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foolm0r0n
12/01/19 11:31:22 AM
#51:


WazzupGenius00 posted...
You can unlock the first part of chapter 9 with less but about halfway through there is another barrier that requires 15

I just got to here and wtf it's only halfway?? god damn

But yeah 4 hearts for chapter 8 sounds right. And there's nothing extra required for chapter 9 after that. But the B sides do need it.

Yup skipped it... this second half might be too hard
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Shonen_Bat
12/01/19 5:35:05 PM
#52:


Honestly I never beat chapter 9 either, like 2/3 of the way through I just turned on assist mode to see the ending

It sucks because I can tell that the entire level is really well thought out but it's just too hard for me
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Nelson_Mandela
12/01/19 5:37:24 PM
#53:


Without spoiling too much, are the chp 8 and 9 endings part of the plot, or more just like a "wow u r awesome gamer, here's a cute little scene"?
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Xiahou Shake
12/01/19 5:52:33 PM
#54:


Chapter 8 has almost nothing in the way of story. Chapter 9 does have a story but it's entirely extra and not really related to the 1-7 plot.
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skullbone
12/01/19 5:58:23 PM
#55:


Chapter 8 is "woo you did it", Chapter 9 is self contained epilogue
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VintageGin
12/01/19 7:52:12 PM
#56:


Beat the Summit with something like 3784 deaths.

151 strawberries, 5/7 B Sides

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Nelson_Mandela
12/01/19 8:15:32 PM
#57:


Haha I think you and I finished at the same time

Definitely going for chapter 8 and 9 though. I'm pretty hooked.
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VintageGin
12/01/19 11:32:45 PM
#58:


Nice! Seems fitting because I think it was your post that reminded me about the physical edition

Also, regarding chapter 8 and 9-- same. Definitely gonna try to complete what I can.

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Nelson_Mandela
12/01/19 11:37:42 PM
#59:


I honestly didn't find the main game difficult at all. Perhaps recently beating Super Meat Boy through the dark ending has battle hardened me.
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VintageGin
12/01/19 11:40:02 PM
#60:


Haha, weirdly I was thinking that this was finally scratching the Super Meat Boy itch. The B-Sides definitely have the same level of difficulty as some of the dark world levels.

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foolm0r0n
12/02/19 7:54:58 AM
#61:


The main game is definitely not meant to be very difficult. I thought some parts of chapter 7 got pretty hard though. Enough to make it feel like a climax at least. The bonus levels get exponentially harder for sure. Not necessarily in a fun way though.
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Nelson_Mandela
12/02/19 10:49:29 PM
#62:


Holy crap you weren't kidding about the difficulty spike on the b-sides. I'll be using the double dash assist mode for these first few...
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Solfadore
12/03/19 12:13:46 AM
#63:


Yeah, the first few B-sides are rough. I'd say 2B is probably the easiest? I remember 5B being somewhat manageable as well (in addition to having the best theme in the game). The rest are tough as nails.

On Chapter 9 - stopping 2/3 into Chapter 9 is a bit of a shame because the middle part of the Chapter is definitely the hardest section of the level IMO. The difficulty scales down noticeably in the last 25% or so (though the final room can be a pain, admittedly).

Chapter 9 is still consistently harder than anything else in the game, and stays punitively harsh for longer than anything else, though a few individual rooms in some of the other levels can rival it. It's more a test of persistence and grit.
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foolm0r0n
12/03/19 12:47:47 AM
#64:


I think 90% of my deaths in the first half of 9 were in the last 4 levels
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VintageGin
12/03/19 12:31:17 PM
#65:


Chapter 8 was fun.

Just got past the five locks part of chapter 9. Chapter 9 feels a lot more puzzley in terms of figuring out how the mechanics work and can be used to get past certain parts.

Question-- when it stops me for not having 15 hearts, is there a save point there? I assume there is, but wanted to make sure I don't have to repeat stuff needlessly

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Dels
12/03/19 2:33:40 PM
#66:


agreed, one of the first things i thought about chapter 9 was "this feels more like every room is a puzzle"

but i also agree with the last segment scaling the difficulty down, and i actually think this is a brilliant design decision - after working your way through some of the toughest rooms in the game, you are given the reward of one final stretch where you get to fly through everything and feel great doing it. in fact, the final room is sort of designed in the same way - the beginning section is hard, but once you get to the vertical part it eases up, and you likely won't die more than a couple of times in the final segment
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foolm0r0n
12/03/19 11:41:28 PM
#67:


VintageGin posted...
Question-- when it stops me for not having 15 hearts, is there a save point there? I assume there is, but wanted to make sure I don't have to repeat stuff needlessly

You can quit the chapter and come back yeah
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VintageGin
12/04/19 12:40:25 AM
#68:


Got to the 15 heart gate. The last screen before that point definitely took me many tries. Now at 5000+ deaths.

Now to get the remaining 7 hearts.

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Nelson_Mandela
12/04/19 8:46:36 PM
#69:


Man chapter 3 is just the best. Is this what the persona games are like? In terms of atmosphere I mean

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skullbone
12/04/19 9:28:33 PM
#70:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Is this what the persona games are like? In terms of atmosphere I mean


Hmm what makes you think that? I've never seen someone make that connection before

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Nelson_Mandela
12/04/19 9:32:57 PM
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skullbone posted...
Hmm what makes you think that? I've never seen someone make that connection before
I dunno. It just seemed like a mix of creepy and funny in a very Japanese way.

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foolm0r0n
12/05/19 7:38:05 PM
#72:


3 is more like Undertale vibes

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VintageGin
12/08/19 12:13:55 AM
#73:


Finished the B Sides for chapters 1 - 7.

1110 deaths on the Summit B Side. Yeesh.

Just need the blue hearts from chapters 6 and 7 now.

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Shonen_Bat
12/08/19 12:41:29 AM
#74:


Finished up to the sixth C-Side over the last week or so, probably going to try the rest tomorrow

I'd like to beat chapter 9 for real at some point but even if I do finish all the C-Sides I don't have high hopes, it's such a long level

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HaRRicH
12/12/19 12:54:27 AM
#75:


I recently started Celeste and have been definitely into it.

I don't understand the B-side (second one?) where real early on the bird tells you forward-dash. I can get to the bird and stand, but I don't get the angle it takes to go up and out of that room successfully.

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Shonen_Bat
12/12/19 1:00:50 AM
#76:


Bird's telling you that you can jump right when you leave the space block to go further, which lets you reach the second one with your dash

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HaRRicH
12/13/19 7:12:34 AM
#77:


Perfect, thank you -- beat it!

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Nelson_Mandela
12/14/19 10:21:11 PM
#78:


People can legitimately beat these b-sides? I found myself always turning on infinite dashes and it's still ludicrously hard. On chapter 9 now...

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transience
12/14/19 10:41:25 PM
#79:


wait til you see the c sides

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Nelson_Mandela
12/14/19 10:59:56 PM
#80:


I don't want to. The b-sides (played the"real" way) aren't even fun.

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transience
12/14/19 11:09:46 PM
#81:


it'd be fine if you stopped after the main game. celeste gets real hard for the people who want it but you don't need to do it all.

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Xiahou Shake
12/14/19 11:39:27 PM
#82:


Yeah if you're not having fun with the difficulty you'll only get frustrated forcing yourself. You already beat the game, all the rest is just for folks who crave that kind of stuff. (Like me lol)

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foolm0r0n
12/15/19 2:17:37 AM
#83:


B-sides after 3 aren't fun to me. But first half of chap 9 was very fun despite being a lot harder than the B-sides. Totally genius designs there.

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VintageGin
12/15/19 5:06:13 AM
#84:


I thought the B Sides hit a pretty good balance of being challenging without ever feeling overwhelmingly difficult.

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Nelson_Mandela
12/15/19 9:27:54 AM
#85:


foolm0r0n posted...
B-sides after 3 aren't fun to me. But first half of chap 9 was very fun despite being a lot harder than the B-sides. Totally genius designs there.
I agree. Same with chapter 8.

I get that people liked the challenge, but Super Meat Boy was also like this and I beat all of those. Maybe it's because you didn't have to play every single level to progress whereas Celeste b-sides force you down a more linear path.

Anyway, solid 8-ish game. Would recommend.

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Nelson_Mandela
12/16/19 11:14:15 PM
#86:


Chapter 9 beated

Very cool level. Unimaginable how someone could complete it without assist mode.

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foolm0r0n
12/16/19 11:25:38 PM
#87:


I keep forgetting about assist mode. I would probably have used it on some of those levels that took 30+ mins...

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VintageGin
12/17/19 4:27:55 AM
#88:


Finally got around to getting the last two blue hearts I was missing

Chapter 8 B-Side was rough.

Beat the first C-Side in about 279 deaths. Now at 8292 total.

Should I try to beat the Chapter 9 part 2 first or should I try to do all of the C-Sides?

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Nelson_Mandela
12/17/19 2:54:44 PM
#89:


I say end the game with chapter 9

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skullbone
12/17/19 3:11:41 PM
#90:


The Chapter 8 C-side took me about 2 hours, the last screen of Chapter 9 was about the same amount of time I think.

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VintageGin
12/25/19 10:38:51 PM
#91:


Finally got around to continuing. Beat Chapter 2 C-Side, which was surprisingly easy.

Really not a fan of the long sections that are on the last parts of these C-Sides...does Chapter 9 have a lot of those? I'm really tempted to just do the second half of Chapter 9 instead of doing all the C-Sides.

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transience
12/25/19 10:39:52 PM
#92:


the last screen of chapter 9 is on another level when it comes to length. the rest doesn't approach the nastiness of the C sides, though you'll probably get stuck in a couple of parts. it is really hard though overall.

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Nelson_Mandela
12/25/19 10:53:20 PM
#93:


Chapter 9 basically plays like a marathon, especially towards the end. The final screen is maniacal.

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VintageGin
12/25/19 11:05:49 PM
#94:


Yeah, I expected the final screen to be pretty extreme.

Is there any interesting reward for beating all C-Sides?

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transience
12/25/19 11:07:23 PM
#95:


there's some debug modes or whatever, but really it's just for your own satisfaction. chapter 7 and 8 are rough.

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Nelson_Mandela
12/25/19 11:08:46 PM
#96:


Define interesting

All of the extra content was pretty underwhelming from an incentive perspective tbqh. I think it's definitely more about the gratification from knowing you beat it than anything else

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VintageGin
12/25/19 11:24:06 PM
#97:


I cannot figure out the timing on bopping Mr. Oshiro on the head for the C-Side

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VintageGin
12/26/19 5:15:23 AM
#98:


Wow fuck 3C

This is legitimately infuriating

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VintageGin
12/26/19 5:17:25 AM
#99:


Of course I beat it immediately after posting that

347 deaths

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skullbone
12/26/19 5:28:57 AM
#100:


3C, 7C, and 8C are the worst C sides. Level 9 is about on the same level. Here were my deaths and playtimes before level 9 came out

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