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God_Of_Entirety
02/24/20 8:38:55 PM
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do you shoot?


discuss.

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God_Of_Entirety
02/24/20 9:12:26 PM
#2:


yes leading.

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Umbreon
02/24/20 9:23:55 PM
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I'm no expert, but aren't you supposed to use a baton for that? Or perhaps that's just for unarmed perps.

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Zack_Attackv1
02/24/20 9:25:57 PM
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Never bring a knife to a gunfight.

*Hana Kimura throat slash*
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EricDraven59
02/24/20 9:26:07 PM
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The problem is that most cops shoot to kill in these situations and this get away with murder. All they need to do is shoot the person in the leg or arm to drop the weapon and then arrest them. No reason to fire 100 rounds in fear or aim for the head, heart and such fatality areas. Makes me wonder what kind training police receive
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02/24/20 9:28:18 PM
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Vita_Aeterna
02/24/20 9:28:50 PM
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McgeesAlice808 posted...
So anyway, I started blasting
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Spellz2113
02/24/20 9:31:21 PM
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BobanMarjanovic
02/24/20 9:33:40 PM
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EricDraven59 posted...
The problem is that most cops shoot to kill in these situations and this get away with murder. All they need to do is shoot the person in the leg or arm to drop the weapon and then arrest them. No reason to fire 100 rounds in fear or aim for the head, heart and such fatality areas. Makes me wonder what kind training police receive
lmfao

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Umbreon
02/24/20 9:38:05 PM
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I guess even they recognized "Shoot the weapon out of their hand" would have been too obvious.

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God_Of_Entirety
02/26/20 4:21:27 PM
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yes leading

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EverDownward
02/26/20 4:24:34 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0p94UtBMgs

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The Trent
02/26/20 4:24:55 PM
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what would dirty harry do
i do that

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NeonOctopus
02/26/20 5:02:30 PM
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EricDraven59 posted...
The problem is that most cops shoot to kill in these situations and this get away with murder. All they need to do is shoot the person in the leg or arm to drop the weapon and then arrest them. No reason to fire 100 rounds in fear or aim for the head, heart and such fatality areas. Makes me wonder what kind training police receive
This is why Trump won

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UnfairRepresent
02/26/20 9:42:05 PM
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The scenario is vague

How far away is the knifeman?

Are they conciously responding or do they seem drugged out or unreasonable?

If they are close then absolutely shoot.

If they are far away and angry but clearly coherant, I would try talking the down first then shoot if they ignored me.

There's a lot of factors and situations being ignored here
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Skye Reynolds
02/26/20 9:45:41 PM
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Let him kill me so that people say "one less fascist pig" instead of calling me a murderer.

...except nobody could realistically be expected to do that.

If a person is swinging a knife at you from twenty feet away, or if he has his hands cuffed behind his back, there's no need to shoot. But if they pose a legitimate threat to your life, a cop has as much right to self-defense as anyone else.
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Mark_DeRosa
02/26/20 9:45:53 PM
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Umbreon posted...
I'm no expert, but aren't you supposed to use a baton for that? Or perhaps that's just for unarmed perps.
Wat. You never go a step down from from their weapon. Youll wind up dead. If someone is seriously swinging a knife at you and you bring a baton out, you might as well just drop it and text your family goodbye.

and the whole aiming for body parts is completely unrealistic. Every cop, military. Security are all trained to shooter center mass. Nothing will ever change because it is correct. Anything else is dangerous. You miss a shot youre dead, you miss a shot a hit another person say hi to jail. Not to mention how difficult that is

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Mark_DeRosa
02/26/20 9:46:23 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
The scenario is vague

How far away is the knifeman?

Are they conciously responding or do they seem drugged out or unreasonable?

If they are close then absolutely shoot.

If they are far away and angry but clearly coherant, I would try talking the down first then shoot if they ignored me.

There's a lot of factors and situations being ignored here
A lot of the departments use the 21 foot rule

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1NfamousACE_2
02/26/20 9:53:34 PM
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Have I given verbal commands?

How close are they?

Are they in my reactionary gap?

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crazyman32
02/26/20 9:57:08 PM
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Yes
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God_Of_Entirety
02/26/20 10:03:56 PM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Have I given verbal commands?

How close are they?

Are they in my reactionary gap?

Why?
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XxKrazyChaosxX
02/26/20 10:05:53 PM
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Yeah, but like Indiana Jones style though.

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1NfamousACE_2
02/26/20 11:05:19 PM
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God_Of_Entirety posted...
Why?

Why what?

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God_Of_Entirety
02/26/20 11:05:47 PM
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Why..

Do those questions matter..
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1NfamousACE_2
02/27/20 6:40:54 AM
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God_Of_Entirety posted...
Why..

Do those questions matter..

Those questions matter because that's when deadly force can be justified

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Keith_Valentine
02/27/20 6:46:18 AM
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Mark_DeRosa posted...
Wat. You never go a step down from from their weapon. Youll wind up dead. If someone is seriously swinging a knife at you and you bring a baton out, you might as well just drop it and text your family goodbye.

and the whole aiming for body parts is completely unrealistic. Every cop, military. Security are all trained to shooter center mass. Nothing will ever change because it is correct. Anything else is dangerous. You miss a shot youre dead, you miss a shot a hit another person say hi to jail. Not to mention how difficult that is

Nah dude, hitting body parts is easy, used to do it in re4 all the time. *eye roll*

I will say theres no need to empty the clip like cops sometimes do in these situations. I think one good center mass shot should work.

Anyways, obviously id shoot the person once.
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FakeHoax
02/27/20 6:51:14 AM
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Umbreon posted...
I'm no expert, but aren't you supposed to use a baton for that? Or perhaps that's just for unarmed perps.

I thought the did away with the whoop ass stick
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FursonaNonGrata
02/27/20 6:51:48 AM
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Mark_DeRosa posted...
you miss a shot a hit another person say hi to jail.

That will never happen in America and you know it

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bknight
02/27/20 6:53:01 AM
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I shoot the gun out of his hand, simple.
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gguirao
02/27/20 1:20:43 PM
#36:


Why not?

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God_Of_Entirety
02/27/20 1:44:05 PM
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gguirao posted...
Why not?
you tell me.

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mooreandrew58
02/28/20 8:23:44 AM
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FakeHoax posted...
I thought the did away with the whoop ass stick

Yeah I dont see cops carry batons. Not that I pay attention. Us COs carry them but thats because we gotra have something in a place it would be dumb as fuck to carry a gun.

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DarthWendy
02/28/20 8:30:05 AM
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Do I shoot ? I literally Charles Bronson his arse.

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God_Of_Entirety
02/28/20 8:38:27 AM
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yes leading somewhat

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