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BenRoethlisberg
02/27/20 11:37:53 AM
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ThyCorndog
02/27/20 11:40:20 AM
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Cheater87
02/27/20 11:41:30 AM
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Will the DNC steal the nomination from Bernie and give it to say Biden or Pete?

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Kazi1212
02/27/20 11:41:35 AM
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Bernie about to lose the next 47 states incoming

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wackyteen
02/27/20 11:44:20 AM
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Prayers up for Bernie, I guess.

Also 538/Ipsos did a pre and post debate poll and Bernie had the highest favorability after the debate, based on performance.

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wackyteen
02/27/20 11:45:58 AM
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Cheater87 posted...
Will the DNC steal the nomination from Bernie and give it to say Biden or Pete?
Biden, yes. Pete, no.

Still wouldn't say either stand a chance against Trump.

After months of attack ads not sure how well even Bernie would stand, but this is a battle of left vs right ideology and I'd want Bernie championing the left

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ElatedVenusaur
02/27/20 11:49:59 AM
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Cheater87 posted...
Will the DNC steal the nomination from Bernie and give it to say Biden or Pete?
Funny you should bring this up!
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/us/politics/democratic-superdelegates.html
People who were willing to give names:
Rep. Josh Gottenheimer (NJ)
Rep. Veronica Escobar (TX)
Rep. Don Beyer (VA)
Rep. Jim Himes (CT)
Rep. Steve Cohen (TN)
Fmr. Sen. Chris Dodd
Jay Jacobs (NY State Dem Chair)
William Owen (TN Dem Official)
There were 93 in total, though most were too cowardly to out themselves. They're showing us their true faces here: they would rather lose to Trump than win with Bernie.

Edit: Also, their proposed compromise nominees include the following-
Sen. Sherrod Brown
Sen. Chris Coons
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
Former First Lady Michelle Obama
Sen. Mark Warner
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Notti
02/27/20 11:51:46 AM
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Cheater87 posted...
Will the DNC steal the nomination from Bernie and give it to say Biden or Pete?


There will be internal war if so. And Pete/Biden/Bloom will just lose anyway if Bernie is very close to 50, but doesn't get there.

We need ranked voting everywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE

Because it is my honest opinion that people do (or will) feel the Bern, but want to back the one who will win the primaries because of fearing of wasting their vote on a spoiler candidate in this split field.

Anyway. It's dangerous to go alone, take these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZhkKATtqtU
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s0nicfan
02/27/20 11:52:39 AM
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He hasn't even lost SC yet and people are already out with the "DNC is stealing the election" nonsense.

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Antifar
02/27/20 11:54:30 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
people are already out with the "DNC is stealing the election" nonsense.

To be clear, it is superdelegates themselves openly speculating about this in the New York Times.
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Arrow2theknees
02/27/20 11:54:35 AM
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Bernie going to win, get us universal healthcare but it's not going to matter because we're all going to die to coronavirus.
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s0nicfan
02/27/20 11:55:44 AM
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Antifar posted...
To be clear, it is superdelegates themselves openly speculating about this in the New York Times.

In 2016 Bernie had delegates that were openly saying they were going to vote for him regardless of primary results in their state and that never happened.

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ElatedVenusaur
02/27/20 11:55:52 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
He hasn't even lost SC yet and people are already out with the "DNC is stealing the election" nonsense.
There are literally Democratic superdelegates conspiring to steal the nomination from Bernie right now, so, yeah.
Bernie's not going to win SC: usually polls of SC underestimate turnout among old black people, and Bernie does only slightly better with them than he does with old white people.
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TheHoldSteady
02/27/20 12:11:29 PM
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/27/poll-joe-biden-big-lead-south-carolina-117839

Looks like Joe Biden might be making a comeback

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MaxEffingBemis
02/27/20 12:17:32 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
Funny you should bring this up!
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/us/politics/democratic-superdelegates.html
People who were willing to give names:
Rep. Josh Gottenheimer (NJ)
Rep. Veronica Escobar (TX)
Rep. Don Beyer (VA)
Rep. Jim Himes (CT)
Rep. Steve Cohen (TN)
Fmr. Sen. Chris Dodd
Jay Jacobs (NY State Dem Chair)
William Owen (TN Dem Official)
There were 93 in total, though most were too cowardly to out themselves. They're showing us their true faces here: they would rather lose to Trump than win with Bernie.

Edit: Also, their proposed compromise nominees include the following-
Sen. Sherrod Brown
Sen. Chris Coons
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
Former First Lady Michelle Obama
Sen. Mark Warner
I dont understand what this proposed compromised nominee thing is. Are they proposing running someone out there that isnt even running for the presidency?

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Mecha Sonic
02/27/20 12:51:14 PM
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Smashingpmkns
02/27/20 12:55:36 PM
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If the super delegates determine the nominee this party is fucked.
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wackyteen
02/27/20 1:17:24 PM
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I wish anyone but Trump/Pence was on the republican ticket so I could say they deserve to lose if they pick the candidate

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Mecha Sonic
02/27/20 1:34:37 PM
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bernie sanders crashing in the 538 forecast

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wackyteen
02/27/20 1:37:47 PM
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Mecha Sonic posted...
bernie sanders crashing in the 538 forecast
Probably more of a course correction than a crash.

Though on the graph it does look like a crash

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RchHomieQuanChi
02/27/20 1:44:02 PM
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Casted my vote for Bernie in Texas

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ThyCorndog
02/27/20 1:46:14 PM
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wackyteen
02/27/20 1:48:34 PM
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Both are LV polls, so I'll take them with a bigger than normal grain of salt til I look into the demographics.

40% for Biden is insane and really sounds unbelievable, considering how bad he did in other states.

Will be interesting to see if SC is his only good performance though

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wackyteen
02/27/20 1:51:51 PM
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The Starboard Communications poll is based off a tweet and offered no methodology or demographics.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AndyShain/status/1233074240070574081

This is what the 538 polls linked.

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wackyteen
02/27/20 1:58:35 PM
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57% of the SC Monmouth poll was ages 50+.

62% of the new St Pete's Poll in Florida was 50+.

Whats with these old people polls lmfao.

Almost wanna say they're intentionally kinda fucked

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s0nicfan
02/27/20 1:59:54 PM
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wackyteen posted...
57% of the SC Monmouth poll was ages 50+.

62% of the new St Pete's Poll in Florida was 50+.

Whats with these old people polls lmfao.

Almost wanna say they're intentionally kinda fucked

Old people vote.


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Alpha218
02/27/20 2:12:55 PM
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I mean, theres also the fact that landline polling disproportionately connects to older people as well.

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Smashingpmkns
02/27/20 2:25:39 PM
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SC is probably going to Biden but i think it will be a close race. Not a blow out like NV.
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MrToothHasYou
02/27/20 2:33:45 PM
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wackyteen posted...
57% of the SC Monmouth poll was ages 50+.

62% of the new St Pete's Poll in Florida was 50+.

Whats with these old people polls lmfao.

Almost wanna say they're intentionally kinda fucked
To be fair, 57% of the voter turnout in South Carolina's primary in 2016 was 50+, so it's not that outlandish for them to weight the poll demos that way. Bernie's going to have to hope that the youth vote turns out in numbers well above expectations if he wants to be in the mix.

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Broseph_Stalin
02/27/20 2:35:59 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
Will the DNC steal the nomination from Bernie and give it to say Biden or Pete?

wackyteen posted...
Almost wanna say they're intentionally kinda fucked

can we go one day without a bernie bro conspiracy theory

just to see what it feels like
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MaxEffingBemis
02/27/20 2:41:34 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
can we go one day without a bernie bro conspiracy theory

just to see what it feels like
Can you go a day without self-immolating in one of these topics?

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Doom_Art
02/27/20 2:48:41 PM
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To be fair

The basis of these conspiracies

Is literally every other candidate refusing to say "the candidate with the most delegates wins"

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Smashingpmkns
02/27/20 2:50:43 PM
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https://youtu.be/epwzcl20fyM

Rising did a video on this super delegate shit. Good watch.
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Alpha218
02/27/20 2:51:21 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
To be fair

The basis of these conspiracies

Is literally every other candidate refusing to say "the candidate with the most delegates wins"
Woah there

Lets not allow facts to get in the way of Brosephs hatred of Bernie Sanders and his supporters

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s0nicfan
02/27/20 2:52:58 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
To be fair

The basis of these conspiracies

Is literally every other candidate refusing to say "the candidate with the most delegates wins"

In 2016 Bernie himself pushed for a contested convention.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/20/bernie-sanders-pushed-contested-convention-2016-now-he-wants-avoid-one/

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ThyCorndog
02/27/20 2:56:52 PM
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social democracy > neoliberal centrism by every metric

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ElatedVenusaur
02/27/20 3:00:14 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
In 2016 Bernie himself pushed for a contested convention.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/20/bernie-sanders-pushed-contested-convention-2016-now-he-wants-avoid-one/
Yes, and he was wrong to do it then and his opponents are wrong to do it now.
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Smashingpmkns
02/27/20 3:06:31 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Doom_Art posted...
To be fair

The basis of these conspiracies

Is literally every other candidate refusing to say "the candidate with the most delegates wins"

In 2016 Bernie himself pushed for a contested convention.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/20/bernie-sanders-pushed-contested-convention-2016-now-he-wants-avoid-one/


Any rational person, including Bernie, knows that super delegates are not his friend. 400+ super delegates had already aligned with Hillary before the race even started lol

This is disingenuous at best. In 2016 Bernie stayed in to move the party platform, which he did. In 2020, these losers are staying in just to prevent Bernie from winning.
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s0nicfan
02/27/20 3:15:58 PM
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Bernie stayed because he wanted to win. The same reason everyone else with a shot in a contested convention is sticking around.

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Alpha218
02/27/20 3:16:56 PM
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Do you think Amy Klobuchar, Tom Steyer or Tulsi Gabbard would win a contested convention? No

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wackyteen
02/27/20 3:22:22 PM
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Will Tulsi drop after SC or do you think she'll wait til post-Tuesday

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Alpha218
02/27/20 3:25:13 PM
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wackyteen posted...
Will Tulsi drop after SC or do you think she'll wait til post-Tuesday
I honestly have no idea what her true aims are, besides getting a cushy Fox News consultant gig

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Antifar
02/27/20 3:28:17 PM
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This would've been a campaign derailer like, 10 years ago

https://twitter.com/briticoyemo/status/1232758194084237312
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Kazi1212
02/27/20 4:30:42 PM
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Antifar posted...
This would've been a campaign derailer like, 10 years ago

https://twitter.com/briticoyemo/status/1232758194084237312

Why even lie about it in the first place? So weird

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Smashingpmkns
02/27/20 4:35:23 PM
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https://twitter.com/CANCEL_SAM/status/1233141709938348034

Warren gonna win by losing
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