.
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pedro45
07/21/19 1:36:20 PM
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Sulugnaz posted...
This is a creepy fucking topic.


How do you know? Maybe the tc is like 19 or something.

I know I had to think about it, in a sense, when I was dating in my early 20s, especially since I'd look young and girls would sometimes dress to look older.
It wasn't ever a problem as age comes up quick and usually that's where things stop.
I'm getting up to 30 and people finally see me as 21 which helps keep the young people from thinking I'm approachable.

So there ya go. It's not always about being a creep, but protecting yourself. Hell, young girls will lie about age but that's a different discussion.
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Mead
07/21/19 1:37:54 PM
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pedro45 posted...
Sulugnaz posted...
This is a creepy fucking topic.


How do you know? Maybe the tc is like 19 or something.

I know I had to think about it, in a sense, when I was dating in my early 20s, especially since I'd look young and girls would sometimes dress to look older.
It wasn't ever a problem as age comes up quick and usually that's where things stop.
I'm getting up to 30 and people finally see me as 21 which helps keep the young people from thinking I'm approachable.

So there ya go. It's not always about being a creep, but protecting yourself. Hell, young girls will lie about age but that's a different discussion.

Sulugnaz posted...
This is a creepy fucking topic.

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TheWitchMorgana
07/21/19 3:44:24 PM
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pedro45 posted...
How do you know? Maybe the tc is like 19 or something.

no he's definitely not lol
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LinkPizza
07/21/19 3:56:55 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
what i find odd is sometimes minor's can be charged as an adult for their crimes, but still somehow be unable to consent to sex.

if a minor can be consodered an adult for some things, why not others?


Because waiting a few years for the minor to commit the same crime again before administering the sentence that would have protected society is very, very different from waiting a few years to have sex. Charging a criminal as a minor is about protecting society. Preventing somebody from having sex with a minor is about protecting that minor.

Isnt it only protecting the minor in certain cases, though. I just ask because they are usually still having sex with each other. And can still consent to each other at a younger age. I mean, consent laws are just weird anyone. Not to mention, can change somewhat easily...
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_AdjI_
07/21/19 4:02:17 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
what i find odd is sometimes minor's can be charged as an adult for their crimes, but still somehow be unable to consent to sex.

if a minor can be consodered an adult for some things, why not others?


Because waiting a few years for the minor to commit the same crime again before administering the sentence that would have protected society is very, very different from waiting a few years to have sex. Charging a criminal as a minor is about protecting society. Preventing somebody from having sex with a minor is about protecting that minor.

Isnt it only protecting the minor in certain cases, though. I just ask because they are usually still having sex with each other. And can still consent to each other at a younger age. I mean, consent laws are just weird anyone. Not to mention, can change somewhat easily...


The fact of the matter is that having sex requires a risk assessment. Maturity helps make that assessment, so when an adult has sex with a minor, there's a power imbalance there, and power imbalances always make a mess of consent issues.
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SkynyrdRocker
07/21/19 6:47:06 PM
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DevilSummoner1 posted...
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pipebomb_phil
07/21/19 6:51:49 PM
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Its legal in many states in the US.

I don't care what anyone says.

I'm gonna save up some money and fly to Japan and get me a young and legal Japanese gf. (Yeah, I can go to a different state, but I've always wanted to go to Japan anyways)
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Nichtcrawler X
07/21/19 6:52:51 PM
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Again, better check sex tourism laws about that.

Edit: a quick Wikipedia check suggests the PROTECT Act of 2003 might be relevant to you, @pipebomb_phil.
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wwinterj25
07/21/19 9:26:18 PM
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Sulugnaz posted...
This is a creepy fucking topic.

I don't think this topic is about fucking though.
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_AdjI_
07/21/19 9:59:25 PM
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pipebomb_phil posted...
Its legal in many states in the US.

I don't care what anyone says.

I'm gonna save up some money and fly to Japan and get me a young and legal Japanese gf. (Yeah, I can go to a different state, but I've always wanted to go to Japan anyways)


Meeting and falling in love with somebody who happens to be a minor: Questionable, but potentially legitimate, provided they're mature enough to handle such a relationship.

Traveling to a country with a lower age of consent specifically for the purpose of finding a minor who is willing to sleep with you: It's hard to get creepier than that.
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Mead
07/21/19 10:03:26 PM
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pipebomb_phil posted...
Its legal in many states in the US.

I don't care what anyone says.

I'm gonna save up some money and fly to Japan and get me a young and legal Japanese gf. (Yeah, I can go to a different state, but I've always wanted to go to Japan anyways)


What is some attractive japanese girl gonna want with you?
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Bugmeat
07/21/19 10:28:57 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...
Traveling to a country with a lower age of consent specifically for the purpose of finding a minor who is willing to sleep with you: It's hard to get creepier than that.

It's actually illegal here in the U.S. We have laws that specifically address the issue of sex tourism. You can be prosecuted for it when you return here.


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_AdjI_
07/21/19 10:35:06 PM
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Bugmeat posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
Traveling to a country with a lower age of consent specifically for the purpose of finding a minor who is willing to sleep with you: It's hard to get creepier than that.

It's actually illegal here in the U.S. We have laws that specifically address the issue of sex tourism. You can be prosecuted for it when you return here.


That too, but I'm content to stop considering the matter after recognizing the extreme creepiness, rather than bothering to consider its legality.
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TheWitchMorgana
07/21/19 11:56:19 PM
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SkynyrdRocker posted...
DevilSummoner1 posted...
bruh

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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
07/22/19 1:03:07 AM
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Mead posted...
pipebomb_phil posted...
Its legal in many states in the US.

I don't care what anyone says.

I'm gonna save up some money and fly to Japan and get me a young and legal Japanese gf. (Yeah, I can go to a different state, but I've always wanted to go to Japan anyways)


What is some attractive japanese girl gonna want with you?

TC will probably end up hitting on some Yakuza guy's kid sister and that'll be all she wrote.
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Xfma100
07/22/19 2:17:07 AM
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pipebomb_phil posted...
Its legal in many states in the US.

I don't care what anyone says.

I'm gonna save up some money and fly to Japan and get me a young and legal Japanese gf. (Yeah, I can go to a different state, but I've always wanted to go to Japan anyways)


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SkynyrdRocker posted...
DevilSummoner1 posted...
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Mead
07/22/19 2:22:54 AM
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What if tc is the bagel boss guy
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miki_sauvester
07/22/19 3:21:16 AM
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I mean Im married to someone 14 years younger than me. The US laws on marriage are unique in the world.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
07/22/19 3:44:27 AM
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miki_sauvester posted...
I mean Im married to someone 14 years younger than me. The US laws on marriage are unique in the world.

But were you 30 marrying a 16 year old.
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