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Full Throttle
07/23/19 10:02:10 PM
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Do you support kicking people off food stamps because of a "strong economy" where they can get jobs to pay for their own food? - Results (0 votes)
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The Racist Administration will propose a new rule to tighten food stamp restrictions that will cut out 3.1 MILLION people off the program as he wants poor people to PROVE they can't afford food as this will save 15 BILLION from the budget where Trump is finding ways to save money to pay for his massive spending programs after his massive tax cut to the rich!!

43 States allow residents to be automatically eligible for food stamps through the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program where they receive benefits from the federal program known as Temporary Assistance for Needy Families

They want people who receive benefits to pass a REVIEW of their own income and assets to determine if they really need it

This would save the gov't, 2.5 billion a year by removing people from SNAP

He said that people don't need this anymore because of a STRONG ECONOMY and low unemployment and thinkt hey should be able to get a good JOB to pay for their own food.

USDA Secretary Sonny Perdue said "Some states are taking advantage of loopholes that allow people to receive SNAP Benefits who would otherwise not quality and not entitled"

Nancy Pelosi SLAMMED the move as "callousness" and that the "administrations latest act of staggering callouneness would steal food off the table of working families and hungry children and dismantle proven pathways out of poverty for millions. This proposal perfectly showcases the Republicans' cynical special interest agenda that gives billion dollar handouts to big corporations and the wealthy few and steals from children, veterans, seniors and working families to make up the difference"

A Trump backed effort failed to pass through Congress last year but this one doesn't need approval to stop states from automatically allowing recipients of TANF benefits to become eligible for SNAP

Do you support kicking people off food stamps because of a "strong economy" where they can get jobs to pay for their own food?

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TheBlueMonk_
07/23/19 10:04:15 PM
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Poor people have had it too good for too long!!!
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LastTomorrow
07/23/19 10:04:46 PM
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They will still support him
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ScazarMeltex
07/23/19 10:04:52 PM
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If he was worried about the budget he shouldn't have cut taxes. This has been the GOP gameplan all along though. Cut taxes while claiming it creates revenue through growth. When it doesn't, use it to justify cutting programs that help poor people.
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ButteryMales
07/23/19 10:07:50 PM
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The plan is to cut food stamps, cut Medicaid, get rid of the minimum wage, go ancap and then just hope with all our might that trickle down will finally kick in.
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SauI_Goodman
07/23/19 10:08:53 PM
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Of course they do an article where the person on food stamps has a stereotypical food stampish tattoo behind the ear.
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GioUrshela
07/23/19 10:08:56 PM
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Unemployment is at record lows though. There are no jobs available.
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Cheater87
07/23/19 10:09:10 PM
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I bet a lot of them will still sadly vote for him.

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Ving_Rhames
07/23/19 10:09:23 PM
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A lot of his supporters use food stamps, this will in no way deter them from voting against their own best interests yet again lol
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kingdrake2
07/23/19 10:10:51 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
If he was worried about the budget he shouldn't have cut taxes. This has been the GOP gameplan all along though. Cut taxes while claiming it creates revenue through growth. When it doesn't, use it to justify cutting programs that help poor people.


government had to cut something. this is a minor loss those tax cuts add up.
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darkstar4221
07/23/19 10:36:09 PM
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Donald Trump is increasing the budget again. He's decreasing support for food stamps while increasing military spending and spending for social security.

https://thehill.com/homenews/morning-report/454245-the-hills-morning-report
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TheMikh
07/23/19 10:55:28 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
The plan is to cut food stamps, cut Medicaid, get rid of the minimum wage, go ancap and then just hope with all our might that trickle down will finally kick in.

ancap is incompatible with trickle down
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FFVII_REMAKE
07/23/19 10:57:18 PM
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You can go to the projects and see thousands of able bodied people that are clearly able to work but can't because they won't pass the drug test (aka weed)
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ButteryMales
07/23/19 11:18:09 PM
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TheMikh posted...
ButteryMales posted...
The plan is to cut food stamps, cut Medicaid, get rid of the minimum wage, go ancap and then just hope with all our might that trickle down will finally kick in.

ancap is incompatible with trickle down

Nothing is compatible with Anarcho Capitalism. It's just moronic.
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Axiom
07/23/19 11:30:07 PM
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Of course this silver spoon piece of shit doesn't realize that even having a job at times isn't enough for some people and they need food stamps to supplement it
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Bishop9800
07/23/19 11:31:02 PM
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FFVII_REMAKE posted...
You can go to the projects and see thousands of able bodied people that are clearly able to work but can't because they won't pass the drug test (aka weed)


why go to the projects? there's plenty of able bodied people in the trailer parks that are clearly able to work but can't because they won't pass the drug test (aka meth)
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lincoln002
07/23/19 11:31:32 PM
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This is terrible. Absolutely criminal.
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Forever_Black
07/23/19 11:33:19 PM
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Great news
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muchdran
07/23/19 11:35:35 PM
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Well there's full throttle once again putting his pathetic spin on it. Getting ce mad.
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008Zulu
07/23/19 11:57:55 PM
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LastTomorrow posted...
They will still support him

Even with their last, starving, breath.
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Pitlord_Special
07/24/19 12:08:51 AM
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Let them eat bootstraps
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-Unowninator-
07/24/19 12:14:12 AM
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God fucking damnit! I use foodstamps. I wish Donald T. would pay for his tyranny already.
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kingdrake2
07/24/19 12:49:07 AM
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-Unowninator- posted...
God fucking damnit! I use foodstamps. I wish Donald T. would pay for his tyranny already.


he's only targeting people who use TANF. completely safe until they start chopping off more.
if i lost i'll get by but it will be way harder.
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TheMikh
07/24/19 1:09:53 AM
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ButteryMales posted...
TheMikh posted...
ButteryMales posted...
The plan is to cut food stamps, cut Medicaid, get rid of the minimum wage, go ancap and then just hope with all our might that trickle down will finally kick in.

ancap is incompatible with trickle down

Nothing is compatible with Anarcho Capitalism. It's just moronic.

i'd elaborate on my point but it seems like you've taken a fixed stance and discussion on the matter is not worth anyone's time

what i will say is that left-anarchism, mutualism, and right-anarchism only really differ based on two variables: the nature of property, and what constitutes legitimate force

if ancap - and the variety of different models under its umbrella - is moronic, then anarchism as a whole is - and i don't entirely buy that
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gguirao
07/24/19 4:24:07 AM
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Even people working full time are having a hard time making ends meet. What does Trump know about the struggles of common people, anyway?
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008Zulu
07/24/19 5:33:46 AM
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gguirao posted...
Even people working full time are having a hard time making ends meet. What does Trump know about the struggles of common people, anyway?

He has deported enough of them.
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Lonestar2000
07/24/19 5:46:32 AM
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Fuck Trump.
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MI4 REAL
07/24/19 6:22:27 AM
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gguirao posted...
Even people working full time are having a hard time making ends meet. What does Trump know about the struggles of common people, anyway?


And often with 2 jobs. Sometimes even 3.
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Big_Gold
07/24/19 6:37:46 AM
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But...

https://qz.com/1297561/the-dazzling-us-unemployment-rate-is-blinding-americans-to-a-much-darker-reality/

Trump himself used to complain about just this issue. Bashing the official unemployment stat was one of his bigger campaign trail themes. Back in June 2015, he made this remark about the official unemployment rate (which was then 5.5%): Our labor participation rate was the worst since 1978. Our real unemployment is anywhere from 18 to 20%. Dont believe the 5.6. Dont believe it. Thats right. A lot of people out there cant get jobs. And in May 2016: You hear a 5% unemployment rate. Its such a phony number. That number was put in for presidents and for politicians so that they look good to the people. A month after his victory in the US presidential elections, he was still sticking to his guns: The unemployment number, as you know, is totally fiction.
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Lordgold666
07/24/19 6:42:09 AM
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Lol @ the person using food stamps having a neck tattoo
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gunplagirl
07/24/19 6:50:54 AM
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There are more than a few reasons people might be better off on food stamps than working.

Child care and needing flexible hours that even part time jobs might not be able to offer. More than a few regions of the US (predominately black areas of the South especially) don't have public transportation that would allow them to head across town to work, and the costs of travel would add up so much that after taxes and travel costs, they'd end up with less money. Oh, but also since they're earning money they suddenly might be unable to qualify for their insurance, and as a part time worker they won't qualify for employer insurance.
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MI4 REAL
07/24/19 7:01:50 AM
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Especially with the destruction of the 1-income family.
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pogo_rabid
07/24/19 7:04:27 AM
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This reminds me when Obama cut unemployment insurance times in half.
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07/24/19 7:06:03 AM
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pikachupwnage
07/24/19 7:22:25 AM
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Big_Gold posted...
But...

https://qz.com/1297561/the-dazzling-us-unemployment-rate-is-blinding-americans-to-a-much-darker-reality/

Trump himself used to complain about just this issue. Bashing the official unemployment stat was one of his bigger campaign trail themes. Back in June 2015, he made this remark about the official unemployment rate (which was then 5.5%): Our labor participation rate was the worst since 1978. Our real unemployment is anywhere from 18 to 20%. Dont believe the 5.6. Dont believe it. Thats right. A lot of people out there cant get jobs. And in May 2016: You hear a 5% unemployment rate. Its such a phony number. That number was put in for presidents and for politicians so that they look good to the people. A month after his victory in the US presidential elections, he was still sticking to his guns: The unemployment number, as you know, is totally fiction.


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07/24/19 7:24:51 PM
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most say no
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Notti
07/26/19 6:43:47 AM
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gguirao posted...
Even people working full time are having a hard time making ends meet. What does Trump know about the struggles of common people, anyway?


Trump thinks going to the supermarket you need an ID.
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0xDEFECADE
07/26/19 6:45:11 AM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
A lot of his supporters use food stamps, this will in no way deter them from voting against their own best interests yet again lol

it won't because they're too locked into the delusion Trump gives a shit about them
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Evening_Dragon
07/26/19 6:56:34 AM
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Somehow I feel some inkling of guilt for accidentally voting yes in this poll.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/food-assistance/most-working-age-snap-participants-work-but-often-in-unstable-jobs

Most of the able people on food stamps actually do work, also.
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treewojima
07/26/19 6:57:40 AM
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TheMikh posted...
ButteryMales posted...
TheMikh posted...
ButteryMales posted...
The plan is to cut food stamps, cut Medicaid, get rid of the minimum wage, go ancap and then just hope with all our might that trickle down will finally kick in.

ancap is incompatible with trickle down

Nothing is compatible with Anarcho Capitalism. It's just moronic.

i'd elaborate on my point but it seems like you've taken a fixed stance and discussion on the matter is not worth anyone's time

what i will say is that left-anarchism, mutualism, and right-anarchism only really differ based on two variables: the nature of property, and what constitutes legitimate force

if ancap - and the variety of different models under its umbrella - is moronic, then anarchism as a whole is - and i don't entirely buy that


left anarchism also focuses on dismantling or flattening vertical hierarchy as much as possible, and they view any sort of free market capitalist system as an economic hierarchy (that could fall under the umbrella of "legitimate use of force"). in my experience ancaps tend to focus much more on the NAP, in that you can basically do whatever as long as it's free association and you're not causing harm to others

I personally agree that unregulated capitalism leads to hierarchies as wealth accumulates, so I find it almost completely incompatible with more traditional anarchist philosophy - not to mention the whole "property is theft" thing, that's kind of a roadblock lol
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twitterfriends
07/26/19 7:45:45 AM
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Hell be fucking over the Red States and poor white peoples then he is Democrats so thats why really wont do it, its just rhetoric to rally the Republicans (yes they think it doesnt really count when theyre on food stamps),
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littlebro07
07/26/19 8:06:42 AM
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Most of the Trump supporters I know are on food stamps.

Yet they'll probably still vote for him because he has an R by his name
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LinkAndEpona462
07/26/19 9:05:34 AM
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Odd how people think it's mostly his voters that will be hit. That's an offensive generalization.
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Inferno Dive Dragoon
07/26/19 9:08:35 AM
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What jobs? I've been trying to find one for nearly 20 years, there's literally nothing out there.
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Balrog0
07/26/19 9:25:35 AM
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SNAP has work requirements already
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CheekSqueak
07/26/19 9:30:24 AM
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Bishop9800 posted...
FFVII_REMAKE posted...
You can go to the projects and see thousands of able bodied people that are clearly able to work but can't because they won't pass the drug test (aka weed)


why go to the projects? there's plenty of able bodied people in the trailer parks that are clearly able to work but can't because they won't pass the drug test (aka meth)

damn really took that personally huh?

drug test are easy as hell to pass these days even if you're dirty. though i can only condone needing to do so because of weed. anything else and you're probably not gonna last long anywhere anyway

there are definitely people abusing food stamps but he's only doing this to get money for stupid shit.

Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
What jobs? I've been trying to find one for nearly 20 years, there's literally nothing out there.

bullshit.
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Jagr_68
07/26/19 9:33:24 AM
#47:


Balrog0 posted...
SNAP has work requirements already


See I'd rather the government restructure or revamp this aspect rather than remove it altogether because there are so many jobs out there with shit wages just above the max amount of income required which disqualifies a huge proportion of people. So if there's like a hundred dollar difference by technicality, those folks are still having a really hard time making ends meet while paying for food out of pocket.
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EndOfDiscOne
07/26/19 9:37:46 AM
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Full Throttle posted...
They want people who receive benefits to pass a REVIEW of their own income and assets to determine if they really need it

Fair next?
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littlebro07
07/26/19 9:39:33 AM
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Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
What jobs? I've been trying to find one for nearly 20 years, there's literally nothing out there.


There's tons of jobs, just not a whole lot that would allow people to support themselves so they gotta take two or three of them instead.
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Balrog0
07/26/19 9:40:12 AM
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Jagr_68 posted...
See I'd rather the government restructure or revamp this aspect rather than remove it altogether because there are so many jobs out there with shit wages just above the max amount of income required which disqualifies a huge proportion of people. So if there's like a hundred dollar difference by technicality, those folks are still having a really hard time making ends meet while paying for food out of pocket.


The thing is, they are. It started under Obama

https://snaptoskills.fns.usda.gov/about-snap-skills
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