Poll of the Day > I've genuinely never seen this much bad PR for a game before (Pokemon)

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LinkPizza 11/16/19 1:00:18 PM #152:	Etheos posted... I wonder how many of the people complaining would actually complete the 890 pokemon national dex. I honestly dont think its that many. I think most just want their favorites and are more mad about their favorites, ribbon holders, or specific Pokmon more, tbh... Especially since Ive seen some people say they were fine with the cut because their favorites or the ones they wanted to use are still in... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:930222428] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>Etheos posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder how many of the people complaining would actually complete the 890 pokemon national dex.</quote> I honestly dont think its that many. I think most just want their favorites and are more mad about their favorites, ribbon holders, or specific Pokmon more, tbh... Especially since Ive seen some people say they were fine with the cut because their favorites or the ones they wanted to use are still in...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 11/16/19 1:17:28 PM #153:	Bulbasaur posted... gamefreak is not a big studio. They are getting 50% more income, they can afford to have 50% more code monkeys. Etheos posted... I wonder how many of the people complaining would actually complete the 890 pokemon national dex. You don't need to want to get all of them to be screwed over by the change. They all need to be in because every single pokemon has someone that is a fan of it. There's also the issue that even if your preferred pokemon species is in the game, it's still not the one you caught 20 years ago. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:930223141] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>Bulbasaur posted...</cite> <quote>gamefreak is not a big studio.</quote> They are getting 50% more income, they can afford to have 50% more code monkeys. Etheos posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder how many of the people complaining would actually complete the 890 pokemon national dex.</quote> You don't need to want to get all of them to be screwed over by the change. They all need to be in because every single pokemon has someone that is a fan of it. There's also the issue that even if your preferred pokemon species is in the game, it's still not the one you caught 20 years ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BanjoBoomer 11/16/19 2:11:22 PM #154:	LinkPizza posted... You dont have access to them yet. And its a whole new world. But depending on how they do the new games, maybe those other Pokmon dont exist in this new world. And I do understand. I dont see it as a major issue, though. Especially since things could change in the future. But like I said, you still have them. You just cant use them yet. Maybe never again in the new games. Only time will tell... You should be happy they are letting you use any. They could have just started over fresh. And then, even more people would have been mad. Which might be why they are taking the cut slowly... Also, they could have reasons or a patterns theyre working on. Just because you dont see them doesnt mean it doesnt exist... I would have been fine with a complete reboot as long as it was a complete overhaul with production values on par with Nintendo's other top games. Instead they went with the same incremental upgrade as before, except with fewer Pokemon. It's the worst of both worlds. LinkPizza posted... Exactly. You would have overlooked them. But that doesnt mean everybody would have. Even on games with be tree graphics, people complain about the graphics. Or the FPS not matching PC speeds. Not everyone would overlooked 10 other things they want to complain about for some extra Pokmon... Some of them probably dont even care about Dexit... There will always be people who complain, but it's a matter of degree. Far fewer people complain about Mario Odyssey, BotW, and Smash Ultimate than about Sword and Shield. Just like far fewer people complained about the Metroid Prime games than Other M, far fewer people complained about Thousand Year Door than Color Splash. Not everything is going to stir up the same amount of negative backlash. And Gamefreak definitely has the resources necessary to make a game that wouldn't cause this kind of massive backlash. <cite>BanjoBoomer posted [p:930225325] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>You dont have access to them yet. And its a whole new world. But depending on how they do the new games, maybe those other Pokmon dont exist in this new world. And I do understand. I dont see it as a major issue, though. Especially since things could change in the future. But like I said, you still have them. You just cant use them yet. Maybe never again in the new games. Only time will tell... You should be happy they are letting you use any. They could have just started over fresh. And then, even more people would have been mad. Which might be why they are taking the cut slowly... Also, they could have reasons or a patterns theyre working on. Just because you dont see them doesnt mean it doesnt exist...</quote> I would have been fine with a complete reboot as long as it was a complete overhaul with production values on par with Nintendo's other top games. Instead they went with the same incremental upgrade as before, except with fewer Pokemon. It's the worst of both worlds. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Exactly. You would have overlooked them. But that doesnt mean everybody would have. Even on games with be tree graphics, people complain about the graphics. Or the FPS not matching PC speeds. Not everyone would overlooked 10 other things they want to complain about for some extra Pokmon... Some of them probably dont even care about Dexit...</quote> There will always be people who complain, but it's a matter of degree. Far fewer people complain about Mario Odyssey, BotW, and Smash Ultimate than about Sword and Shield. Just like far fewer people complained about the Metroid Prime games than Other M, far fewer people complained about Thousand Year Door than Color Splash. Not everything is going to stir up the same amount of negative backlash. And Gamefreak definitely has the resources necessary to make a game that wouldn't cause this kind of massive backlash. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/16/19 2:31:32 PM #155:	BanjoBoomer posted... I would have been fine with a complete reboot as long as it was a complete overhaul with production values on par with Nintendo's other top games. Instead they went with the same incremental upgrade as before, except with fewer Pokemon. It's the worst of both worlds. Well, fewer altogether. Though, as someone else pointed out, its still more than a lot of other games. And again, thats you being ok with it. Not everyone would have wanted a complete overhaul. Some would have said, why not keep some of the old ones. And then, there would be a different controversy. Which goes back to nobody being happy because everybody wants the perfect game that fits their needs. But they cant do that. So, they make a game they like that works for them. BanjoBoomer posted... There will always be people who complain, but it's a matter of degree. Far fewer people complain about Mario Odyssey, BotW, and Smash Ultimate than about Sword and Shield. Just like far fewer people complained about the Metroid Prime games than Other M, far fewer people complained about Thousand Year Door than Color Splash. Not everything is going to stir up the same amount of negative backlash. And Gamefreak definitely has the resources necessary to make a game that wouldn't cause this kind of massive backlash. While SSBU didnt get much (though I hear the smash board is insane), and Mario Odyssey haters were kind of their own brand (people hating the whole game due to one or two songs i.e. the ones with lyrics), BotW actually got a lot of hate. All around. Probably less, but not by a ton. And you dont really know how many people would have complained. The problem is what people are complaining about. Just because Dexit seems to be the biggest issue for you and some others here doesnt mean it was the biggest issue to others. Some may only bring it up because its another reason to complain. Or because others are complaining about it. And I cant say anything about whether Gamefreak has the resources or not. Im not an expert of game development teams. They did what they did for a reason. But Im not going to just assume everything about a company just because some people have found a few numbers on their company and wants to make any assumptions... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:930226120] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>I would have been fine with a complete reboot as long as it was a complete overhaul with production values on par with Nintendo's other top games. Instead they went with the same incremental upgrade as before, except with fewer Pokemon. It's the worst of both worlds.</quote> Well, fewer altogether. Though, as someone else pointed out, its still more than a lot of other games. And again, thats you being ok with it. Not everyone would have wanted a complete overhaul. Some would have said, why not keep some of the old ones. And then, there would be a different controversy. Which goes back to nobody being happy because everybody wants the perfect game that fits their needs. But they cant do that. So, they make a game they like that works for them. BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>There will always be people who complain, but it's a matter of degree. Far fewer people complain about Mario Odyssey, BotW, and Smash Ultimate than about Sword and Shield. Just like far fewer people complained about the Metroid Prime games than Other M, far fewer people complained about Thousand Year Door than Color Splash. Not everything is going to stir up the same amount of negative backlash. And Gamefreak definitely has the resources necessary to make a game that wouldn't cause this kind of massive backlash.</quote> While SSBU didnt get much (though I hear the smash board is insane), and Mario Odyssey haters were kind of their own brand (people hating the whole game due to one or two songs i.e. the ones with lyrics), BotW actually got a lot of hate. All around. Probably less, but not by a ton. And you dont really know how many people would have complained. The problem is what people are complaining about. Just because Dexit seems to be the biggest issue for you and some others here doesnt mean it was the biggest issue to others. Some may only bring it up because its another reason to complain. Or because others are complaining about it. And I cant say anything about whether Gamefreak has the resources or not. Im not an expert of game development teams. They did what they did for a reason. But Im not going to just assume everything about a company just because some people have found a few numbers on their company and wants to make any assumptions...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bulbasaur 11/16/19 2:36:37 PM #156:	BanjoBoomer posted... I would have been fine with a complete reboot as long as it was a complete overhaul with production values on par with Nintendo's other top games that would require nintendo to buy gamefreak, which, if it was gonna happen, would have already happened a long time ago. gamefreak is a third party developer. --- it's hard to read my thoughts i'm feeling guess they're not real then <cite>Bulbasaur posted [p:930226335] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>I would have been fine with a complete reboot as long as it was a complete overhaul with production values on par with Nintendo's other top games</quote> that would require nintendo to buy gamefreak, which, if it was gonna happen, would have already happened a long time ago. gamefreak is a third party developer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BanjoBoomer 11/16/19 3:25:24 PM #157:	LinkPizza posted... Well, fewer altogether. Though, as someone else pointed out, its still more than a lot of other games. And again, thats you being ok with it. Not everyone would have wanted a complete overhaul. Some would have said, why not keep some of the old ones. And then, there would be a different controversy. Which goes back to nobody being happy because everybody wants the perfect game that fits their needs. But they cant do that. So, they make a game they like that works for them. Eh, I clearly remember before Sword and Shield were revealed, a lot of people were hyping of the idea of a big BotW-esque overhaul on the Switch. And yes, there was some disappointment when the first trailer landed, but there was still mostly hype. People knew that it wouldn't be as big or ambitious as most AAA games that come out nowadays, but they were judging Sw/Sh on the standard that Gamefreak was making another iterative sequel so they wouldn't have to toss everything out and start over, which people automatically assumed would include all the old pokemon and moves. It was only when the purge was announced that the shit really hit the fan. While SSBU didnt get much (though I hear the smash board is insane), and Mario Odyssey haters were kind of their own brand (people hating the whole game due to one or two songs i.e. the ones with lyrics), BotW actually got a lot of hate. All around. Probably less, but not by a ton. And you dont really know how many people would have complained. The problem is what people are complaining about. Just because Dexit seems to be the biggest issue for you and some others here doesnt mean it was the biggest issue to others. Some may only bring it up because its another reason to complain. Or because others are complaining about it. And I cant say anything about whether Gamefreak has the resources or not. Im not an expert of game development teams. They did what they did for a reason. But Im not going to just assume everything about a company just because some people have found a few numbers on their company and wants to make any assumptions... Breath of the Wild got way less hate than Sword and Shield is getting. It did stir up some heated complaints compared to most traditional Zelda games, but overall it recieves tons of praise, much more than Skyward Sword before it. It was an overhaul with a lot of thought and effort put into it. <cite>BanjoBoomer posted [p:930228250] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Well, fewer altogether. Though, as someone else pointed out, its still more than a lot of other games. And again, thats you being ok with it. Not everyone would have wanted a complete overhaul. Some would have said, why not keep some of the old ones. And then, there would be a different controversy. Which goes back to nobody being happy because everybody wants the perfect game that fits their needs. But they cant do that. So, they make a game they like that works for them.</quote> Eh, I clearly remember before Sword and Shield were revealed, a lot of people were hyping of the idea of a big BotW-esque overhaul on the Switch. And yes, there was some disappointment when the first trailer landed, but there was still mostly hype. People knew that it wouldn't be as big or ambitious as most AAA games that come out nowadays, but they were judging Sw/Sh on the standard that Gamefreak was making another iterative sequel so they wouldn't have to toss everything out and start over, which people automatically assumed would include all the old pokemon and moves. It was only when the purge was announced that the shit really hit the fan. <quote>While SSBU didnt get much (though I hear the smash board is insane), and Mario Odyssey haters were kind of their own brand (people hating the whole game due to one or two songs i.e. the ones with lyrics), BotW actually got a lot of hate. All around. Probably less, but not by a ton. And you dont really know how many people would have complained. The problem is what people are complaining about. Just because Dexit seems to be the biggest issue for you and some others here doesnt mean it was the biggest issue to others. Some may only bring it up because its another reason to complain. Or because others are complaining about it. And I cant say anything about whether Gamefreak has the resources or not. Im not an expert of game development teams. They did what they did for a reason. But Im not going to just assume everything about a company just because some people have found a few numbers on their company and wants to make any assumptions...</quote> Breath of the Wild got way less hate than Sword and Shield is getting. It did stir up some heated complaints compared to most traditional Zelda games, but overall it recieves tons of praise, much more than Skyward Sword before it. It was an overhaul with a lot of thought and effort put into it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/16/19 3:36:28 PM #158:	BanjoBoomer posted... Eh, I clearly remember before Sword and Shield were revealed, a lot of people were hyping of the idea of a big BotW-esque overhaul on the Switch. And yes, there was some disappointment when the first trailer landed, but there was still mostly hype. People knew that it wouldn't be as big or ambitious as most AAA games that come out nowadays, but they were judging Sw/Sh on the standard that Gamefreak was making another iterative sequel so they wouldn't have to toss everything out and start over, which people automatically assumed would include all the old pokemon and moves. It was only when the purge was announced that the shit really hit the fan. I dont remember anyone being excited about a big overhaul. When I heard people talk about it, it was the same talk that usually happened when dealing with Pokmon. Though, I think the disappointment would have been larger than Dexit. Now everybody loses everything. Sure, they still have their collection, but now they cant use any of it. Just thinking about how mad they are that they cant use everything, it seems it wouldve even worse if they couldnt use anything from before... BanjoBoomer posted... Breath of the Wild got way less hate than Sword and Shield is getting. It did stir up some heated complaints compared to most traditional Zelda games, but overall it recieves tons of praise, much more than Skyward Sword before it. It was an overhaul with a lot of thought and effort put into it. Idk. Maybe it was because I was on FB and the BotW board. But there was a lot of people constantly complaining. I heard more complaining about that then Pokmon, tbh. I do think Pokmon got more, but I rarely hear the complaints. And they are much more spread out then BotW, too... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:930228635] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>Eh, I clearly remember before Sword and Shield were revealed, a lot of people were hyping of the idea of a big BotW-esque overhaul on the Switch. And yes, there was some disappointment when the first trailer landed, but there was still mostly hype. People knew that it wouldn't be as big or ambitious as most AAA games that come out nowadays, but they were judging Sw/Sh on the standard that Gamefreak was making another iterative sequel so they wouldn't have to toss everything out and start over, which people automatically assumed would include all the old pokemon and moves. It was only when the purge was announced that the shit really hit the fan.</quote> I dont remember anyone being excited about a big overhaul. When I heard people talk about it, it was the same talk that usually happened when dealing with Pokmon. Though, I think the disappointment would have been larger than Dexit. Now everybody loses everything. Sure, they still have their collection, but now they cant use any of it. Just thinking about how mad they are that they cant use everything, it seems it wouldve even worse if they couldnt use anything from before... BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>Breath of the Wild got way less hate than Sword and Shield is getting. It did stir up some heated complaints compared to most traditional Zelda games, but overall it recieves tons of praise, much more than Skyward Sword before it. It was an overhaul with a lot of thought and effort put into it. </quote> Idk. Maybe it was because I was on FB and the BotW board. But there was a lot of people constantly complaining. I heard more complaining about that then Pokmon, tbh. I do think Pokmon got more, but I rarely hear the complaints. And they are much more spread out then BotW, too...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanonsSpirit 11/16/19 4:47:09 PM #159:	Bulbasaur posted... that would require nintendo to buy gamefreak, which, if it was gonna happen, would have already happened a long time ago. gamefreak is a third party developer. Intelligent Systems is a 3rd party developer and Fire Emblem: Three Houses isn't an unpolished pile of shit. It's a big step up from Fates. A game doesn't have to be 1st party to be polished. --- https://imgur.com/tsQUpxC Thanks, Nade Duck! [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] <cite>GanonsSpirit posted [p:930231429] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>Bulbasaur posted... </cite> <quote>that would require nintendo to buy gamefreak, which, if it was gonna happen, would have already happened a long time ago. gamefreak is a third party developer.</quote>Intelligent Systems is a 3rd party developer and Fire Emblem: Three Houses isn't an unpolished pile of shit. It's a big step up from Fates. A game doesn't have to be 1st party to be polished. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanonsSpirit 11/16/19 4:48:42 PM #160:	Also, just found out the GTS isn't in this game. What the fuck is Gamefreak even doing? --- https://imgur.com/tsQUpxC Thanks, Nade Duck! [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] <cite>GanonsSpirit posted [p:930231481] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>Also, just found out the GTS isn't in this game. What the fuck is Gamefreak even doing? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/16/19 4:53:32 PM #161:	GanonsSpirit posted... Bulbasaur posted... that would require nintendo to buy gamefreak, which, if it was gonna happen, would have already happened a long time ago. gamefreak is a third party developer. Intelligent Systems is a 3rd party developer and Fire Emblem: Three Houses isn't an unpolished pile of shit. It's a big step up from Fates. A game doesn't have to be 1st party to be polished. I dont think thats what Helly was saying... Not exactly, at least... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:930231674] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>GanonsSpirit posted...</cite> <quote>Bulbasaur posted... </cite> <quote>that would require nintendo to buy gamefreak, which, if it was gonna happen, would have already happened a long time ago. gamefreak is a third party developer.</quote>Intelligent Systems is a 3rd party developer and Fire Emblem: Three Houses isn't an unpolished pile of shit. It's a big step up from Fates. A game doesn't have to be 1st party to be polished.</quote> I dont think thats what Helly was saying... Not exactly, at least...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OrangeDawn 11/16/19 5:00:55 PM #162:	GanonsSpirit posted... Also, just found out the GTS isn't in this game. What the fuck is Gamefreak even doing? serving people shit since they're just blind consumers at this point --- 3DS Friend Code: 3308-5843-0863 Town: Virginia <cite>OrangeDawn posted [p:930231988] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>GanonsSpirit posted...</cite> <quote>Also, just found out the GTS isn't in this game. What the fuck is Gamefreak even doing? </quote> serving people shit since they're just blind consumers at this point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Destiny 11/16/19 5:46:48 PM #163:	GanonsSpirit posted... Bulbasaur posted... that would require nintendo to buy gamefreak, which, if it was gonna happen, would have already happened a long time ago. gamefreak is a third party developer. Intelligent Systems is a 3rd party developer and Fire Emblem: Three Houses isn't an unpolished pile of shit. It's a big step up from Fates. A game doesn't have to be 1st party to be polished. does anyone think they're third party do they even think they're third party? even so, there's nothing unpolished about sword and shield. they're pretty damn polished. --- it feels like someone took a crack pipe, lit it with a torch light, and threw it on a gas line there is fire everywhere. <cite>Destiny posted [p:930233645] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>GanonsSpirit posted...</cite> <quote>Bulbasaur posted... </cite> <quote>that would require nintendo to buy gamefreak, which, if it was gonna happen, would have already happened a long time ago. gamefreak is a third party developer.</quote>Intelligent Systems is a 3rd party developer and Fire Emblem: Three Houses isn't an unpolished pile of shit. It's a big step up from Fates. A game doesn't have to be 1st party to be polished. </quote> does anyone think they're third party do they even think they're third party? even so, there's nothing unpolished about sword and shield. they're pretty damn polished.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BanjoBoomer 11/17/19 2:00:03 AM #164:	LinkPizza posted... I dont remember anyone being excited about a big overhaul. When I heard people talk about it, it was the same talk that usually happened when dealing with Pokmon. Though, I think the disappointment would have been larger than Dexit. Now everybody loses everything. Sure, they still have their collection, but now they cant use any of it. Just thinking about how mad they are that they cant use everything, it seems it wouldve even worse if they couldnt use anything from before... How did you miss all the hype surrounding this image: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkv7E6DcDJ8&feature=youtu.be&t=121 Maybe you just weren't in the same parts of the internet I was in, but I saw tons of people getting hyped at the idea of a big Pokemon overhaul akin to BotW. And I was one of them. Gamefreak should have either did what was necessary to keep every pokemon, or they should have started fresh with a massive overhaul that brought Pokemon up to date with other major Nintendo IPs. As it stands, Pokemon is way behind Nintendo's other IPs (and Nintendo itself is already graphically behind the games coming out on Xbox and Playstation) with no legitimate excuse. Having to port over every pokemon would be a legitimate enough excuse. But they couldn't even be bothered to do that. And the reason is because they don't have to, not because they can't. If Pokemon games stopped selling as much, Gamefreak would be forced to match the quality of other Nintendo IPs, but the games sell well no matter what, so they are complacent. LinkPizza posted... Idk. Maybe it was because I was on FB and the BotW board. But there was a lot of people constantly complaining. I heard more complaining about that then Pokmon, tbh. I do think Pokmon got more, but I rarely hear the complaints. And they are much more spread out then BotW, too... I just don't see it. Looking on the BotW board, I don't see nearly as much negative discussion as the Sw/Sh board, especially if I go back to when BotW was first released. Sw/Sh should be in its honeymoon period right now, when people are least critical of a game. And, I mean, just look at this: https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/pokemon-sword/user-reviews https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild/user-reviews <cite>BanjoBoomer posted [p:930252936] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>I dont remember anyone being excited about a big overhaul. When I heard people talk about it, it was the same talk that usually happened when dealing with Pokmon. Though, I think the disappointment would have been larger than Dexit. Now everybody loses everything. Sure, they still have their collection, but now they cant use any of it. Just thinking about how mad they are that they cant use everything, it seems it wouldve even worse if they couldnt use anything from before...</quote> How did you miss all the hype surrounding this image: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkv7E6DcDJ8&feature=youtu.be&t=121 Maybe you just weren't in the same parts of the internet I was in, but I saw tons of people getting hyped at the idea of a big Pokemon overhaul akin to BotW. And I was one of them. Gamefreak should have either did what was necessary to keep every pokemon, or they should have started fresh with a massive overhaul that brought Pokemon up to date with other major Nintendo IPs. As it stands, Pokemon is way behind Nintendo's other IPs (and Nintendo itself is already graphically behind the games coming out on Xbox and Playstation) with no legitimate excuse. Having to port over every pokemon would be a legitimate enough excuse. But they couldn't even be bothered to do that. And the reason is because they don't have to, not because they can't. If Pokemon games stopped selling as much, Gamefreak would be forced to match the quality of other Nintendo IPs, but the games sell well no matter what, so they are complacent. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Idk. Maybe it was because I was on FB and the BotW board. But there was a lot of people constantly complaining. I heard more complaining about that then Pokmon, tbh. I do think Pokmon got more, but I rarely hear the complaints. And they are much more spread out then BotW, too...</quote> I just don't see it. Looking on the BotW board, I don't see nearly as much negative discussion as the Sw/Sh board, especially if I go back to when BotW was first released. Sw/Sh should be in its honeymoon period right now, when people are least critical of a game. And, I mean, just look at this: https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/pokemon-sword/user-reviews https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild/user-reviews </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BanjoBoomer 11/17/19 2:34:23 AM #165:	Destiny posted... even so, there's nothing unpolished about sword and shield. they're pretty damn polished. Yeah...so much polish... https://i.imgur.com/R0QmpxQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VG21OXN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/HooLqLX.mp4 <cite>BanjoBoomer posted [p:930253999] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>Destiny posted... </cite> <quote>even so, there's nothing unpolished about sword and shield. they're pretty damn polished.</quote> Yeah...so much polish... https://i.imgur.com/R0QmpxQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VG21OXN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/HooLqLX.mp4 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bulbasaur 11/17/19 2:39:15 AM #166:	BanjoBoomer posted... Yeah...so much polish... hey, i can cherry pick things too. polish =/= graphics. oh, and that clip of the pokemon rotating like that? yeah dragon quest 11 does that, too. ~~not to mention that specific screenshot of it is from the pc version and not the switch, because the switch version does not look even close to that~~ --- it's hard to read my thoughts i'm feeling guess they're not real then <cite>Bulbasaur posted [p:930254132] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>BanjoBoomer posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah...so much polish... </quote>hey, i can cherry pick things too. polish =/= graphics. oh, and that clip of the pokemon rotating like that? yeah dragon quest 11 does that, too. not to mention that specific screenshot of it is from the pc version and not the switch, because the switch version does not look even close to that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BanjoBoomer 11/17/19 2:58:29 AM #167:	I'm not sure why you posted a picture of a random unrelated game...please elaborate on why you think Vroom in the Night Sky is relevant to this discussion. And the Dragon Quest image is from Gamespot's review of the Switch version of Dragon Quest: https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/dragon-quest-xi-review-nintendo-switch-definitive-/1900-6416969/ But here's gameplay of Dragon Quest on Switch for your own viewing, so judge for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDvqMHlLi9E And Dragon Quest might have monsters rotate during battle, but not during the final story cinematic (spoilers): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk6YkEd-NQo <cite>BanjoBoomer posted [p:930254669] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure why you posted a picture of a random unrelated game...please elaborate on why you think Vroom in the Night Sky is relevant to this discussion. And the Dragon Quest image is from Gamespot's review of the Switch version of Dragon Quest: https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/dragon-quest-xi-review-nintendo-switch-definitive-/1900-6416969/ But here's gameplay of Dragon Quest on Switch for your own viewing, so judge for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDvqMHlLi9E And Dragon Quest might have monsters rotate during battle, but not during the final story cinematic (spoilers): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk6YkEd-NQo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/17/19 3:33:28 AM #168:	BanjoBoomer posted... How did you miss all the hype surrounding this image: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkv7E6DcDJ8&feature=youtu.be&t=121 Maybe you just weren't in the same parts of the internet I was in, but I saw tons of people getting hyped at the idea of a big Pokemon overhaul akin to BotW. And I was one of them. Gamefreak should have either done what was necessary to keep every pokemon, or they should have started fresh with a massive overhaul that brought Pokemon up to date with other major Nintendo IPs. As it stands, Pokemon is way behind Nintendo's other IPs (and Nintendo itself is already graphically behind the games coming out on Xbox and Playstation) with no legitimate excuse. Having to port over every pokemon would be a legitimate enough excuse. But they couldn't even be bothered to do that. And the reason is because they don't have to, not because they can't. If Pokemon games stopped selling as much, Gamefreak would be forced to match the quality of other Nintendo IPs, but the games sell well no matter what, so they are complacent. Like you said, we were probably just on different parts of the internet. All I heard was the same thing that is said every time a new pokemon game is announced. I heard no excitment about a complete overhaul of anything. And tbh, I would be surprise to hear that. People never seem to like when things change, apparently. I hear groaning and complaining about games changing constantly rather than anyone praising a game for the changes... As for what Gamefreak should have done, that's your opinion. They did what they did. And maybe they have their reasons. And since they only own 1/3 of pokemon, that can only do so much to "bring it up to standards with other major Nintendo IPs. As for graphics, they don't really matter to many people. It's just how it looks. I'd rather Pokemon look cartoon-y. I mean, have you seen those horrific pictures of what Pokemon would look like in real life? And if the game will always sell well, then obviously, it's not that much of a problem... BanjoBoomer posted... I just don't see it. Looking on the BotW board, I don't see nearly as much negative discussion as the Sw/Sh board, especially if I go back to when BotW was first released. Sw/Sh should be in its honeymoon period right now, when people are least critical of a game. And, I mean, just compare these: https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/pokemon-sword/user-reviews https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild/user-reviews Yes. Let's compare a game that just came out that people are mad about to a game that's been out for a while that people are fine with now. You can't compare them right now. The game literally just came out. Most of those reviews are probably from people just reviewing it to give it a bad score because the game wasn't made to their specifications because their favorite pokemon isn't in the game. Depending on how they get the reviews, a good amount of them might not even play the game. And that only shows reviews. I'm talking about the way social media (gamers, but not just people) were criticizing BotW because of how different it was. And not the normal criticizing that Zelda get for like every game that comes out, but it seemed to be more... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:930255438] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>How did you miss all the hype surrounding this image: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkv7E6DcDJ8&feature=youtu.be&t=121 Maybe you just weren't in the same parts of the internet I was in, but I saw tons of people getting hyped at the idea of a big Pokemon overhaul akin to BotW. And I was one of them. Gamefreak should have either done what was necessary to keep every pokemon, or they should have started fresh with a massive overhaul that brought Pokemon up to date with other major Nintendo IPs. As it stands, Pokemon is way behind Nintendo's other IPs (and Nintendo itself is already graphically behind the games coming out on Xbox and Playstation) with no legitimate excuse. Having to port over every pokemon would be a legitimate enough excuse. But they couldn't even be bothered to do that. And the reason is because they don't have to, not because they can't. If Pokemon games stopped selling as much, Gamefreak would be forced to match the quality of other Nintendo IPs, but the games sell well no matter what, so they are complacent.</quote> Like you said, we were probably just on different parts of the internet. All I heard was the same thing that is said every time a new pokemon game is announced. I heard no excitment about a complete overhaul of anything. And tbh, I would be surprise to hear that. People never seem to like when things change, apparently. I hear groaning and complaining about games changing constantly rather than anyone praising a game for the changes... As for what Gamefreak should have done, that's your opinion. They did what they did. And maybe they have their reasons. And since they only own 1/3 of pokemon, that can only do so much to "bring it up to standards with other major Nintendo IPs. As for graphics, they don't really matter to many people. It's just how it looks. I'd rather Pokemon look cartoon-y. I mean, have you seen those horrific pictures of what Pokemon would look like in real life? And if the game will always sell well, then obviously, it's not that much of a problem... BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>I just don't see it. Looking on the BotW board, I don't see nearly as much negative discussion as the Sw/Sh board, especially if I go back to when BotW was first released. Sw/Sh should be in its honeymoon period right now, when people are least critical of a game. And, I mean, just compare these: https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/pokemon-sword/user-reviews https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild/user-reviews</quote> Yes. Let's compare a game that just came out that people are mad about to a game that's been out for a while that people are fine with now. You can't compare them right now. The game literally just came out. Most of those reviews are probably from people just reviewing it to give it a bad score because the game wasn't made to their specifications because their favorite pokemon isn't in the game. Depending on how they get the reviews, a good amount of them might not even play the game. And that only shows reviews. I'm talking about the way social media (gamers, but not just people) were criticizing BotW because of how different it was. And not the normal criticizing that Zelda get for like every game that comes out, but it seemed to be more...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BanjoBoomer 11/17/19 3:54:47 AM #169:	LinkPizza posted... Like you said, we were probably just on different parts of the internet. All I heard was the same thing that is said every time a new pokemon game is announced. I heard no excitment about a complete overhaul of anything. And tbh, I would be surprise to hear that. People never seem to like when things change, apparently. I hear groaning and complaining about games changing constantly rather than anyone praising a game for the changes... As for what Gamefreak should have done, that's your opinion. They did what they did. And maybe they have their reasons. And since they only own 1/3 of pokemon, that can only do so much to "bring it up to standards with other major Nintendo IPs. As for graphics, they don't really matter to many people. It's just how it looks. I'd rather Pokemon look cartoon-y. I mean, have you seen those horrific pictures of what Pokemon would look like in real life? And if the game will always sell well, then obviously, it's not that much of a problem... Well, feel free to look at the comments section of that video if you want to see some examples of people being excited at the prospect of a BotW-styled Pokemon overhaul. Yeah, what they should have done is my opinion. But what's not my opinion is the fact that Pokemon is way behind its contemporaries from a purely technical level. And it's not about cartoony vs realistic. Neither BotW nor Dragon Quest 11 are realistic, yet they blow Sw/Sh out of the water. LinkPizza posted... Yes. Let's compare a game that just came out that people are mad about to a game that's been out for a while that people are fine with now. You can't compare them right now. The game literally just came out. Most of those reviews are probably from people just reviewing it to give it a bad score because the game wasn't made to their specifications because their favorite pokemon isn't in the game. Depending on how they get the reviews, a good amount of them might not even play the game. And that only shows reviews. I'm talking about the way social media (gamers, but not just people) were criticizing BotW because of how different it was. And not the normal criticizing that Zelda get for like every game that comes out, but it seemed to be more... BotW NEVER had a user review score anywhere near that low. People were gushing over it when it released. But alright, let's check back a year from now and see how the scores compare. <cite>BanjoBoomer posted [p:930255885] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Like you said, we were probably just on different parts of the internet. All I heard was the same thing that is said every time a new pokemon game is announced. I heard no excitment about a complete overhaul of anything. And tbh, I would be surprise to hear that. People never seem to like when things change, apparently. I hear groaning and complaining about games changing constantly rather than anyone praising a game for the changes... As for what Gamefreak should have done, that's your opinion. They did what they did. And maybe they have their reasons. And since they only own 1/3 of pokemon, that can only do so much to "bring it up to standards with other major Nintendo IPs. As for graphics, they don't really matter to many people. It's just how it looks. I'd rather Pokemon look cartoon-y. I mean, have you seen those horrific pictures of what Pokemon would look like in real life? And if the game will always sell well, then obviously, it's not that much of a problem...</quote> Well, feel free to look at the comments section of that video if you want to see some examples of people being excited at the prospect of a BotW-styled Pokemon overhaul. Yeah, what they should have done is my opinion. But what's not my opinion is the fact that Pokemon is way behind its contemporaries from a purely technical level. And it's not about cartoony vs realistic. Neither BotW nor Dragon Quest 11 are realistic, yet they blow Sw/Sh out of the water. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Yes. Let's compare a game that just came out that people are mad about to a game that's been out for a while that people are fine with now. You can't compare them right now. The game literally just came out. Most of those reviews are probably from people just reviewing it to give it a bad score because the game wasn't made to their specifications because their favorite pokemon isn't in the game. Depending on how they get the reviews, a good amount of them might not even play the game. And that only shows reviews. I'm talking about the way social media (gamers, but not just people) were criticizing BotW because of how different it was. And not the normal criticizing that Zelda get for like every game that comes out, but it seemed to be more...</quote> BotW NEVER had a user review score anywhere near that low. People were gushing over it when it released. But alright, let's check back a year from now and see how the scores compare. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/17/19 4:05:25 AM #170:	BanjoBoomer posted... Well, feel free to look at the comments section of that video if you want to see some examples of people being excited at the prospect of a BotW-styled Pokemon overhaul. Yeah, what they should have done is my opinion. But what's not my opinion is the fact that Pokemon is way behind its contemporaries from a purely technical level. And it's not about cartoony vs realistic. Neither BotW nor Dragon Quest 11 are realistic, yet they blow Sw/Sh out of the water. Sure. They do have better graphics. Though, that's not really the important part of the game. It just needs to be fun. Whether this game is fun or not, Idk yet. I don't have it. I think my roommate and brother have it, so I may check it out before I buy. But since I have nothing against the game, I'll probably get it. But there could definitely be reasons on why they still have them looking like the way they do. Or using the graphics they're using. Since I'm not developer, I'm not going to try to guess why... BanjoBoomer posted... BotW NEVER had a user review score anywhere near that low. People were gushing over it when it released. But alright, let's check back a year from now and see how the scores compare. And? User reviews are the end all. There's a bunch of people who don't do reviews. I was talking to real people. And they had lots of bad things to say about it. Some weren't really all that important. And were minor things that sometimes didn't matter. But some were the normal things you hear. Like no temples, hating shrines, weapon durability, etc. But people were constantly complaining about it. Again, i'm not saying it was as bad. I said it probably got less. But not a ton less. It also had a lot of hate against it and all those changes... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:930256080] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>Well, feel free to look at the comments section of that video if you want to see some examples of people being excited at the prospect of a BotW-styled Pokemon overhaul. Yeah, what they should have done is my opinion. But what's not my opinion is the fact that Pokemon is way behind its contemporaries from a purely technical level. And it's not about cartoony vs realistic. Neither BotW nor Dragon Quest 11 are realistic, yet they blow Sw/Sh out of the water. </quote> Sure. They do have better graphics. Though, that's not really the important part of the game. It just needs to be fun. Whether this game is fun or not, Idk yet. I don't have it. I think my roommate and brother have it, so I may check it out before I buy. But since I have nothing against the game, I'll probably get it. But there could definitely be reasons on why they still have them looking like the way they do. Or using the graphics they're using. Since I'm not developer, I'm not going to try to guess why... BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>BotW NEVER had a user review score anywhere near that low. People were gushing over it when it released. But alright, let's check back a year from now and see how the scores compare.</quote> And? User reviews are the end all. There's a bunch of people who don't do reviews. I was talking to real people. And they had lots of bad things to say about it. Some weren't really all that important. And were minor things that sometimes didn't matter. But some were the normal things you hear. Like no temples, hating shrines, weapon durability, etc. But people were constantly complaining about it. Again, i'm not saying it was as bad. I said it probably got less. But not a ton less. It also had a lot of hate against it and all those changes...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BanjoBoomer 11/17/19 4:57:07 AM #171:	LinkPizza posted... Sure. They do have better graphics. Though, that's not really the important part of the game. It just needs to be fun. Whether this game is fun or not, Idk yet. I don't have it. I think my roommate and brother have it, so I may check it out before I buy. But since I have nothing against the game, I'll probably get it. But there could definitely be reasons on why they still have them looking like the way they do. Or using the graphics they're using. Since I'm not developer, I'm not going to try to guess why... The reason is obvious: they don't need to. Consumers aren't holding their feet to the fire, and they don't have the kind of self-motivation necessary to implement radical improvements without being forced. With every technical advancement in the Pokemon series, at least starting with the DS games, it feels like Gamefreak was dragged kicking and screaming to get to that level. LinkPizza posted... And? User reviews are the end all. There's a bunch of people who don't do reviews. I was talking to real people. And they had lots of bad things to say about it. Some weren't really all that important. And were minor things that sometimes didn't matter. But some were the normal things you hear. Like no temples, hating shrines, weapon durability, etc. But people were constantly complaining about it. Again, i'm not saying it was as bad. I said it probably got less. But not a ton less. It also had a lot of hate against it and all those changes... Your experiences are anecdotal, so there's not much I can say in response to that. All I can do is look at the evidence I can find on the internet, and I'm not seeing any evidence that BotW caused anywhere near as much outrage as Sword and Shield. <cite>BanjoBoomer posted [p:930256946] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Sure. They do have better graphics. Though, that's not really the important part of the game. It just needs to be fun. Whether this game is fun or not, Idk yet. I don't have it. I think my roommate and brother have it, so I may check it out before I buy. But since I have nothing against the game, I'll probably get it. But there could definitely be reasons on why they still have them looking like the way they do. Or using the graphics they're using. Since I'm not developer, I'm not going to try to guess why...</quote> The reason is obvious: they don't need to. Consumers aren't holding their feet to the fire, and they don't have the kind of self-motivation necessary to implement radical improvements without being forced. With every technical advancement in the Pokemon series, at least starting with the DS games, it feels like Gamefreak was dragged kicking and screaming to get to that level. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>And? User reviews are the end all. There's a bunch of people who don't do reviews. I was talking to real people. And they had lots of bad things to say about it. Some weren't really all that important. And were minor things that sometimes didn't matter. But some were the normal things you hear. Like no temples, hating shrines, weapon durability, etc. But people were constantly complaining about it. Again, i'm not saying it was as bad. I said it probably got less. But not a ton less. It also had a lot of hate against it and all those changes...</quote> Your experiences are anecdotal, so there's not much I can say in response to that. All I can do is look at the evidence I can find on the internet, and I'm not seeing any evidence that BotW caused anywhere near as much outrage as Sword and Shield. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Destiny 11/17/19 7:34:57 AM #172:	BanjoBoomer posted... please elaborate on why you think Vroom in the Night Sky is relevant to this discussion. how about you elaborate on why you think Zelda and dragon quest are relevant to pokemon. --- it feels like someone took a crack pipe, lit it with a torch light, and threw it on a gas line there is fire everywhere. <cite>Destiny posted [p:930259307] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>please elaborate on why you think Vroom in the Night Sky is relevant to this discussion.</quote> how about you elaborate on why you think Zelda and dragon quest are relevant to pokemon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Destiny 11/17/19 7:37:07 AM #173:	spoilers: they aren't --- it feels like someone took a crack pipe, lit it with a torch light, and threw it on a gas line there is fire everywhere. <cite>Destiny posted [p:930259342] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>spoilers: they aren't</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BanjoBoomer 11/17/19 7:52:13 AM #174:	Destiny posted... how about you elaborate on why you think Zelda and dragon quest are relevant to pokemon. They are $60 Switch games with graphics and world design that are vastly superior to Sw/Sh, which is also a $60 Switch game. Wait...are you trying to say that I can't compare Sw/Sh to better games because there also happens to be worse games out there? Is that what you're saying? Please tell me I'm misunderstanding you. <cite>BanjoBoomer posted [p:930259600] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>Destiny posted... </cite> <quote>how about you elaborate on why you think Zelda and dragon quest are relevant to pokemon.</quote> They are $60 Switch games with graphics and world design that are vastly superior to Sw/Sh, which is also a $60 Switch game. Wait...are you trying to say that I can't compare Sw/Sh to better games because there also happens to be worse games out there? Is that what you're saying? Please tell me I'm misunderstanding you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/17/19 12:56:00 PM #175:	BanjoBoomer posted... The reason is obvious: they don't need to. Consumers aren't holding their feet to the fire, and they don't have the kind of self-motivation necessary to implement radical improvements without being forced. With every technical advancement in the Pokemon series, at least starting with the DS games, it feels like Gamefreak was dragged kicking and screaming to get to that level. Maybe. And people still want the game. If all that other stuff was really that important, people would probably not buy the game, and cause them to do something different. Unless there's another reason. If there is another reason, then they might just stop making the games. Either way, the games are apparently enough for people that they keep buying them... BanjoBoomer posted... Your experiences are anecdotal, so there's not much I can say in response to that. All I can do is look at the evidence I can find on the internet, and I'm not seeing any evidence that BotW caused anywhere near as much outrage as Sword and Shield. Sure. But probably more reliable than user reviews. Which only a small portion of people who have the game probably do. Like Zelda is my favorite game series, but I've never done a review. For the 3.84 million copies that BotW sold, only 13,133 reviews are on that site. That's 0.34% Not even one percent. Not even half a percent. And again, I didn't say it was as much. But it wasn't that much lower. It's hard to go back and find stuff, though. Social media doesn't keep everything well. There were some topics on this site, though some were probably deleted before they got archived, or were modded and are now gone. There are probably some post of FB, but who knows if they are still there. Or in whoever had the accounts are still there. It's hard to just go back and find any proof of the outrage. Though, to think there was none or very little would definitely be wrong. There was a lot of outrage about that game as well... People even still bad mouth it on hear every once in a while. Not as much as they probably did. As I didn't frequent this board when the game came out, I have no idea how PotD and CE were... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:930268904] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>The reason is obvious: they don't need to. Consumers aren't holding their feet to the fire, and they don't have the kind of self-motivation necessary to implement radical improvements without being forced. With every technical advancement in the Pokemon series, at least starting with the DS games, it feels like Gamefreak was dragged kicking and screaming to get to that level.</quote> Maybe. And people still want the game. If all that other stuff was really that important, people would probably not buy the game, and cause them to do something different. Unless there's another reason. If there is another reason, then they might just stop making the games. Either way, the games are apparently enough for people that they keep buying them... BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>Your experiences are anecdotal, so there's not much I can say in response to that. All I can do is look at the evidence I can find on the internet, and I'm not seeing any evidence that BotW caused anywhere near as much outrage as Sword and Shield.</quote> Sure. But probably more reliable than user reviews. Which only a small portion of people who have the game probably do. Like Zelda is my favorite game series, but I've never done a review. For the 3.84 million copies that BotW sold, only 13,133 reviews are on that site. That's 0.34% Not even one percent. Not even half a percent. And again, I didn't say it was as much. But it wasn't that much lower. It's hard to go back and find stuff, though. Social media doesn't keep everything well. There were some topics on this site, though some were probably deleted before they got archived, or were modded and are now gone. There are probably some post of FB, but who knows if they are still there. Or in whoever had the accounts are still there. It's hard to just go back and find any proof of the outrage. Though, to think there was none or very little would definitely be wrong. There was a lot of outrage about that game as well... People even still bad mouth it on hear every once in a while. Not as much as they probably did. As I didn't frequent this board when the game came out, I have no idea how PotD and CE were...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BanjoBoomer 11/17/19 2:10:17 PM #176:	LinkPizza posted... Maybe. And people still want the game. If all that other stuff was really that important, people would probably not buy the game, and cause them to do something different. Unless there's another reason. If there is another reason, then they might just stop making the games. Either way, the games are apparently enough for people that they keep buying them... Well, there's no disagreement there. Obviously people are going to keep buying them. But that doesn't mean anything when it comes to what is important to me, personally. LinkPizza posted... Sure. But probably more reliable than user reviews. Which only a small portion of people who have the game probably do. Like Zelda is my favorite game series, but I've never done a review. For the 3.84 million copies that BotW sold, only 13,133 reviews are on that site. That's 0.34% Not even one percent. Not even half a percent. And again, I didn't say it was as much. But it wasn't that much lower. It's hard to go back and find stuff, though. Social media doesn't keep everything well. There were some topics on this site, though some were probably deleted before they got archived, or were modded and are now gone. There are probably some post of FB, but who knows if they are still there. Or in whoever had the accounts are still there. It's hard to just go back and find any proof of the outrage. Though, to think there was none or very little would definitely be wrong. There was a lot of outrage about that game as well... People even still bad mouth it on hear every once in a while. Not as much as they probably did. As I didn't frequent this board when the game came out, I have no idea how PotD and CE were... Well, I'm not just going to take your word for it when all evidence points to BotW being far less controversial than Sword and Shield. Like, I've never seen anything, in any Nintendo franchise, that inspired fans to make things like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgNxZdH69sU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVEBJe7RYfY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQu2Z-Kauj8 Say what you will about how it personally affects you, but this triggered an insanely passionate response from the fanbase, to an unprecedented level. <cite>BanjoBoomer posted [p:930272115] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Maybe. And people still want the game. If all that other stuff was really that important, people would probably not buy the game, and cause them to do something different. Unless there's another reason. If there is another reason, then they might just stop making the games. Either way, the games are apparently enough for people that they keep buying them...</quote> Well, there's no disagreement there. Obviously people are going to keep buying them. But that doesn't mean anything when it comes to what is important to me, personally. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Sure. But probably more reliable than user reviews. Which only a small portion of people who have the game probably do. Like Zelda is my favorite game series, but I've never done a review. For the 3.84 million copies that BotW sold, only 13,133 reviews are on that site. That's 0.34% Not even one percent. Not even half a percent. And again, I didn't say it was as much. But it wasn't that much lower. It's hard to go back and find stuff, though. Social media doesn't keep everything well. There were some topics on this site, though some were probably deleted before they got archived, or were modded and are now gone. There are probably some post of FB, but who knows if they are still there. Or in whoever had the accounts are still there. It's hard to just go back and find any proof of the outrage. Though, to think there was none or very little would definitely be wrong. There was a lot of outrage about that game as well... People even still bad mouth it on hear every once in a while. Not as much as they probably did. As I didn't frequent this board when the game came out, I have no idea how PotD and CE were...</quote> Well, I'm not just going to take your word for it when all evidence points to BotW being far less controversial than Sword and Shield. Like, I've never seen anything, in any Nintendo franchise, that inspired fans to make things like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgNxZdH69sU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVEBJe7RYfY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQu2Z-Kauj8 Say what you will about how it personally affects you, but this triggered an insanely passionate response from the fanbase, to an unprecedented level. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/17/19 3:38:08 PM #177:	BanjoBoomer posted... Well, there's no disagreement there. Obviously people are going to keep buying them. But that doesn't mean anything when it comes to what is important to me, personally. True. And thats why you shouldnt buy it if its not worth it to you. That also might mean it may not be trying to appeal to your demographic anymore. Which is why its not changing to appeal to anyone not in their demographic, I guess... BanjoBoomer posted... Well, I'm not just going to take your word for it when all evidence points to BotW being far less controversial than Sword and Shield. Like, I've never seen anything, in any Nintendo franchise, that inspired fans to make things like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgNxZdH69sU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVEBJe7RYfY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQu2Z-Kauj8 Say what you will about how it personally affects you, but this triggered an insanely passionate response from the fanbase, to an unprecedented level. Im not saying you should take my word for. Just like Im not taking your word for it. I now there is outrage now. And I hear from you that there was excitement for an overhaul somewhere. Neither of us can just take each others words at face value. And thats fine. Though to say there was no outrage of BotW at all, or that is was a very minimal amount, would definitely be wrong. And maybe you arent listening to what Im saying, but I dish.to say it was more that sword and shield. I said it was probably a good amount less the very first time I mentioned it. But you keep acting like Im saying there was more. I keep saying there wasnt. Though there was still a lot. And if you havent seen stuff like this in the internet before, you just havent gone deep enough. There plenty of stuff like this that appears. And disappears. Though, Reddit can usually help find whatever youre looking for. Fans make all kinds of stuff like this. Its just fan made animations. Mixing things together. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:930276110] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>Well, there's no disagreement there. Obviously people are going to keep buying them. But that doesn't mean anything when it comes to what is important to me, personally.</quote> True. And thats why you shouldnt buy it if its not worth it to you. That also might mean it may not be trying to appeal to your demographic anymore. Which is why its not changing to appeal to anyone not in their demographic, I guess... BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>Well, I'm not just going to take your word for it when all evidence points to BotW being far less controversial than Sword and Shield. Like, I've never seen anything, in any Nintendo franchise, that inspired fans to make things like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgNxZdH69sU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVEBJe7RYfY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQu2Z-Kauj8 Say what you will about how it personally affects you, but this triggered an insanely passionate response from the fanbase, to an unprecedented level.</quote> Im not saying you should take my word for. Just like Im not taking your word for it. I now there is outrage now. And I hear from you that there was excitement for an overhaul somewhere. Neither of us can just take each others words at face value. And thats fine. Though to say there was no outrage of BotW at all, or that is was a very minimal amount, would definitely be wrong. And maybe you arent listening to what Im saying, but I dish.to say it was more that sword and shield. I said it was probably a good amount less the very first time I mentioned it. But you keep acting like Im saying there was more. I keep saying there wasnt. Though there was still a lot. And if you havent seen stuff like this in the internet before, you just havent gone deep enough. There plenty of stuff like this that appears. And disappears. Though, Reddit can usually help find whatever youre looking for. Fans make all kinds of stuff like this. Its just fan made animations. Mixing things together.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bulbasaur 11/17/19 4:14:03 PM #178:	BanjoBoomer posted... They are $60 Switch games with graphics and world design that are vastly superior to Sw/Sh, which is also a $60 Switch game. Wait...are you trying to say that I can't compare Sw/Sh to better games because there also happens to be worse games out there? Is that what you're saying? Please tell me I'm misunderstanding you. not at all, but you wont be taken seriously. you compare a game in a series to another game in the same series. otherwise i can compare vroom in the night sky to everything and everything instantly looks far better. you're also comparing games made by entire different developers, with wildly different development times. dragon quest 11 started development in 2013. botw started development in 2014. pokemon sword and shield started development in 2017, and with a development team far smaller than either zelda or dragon quest. pokemon sword and shield is pokemon. it was never going to be the next crysis, it was never going to be a ubisoft open world game. it was only going to be pokemon, and everything shown to us only further cemented the fact that it's just pokemon. gamefreak isn't going to wildly change how they make pokemon, because it's just pokemon. the fact it's on switch doesn't mean a single goddamn thing, it just means it's now on switch. that's it. any expectations that it would be more than it ever would have been is the fault of the person who built it up in their head to be more than it was. --- it's hard to read my thoughts i'm feeling guess they're not real then <cite>Bulbasaur posted [p:930277796] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>BanjoBoomer posted... </cite> <quote>They are $60 Switch games with graphics and world design that are vastly superior to Sw/Sh, which is also a $60 Switch game. Wait...are you trying to say that I can't compare Sw/Sh to better games because there also happens to be worse games out there? Is that what you're saying? Please tell me I'm misunderstanding you.</quote>not at all, but you wont be taken seriously. you compare a game in a series to another game in the same series. otherwise i can compare vroom in the night sky to everything and everything instantly looks far better. you're also comparing games made by entire different developers, with wildly different development times. dragon quest 11 started development in 2013. botw started development in 2014. pokemon sword and shield started development in 2017, and with a development team far smaller than either zelda or dragon quest. pokemon sword and shield is pokemon. it was never going to be the next crysis, it was never going to be a ubisoft open world game. it was only going to be pokemon, and everything shown to us only further cemented the fact that it's just pokemon. gamefreak isn't going to wildly change how they make pokemon, because it's just pokemon. the fact it's on switch doesn't mean a single goddamn thing, it just means it's now on switch. that's it. any expectations that it would be more than it ever would have been is the fault of the person who built it up in their head to be more than it was. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nade Duck 11/17/19 4:19:40 PM #179:	Sarcasthma posted... adjl posted... Nade Duck posted... people who actively want less of something are strange. Large chunks of Japan actively wanted less water in March 2011. Was that so strange? C'mon adjl, that was in bad taste. was fuckin hilarious tho --- https://imgur.com/ElACjJD "Most of the time, I have a whole lot more sperm inside me than most women do." - adjl <cite>Nade Duck posted [p:930278045] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>Sarcasthma posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Nade Duck posted...</cite> <quote>people who actively want less of something are strange.</quote> Large chunks of Japan actively wanted less water in March 2011. Was that so strange?</quote> C'mon adjl, that was in bad taste.</quote> was fuckin hilarious tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sarcasthma 11/17/19 4:49:38 PM #180:	I'm just angry because he's a Canadian, tbh. --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. <cite>Sarcasthma posted [p:930279479] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>I'm just angry because he's a Canadian, tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 11/17/19 5:12:01 PM #181:	Eh, no regrets. The point stands that there is such a thing as having too much of a good thing, and wanting less than that threshold is not unreasonable. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:930280530] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>Eh, no regrets. The point stands that there is such a thing as having too much of a good thing, and wanting less than that threshold is not unreasonable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I_Abibde 11/17/19 8:29:55 PM #182:	Bulbasaur posted... pokemon sword and shield is pokemon. A post like this feels a bit janky coming from a bloke named Bulbasaur. --- -- I Abibde / Samuraiter Laughing at Game FAQs since 2002. <cite>I_Abibde posted [p:930290617] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>Bulbasaur posted...</cite> <quote>pokemon sword and shield is pokemon.</quote> A post like this feels a bit janky coming from a bloke named Bulbasaur.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BanjoBoomer 11/17/19 10:52:51 PM #183:	LinkPizza posted... True. And thats why you shouldnt buy it if its not worth it to you. That also might mean it may not be trying to appeal to your demographic anymore. Which is why its not changing to appeal to anyone not in their demographic, I guess I agree, I don't think Gamefreak particularly cares about hardcore longtime fans anymore, or even what kids would enjoy most (I sure as hell remember loving having access to every pokemon as a kid), outside of what they can milk from people by trapping their Pokemon in Home. Pokemon Go brought in too many gullible casuals, so dedicated fans are expendable. LinkPizza posted... Im not saying you should take my word for. Just like Im not taking your word for it. I now there is outrage now. And I hear from you that there was excitement for an overhaul somewhere. Neither of us can just take each others words at face value. And thats fine. Though to say there was no outrage of BotW at all, or that is was a very minimal amount, would definitely be wrong. And maybe you arent listening to what Im saying, but I dish.to say it was more that sword and shield. I said it was probably a good amount less the very first time I mentioned it. But you keep acting like Im saying there was more. I keep saying there wasnt. Though there was still a lot. And if you havent seen stuff like this in the internet before, you just havent gone deep enough. There plenty of stuff like this that appears. And disappears. Though, Reddit can usually help find whatever youre looking for. Fans make all kinds of stuff like this. Its just fan made animations. Mixing things together It sounded before like you were saying BotW caused a similar reaction to Sw/Sh. All I'm saying is that not every game prompts the same amount of backlash, and Gamefreak had options that would have prompted less backlash. Bulbasaur posted... not at all, but you wont be taken seriously. you compare a game in a series to another game in the same series. otherwise i can compare vroom in the night sky to everything and everything instantly looks far better. you're also comparing games made by entire different developers, with wildly different development times. dragon quest 11 started development in 2013. botw started development in 2014. pokemon sword and shield started development in 2017, and with a development team far smaller than either zelda or dragon quest. Sorry, but this is the dumbest logic I've ever heard on gamefaqs, and that says a lot. It's unfathomable that someone could actually think this way. If I slap together a shitty burger by myself, and then charge the same price as a gourmet meal made by a team of professional chefs, you bet your ass people have every right to compare my shitty burger to the gourmet meal, doesn't matter if fewer people worked on the shitty burger or if it was made under heavy time constraints. And it definitely doesn'tmatter if someone down the street is selling even shittier burgers than I am. I'm just....wow.... <cite>BanjoBoomer posted [p:930297404] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>True. And thats why you shouldnt buy it if its not worth it to you. That also might mean it may not be trying to appeal to your demographic anymore. Which is why its not changing to appeal to anyone not in their demographic, I guess</quote> I agree, I don't think Gamefreak particularly cares about hardcore longtime fans anymore, or even what kids would enjoy most (I sure as hell remember loving having access to every pokemon as a kid), outside of what they can milk from people by trapping their Pokemon in Home. Pokemon Go brought in too many gullible casuals, so dedicated fans are expendable. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Im not saying you should take my word for. Just like Im not taking your word for it. I now there is outrage now. And I hear from you that there was excitement for an overhaul somewhere. Neither of us can just take each others words at face value. And thats fine. Though to say there was no outrage of BotW at all, or that is was a very minimal amount, would definitely be wrong. And maybe you arent listening to what Im saying, but I dish.to say it was more that sword and shield. I said it was probably a good amount less the very first time I mentioned it. But you keep acting like Im saying there was more. I keep saying there wasnt. Though there was still a lot. And if you havent seen stuff like this in the internet before, you just havent gone deep enough. There plenty of stuff like this that appears. And disappears. Though, Reddit can usually help find whatever youre looking for. Fans make all kinds of stuff like this. Its just fan made animations. Mixing things together</quote> It sounded before like you were saying BotW caused a similar reaction to Sw/Sh. All I'm saying is that not every game prompts the same amount of backlash, and Gamefreak had options that would have prompted less backlash. Bulbasaur posted... </cite> <quote>not at all, but you wont be taken seriously. you compare a game in a series to another game in the same series. otherwise i can compare vroom in the night sky to everything and everything instantly looks far better. you're also comparing games made by entire different developers, with wildly different development times. dragon quest 11 started development in 2013. botw started development in 2014. pokemon sword and shield started development in 2017, and with a development team far smaller than either zelda or dragon quest.</quote> Sorry, but this is the dumbest logic I've ever heard on gamefaqs, and that says a lot. It's unfathomable that someone could actually think this way. If I slap together a shitty burger by myself, and then charge the same price as a gourmet meal made by a team of professional chefs, you bet your ass people have every right to compare my shitty burger to the gourmet meal, doesn't matter if fewer people worked on the shitty burger or if it was made under heavy time constraints. And it definitely doesn'tmatter if someone down the street is selling even shittier burgers than I am. I'm just....wow.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/17/19 10:59:44 PM #184:	BanjoBoomer posted... I agree, I don't think Gamefreak particularly cares about hardcore longtime fans anymore, outside of what they can milk from people by trapping their Pokemon in Home. Pokemon Go brought in too many gullible sheep, so longterm fans aee expendable. It's not just that. I think they have always sold them to kids more. Long term fans just seemed to stick around... So, they let them... BanjoBoomer posted... It sounded before like you were saying BotW caused a similar reaction to Sw/Sh. All I'm saying is that not every game prompts the same amount of backlash, and Gamefreak had options that would have prompted less backlash. I think it is similar. Though in my first post mentioning it, I said probably not as much. But it did cause a big stir. The FB groups around Nintendo and Zelda that I was in were going crazy for a while. It calmed down after a bit, just like this one will. But they were pissed. Even on the boards here, people were pretty angry. You could tell certain ones more than others. But a lot of random people, as well... And you think they could have gotten less backlash, but that may not be true... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:930297729] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>I agree, I don't think Gamefreak particularly cares about hardcore longtime fans anymore, outside of what they can milk from people by trapping their Pokemon in Home. Pokemon Go brought in too many gullible sheep, so longterm fans aee expendable.</quote> It's not just that. I think they have always sold them to kids more. Long term fans just seemed to stick around... So, they let them... BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>It sounded before like you were saying BotW caused a similar reaction to Sw/Sh. All I'm saying is that not every game prompts the same amount of backlash, and Gamefreak had options that would have prompted less backlash.</quote> I think it is similar. Though in my first post mentioning it, I said probably not as much. But it did cause a big stir. The FB groups around Nintendo and Zelda that I was in were going crazy for a while. It calmed down after a bit, just like this one will. But they were pissed. Even on the boards here, people were pretty angry. You could tell certain ones more than others. But a lot of random people, as well... And you think they could have gotten less backlash, but that may not be true...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BanjoBoomer 11/17/19 11:04:06 PM #185:	LinkPizza posted... It's not just that. I think they have always sold them to kids more. Long term fans just seemed to stick around... So, they let them... Well, even as a kid I wouldn't have been happy about dexit. I would have hated so many of my favorites being cut. But I also would have still bought the game. So yeah, obviously Gamefreak will still make money off of kids no matter what, even if they aren't giving kids the best possible experience. LinkPizza posted... I think it is similar. Though in my first post mentioning it, I said probably not as much. But it did cause a big stir. The FB groups around Nintendo and Zelda that I was in were going crazy for a while. It calmed down after a bit, just like this one will. But they were pissed. Even on the boards here, people were pretty angry. You could tell certain ones more than others. But a lot of random people, as well... And you think they could have gotten less backlash, but that may not be true... Well, there's no way to prove it either way, so we'll just have to agree to disagree on this point. But it will be interesting to see how things are in the pokemon fanbase a year from now. I predict the backlash will never die, but it will also never make Gamefreak change. It'll be like how the cries of the Banjo-Kazooie fanbase for a true Banjo sequel have gone completely ignored by Microsoft for decades. But we'll see how it goes. <cite>BanjoBoomer posted [p:930297944] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>It's not just that. I think they have always sold them to kids more. Long term fans just seemed to stick around... So, they let them...</quote> Well, even as a kid I wouldn't have been happy about dexit. I would have hated so many of my favorites being cut. But I also would have still bought the game. So yeah, obviously Gamefreak will still make money off of kids no matter what, even if they aren't giving kids the best possible experience. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>I think it is similar. Though in my first post mentioning it, I said probably not as much. But it did cause a big stir. The FB groups around Nintendo and Zelda that I was in were going crazy for a while. It calmed down after a bit, just like this one will. But they were pissed. Even on the boards here, people were pretty angry. You could tell certain ones more than others. But a lot of random people, as well... And you think they could have gotten less backlash, but that may not be true...</quote> Well, there's no way to prove it either way, so we'll just have to agree to disagree on this point. But it will be interesting to see how things are in the pokemon fanbase a year from now. I predict the backlash will never die, but it will also never make Gamefreak change. It'll be like how the cries of the Banjo-Kazooie fanbase for a true Banjo sequel have gone completely ignored by Microsoft for decades. But we'll see how it goes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/18/19 12:41:42 AM #186:	BanjoBoomer posted... Well, even as a kid I wouldn't have been happy about dexit. I would have hated so many of my favorites being cut. But I also would have still bought the game. So yeah, obviously Gamefreak will still make money off of kids no matter what, even if they aren't giving kids the best possible experience. Maybe. But kids probably care less... They seem to, at least... Most people complaining are older fans... BanjoBoomer posted... Well, there's no way to prove it either way, so we'll just have to agree to disagree on this point. But it will be interesting to see how things are in the pokemon fanbase a year from now. I predict the backlash will never die, but it will also never make Gamefreak change. It'll be like how the cries of the Banjo-Kazooie fanbase for a true Banjo sequel have gone completely ignored by Microsoft for decades. But we'll see how it goes. Yeah. That's fine. Agree to disagree. I think it'll die down. Just like every other backlash. At least, I think it will... Either people will buy the game and like it. Or prbably eventually forget and move on. Not everyone, but it never is... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:930301686] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>Well, even as a kid I wouldn't have been happy about dexit. I would have hated so many of my favorites being cut. But I also would have still bought the game. So yeah, obviously Gamefreak will still make money off of kids no matter what, even if they aren't giving kids the best possible experience.</quote> Maybe. But kids probably care less... They seem to, at least... Most people complaining are older fans... BanjoBoomer posted...</cite> <quote>Well, there's no way to prove it either way, so we'll just have to agree to disagree on this point. But it will be interesting to see how things are in the pokemon fanbase a year from now. I predict the backlash will never die, but it will also never make Gamefreak change. It'll be like how the cries of the Banjo-Kazooie fanbase for a true Banjo sequel have gone completely ignored by Microsoft for decades. But we'll see how it goes.</quote> Yeah. That's fine. Agree to disagree. I think it'll die down. Just like every other backlash. At least, I think it will... Either people will buy the game and like it. Or prbably eventually forget and move on. Not everyone, but it never is...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PK_Spam 11/18/19 8:28:50 AM #187:	Is LinkPizza like half of these posts lmfao? --- https://imgur.com/hCHZS1f <cite>PK_Spam posted [p:930311302] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>Is LinkPizza like half of these posts lmfao? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/18/19 8:36:43 AM #188:	PK_Spam posted... Is LinkPizza like half of these posts lmfao? Probably close to it. Though, Ive been having a conversation with Banjo, whos also talking to Helly. So, Banjo might have more than me. But I havent counted... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:930311497] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>PK_Spam posted...</cite> <quote>Is LinkPizza like half of these posts lmfao?</quote> Probably close to it. Though, Ive been having a conversation with Banjo, whos also talking to Helly. So, Banjo might have more than me. But I havent counted...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sarcasthma 11/18/19 8:55:59 AM #189:	PK_Spam posted... Is LinkPizza like half of these posts lmfao? Nah, he's currently at 26%. --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. <cite>Sarcasthma posted [p:930311969] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>PK_Spam posted...</cite> <quote>Is LinkPizza like half of these posts lmfao? </quote> Nah, he's currently at 26%.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 11/18/19 4:01:09 PM #190:	Lol, some modder is importing all the old pokemon, already. https://www.polygon.com/2019/11/18/20970489/pokemon-sword-shield-hacking-modding-national-dex-cut-monsters-nintendo-switch Literally all you had to do was copy/paste all the old entries to not piss off half your base. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZNqaAh6iLU <cite>Yellow posted [p:930329933] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>Lol, some modder is importing all the old pokemon, already. https://www.polygon.com/2019/11/18/20970489/pokemon-sword-shield-hacking-modding-national-dex-cut-monsters-nintendo-switch Literally all you had to do was copy/paste all the old entries to not piss off half your base. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BanjoBoomer 11/19/19 12:05:40 AM #191:	Yellow posted... Lol, some modder is importing all the old pokemon, already. https://www.polygon.com/2019/11/18/20970489/pokemon-sword-shield-hacking-modding-national-dex-cut-monsters-nintendo-switch Literally all you had to do was copy/paste all the old entries to not piss off half your base. Lol It'll be hilarious a year from now when people are playing modded versions of Sw/Sh with the full dex and Gamefreak's defenders will still say it was too much work for them to do. <cite>BanjoBoomer posted [p:930352908] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>Yellow posted... </cite> <quote>Lol, some modder is importing all the old pokemon, already. https://www.polygon.com/2019/11/18/20970489/pokemon-sword-shield-hacking-modding-national-dex-cut-monsters-nintendo-switch Literally all you had to do was copy/paste all the old entries to not piss off half your base.</quote> Lol It'll be hilarious a year from now when people are playing modded versions of Sw/Sh with the full dex and Gamefreak's defenders will still say it was too much work for them to do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bulbasaur 11/19/19 12:33:45 AM #192:	BanjoBoomer posted... Lol It'll be hilarious a year from now when people are playing modded versions of Sw/Sh with the full dex and Gamefreak's defenders will still say it was too much work for them to do. it would have, because nothing will look correctly. the best ones to import would be directly from the lets go games, as they're already retextured, rigged, and shaded. if you import from one of the 3ds games, you're going to get a very shitty looking pokemon, since no work will have been done on it to make it look in line with the new textures and shaders in sword and shield. --- it's hard to read my thoughts i'm feeling guess they're not real then <cite>Bulbasaur posted [p:930353796] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>BanjoBoomer posted... </cite> <quote>Lol It'll be hilarious a year from now when people are playing modded versions of Sw/Sh with the full dex and Gamefreak's defenders will still say it was too much work for them to do.</quote>it would have, because nothing will look correctly. the best ones to import would be directly from the lets go games, as they're already retextured, rigged, and shaded. if you import from one of the 3ds games, you're going to get a very shitty looking pokemon, since no work will have been done on it to make it look in line with the new textures and shaders in sword and shield. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bulbasaur 11/19/19 12:38:33 AM #193:	BanjoBoomer posted... Sorry, but this is the dumbest logic I've ever heard on gamefaqs, and that says a lot. It's unfathomable that someone could actually think this way. considering it's the proper way to think, it's reasonable. BanjoBoomer posted... If I slap together a shitty burger by myself, and then charge the same price as a gourmet meal made by a team of professional chefs, you bet your ass people have every right to compare my shitty burger to the gourmet meal, doesn't matter if fewer people worked on the shitty burger or if it was made under heavy time constraints. And it definitely doesn'tmatter if someone down the street is selling even shittier burgers than I am. this is a fine analogy, albeit stupid, since you're comparing a hamburger to another hamburger. you're trying to compare pokemon to zelda. they are two entirely different games, in two entirely different genres. zelda would be steak, while pokemon is just a hamburger. conversely, you're also trying to compare pokemon to dragon quest. again, two entirely different games. to go in line with your analogy, dragon quest would be a fish sandwich, while pokemon is just a hamburger. dragon quest is the closest comparison you made, in that they're both rpgs, but they are both wildly different rpgs in that they're still not as similar as you think they should be. a more apt comparison to dragon quest would be tales of, or final fantasy. which i don't see you trying to compare to pokemon either, by the way, because they're also nothing alike. so if you want to compare pokemon to things that are nothing like it, then i'm going to compare pokemon to vroom in the night sky. or, if you want to go even further down the road of shit comparisons, i'm going to compare pokemon to pong. see how that works? --- it's hard to read my thoughts i'm feeling guess they're not real then <cite>Bulbasaur posted [p:930353946] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>BanjoBoomer posted... </cite> <quote>Sorry, but this is the dumbest logic I've ever heard on gamefaqs, and that says a lot. It's unfathomable that someone could actually think this way.</quote>considering it's the proper way to think, it's reasonable. BanjoBoomer posted... </cite> <quote>If I slap together a shitty burger by myself, and then charge the same price as a gourmet meal made by a team of professional chefs, you bet your ass people have every right to compare my shitty burger to the gourmet meal, doesn't matter if fewer people worked on the shitty burger or if it was made under heavy time constraints. And it definitely doesn'tmatter if someone down the street is selling even shittier burgers than I am.</quote>this is a fine analogy, albeit stupid, since you're comparing a hamburger to another hamburger. you're trying to compare pokemon to zelda. they are two entirely different games, in two entirely different genres. zelda would be steak, while pokemon is just a hamburger. conversely, you're also trying to compare pokemon to dragon quest. again, two entirely different games. to go in line with your analogy, dragon quest would be a fish sandwich, while pokemon is just a hamburger. dragon quest is the closest comparison you made, in that they're both rpgs, but they are both wildly different rpgs in that they're still not as similar as you think they should be. a more apt comparison to dragon quest would be tales of, or final fantasy. which i don't see you trying to compare to pokemon either, by the way, because they're also nothing alike. so if you want to compare pokemon to things that are nothing like it, then i'm going to compare pokemon to vroom in the night sky. or, if you want to go even further down the road of shit comparisons, i'm going to compare pokemon to pong. see how that works? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OrangeDawn 11/19/19 3:27:00 AM #194:	lol the shilling is still off the charts I see --- 3DS Friend Code: 3308-5843-0863 Town: Virginia <cite>OrangeDawn posted [p:930358096] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>lol the shilling is still off the charts I see</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 11/19/19 4:17:22 AM #195:	Bulbasaur posted... zelda would be steak, while pokemon is just a hamburger. Zelda is a $5 steak, pokemon is a $5 hamburger. They're not the same thing and snobs want the steak anyway but they're the same value. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:930358986] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>Bulbasaur posted...</cite> <quote>zelda would be steak, while pokemon is just a hamburger.</quote> Zelda is a $5 steak, pokemon is a $5 hamburger. They're not the same thing and snobs want the steak anyway but they're the same value.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BanjoBoomer 11/19/19 5:29:01 AM #196:	Bulbasaur posted... this is a fine analogy, albeit stupid, since you're comparing a hamburger to another hamburger. you're trying to compare pokemon to zelda. they are two entirely different games, in two entirely different genres. zelda would be steak, while pokemon is just a hamburger. If the gourmet steak costs the exact same as a shitty hamburger then I damn well have every reason to compare the two. If I offer you a Mercedes Benz for $60 and a single stick of chewing gum for $60, no one in their right mind would say "I guess I can't compare the cost to value of these two things because they are both completely different ". The fact that you think this isn't the case is just...mind numbing. <cite>BanjoBoomer posted [p:930359970] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>Bulbasaur posted... </cite> <quote>this is a fine analogy, albeit stupid, since you're comparing a hamburger to another hamburger. you're trying to compare pokemon to zelda. they are two entirely different games, in two entirely different genres. zelda would be steak, while pokemon is just a hamburger.</quote> If the gourmet steak costs the exact same as a shitty hamburger then I damn well have every reason to compare the two. If I offer you a Mercedes Benz for $60 and a single stick of chewing gum for $60, no one in their right mind would say "I guess I can't compare the cost to value of these two things because they are both completely different ". The fact that you think this isn't the case is just...mind numbing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PK_Spam 11/19/19 8:00:41 AM #197:	Lol people arguing semantics over whether Pokmon is justified offering nothing for $60 --- https://imgur.com/hCHZS1f <cite>PK_Spam posted [p:930362485] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>Lol people arguing semantics over whether Pokmon is justified offering nothing for $60 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
direshall 11/19/19 8:26:54 AM #198:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Bulbasaur posted... zelda would be steak, while pokemon is just a hamburger. Zelda is a $5 steak, pokemon is a $5 hamburger. They're not the same thing and snobs want the steak anyway but they're the same value. There is much more game design work in any Zelda or any Mario made by Nintendo EAD than in any Pokemon. Gamefreak was never a Nintendo studio and never made Nintendo EAD quality games. <cite>direshall posted [p:930363144] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Bulbasaur posted...</cite> <quote>zelda would be steak, while pokemon is just a hamburger.</quote> Zelda is a $5 steak, pokemon is a $5 hamburger. They're not the same thing and snobs want the steak anyway but they're the same value.</quote> There is much more game design work in any Zelda or any Mario made by Nintendo EAD than in any Pokemon. Gamefreak was never a Nintendo studio and never made Nintendo EAD quality games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pus_N_Pecans 11/19/19 8:55:36 AM #199:	The new pokemon is actually really good. Im sad about the lack of old polemon too, but its the crybabies that are blowing the games flaws out of proportion --- My arts- https://www.deviantart.com/bleakcreep <cite>Pus_N_Pecans posted [p:930363958] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>The new pokemon is actually really good. Im sad about the lack of old polemon too, but its the crybabies that are blowing the games flaws out of proportion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/19/19 9:02:29 AM #200:	Pus_N_Pecans posted... The new pokemon is actually really good. Im sad about the lack of old polemon too, but its the crybabies that are blowing the games flaws out of proportion My brother thinking is similar to yours. He was like, I kind of wish the other Pokmon were in, but whatever... It is what it is... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:930364163] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>Pus_N_Pecans posted...</cite> <quote>The new pokemon is actually really good. Im sad about the lack of old polemon too, but its the crybabies that are blowing the games flaws out of proportion </quote> My brother thinking is similar to yours. He was like, I kind of wish the other Pokmon were in, but whatever... It is what it is...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JebronLames 11/19/19 9:02:40 AM #201:	really? never seen pr that bad for a game before? what about death stranding? --- "Why should I think I was special?" No Lois you don't get it, it's because you are special" <cite>JebronLames posted [p:930364170] in I've g... [t:78156886]...</cite> <quote>really? never seen pr that bad for a game before? what about death stranding?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Poll of the Day > I've genuinely never seen this much bad PR for a game before (Pokemon)