Board 8 > Character Battle Simulation (NOT MERCS) Results and Discussion

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yeah remember like 9 months ago i took nominations for a bracket character battle thing

i didnt until now

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rgw7N3CiGctp7WV9eieze-vyrwm7VmPeIV21lJQybCw/edit?usp=sharing

Decided to actually maybe do this so I went through and wrote small summaries of all of the characters nominated and haphazardly organized them into tiers. If you have any suggestions for brief summaries or tier changes or I guess picture updates but I gave you a shot at that please post them in here. I marked some characters with <Strength>+/-, which indicates that I thought that the given power tier would be best but I wasn't certain. I may take more noms after we have things figured out in order to make tiers prettier.

I want to hash out the rules which should also help determine where certain characters would land. What I had in mind so far was that characters are allowed whatever "permanent" weapons or abilities they've acquired. Temporary buffs that they only get for a few chapters or episodes or whatever wouldn't be allowed; roughly speaking, what the character looked like at peak strength or at the end of their prime they'd have. Things like Rand's ter'angreal I'm disinclined not to allow.

The environments characters would fight in would be decided first by the nominators agreeing to choose a location, second by an agreement of the character's optimal location where applicable (for example, Authority would choose a city), and otherwise would occur in a "neutral" territory with a mix of different features.

uhh i'll tag people that had weird noms for now
@hombad46
@Kamekguy
@nfun oops
@Hbthebattle
@hylianknight3

also @KanzarisKelshen and @scarletspeed7 because mercs and comics
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oh nice

Tor is fast and has hella firepower, enough to fight armies and take down armored spaceships. Him vs almost anyone in medium is a stomp

I blame his wiki page and also myself for never actually doing any writeups
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Tag for later.
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Percy shouldn't be low if you're putting other water-controllers in medium

He's created hurricanes and earthquakes, so he probably beats Low tiers such as Sheldon Cooper in a fight
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Mario is also not low
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Oh shit, this is alive! I'm very satisfied with my nominations, but admittedly not so much with my ability to argue for them.

Hbthebattle posted...

Mario is also not low

NFUN posted...

What I had in mind so far was that characters are allowed whatever "permanent" weapons or abilities they've acquired. Temporary buffs that they only get for a few chapters or episodes or whatever wouldn't be allowed; roughly speaking, what the character looked like at peak strength or at the end of their prime they'd have.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty certain that the argument for Mario to not be low is entirely based on temporary power-ups such as the Mega Mushroom.
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Just looking at my noms for the moment. Depends on view of the tier list

Singham: Low/Medium seems about right. He's basically BOLLYWOOD POWER and does crazy shit but usually sticks to beating on goons. Dude can smack you so hard you bounce off the ground so take that as you will

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDH-vwVCKdU" data-time="

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvJqPXGpCQc" data-time="

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Yujiro Hanma: I'd say medium/high with heavy leaning toward putting him at high depending on what you consider that tier exactly. Dude is a fucking freak and the anime doesn't have all the wacky manga stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HguHon2j60I" data-time="

-His "ki" / flexing alone shook skyscrapers

-He flat out ignored getting struck by natural lightning

-Stopped the tectonic activity of an earthquake by punching the ground

-Walks through bulletproof glass

-Wasn't injured after falling from the top of a 50 story skyscraper

-Caught a 45 lb arrow that required 200 kgs of force to successfully project before it could leave the bowstrings from 9 ft away.

-Master fighter

-Solo'd the US military

-Beat down a giga (probably larger than metal gear sized) monster elephant for fun with no trouble

Along with a bunch of other shit.

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Black Hat: Tricky to say if you are going solely from what's seen though a lot can be taken from even that. His deal is that he is seems to be "Villain Saitama". We never see him really try and he doesn't deal with heroes personally because they are nothing to him. He appears to be a lovecraftian entity based off secret lore stuff and the orientation videos. Cartoon Network itself is also a part of his evil influence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk_p-QvSjgg" data-time="

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9XCE6W0zlY" data-time="

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3wdXO651Po" data-time="

Some of his powers and feats we do see include:

-Shadow manipulation

-Kicking with enough force to send you flying off to the horizon

-Rain down firestorms

-Explosions

-Eye lasers

-Force choking

-Forcibly warp you to wherever location...by painfully contorting your body.

-Trap people in TV's

-Can summon monsters from TV's

-Claw open rifts into horror dimensions

-Absurd bodily manipulation (can be used for offense and to disguise himself)

-Size manipulation

-Acidic snot / bodily fluids

-Monstrous animation of items

-Magical repair of objects

-Warping

-Corruption

-Classic horror powers

-Tech manipulation

-etc

Cthulhu is also one of his clients. Seems on the broken tier. At lowest high

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Star Butterfly: Medium sounds about right. She has access to a lot of potentially powerful spells and her magic form can dish out a ton of damage (to the point she was able to kill someone with crazy regeneration). She is reasonably tanky but not too much. Theoretically she could be higher tier based on the spells she had access to assuming she learned them (one of her ancestors also straight up destroyed a dimension) but probably a bit iffy to include given what we see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGaS7dcNtQg" data-time="

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvvdAtGcCro" data-time="

-Pretty tanky

-Decent in unarmed physical combat

-Flight

-Various schools of magic

-Dimensional rift warping

-Enhanced physical strength in magic form

-Has made giant magic armor to fight with
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Glancing at my noms, I feel like Scheherazade deserves a bit of a better explanation. Setting aside that her universe standardizes things like durability and strength such that she's pretty far above humans and gives them immunity to nonmagical attacks of all stripes, her claim to fame is that she's a very odd, limited reality warper. She can manifest anything that was part of the Arabian Nights/1001 Nights, which includes such things as shapeshifting genies, building sized birds, a wide variety of magical artifacts, and even places, and has some limited ability to determine what 'counts' as part of the fables, allowing her to add new things in that didn't have anything to do with the middle eastern stories. She also has a conceptual immunity against beings she considers kings (which can include all forms of rulers, queens and lesser lords included), allowing her to survive their attacks no matter what. This doesn't let her beat them, necessarily, just makes her nigh-on impossible to kill because she reflexively adapts her strategy to counter whatever it is they're doing.

EDIT: Also, re: what counts as a temporary powerup, she spends basically the entirety of her first story being way, way beyond what she can do afterward, because she's fueled by a demon god, which lets her do things like mass-brainwash a dozen heroes into filling roles she wants filled, sustaining self-cloning human beings and monsters as well as a completely unworkable underground world, and lifting a city/small country-sized landmass into the air with the intent to use it to slam a city into dust. Would this count as a temporary powerup considering this all takes place through a span of weeks or months, or just her power peak?

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MetalmindStats posted...

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty certain that the argument for Mario to not be low is entirely based on temporary power-ups such as the Mega Mushroom.

He does shatter brick with his bare hands (well, gloves but w/e) and throw/punch Bowser around like a ragdoll without any of those powerups, so he's a lot stronger than average guy mcdude
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Alright let's see my noms.

Zenobia: I suppose medium works yeah. I'd argue for medium+ after seeing Megumin there.

John Egbert: I'd say he's high. After achieving God Tier he was able to create a massive cyclone to drill to the core of a planet. Also he has retconning powers, so if you include those he might be broken, but these battles wouldn't be canon so they probably wouldn't work because Homestuck is very meta.

Toon Link: Low works. Maybe low+ because Light Arrows are really good.

Rainbow Dash: Going by your own definition of medium, "Capable of respectable superhuman feats. Powers and advantages that give a significant leg up compared to armed humans.", I believe she qualifies. Supersonic flight is pretty good.
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I think Jack Hawksmoor sits right on the edge of Medium to High. Really depends on the situation; if you pull him onto Coruscant, for example, he probably could wipe out an entire galaxy.
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Shonen_Bat posted...

He does shatter brick with his bare hands (well, gloves but w/e) and throw/punch Bowser around like a ragdoll without any of those powerups, so he's a lot stronger than average guy mcdude

True, but the Low tier also self-describedly includes Badass Normals. While Mario has superhuman strength and mobility, I would say his ranged options and durability aren't up to snuff. I was going to make a comparison to John Wick, until I remembered that, based on these rules, Wick might not have access to any weapons at all. I will say, though, that Mario probably wouldn't even be able to land a single hit on The Player, and while it is a style mismatch, I still don't feel like they belong in the same tier as such (and the latter isn't misplaced).
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Shonen_Bat posted...

Tor is fast and has hella firepower, enough to fight armies and take down armored spaceships. Him vs almost anyone in medium is a stomp

Alright, High
Hbthebattle posted...

Percy shouldn't be low if you're putting other water-controllers in medium

He's created hurricanes and earthquakes, so he probably beats Low tiers such as Sheldon Cooper in a fight

I didn't remember that. What degree does he have over these powers?
Pirateking2000 posted...

Yujiro Hanma: I'd say medium/high with heavy leaning toward putting him at high depending on what you consider that tier. Dude is a fucking freak and the anime doesn't have all the wacky manga stuff.

Saucy. I'll toss him in high
Pirateking2000 posted...

Black Hat: Tricky to say if you are going solely from what's seen though a lot can be taken from even that. His deal is that he seems to be "Villain Saitama". We never see him really try and he doesn't deal with heroes personally because they are nothing to him. He appears to be a lovecraftian entity based off secret lore stuff and the orientation videos. Cartoon Network itself is also a part of his evil influence.

I'll put him at broken though I'm afraid he might get ganked from disrespect
KanzarisKelshen posted...

Glancing at my noms, I feel like Scheherazade deserves a bit of a better explanation. Setting aside that her universe standardizes things like durability and strength such that she's pretty far above humans and gives them immunity to nonmagical attacks of all stripes, her claim to fame is that she's a very odd, limited reality warper. She can manifest anything that was part of the Arabian Nights/1001 Nights, which includes such things as shapeshifting genies, building sized birds, a wide variety of magical artifacts, and even places, and has some limited ability to determine what 'counts' as part of the fables, allowing her to add new things in that didn't have anything to do with the middle eastern stories. She also has a conceptual immunity against beings she considers kings (which can include all forms of rulers, queens and lesser lords included), allowing her to survive their attacks no matter what. This doesn't let her beat them, necessarily, just makes her nigh-on impossible to kill because she reflexively adapts her strategy to counter whatever it is they're doing.

EDIT: Also, re: what counts as a temporary powerup, she spends basically the entirety of her first story being way, way beyond what she can do afterward, because she's fueled by a demon god, which lets her do things like mass-brainwash a dozen heroes into filling roles she wants filled, sustaining self-cloning human beings and monsters as well as a completely unworkable underground world, and lifting a city/small country-sized landmass into the air with the intent to use it to slam a city into dust. Would this count as a temporary powerup considering this all takes place through a span of weeks or months, or just her power peak?

I'll put her in high. I'd say that since it's an external source of power that she only has temporarily she wouldn't have it in this
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hombad46 posted...

John Egbert: I'd say he's high. After achieving God Tier he was able to create a massive cyclone to drill to the core of a planet. Also he has retconning powers, so if you include those he might be broken, but these battles wouldn't be canon so they probably wouldn't work because Homestuck is very meta.

Alright

hombad46 posted...

Rainbow Dash: Going by your own definition of medium, "Capable of respectable superhuman feats. Powers and advantages that give a significant leg up compared to armed humans.", I believe she qualifies. Supersonic flight is pretty good.

She probably would, but I feel like a guy with a gun has a fair shot of taking her down. It seemed like flying supersonic was at the peak of her abilities and although it'd be pretty tough to hit a target moving at the speed of a plane, she doesn't have the combat awareness to be able to deal with a shooter behind cover. I don't know the extent of her weather powers. That could make a big difference
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NFUN posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Percy shouldn't be low if you're putting other water-controllers in medium

He's created hurricanes and earthquakes, so he probably beats Low tiers such as Sheldon Cooper in a fight

I didn't remember that. What degree does he have over these powers?

For the earthquake, it caused a volcano to erupt, which caused everyone inside the volcano at the time to be launched all over the US and freed a giant monster stuck under it

The hurricane kicked the shit out of Hyperion, who is a deity and etc. etc.

Point is, he's definitely should be at least Medium with other people with superpowers
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Also, if there are ever any questions on comic characters, just hit me up. I should be pretty useful in those instances.
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Hbthebattle posted...

NFUN posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Percy shouldn't be low if you're putting other water-controllers in medium

He's created hurricanes and earthquakes, so he probably beats Low tiers such as Sheldon Cooper in a fight

I didn't remember that. What degree does he have over these powers?

For the earthquake, it caused a volcano to erupt, which caused everyone inside the volcano at the time to be launched all over the US and freed a giant monster stuck under it

The hurricane kicked the shit out of Hyperion, who is a deity and etc. etc.

Point is, he's definitely should be at least Medium with other people with superpowers

If he can do that on command, I'd say he's even a high
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MetalmindStats posted...

Shonen_Bat posted...

He does shatter brick with his bare hands (well, gloves but w/e) and throw/punch Bowser around like a ragdoll without any of those powerups, so he's a lot stronger than average guy mcdude

True, but the Low tier also self-describedly includes Badass Normals. While Mario has superhuman strength and mobility, I would say his ranged options and durability aren't up to snuff. I was going to make a comparison to John Wick, until I remembered that, based on these rules, Wick might not have access to any weapons at all. I will say, though, that Mario probably wouldn't even be able to land a single hit on The Player, and while it is a style mismatch, I still don't feel like they belong in the same tier as such (and the latter isn't misplaced).

Mario has legitimate superhuman feats. He lives in a cartoony world where normal physics do not apply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwagc5r9oyw" data-time="
Putting him in a "normal people" tier is dumb.
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Hbthebattle posted...

MetalmindStats posted...

Shonen_Bat posted...

He does shatter brick with his bare hands (well, gloves but w/e) and throw/punch Bowser around like a ragdoll without any of those powerups, so he's a lot stronger than average guy mcdude

True, but the Low tier also self-describedly includes Badass Normals. While Mario has superhuman strength and mobility, I would say his ranged options and durability aren't up to snuff. I was going to make a comparison to John Wick, until I remembered that, based on these rules, Wick might not have access to any weapons at all. I will say, though, that Mario probably wouldn't even be able to land a single hit on The Player, and while it is a style mismatch, I still don't feel like they belong in the same tier as such (and the latter isn't misplaced).

Mario has legitimate superhuman feats. He lives in a cartoony world where normal physics do not apply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwagc5r9oyw" data-time="
Putting him in a "normal people" tier is dumb.

he's in the same tier as Link and Kenshiro

@scarletspeed7 what tier would you say that Constatine is in? What I found focused mostly on his manipulation which I don't think would be as relevant to this format, so I put him in low based on a pretty poor understanding of his powers
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John Constantine CAN be extremely powerful. He has folded space and time around himself for the simplest of things, such as skipping customs and ticketing so as to not pay for a plane ticket. The essence of the character is that he is, in fact, a very powerful magician who just chooses most of the time to slack off and really not use his abilities. He also, and this is a very key point, is immortal. He is going to be consigned to hell at the time of his death, but due to contractual fraud he perpetrated against the lords of Hell, his soul is wrapped up in a legal dispute that would functionally cause reality to end should he die. So Hell has to keep him alive in order to prevent a war that would end all of existence.

He also has a lot of the traditional magical spells and wards placed around him that can protect him in a normal DCU-style superhero title. Invisibility, telekinesis, etc. He's got a ton of those spells. But the biggest part of this situation is his immortality and his ability to manipulate reality around him if necessary.
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NFUN posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

MetalmindStats posted...

Shonen_Bat posted...

He does shatter brick with his bare hands (well, gloves but w/e) and throw/punch Bowser around like a ragdoll without any of those powerups, so he's a lot stronger than average guy mcdude

True, but the Low tier also self-describedly includes Badass Normals. While Mario has superhuman strength and mobility, I would say his ranged options and durability aren't up to snuff. I was going to make a comparison to John Wick, until I remembered that, based on these rules, Wick might not have access to any weapons at all. I will say, though, that Mario probably wouldn't even be able to land a single hit on The Player, and while it is a style mismatch, I still don't feel like they belong in the same tier as such (and the latter isn't misplaced).

Mario has legitimate superhuman feats. He lives in a cartoony world where normal physics do not apply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwagc5r9oyw" data-time="
Putting him in a "normal people" tier is dumb.

he's in the same tier as Link and Kenshiro

@scarletspeed7 what tier would you say that Constatine is in? What I found focused mostly on his manipulation which I don't think would be as relevant to this format, so I put him in low based on a pretty poor understanding of his powers

Those two shouldn't be low either. Especially Kenshiro, the guy's nearly invulnerable
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I forgot about this, but I'm rooting for Thibault Tresca to win after reading the description

Hbthebattle posted...

NFUN posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

MetalmindStats posted...

Shonen_Bat posted...

He does shatter brick with his bare hands (well, gloves but w/e) and throw/punch Bowser around like a ragdoll without any of those powerups, so he's a lot stronger than average guy mcdude

True, but the Low tier also self-describedly includes Badass Normals. While Mario has superhuman strength and mobility, I would say his ranged options and durability aren't up to snuff. I was going to make a comparison to John Wick, until I remembered that, based on these rules, Wick might not have access to any weapons at all. I will say, though, that Mario probably wouldn't even be able to land a single hit on The Player, and while it is a style mismatch, I still don't feel like they belong in the same tier as such (and the latter isn't misplaced).

Mario has legitimate superhuman feats. He lives in a cartoony world where normal physics do not apply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwagc5r9oyw" data-time="
Putting him in a "normal people" tier is dumb.

he's in the same tier as Link and Kenshiro

@scarletspeed7 what tier would you say that Constatine is in? What I found focused mostly on his manipulation which I don't think would be as relevant to this format, so I put him in low based on a pretty poor understanding of his powers

Those two shouldn't be low either. Especially Kenshiro, the guy's nearly invulnerable

But can they beat He-man or a sith lord or Aang or the Witch King? Sure, Mario and Link can stomp random people with ease, but they'll probably be outside of their weight class in medium. It's all relative, and having Low just be 10 regular humans punching each other wouldn't be that entertaining.

actually toon link would hard counter the nazgul with his light arrows but that's very situational
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GavsEvans123 posted...

I forgot about this, but I'm rooting for Thibault Tresca to win after reading the description

All of @UF8 's noms made me laugh
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NFUN posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

NFUN posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

MetalmindStats posted...

Shonen_Bat posted...

He does shatter brick with his bare hands (well, gloves but w/e) and throw/punch Bowser around like a ragdoll without any of those powerups, so he's a lot stronger than average guy mcdude

True, but the Low tier also self-describedly includes Badass Normals. While Mario has superhuman strength and mobility, I would say his ranged options and durability aren't up to snuff. I was going to make a comparison to John Wick, until I remembered that, based on these rules, Wick might not have access to any weapons at all. I will say, though, that Mario probably wouldn't even be able to land a single hit on The Player, and while it is a style mismatch, I still don't feel like they belong in the same tier as such (and the latter isn't misplaced).

Mario has legitimate superhuman feats. He lives in a cartoony world where normal physics do not apply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwagc5r9oyw" data-time="
Putting him in a "normal people" tier is dumb.

he's in the same tier as Link and Kenshiro

@scarletspeed7 what tier would you say that Constatine is in? What I found focused mostly on his manipulation which I don't think would be as relevant to this format, so I put him in low based on a pretty poor understanding of his powers

Those two shouldn't be low either. Especially Kenshiro, the guy's nearly invulnerable

But can they beat He-man or a sith lord or Aang or the Witch King? Sure, Mario and Link can stomp random people with ease, but they'll probably be outside of their weight class in medium. It's all relative, and having Low just be 10 regular humans punching each other wouldn't be that entertaining.

actually toon link would hard counter the nazgul with his light arrows but that's very situational

Mario, Link, and Kenshiro could beat quite a few people in Medium.
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NFUN posted...

Pirateking2000 posted...

Yujiro Hanma: I'd say medium/high with heavy leaning toward putting him at high depending on what you consider that tier. Dude is a fucking freak and the anime doesn't have all the wacky manga stuff.

Saucy. I'll toss him in high
Pirateking2000 posted...

Black Hat: Tricky to say if you are going solely from what's seen though a lot can be taken from even that. His deal is that he seems to be "Villain Saitama". We never see him really try and he doesn't deal with heroes personally because they are nothing to him. He appears to be a lovecraftian entity based off secret lore stuff and the orientation videos. Cartoon Network itself is also a part of his evil influence.

I'll put him at broken though I'm afraid he might get ganked from disrespect

Yeah, I was trying to compare for some of them and at the time they just seemed to outclass others within their tier, but now that I am looking at who else you have in those tiers I am unsure.

Like for Yujiro, he outclasses shit like Star and Senator Armstrong most likely, but he is probably not taking out John Egbert unless he can...well I guess if he manages to get a good hit in then John is probably dead but as said John did crazy stuff like wind drilling a fucking planet which seems a bit beyond stopping an earthquake by punching the ground.

You also have guys like Doomguy (who should at lowest probably be high tier given that all DOOM WADs have been confirmed canon and he killed stuff like the Titan who puts stuff like the giant elephant yujiro took out and metal gears to shame given the size of just its skull) and Kenshiro (who would probably be a good match for Yujiro given his moveset) at medium

I guess it really depends on where the cutoff between respectable superhuman feats giving some leg up on regular armed people and "fucking shit up" is.

Like from that description, I can see guys like Wesker being the poster boy for medium tier (respectable superhuman advantages that give them a good leg up on normal armed people but was also able to be defeated by a group of badass normals after a good amount of effort)

For high tier the cutoff is a bit unclear. Plus specific power advantages can make it a bit harder to pin down.

As for Black Hat, yeah that's fair. He is definitely a bit iffy given he never fought and a lot of stuff is mostly inferred from his actions, how everyone is terrified of him, and his demonstrations of various powers to fuck with people along with his in lore ties to various horror stuff + evil devil mythos. Examples like how he is supposedly also El Charro Negro from mexican folklore, and how he is also "Bloody Mary" (there's a bit where some teenage girls do the Bloody Mary ritual with Black Hat instead and he kills them appearing out of the mirror).

Even the likes of Nega Pops (Regular Show), who was capable of deleting his foes right down to their very animation frames, was terrified of Black Hat and brought to his knees before him.

It was partly an attempt to get one entry into each tier through who appears to be "Villain Wankery" personified (that and I like Villainous), but its fine if you put him at high. He's definitely not medium tier though based on the description.
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A few things

Have you ever seen any of the Big Rigs in Big Rigs take damage? No, they will not yield even minutely when confronted by obstacles in their path like buildings. They will not slow even when climbing the steepest cliffs. They have been recorded travelling up to 12.3 undecillion miles per hour in reverse. I sure would like to see The Flash try to beat that. There's a reason they know only how to You're Winner, because a loss is a totally foreign concept to them. Thunderbull OP.

I'm quietly disappointed you had to take out the literal resume Thibault had with all the canon feats he had

https://100orangejuice.gamepedia.com/Big_the_Jonathan new lore. For context's sake, the cast of 100% oj generally tends to have around 5hp and +-0 all other stats, and this includes characters with near planetbuster strength and literal gods. Jonathan can take on 4 of these characters at once and will often still win because your cpu team members have godawful programming and will never fight him and also nobody ever picks defender or healer and also nobody wants to play this game any more

Fantomas is like rocky-tier. I know this because he had a training montage.

UF8 posted...

I'm quietly disappointed you had to take out the literal resume Thibault had with all the canon feats he had

i don't know what this is
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A'ight to give an explanation of D'arby:

D'arby's powers are threefold: personal reality, soul removal, and mind reading. He is able to transport himself and others to a small island area, where he has a TV and video games. This is pretty instantaneous and just like 'put up a portal, oh I'm in there, you should come too'. During that transit, he's able to remove a small part of a person's soul - Jotaro's limb in the case of his encounter since he's a punchy punchman - and if you just punch him, boom, that's gone forever. He is able to completely take the soul of anyone he is able to beat in a competition, of which he chooses video games. He is naturally good at video games, and is able to read the mind of opponents to lull them into false confidence and perfectly read their strategies.

Essentially it's "can you beat man at video games. He always has leverage to make you want to play video games with him. Also he can mind read". Figured it'd lead to actual cerebral competitions and would work as an anti-meta character.
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Kamekguy posted...

A'ight to give an explanation of D'arby:

D'arby's powers are threefold: personal reality, soul removal, and mind reading. He is able to transport himself and others to a small island area, where he has a TV and video games. This is pretty instantaneous and just like 'put up a portal, oh I'm in there, you should come too'. During that transit, he's able to remove a small part of a person's soul - Jotaro's limb in the case of his encounter since he's a punchy punchman - and if you just punch him, boom, that's gone forever. He is able to completely take the soul of anyone he is able to beat in a competition, of which he chooses video games. He is naturally good at video games, and is able to read the mind of opponents to lull them into false confidence and perfectly read their strategies.

Essentially it's "can you beat man at video games. He always has leverage to make you want to play video games with him. Also he can mind read". Figured it'd lead to actual cerebral competitions and would work as an anti-meta character.

but he's also meta because some characters are from video games. if he's matched against mario and mario chooses smb 1, will mario automatically win? will mario dissolve into an existential crisis because his life is a game?

we can just theorize how good characters would be at video games but that's less fun
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I'll not let Rand have any sa'angreal, though I'll allow him his little monk and balefire
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guess I'll lean in and make Bugs and Missingno broken

any last concerns or suggestions about placements before I open it up for more, specific nominations?
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One cool aspect of this would be to power rank them in their genres.
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I'm gonna make a semi-coherent seeding system in order to determine matchups so that'll end up being a consequence
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This sounds fun
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topic time
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