Board 8 > Fire Emblem: Three Houses: Too early for Edelgard for smash train?

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masterplum
08/12/19 10:54:03 PM
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SantaRPidgey
08/12/19 10:57:59 PM
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WhiteLens posted...
Calling it now, the DLC characters are gonna be the Fire Emblem Heroes and Warriors originals so they can be in a proper FE game.


I would be totes cool with Muspell High School fire emblem. Plus Alphonse is one of the better FE lords
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masterplum
08/12/19 11:00:37 PM
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I think this was the first FE game Ive beaten since sacred stones.

Rewinding time made battles so much more enjoyable, not because they were easier but you didnt have to spend 15 minutes every move making 100% sure nobody was going to die. If you accidentally missed a vantage ability or something silly you could just oops backwards.


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LapisLazuli
08/12/19 11:01:53 PM
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LapisLazuli
08/12/19 11:04:57 PM
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Wooooow you get way more post dance if you get your house leader to meet up with you.

Dorothea never said what's up and left. This has voiced new cutscenes with Dimitri.
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Underleveled
08/12/19 11:05:03 PM
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Even pre-release, Edelgard looked like a good choice for Smash because she was an axe-user, of which Smash has none in the traditional sense (a few characters have an axe in their arsenal, but not as their primary weapon). Now that she is the most popular character in a game that is heavily trending, they'd be foolish not to include her.

BUT, and I've said this all along, I dont think she is part of the Fighter's Pass because of timing and the pattern of characters we've seen so far. I think after the FP is done, they'll do Edelgard as a standalone, then have another Ballot, bringing the total number of DLC fighters to 8.
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LapisLazuli
08/12/19 11:10:05 PM
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Oh. Dorothea showed up anyways...

I didn't think the purchased support levels would count towards this scene.
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masterplum
08/12/19 11:17:07 PM
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Think Im going to try blue lions next.

and hit up gold deer when lunatic is released

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LapisLazuli
08/12/19 11:27:36 PM
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If datamine leaks are to be tristed, bosses on Lunatic move like normal units.

I ain't fuckin' with that.
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Xiahou Shake
08/12/19 11:38:46 PM
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masterplum posted...
Rewinding time made battles so much more enjoyable, not because they were easier but you didnt have to spend 15 minutes every move making 100% sure nobody was going to die. If you accidentally missed a vantage ability or something silly you could just oops backwards.

This plus the enemy focus info make this game such a delight to play. At first it felt like way too much information but it just strips so much tedious bullshit out of playing that I think I'd feel weird going back to the earlier games and not having it.
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LapisLazuli
08/12/19 11:49:32 PM
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Yeah, there is the negative side effect of I'm probably not going to be able to go back and play the FE games I missed in the future.
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SantaRPidgey
08/12/19 11:50:48 PM
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LapisLazuli posted...
Dorothea never said what's up and left. This has voiced new cutscenes with Dimitri.


That happens even if you don't meet up with him actually
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LapisLazuli
08/12/19 11:51:37 PM
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Yeah maybe I just forgot it happened with Edlegard the first time? Or does she not get that.
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SantaRPidgey
08/12/19 11:53:13 PM
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LapisLazuli posted...
Oh. Dorothea showed up anyways...

I didn't think the purchased support levels would count towards this scene.


You know that your tower choice is chosen by talking to the gatekeeper, right?
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SantaRPidgey
08/12/19 11:53:43 PM
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LapisLazuli posted...
Yeah maybe I just forgot it happened with Edlegard the first time? Or does she not get that.


Dimitri is the only one with a post dance scene
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mnkboy907
08/13/19 12:20:16 AM
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It's gonna be Byleth in Smash and you all know it.
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Grimlyn
08/13/19 12:22:17 AM
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I still keep reading Edelgard as Edgelard every time
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WazzupGenius00
08/13/19 12:43:15 AM
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I proposed to my brother that she be an Authority user, calling in assist attacks from other Black Eagles (even if that's not really how Authority works in the game)
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Shadow Dino
08/13/19 12:46:36 AM
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If there's a second set of DLC characters for Smash Ultimate, then a Three Houses rep is a mortal lock. A creative way to do it would be having each lord implemented in a Pokemon Trainer-esque fashion, but failing that it's probably Byleth and/or Edelgard.

We're probably long overdue for a Fire Emblem standalone fighting game
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Grimlyn
08/13/19 12:52:00 AM
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I've always thought an Echoes pack could be a thing (with the obvious Ken & Shadow additions), and if so then Byleth echoes Robin
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mnkboy907
08/13/19 1:07:51 AM
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It took me a minute to realize you weren't talking about Fire Emblem Echoes.
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SantaRPidgey
08/13/19 1:11:33 AM
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I actually don't really have a huge desire for any three houses characters playable in any other form (though if we get a fire emblem warriors 2, I'll still be crazy excited)

Actually FEW2 seems pretty likely doesn't it? Koei already has all the models, lots of the voicework could be recycled, and every single character has individual running animations.

Ok gosh darn I'm excited for this
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mnkboy907
08/13/19 1:16:13 AM
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FEW sold over a million as of April last year. I don't know if that's good for a musou or not.
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Mewtwo59
08/13/19 2:00:52 AM
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If there's another FE Warriors I hope they realize that there's more to the series than Shadow Dragon, Awakening, and Fates. Like how do you leave out Ike? If you told me that before they announced it I would've thought you were delusional.
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LapisLazuli
08/13/19 2:04:50 AM
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I mean...his games did sell like ass...
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Mewtwo59
08/13/19 2:19:45 AM
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Yeah, but he had the most votes in the Heroes choose your legends poll if you count both his iterations together. Somehow he's one of the most popular Lords despite nobody playing his game.
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LapisLazuli
08/13/19 2:20:45 AM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
Somehow he's one of the most popular Lords despite nobody playing his game.


Somehow?

Smash.
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Xiahou Shake
08/13/19 2:25:55 AM
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Wait what

Ike was definitely beloved among FE players way before Smash. It's Roy who's popular for no reason other than being put in Melee as an advertisement that people (hilariously) got attached to.
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Mewtwo59
08/13/19 2:31:23 AM
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Yeah, it can't all be Smash since Marth didn't even finish in the top 10.
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Anagram
08/13/19 2:36:16 AM
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I don't know if we'll get a FETH character, but if we do, it'll be Byleth. That whip sword is almost made to be a gimmicky weapon in Smash.
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Panthera
08/13/19 4:51:17 AM
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Xiahou Shake posted...
Wait what

Ike was definitely beloved among FE players way before Smash. It's Roy who's popular for no reason other than being put in Melee as an advertisement that people (hilariously) got attached to.


Smash is definitely the bulk of Ike's popularity. His games sold like utter shit, he doesn't have a big fanbase from them (they're also on systems that are much more taxing to emulate than most of the series, so he's not pulling in extra fans that way). People who like them are vocal about it, but the two of them combined sold less than almost every other individual game in the series.
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Lightning Strikes
08/13/19 5:29:46 AM
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LapisLazuli posted...
I mean...his games did sell like ass...


Sold like ass but he's still the most popular FE character because everybody loves him. His games not selling just makes his popularity more remarkable. His games did low numbers but those who played them are united in support of Ike (and the games). He got into Smash because he was popular. There is much more to his popularity than Smash, hence why he is more popular than Marth and Roy.
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Panthera
08/13/19 5:38:04 AM
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When was Luna ever a busted spell in the past

It was good on one map ever before!
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Panthera
08/13/19 6:52:17 AM
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I was thinking more in player hands. Yeah FE7's Luna Druids with their instant death crit rate on almost everyone were unpleasant.
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Peace___Frog
08/13/19 7:15:24 AM
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The topic title had me
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Logience
08/13/19 10:24:12 AM
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For the last time, Were not getting Edelgard or any of the three lords. Were getting Byleth and thats it. Why do you think Kirbopher got blacklisted by Nintendo for?
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Shadow Dino
08/13/19 10:35:29 AM
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It would be hilarious if Niosi got himself blacklisted violating an NDA because he thought Byleth would get into Smash only for Byleth to never get in.
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masterplum
08/13/19 11:04:29 AM
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Logience posted...
For the last time, Were not getting Edelgard or any of the three lords. Were getting Byleth and thats it. Why do you think Kirbopher got blacklisted by Nintendo for?


I mean, DLC for smash could keep rolling in if people are still playing it. There could be no Edelgard plan now and they just now decided to do it given the reaction.

we wont see it for a year, but it could happen

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masterplum
08/13/19 11:05:32 AM
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I thought it was interesting during the very last Edelgard mission That Rhea went full scorched earth. I wonder if it was to make you feel like you made the right choice. Im curious what the church path is like

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SantaRPidgey
08/13/19 11:23:12 AM
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Crimson Rose Spoilers

Finishing up the last chapter, and I have to say, I appreciate how much they make edelgard unambiguously, no grey area, just the most evil person ever. Despite that, you're free to join her on a warmonger path and support her as a tyrant. It's kind of a breath of fresh air after having corrin support a mad king and having "but corrin is still a really good guy and really kind" being forced into every nook in the story. I also like how the route itself uses propoganda to make it seem like the church is evil to the actual players of the game. When I first learned of the route, I remember a bunch of comments of people who smugly were saying they picked this route because they "knew the church was evil" which means this is a game that actually manages to radicalize its own players into people who commit atrocites and think they're making the right choice. Its actually geniunely scary in concept and I don't think I have ever played a game that successfully did that
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SwiftyDC
08/13/19 11:28:22 AM
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So, if the Death Knight runs away in the 2nd battle - did I take too long? Going to redo.
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SantaRPidgey
08/13/19 11:32:06 AM
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You can't get the death knight in the second battle, unless you do some bow shenanigans
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Shadow Dino
08/13/19 11:34:10 AM
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Chapter six ends if you kill all the non-Death Knight enemies.
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SwiftyDC
08/13/19 11:52:44 AM
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Shadow Dino posted...
Chapter six ends if you kill all the non-Death Knight enemies.


Noted, thanks!
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SantaRPidgey
08/13/19 11:55:31 AM
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It also ends if you open the door to the room
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Grimlyn
08/13/19 1:08:42 PM
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I opened the door and Reposition'd in a stealer

the chapter didn't end, I ran the stealer out and came back with a prepared group and just killed him, then round ended, with 1 goon left over (the healer in that small cell top-left with a teleporter and a healing platform)
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SwiftyDC
08/13/19 1:43:05 PM
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By stealer do you mean a Thief?
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Grimlyn
08/13/19 1:46:23 PM
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SwiftyDC posted...
By stealer do you mean a Thief?

a Thief at some point in their life sure

When mastered, Steal is the given equipable ability so that was my case - first thing I spent my Renown on in NG+ was remastering Thief for just that Death Knight prep
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