Current Events > Is Obama to blame for Trump's presidency?

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EndOfDiscOne
01/16/20 5:06:57 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erE1Nf2hCmk&feature=youtu.be

https://youtu.be/TO9d16c2XRM?t=150

He jinxed it a couple of times. We have to make sure we don't get too cocky this time

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butthole666
01/16/20 5:07:23 PM
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Hes not

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DifferentialEquation
01/16/20 5:08:48 PM
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Trump's presidency is one of the greatest gifts our country has ever received and Obama does not deserve any credit for it.

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TheHoldSteady
01/16/20 5:10:21 PM
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Trump is the DNC's fault for denying us the Bern

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Hinxray
01/16/20 5:13:17 PM
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I rarely listen to Glenn Beck, but he had a show about this a few months back. He said the 2 best presidents of his life time were Reagan and Obama. Obama, because he woke America up to the dangers of the left and brought up Trump.

I voted for Obama twice and looking back over his failure of a presidency I'll never vote dem again. I think many were in my shoes.

I think Trump wins 2020 in another landslide, and the (R) candidate takes 2024 by a slim margin. All thanks to President Obama. By 2028 I think most will have forgetten Obama and open up a chance for another (D) president.

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ScazarMeltex
01/16/20 5:16:05 PM
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Hinxray posted...
I rarely listen to Glenn Beck, but he had a show about this a few months back. He said the 2 best presidents of his life time were Reagan and Obama. Obama, because he woke America up to the dangers of the left and brought up Trump.

I voted for Obama twice and looking back over his failure of a presidency I'll never vote dem again. I think many were in my shoes.

I think Trump wins 2020 in another landslide, and the (R) candidate takes 2024 by a slim margin. All thanks to President Obama. By 2028 I think most will have forgetten Obama and open up a chance for another (D) president.
Imagine being so far to the right that you think Obama or his voters are leftists.

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hockeybub89
01/16/20 5:16:27 PM
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Hinxray posted...
I rarely listen to Glenn Beck, but he had a show about this a few months back. He said the 2 best presidents of his life time were Reagan and Obama. Obama, because he woke America up to the dangers of the left and brought up Trump.

I voted for Obama twice and looking back over his failure of a presidency I'll never vote dem again. I think many were in my shoes.

I think Trump wins 2020 in another landslide, and the (R) candidate takes 2024 by a slim margin. All thanks to President Obama. By 2028 I think most will have forgetten Obama and open up a chance for another (D) president.
I bet you called Obama a socialist. Everyone right of a neo-cons is not the "dangerous left"

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BruceWayneJr
01/16/20 5:16:49 PM
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Trump was already talking birther shit. If you wanna blame Obama for responding to that when fat boy cries every day on Twitter about someone new every week, have fun.

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TheMikh
01/16/20 5:17:46 PM
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where's the curb your enthusiasm music

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ElatedVenusaur
01/16/20 5:18:01 PM
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Partially to blame, yes.
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DifferentialEquation
01/16/20 5:20:44 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Imagine being so far to the right that you think Obama or his voters are leftists.

Obama is responsible for the ACA, which really opened the doors for people like Bernie to walk in and start radicalizing people into thinking they should have free healthcare and college, debt forgiveness, $15 min wage, etc.

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ScazarMeltex
01/16/20 5:21:40 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
Obama is responsible for the ACA, which really opened the doors for people like Bernie to walk in and start radicalizing people into thinking they should have free healthcare and college, debt forgiveness, $15 min wage, etc.
You mean like the rest of western civilization?

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supercrono
01/16/20 5:24:24 PM
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Not at all, it was pretty much all Hillary. And he'll get elected again because dems can't put up a sane rational candidate.

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DeadBankerDream
01/16/20 5:24:59 PM
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Yes, it's Obama's fault for being black.

That caused a lot of white people to vote republican the next time around.
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supercrono
01/16/20 5:26:33 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Yes, it's Obama's fault for being black.

That caused a lot of white people to vote republican the next time around.
If this logic was true he would have lost after his first term

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DeadBankerDream
01/16/20 5:27:04 PM
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Why?
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garan
01/16/20 5:27:13 PM
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TheHoldSteady posted...
Trump is the DNC's fault for denying us the Bern


I think this is more true than Obama.

In 2016, both parties had populist candidates that the establishments did not want to win. The RNC didn't or couldn't get rid of Trump. The DNC did everything in its power to shove Bernie out of Hilary's path.

The problem was that too many of the common people weren't interested in Hilary for a variety of reasons. And while I know that Hilary won the overall popular vote, she got less votes than Obama in 2012 (and almost 4 million less than Obama in 2008) while Trump got 2 million more than Romney.

The Democrats lost some of the appeal to their progressive wing and it cost them.
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Lost_All_Senses
01/16/20 5:29:32 PM
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Just cause Trump is a response to Obama, doesn't mean it's Obama's fault. That's a dumb way to think

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DifferentialEquation
01/16/20 5:37:39 PM
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garan posted...
The Democrats lost some of the appeal to their progressive wing and it cost them.

The Democrats lost appeal because of their growing progressive wing. The Republicans gained appeal with moderate/purple voters who don't want to see the United States embrace socialism.

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Hinxray
01/16/20 6:28:42 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Imagine being so far to the right that you think Obama or his voters are leftists.

Obama was pretty left. You guys are just so far left now that you're hanging off the edge.

DeadBankerDream posted...
Yes, it's Obama's fault for being black.

That caused a lot of white people to vote republican the next time around.

That logic doesn't work because President Obama was elected for 2 terms, and the following election was between 2 white people. If you want to talk about racists how is Cory Booker and Kamala Harris fairing in the democratic nomination? I doubt you're supporting a rich white man, right?


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hockeybub89
01/16/20 6:37:38 PM
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Hinxray posted...
Obama was pretty left. You guys are just so far left now that you're hanging off the edge.
God the American perspective of the political spectrum is so fucking goofy

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EndOfDiscOne
01/16/20 7:00:16 PM
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Have you seen Obama hold a fork?

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MKScorpion
01/16/20 7:21:57 PM
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I would say in a way he is but not because of the way you are probably thinking.

First he was a democrat so obviously conservatives wanted one of their own to win the next election but the biggest thing that probably fired up the other side is he was BLACK and had a name that sounds funny to ignorant people.

So yeah at no fault of his own his blackness and funny " s*** hole country " sounding name probably fired up all of the racists and bigots to really come out and vote....then along comes Trump who obviously appeals to a group of people that no other politicians ever cared about pandering to (or at least no so obviously) and yeah, Trump wins. He said all of the things they wanted to hear.

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Omnislasher
01/16/20 7:33:00 PM
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Yes, of course Obama bears a major responsibility for Trump. Listen here to have this fact explained:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDvCqeXCI-o&t=25m22s

I've linked to the starting time of 25:22 and the end time is 28:00.

For fuller context you can go back more. 20:28 is a good option. Or the beginning of the talk at 5:30.

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TheMikh
01/16/20 9:25:10 PM
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I don't think Obama was to blame, but there was a bit of a cultural ecosystem revolving around his administration that was better geared to urban coastals, which might have alienated conservative America. While I'm hesitant to discount racism towards him, I believe it's slightly overstated, if you'll keep in mind that certain swing states that consolidated his election also went to Trump, and that Cain polled quite well with Republicans before his campaign got tactical nuked by harassment allegations, as did Carson before Trump and Cruz - both conservative rockstars during the Obama era - really picked up steam.

Anyhow, at the end of the day I believe Clinton and the unapologetic corruption of her machine was most to blame for Trump's presidency.

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ScazarMeltex
01/16/20 9:43:51 PM
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Hinxray posted...
Obama was pretty left. You guys are just so far left now that you're hanging off the edge.

That logic doesn't work because President Obama was elected for 2 terms, and the following election was between 2 white people. If you want to talk about racists how is Cory Booker and Kamala Harris fairing in the democratic nomination? I doubt you're supporting a rich white man, right?
No, you are just indoctrinated into the American political system wherein a right leaning centrist party is passed of as "the left". What we really have is a far right party and a center right party. The democrats are a conservative party everywhere else in the western world.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020

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Aki_Sora
01/16/20 9:48:00 PM
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What?

Trump make America great again
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DundiesAward
01/16/20 9:49:30 PM
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Thanks Obama.

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closetjpopfan
01/17/20 10:45:35 PM
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No, it's the fault of the citizens. It's America's fault that Trump is president. Let's not confuse ourselves.
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Antifar
01/17/20 10:54:33 PM
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Obama is largely responsible for the conditions that led to people rejecting a member of his administration and electing instead a racist reality show host who had been accused by several women of sexual assault.
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UnfairRepresent
01/20/20 5:38:46 AM
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Obama would be considered very right wing in Canada, Australia, Western Europe or New Zealand
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