Current Events > Cyberpunk 2077 continues to be scaled back, all cutscenes 1st person

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Shablagoo
09/01/19 3:17:52 PM
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https://forums.cdprojektred.com/index.php?threads/e3-2019-post-e3-2019-media-news-previews.11007793/page-48

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/cyd0bd/all_cutscenes_in_cyberpunk_2077_are_now_first/

Man this game looked cool but they continue to cut the stuff I care about most out in an effort to poop out a mediocre product on schedule.

I was looking forward to the wealth of customization options but whats the point if you cant get a good look at your character?
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AlecSkorpio
09/01/19 3:18:34 PM
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Wow, that's a pretty big cut.
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TheBlueMonk_
09/01/19 3:19:58 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
I was looking forward to the wealth of customization

*Gamers rising up intensifies*
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Garioshi
09/01/19 3:20:35 PM
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wtf

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Shablagoo
09/01/19 3:22:48 PM
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TheBlueMonk_ posted...
Shablagoo posted...
I was looking forward to the wealth of customization

*Gamers rising up intensifies*

?
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CountDog
09/01/19 3:23:42 PM
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Eh. I blame inflation, capitalism ourselves, if we wernt greedy we just have the goods all da time.
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Unsugarized_Foo
09/01/19 3:23:42 PM
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I noticed that from the trailers
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fan357
09/01/19 3:24:11 PM
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Not a big deal at all.

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TheBlueMonk_
09/01/19 3:26:36 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
TheBlueMonk_ posted...
Shablagoo posted...
I was looking forward to the wealth of customization

*Gamers rising up intensifies*

?

you really dont know?

cd projekt that in their customization for characters, you just pick a body type, voice type, etc instead of clicking a gender, and all the alt-right people lost their damn mind decrying cd projeckt for not letting them pick a male character

except they can. its just not a button. these men feel like their gender won't be featured forefront in the game.

JUST LIKE TRANS PEOPLE FEEL LIKE OHHH WHAAAT????
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Shablagoo
09/01/19 3:29:10 PM
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TheBlueMonk_ posted...
you really dont know?

cd projekt that in their customization for characters, you just pick a body type, voice type, etc instead of clicking a gender, and all the alt-right people lost their damn mind decrying cd projeckt for not letting them pick a male character

except they can. its just not a button. these men feel like their gender won't be featured forefront in the game.

JUST LIKE TRANS PEOPLE FEEL LIKE OHHH WHAAAT????


Ohhh I did hear about that, I thought you were saying I was doing GRU lol

But yeah, customization is my favorite part of games and this one looked like itd really scratch my itch so Im pretty disappointed with this 1st-person-only news:3

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GeneralKenobi85
09/01/19 3:41:45 PM
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I don't really care about character customization and it doesn't exactly look like Cyberpunk was going to have a wealth of customization options anyway. I still would have preferred traditional third person cutscenes. I don't mind that the game itself is entirely in first person, but even then I don't quite agree with their reasoning for not including a third person option.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
09/01/19 3:43:13 PM
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Why does it matter if cutscenes are first or third person?
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Darkninja42
09/01/19 3:44:17 PM
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I really don't like first person cutscenes but it's not a deal breaker for me.
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Lebronwon
09/01/19 3:46:29 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Why does it matter if cutscenes are first or third person?


I'm guessing if cutscenes are first person it makes character customization useless since you would never see character.
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Alucard188
09/01/19 3:47:03 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Why does it matter if cutscenes are first or third person?


This. I'm fairly sure that it's a first person game anyways, so...

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Freddie_Mercury
09/01/19 3:49:35 PM
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where's that one image showing the twitter page going from calling it an immersive RPG experience to an action-adventure story
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Shablagoo
09/01/19 3:50:08 PM
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Lebronwon posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Why does it matter if cutscenes are first or third person?


I'm guessing if cutscenes are first person it makes character customization useless since you would never see character.


Hopefully they let you look down at your body (unlike, annoyingly, most 1st-person games).

I did read that some gameplay actions will switch you briefly to third-person view.
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Shablagoo
09/01/19 3:50:37 PM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
where's that one image showing the twitter page going from calling it an immersive RPG experience to an action-adventure story


LOL I want to see this
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
09/01/19 3:51:30 PM
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I would find it weird if you played the game entirely in first person and then it flipped for cutscenes.

Also, it would be SUPER WEIRD with the whole Keanu thing going on to see that from a third person perspective.
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Shablagoo
09/01/19 3:53:23 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
I would find it weird if you played the game entirely in first person and then it flipped for cutscenes.

Also, it would be SUPER WEIRD with the whole Keanu thing going on to see that from a third person perspective.


During gameplay, there are special moves and other events that switch to a third-person camera.

Also, I guess I was holding out hope wed be able to switch freely between 3rd and 1st p view. >.>
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pauIie
09/01/19 3:57:42 PM
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fpp cutscenes just arent as good. i'll still get the game and enjoy it, but I wont enjoy it as much as I could have.
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REMercsChamp
09/01/19 4:00:56 PM
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Preorder CANCELLED

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Leanaunfurled
09/01/19 4:02:48 PM
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Don't care in the slightest.
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Banjo2553
09/01/19 4:04:02 PM
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If the demo really is representative of the final product and they didn't just cut things out for demo simplicity, then this'll be super disappointing.

Like, not having third-person cutscenes goes against what they said and promised, and also makes character customization useless.
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GeneralKenobi85
09/01/19 4:06:03 PM
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The Witcher had a photo mode right? I imagine Cyberpunk will too. So at least there's that.
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Shablagoo
09/01/19 4:09:46 PM
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
The Witcher had a photo mode right? I imagine Cyberpunk will too. So at least there's that.


This post on their forum seems to imply even photo mode might be FP-only, lol:

https://forums.cdprojektred.com/index.php?threads/e3-2019-post-e3-2019-media-news-previews.11007793/page-47#post-11686826
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Cthulhu_Fhtagn
09/01/19 4:11:21 PM
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Leanaunfurled posted...
Don't care in the slightest.


This

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Bringit
09/01/19 4:11:29 PM
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I'm kinda conflicted.

On the one hand I'm always more immersed in first person narratives (stuff like Half-Life and The Darkness) but with customization being such a huge thing in the game, I feel like it's shooting itself in the foot here.
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Duwstai
09/01/19 4:14:23 PM
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They wouldn't do it for no reason. A lot of games do first person cutscenes very well. Can be much more immersive. Far cry 3 comes to mind
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Ivynn
09/01/19 4:14:51 PM
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Well at least it won't matter if I spend two hours customizing my character only to realize an hour in that I messed up on one detail that will keep bothering me unless I redo it.
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Zodd3224
09/01/19 4:16:03 PM
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I would prefer the whole game be third person. I rarely like 1st person games.
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Shablagoo
09/01/19 4:17:52 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
I would prefer the whole game be third person. I rarely like 1st person games.


3rd person is actually more immersive imo because IRL we have peripheral vision and spatial awareness that doesnt translate very well in tunnel vision first-person.
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pauIie
09/01/19 4:19:34 PM
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Ivynn posted...
Well at least it won't matter if I spend two hours customizing my character only to realize an hour in that I messed up on one detail that will keep bothering me unless I redo it.

Would be kinda weird if you couldnt go back and edit your nose in a genre that deals with body mods.

But yeah...who cares now lol
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luigi13579
09/01/19 4:20:23 PM
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FPP for sex scenes sounds pretty lolworthy.

Immersion is all well and good (and I like it as much as the next guy), but if it starts to significantly impact other aspects negatively, then you need to reassess your priorities tbqh.

That said, I'll reserve judgment until I experience the finished game. There's no point in freaking out over every detail that isn't exactly as I envisaged.
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hockeybub89
09/01/19 5:42:00 PM
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It sounds like only some cutscenes would have had third person. You'll have the perspective in vehicles and takedowns and I believe you look down and see your body, as well as in mirrors.
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Darmik
09/01/19 5:51:21 PM
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I called people reacting like this after last years E3 demo. The Witcher 3 was scaled back a lot too. They outright said that last years demo was not going to be the same as the final product. The Gamescom demo looked a lot more real.

Shablagoo posted...
Also, I guess I was holding out hope wed be able to switch freely between 3rd and 1st p view. >.>


They ruled that out a long time ago.

Banjo2553 posted...
If the demo really is representative of the final product and they didn't just cut things out for demo simplicity, then this'll be super disappointing.

Like, not having third-person cutscenes goes against what they said and promised, and also makes character customization useless.


What did they say and promise?
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Shablagoo
09/01/19 5:54:58 PM
#38:


hockeybub89 posted...
It sounds like only some cutscenes would have had third person. You'll have the perspective in vehicles and takedowns and I believe you look down and see your body, as well as in mirrors.


I hope so, that would be great
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Raikuro
09/01/19 6:00:40 PM
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This is seriously making me consider cancelling my preorder... cinematic cutscenes are the reward for slogging through first person gameplay. Being entirely first person just feels like some shitty home movie.
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hockeybub89
09/01/19 6:01:53 PM
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Raikuro posted...
This is seriously making me consider cancelling my preorder... cinematic cutscenes are the reward for slogging through first person gameplay. Being entirely first person just feels like some shitty home movie.

You definitely shouldn't buy the game if you already envision playing it as being a slog.
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apocalyptic_4
09/01/19 6:03:54 PM
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I'm still buying it day one but I've been into gaming long enough to know never follow the hype on these games. Devs will promise anything to sell you on something.

The game will be great regardless but I dont listen or follow any of these games until launch it's all fluff until the final product.
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Raikuro
09/01/19 6:07:08 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
You definitely shouldn't buy the game if you already envision playing it as being a slog.
sorry I don't like role-playing as a disembodied floating camera
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Darmik
09/01/19 6:09:08 PM
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ProfessorKukui posted...
I thought this was brought up like near the first trailer or whatnot...?


Gameplay was always going to be first person (no idea why people hope/expect anything different) but the cutscenes is a new thing. I think people were expecting them to handle it like Deus Ex did with third person cutscenes and conversations.

If this is a deal-breaker I think expectations were always unrealistic for those people.
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The_Ivory_Man
09/01/19 6:10:36 PM
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This is odd for a game with character customization.

Why put in effort when you barely see them?

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MudKip_Master
09/01/19 6:12:16 PM
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Not a big deal at all
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creativerealms
09/01/19 6:12:59 PM
#48:


At least they are letting us know before the game is released. It's nice they are being upfront about it given some companies.

Yeah it sucks they are making these changes, be they time constraints, budget constraints, what ever it sucks they can't deliver everything.

Still I as a gamer appreciate the honesty.
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myzz7
09/01/19 6:14:34 PM
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i wonder how the dick-riding youtubers for CD project red are going to react to this
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hockeybub89
09/01/19 8:08:16 PM
#50:


Raikuro posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
You definitely shouldn't buy the game if you already envision playing it as being a slog.
sorry I don't like role-playing as a disembodied floating camera

Not demanding an apology. Just wondering why you were considering buying a game where you were going to be forcing yourself through gameplay just to sometimes see yourself in cutscenes
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