Current Events > Mario Lopez says it is dangerous for parents to support transgender kids

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_Rinku_ posted...

FrozenXylophone posted...

What if 3 year old wants to skip supper and eat just ice cream?
Also not get shots at dr.office.

Gender affirmation is important for their mental health.

A balanced diet and medication are important for their physical health.

That is a different argument.
Saying a 3 year old has a choice over their own body is lmfao.

Honestly it's pretty foolish for any public figure who doesn't have any expertise on the subject to speak on this. He's entitled to his opinion, but that's all it is. I don't really fault him for speaking honestly here, but it probably would have been better to not say anything.

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FrozenXylophone posted...

That is a different argument.
Saying a 3 year old has a choice over their own body is lmfao.

By all means, a parent should make choices for their child that are for their own good (such as making them eat a healthy dinner instead of just eating ice cream), but it is extremely narcissistic to say that a child has no choice over their own body. No good parent would make such a blanket statement.

Why do you care so much if a three year old wants to wear a dress?

Jiek_Fafn posted...

I dont trust 3 year olds to properly communicate that they have shit in their pants. How are people even pulling complex issues like feelings of gender dysmorphia out of them?

I'm not saying they dont have them. I'm just curious how the fuck you get such a small child to communicate on that level.

I feel that's an extreme example that Lopez has presented. And I also have the image of celebrities just laying clothes and toys on the bed and them picking whatever. Which isn't really transgender or gender dysphoria, just the freedom of gender expression.

And no one [sane] is out here transitioning their kids at early elementary school age. But kids are aware or starting to be aware of being a boy or girl at that age.
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_Rinku_ posted...

Drasilor posted...

Sooo like how this trans kid parents let him dance for a bunch of dudes for money?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=majcQ54vlDs" data-time="

See point 3, but only respond if you want to have a sincere discussion.

That user is no longer capable of responding to... well... anything.
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fusespliff posted...

Translation: I now fear sharing my opinion in order to cling to the last shred of my celebrity status

lol right? What a coward.

_Rinku_ posted...

FrozenXylophone posted...

That is a different argument.
Saying a 3 year old has a choice over their own body is lmfao.

By all means, a parent should make choices for their child that are for their own good (such as making them eat a healthy dinner instead of just eating ice cream), but it is extremely narcissistic to say that a child has no choice over their own body. No good parent would make such a blanket statement.

Why do you care so much if a three year old wants to wear a dress?

I shared this article and questioned a person claiming it is about bodily autonomy.

You suggested it was about mental health but are upset that I questioned the logic of bodily autonomy.

Explain exactly what choices a 3 year makes over their own body.
Is wearing a dress the only one you can think of?

Who cares what the default hotel television station man has to say?

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FrozenXylophone posted...

I shared this article and questioned a person claiming it is about bodily autonomy.

You suggested it was about mental health but are upset that I questioned the logic of bodily autonomy.

Explain exactly what choices a 3 year makes over their own body.
Is wearing a dress the only one you can think of?

You are just babbling unconnected nonsense at this point. Gender affirmation can be about mental health and bodily autonomy.

The clothes they wear. Who touches their body. Whose bodies they touch. There are lots of ways a child can make choices about their bodies that should be respected.

_Rinku_ posted...

The clothes they wear. Who touches their body. Whose bodies they touch. There are lots of ways a child can make choices about their bodies that should be respected.

I asked of wearing a dress was the only bodily autonomy a 3 year old had and you respond with that they can choose their clothes lmao...
And who to touch.

So basically they don't have autonomy.
Who to touch is a great example because kids love to walk up to random people.
Most parents won't let them touch an absolute stranger unless they are in a nice area, look nice and honsestly look like them.

On issue of dress, they put on a coat in the middle of summer.

So.
Lots of ways you say.

Name them all.

FrozenXylophone posted...

I asked of wearing a dress was the only bodily autonomy a 3 year old had and you respond with that they can choose their clothes lmao...
And who to touch.

So basically they don't have autonomy.
Who to touch is a great example because kids love to walk up to random people.
Most parents won't let them touch an absolute stranger unless they are in a nice area, look nice and honsestly look like them.

On issue of dress, they put on a coat in the middle of summer.

So.
Lots of ways you say.

Name them all.

You are not making any attempt to have a sincere and thoughtful discussion. You are being obtuse. There are an infinite number of ways; I'm not going to waste my time listing them or talking to a wall.

_Rinku_ posted...

FrozenXylophone posted...

I asked of wearing a dress was the only bodily autonomy a 3 year old had and you respond with that they can choose their clothes lmao...
And who to touch.

So basically they don't have autonomy.
Who to touch is a great example because kids love to walk up to random people.
Most parents won't let them touch an absolute stranger unless they are in a nice area, look nice and honsestly look like them.

On issue of dress, they put on a coat in the middle of summer.

So.
Lots of ways you say.

Name them all.

You are not making any attempt to have a sincere and thoughtful discussion. You are being obtuse. There are an infinite number of ways; I'm not going to waste my time listing them or talking to a wall.

Excuse me.

You tried to start an argument with me about mental health when a comment was not directed to you but to a poster who claimed a 3 year old has choice over their own body.

Funny that I never said it wasn't a mental health need yet you continue to act like that had relevance.

Yet you have failed your argument so painfully you must now resort to calling me obtuse and saying I was not sincere.

All because you made a false claim and it beyond you to lose an argument.

Your own words claimed a 3 year old had lots of way showing their bodily autonomy.

List them.
Should be easy.

But I suspect you never thought that far ahead and were hoping I would just believe you.

when I said, "what a nerd", I was referring to Mario Lopez, lol.
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FrozenXylophone posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

FrozenXylophone posted...

I asked of wearing a dress was the only bodily autonomy a 3 year old had and you respond with that they can choose their clothes lmao...
And who to touch.

So basically they don't have autonomy.
Who to touch is a great example because kids love to walk up to random people.
Most parents won't let them touch an absolute stranger unless they are in a nice area, look nice and honsestly look like them.

On issue of dress, they put on a coat in the middle of summer.

So.
Lots of ways you say.

Name them all.

You are not making any attempt to have a sincere and thoughtful discussion. You are being obtuse. There are an infinite number of ways; I'm not going to waste my time listing them or talking to a wall.

Excuse me.

You tried to start an argument with me about mental health when a comment was not directed to you but to a poster who claimed a 3 year old has choice over their own body.

Funny that I never said it wasn't a mental health need yet you continue to act like that had relevance.

Yet you have failed your argument so painfully you must now resort to calling me obtuse and saying I was not sincere.

All because you made a false claim and it beyond you to lose an argument.

Your own words claimed a 3 year old had lots of way showing their bodily autonomy.

List them.
Should be easy.

But I suspect you never thought that far ahead and were hoping I would just believe you.

Jesus I thought this was an UnfairRepresent post before seeing the username

I'm kind of skeptical of any child that claims to identify as a different gender. I do think children experience gender roles at an early age and I think their claims of transgenderism are really a response to societal pressures.

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I agree with Slater.
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boxington posted...

when I said, "what a nerd", I was referring to Mario Lopez, lol.

Did you get modded?

yea, because they thought that I was flaming a person in the topic
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Jiek_Fafn posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

Jiek_Fafn posted...

I dont trust 3 year olds to properly communicate that they have shit in their pants. How are people even pulling complex issues like feelings of gender dysmorphia out of them?

I'm not saying they dont have them. I'm just curious how the fuck you get such a small child to communicate on that level.

Have you tried talking to a kid? Or an adult transgender person? A lot of them knew when they were young that something was up. Young children may not be able to articulate that in the most sophisticated way, but that doesn't invalidate the way they feel. Nothing permanent is being done in regards to the transition of a child; it's all social presentation that can be reversed.

My problem is that I have been around kids. I can legit smell their shit and then ask them if they shit their pants. They will either respond with yes, no or idk. Any of those can come across their lips with the child full on believing it and yet still theres shit.

That's where my confusion comes in. 3 year olds are terrible communicators so it's hard to diagnose anything. Like where does one even begin reliably questioning such a small child about gender dysmorphia? I'm legit curious about this process, not that 3 year olds have the feelings in the first place. That much I believe.

Comparing gender identity to defecation, wow

Translation: I have no idea how the fuck a three year old can tell you theyre trans, but they definitely can, but Im at a complete loss and losing badly so let me try to sidetrack you.
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A person at the age of 3 would not have the cognitive capacity to understand the difference between sex and gender.
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I agree with him
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Lebronwon posted...

I been binging Zack Morris Is Trash. Looks like AC Slater is trash too.

You think a three year old should decide their gender? Have you ever met a three year old?

I know this isn't really any indication of anything but I follow a few meme accounts on instagram and occasionally they'll post "edgy" stuff. Due to mario lopez being verified or a high follower count whatever algorithm instagram uses will pin his comment to be visable. He's almost always laughing or agreeing with some questionable content ive seen posted, i'm actually pretty surprised it's taken this long for him to come out against this stuff given some of the iffy things ive seen him lol at

I read the OP, Where does he say the "controversial" comments?
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chocolatemuffin posted...

I know this isn't really any indication of anything but I follow a few meme accounts on instagram and occasionally they'll post "edgy" stuff. Due to mario lopez being verified or a high follower count whatever algorithm instagram uses will pin his comment to be visable. He's almost always laughing or agreeing with some questionable content ive seen posted, i'm actually pretty surprised it's taken this long for him to come out against this stuff given some of the iffy things ive seen him lol at

He loves you guy's memes?

Jiek_Fafn posted...

I dont trust 3 year olds to properly communicate that they have shit in their pants. How are people even pulling complex issues like feelings of gender dysmorphia out of them?

_Squirtle_ posted...

He said nothing that should be controversial

but then he backtracked like a bitch.
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He's right and shouldn't apologized.

And kids aren't supposed to get what they want. That's called being a bad parent.
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CheekSqueak posted...

Jiek_Fafn posted...

I dont trust 3 year olds to properly communicate that they have shit in their pants. How are people even pulling complex issues like feelings of gender dysmorphia out of them?

_Squirtle_ posted...

He said nothing that should be controversial

but then he backtracked like a bitch.

Blame political correctness for that.

CarrieChan posted...

CheekSqueak posted...

Jiek_Fafn posted...

I dont trust 3 year olds to properly communicate that they have shit in their pants. How are people even pulling complex issues like feelings of gender dysmorphia out of them?

_Squirtle_ posted...

He said nothing that should be controversial

but then he backtracked like a bitch.

Blame political correctness for that.

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I don't think CE will ever understand trans issues.

I hope Mario was sincere in backtracking his shit, maybe he actually educated himself and changed his position. But reactionaries won't be able to empathize with that, so it's gotta be the damn radical left censoring a celebrity
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Blue_Dream87 posted...

I don't think CE will ever understand trans issues.

I hope Mario was sincere in backtracking his shit, maybe he actually educated himself and changed his position. But reactionaries won't be able to empathize with that, so it's gotta be the damn radical left censoring a celebrity

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My problem with the adult transgenders knew at a young age is the possibility of a biased sample.

A more interesting look would be at a wide sample of kids who first express these ideas and seeing how they develop, and how many maintain these feelings into adulthood.

And seeing how these feelings develop in kids where parents take a relatively hands off approach with that subject, where they promote and encourage it, and where they discourage it.
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iPhone_7 posted...

Its important for transgender people to be able to transition as soon as possible. Their body their choice.

Drasilor posted...

Sooo like how this trans kid parents let him dance for a bunch of dudes for money?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=majcQ54vlDs" data-time="

Yas queen work it slay
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssss

Are you implying that a 3 year old child understands what it means to be transgender?
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FrozenXylophone posted...

"Im kind of blown away, too, Lopez responded. Im never one to tell anyone how to parent their kids, obviously, and I think if you come from a place of love, you really cant go wrong, but at the same time, my God, if you're 3 years old and youre saying youre feeling a certain way or you think youre a boy or a girl or whatever the case may be, I just think it's dangerous as a parent to make that determination."

It's sort of alarming, and my gosh, I just think about the repercussions later on, he continued.

Why is it dangerous and what are the repercussions?
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TheoryzC posted...

FrozenXylophone posted...

"Im kind of blown away, too, Lopez responded. Im never one to tell anyone how to parent their kids, obviously, and I think if you come from a place of love, you really cant go wrong, but at the same time, my God, if you're 3 years old and youre saying youre feeling a certain way or you think youre a boy or a girl or whatever the case may be, I just think it's dangerous as a parent to make that determination."

It's sort of alarming, and my gosh, I just think about the repercussions later on, he continued.

Why is it dangerous and what are the repercussions?

If you think about giving hormones there are insane repercussions.

If you go through a phase where you are just playing around with more feminine things but your parents come back with "you literally are a girl" and because you parents are god to a child you internalize that you could be really messed up too.

That's why it becomes such a mess to have boy/girl be an identity thing. Just let the kids play around with feminine or masculine things if they want, but having kids not have gender connected to biological sex is just going to confuse kids, it confuses a lot of adults.

I'm going to be super honest, I don't get it. I get people behaving on a spectrum, but I don't get the logic of you can identify as a different gender and that is supposedly literal reality, if you can't also identify as a different age, or a different race or any other thing that would let a person feel much better psychologically.

Like if "gender identity" is how you choose to behave and think of yourself, that's fine, but if it's supposed to be what you literally are, then gender has no connection to biological sex, which seems to make the concept pretty pointless.
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CarrieChan posted...

CheekSqueak posted...

Jiek_Fafn posted...

I dont trust 3 year olds to properly communicate that they have shit in their pants. How are people even pulling complex issues like feelings of gender dysmorphia out of them?

_Squirtle_ posted...

He said nothing that should be controversial

but then he backtracked like a bitch.

Blame political correctness for that.

mmhm. i worry about the next generation being raised by some of the people in this topic.
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I don't believe he was speaking from malice. Just from ignorance.

Of course, speaking ignorantly is still not a good idea. Like... at all.

Also, maybe think twice before agreeing to an interview with noted shitheel Candace Owens.
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