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ninkendo 04/06/20 4:55:33 AM #1: |
Is one hour from now.
In light of various information presented in topics on this board yesterday it'll be interesting to see how reviewers came at it. but I will be asleep. I look forward to seeing what it is in the morning. https://opencritic.com/game/8586/final-fantasy-vii-remake --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 04/06/20 5:02:04 AM #2: |
My Amazon shipped Deluxe Edition ETA is the 14th.
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RaidenGarai 04/06/20 6:01:49 AM #3: |
Mines also saying April 14th, but it hasnt shipped yet.
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Gradieus 04/06/20 6:31:23 AM #4: |
Gamespot gave it 10/10, metacritic has it at 88. A few reviews gave it low grades due to episodic (expected), so probably 90 if they weren't biased.
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voltch 04/06/20 6:50:08 AM #5: |
Easy Allies gave it a 9.
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ChaosTonyV4 04/06/20 7:13:35 AM #6: |
Gradieus posted...
Gamespot gave it 10/10, metacritic has it at 88. A few reviews gave it low grades due to episodic (expected), so probably 90 if they weren't biased. Which one is biased here iyo, the 10/10 or the people who think episodic is a knock? --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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davidponte 04/06/20 7:18:08 AM #7: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Which one is biased here iyo, the 10/10 or the people who think episodic is a knock? As a biased person myself it's clear that the bad review scores are the biased ones. --- I was the final Undisputed Champion in UCA history, however Advokaiser was the Guru Champion! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 04/06/20 7:56:38 AM #8: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Which one is biased here iyo, the 10/10 or the people who think episodic is a knock?Yeah don't listen to that dude, he was exposed as a pedophile on the Politics board a while back. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Surskit 04/06/20 8:08:07 AM #9: |
Final Fantasy getting a 10 in the year 2020, who knew?
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iiicon 04/06/20 9:23:20 AM #10: |
TheRock1525 posted...
Yeah don't listen to that dude, he was exposed as a pedophile on the Politics board a while back.quickest 'time to pedophile' in a reviews topic yet --- ICON: Kiwami means extreme. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlAcK TuRtLe 04/06/20 9:25:44 AM #11: |
Tamoor Hussain is a pedophile?
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Punnyz 04/06/20 9:33:00 AM #12: |
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MechanicalWall 04/06/20 10:47:14 AM #13: |
87 as of right now
I don't put too much stock in numbers, but it does seem like this isn't a bust. I think the episodic format was inevitably gonna hurt this game, and JRPGs in general are going to be slightly divisive; you have to be a worldbeater to get yourself across that 90 line (P5 is the only JRPG to get >90 in how long?) --- If you're only on this board to whine about "SJWs", please redirect whatever you type on to the nearest trash can. And hop in after it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 04/06/20 11:02:54 AM #14: |
Completely irregardless of recent revelations, I don't know how anybody that SE, especially Nomura himself, was gonna out a game that didn't have a bunch of problems, regardless of the source material. The company has not been firing on all cylinders for a while, and their by far best game of the last 5 years was just through publishing.
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pjbasis 04/06/20 12:17:44 PM #15: |
I doubt most of the story bs is going to affect critical reviews too much.
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ninkendo 04/06/20 12:54:22 PM #16: |
ah 8.8 the twilight princess of the series
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iiicon 04/06/20 1:31:59 PM #17: |
UshiromiyaEva posted...
The company has not been firing on all cylinders for a while, and their by far best game of the last 5 years was just through publishing.In the last 5 years, internally they've released HITMAN, SaGa: Scarlet Grace, Dragon Quest XI, Nier: Automata, and two Final Fantasy expansions (one of which might be the best FF game ever). It's not wise to blindly trust Square I agree, but not many developers have released nearly as many game of the generation calibre games in that time frame. --- ICON: Kiwami means extreme. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 04/06/20 1:50:16 PM #18: |
I think we have a different definition of internal here. Nier is internal? That's a Platinum game. Hitman is not them either. Those are publishing.
Saga I don't know about never liked those things since the beginning. FFXIV I will give you, even if it's not my thing. I admit, I did forget DQXI, though I'm still salty about that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iiicon 04/06/20 2:02:22 PM #19: |
UshiromiyaEva posted...
I think we have a different definition of internal here. Nier is internal? That's a Platinum game. Hitman is not them either. Those are publishing.Nier is a Square and Platinum co-production as it used staff from both companies. IO were an Eidos subsidiary and Eidos has been owned by Square since 2009. If you're looking for Square published games, that would be something like the Life is Strange or Just Cause franchises. --- ICON: Kiwami means extreme. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjbasis 04/06/20 2:07:09 PM #20: |
I think when we say square in this case it's really the old guard dev team that comes up with final fantasy and kingdom hearts
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UshiromiyaEva 04/06/20 2:10:18 PM #21: |
Yes, I'm talking strictly mainline internal, not some staff bleed over.
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skullbone 04/06/20 2:13:00 PM #22: |
I feel like FFXV and KH3 are only bad for plot reasons which is a little more excusable in my opinion. Square has had some rough years but they earned enough good will that I can still give them the benefit of the doubt to make a good experience.
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pjbasis 04/06/20 2:13:18 PM #23: |
TBF I don't really know anything about square's structure as a company. All I know is I don't hear the names Nomura and Tabata when talking about Nier and DQ, etc.
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UshiromiyaEva 04/06/20 2:14:17 PM #24: |
I think KH3 is just a button mashing skilless nightmare and FFXV has the most aggravating clunky combat to ever grace an action RPG, but that's just me.
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squexa 04/06/20 2:23:30 PM #25: |
Yeah, even if Squenix is one big company, most of the subunits operate relatively independently from each other iirc.
Dragon Quest is literally just Squenix handing a blank cheque to Yuji Horii to make whatever he wants. I know for the first 8 Dragon Quests, Squenix didn't even develop it internally and instead outsource it to some other studio like Chunsoft or Level 5. Final Fantasy's biggest issue for why all the recent games have been lackluster is that it's a RPG series with high sales expectations that's supposed to target both Japanese and Western mainstreams and for the most part, what the Japanese mainstream and what the Western mainstream want have diverged significantly since the early 2000s. What we end up is some soul-less chimera product like FFXV that somehow disappoints both. It's much easier to develop a game like Persona 5 or Dragon Quest XI that's built towards a smaller group rather than an FF game that has to satisfy a huge variety of tastes. --- congrats to BKSheikah the BYIG guru ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Haunter12O 04/06/20 2:32:00 PM #26: |
People complaining about there being mindless fetch quests are forgetting that Nier Automata did the same exact thing.
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voltch 04/06/20 2:37:05 PM #27: |
Nier Automara brought great flavour text to those fetch quests though.
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UshiromiyaEva 04/06/20 2:39:58 PM #28: |
Yeah, NieR Automata had tons of fetchquests, but "mindless" is the last thing I would call them.
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HeroDelTiempo17 04/06/20 2:40:56 PM #29: |
Man there's a lot of valid criticisms of FFXV to make but "soulless" is certainly not one of them.
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UshiromiyaEva 04/06/20 2:42:51 PM #30: |
How about just terrible?
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Sharinnegan 04/06/20 2:44:47 PM #31: |
FFXV ironically needed more time to develop (even after the 10 year development hell)
the concept of the battle system was good, but it wasn't executed properly (it has been now in VII remake). the story was good, but wasn't told properly (i didnt even understand most of it until looking up videos explaining on youtube). the world looked great but there wasn't enough to do on it. XV was the basis of a great game released before being molded into its final state. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ninkendo 04/06/20 2:45:03 PM #32: |
I liked the end of polygons review. Seemed to sum up what I've been seeing on this board
Remake is wildly uneven, poorly paced, and not entirely successful as a game in its own right. It takes a game that still feels staggeringly ambitious and often turns it into something more traditional, even if every aspect of the experience is so much more technically advanced. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voltch 04/06/20 2:45:21 PM #33: |
XV and KHIII p good yeah.
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UshiromiyaEva 04/06/20 2:45:34 PM #34: |
I actually liked the combat in the first FFXV demo more than the final product.
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iiicon 04/06/20 2:47:07 PM #35: |
UshiromiyaEva posted...
Yes, I'm talking strictly mainline internal, not some staff bleed over.So are Dragon Quest 8 and 9 not Square games? Because there was less time between the purchase of Enix and the release of those games than the purchase of Eidos and the release of HITMAN. HeroDelTiempo17 posted... Man there's a lot of valid criticisms of FFXV to make but "soulless" is certainly not one of them.no that one sounds apt! It's a game about relationships without firmly established or believable relationships, set in a world with bog standard sidequests like "find these frogs" and "find these dog tags." --- ICON: Kiwami means extreme. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Surskit 04/06/20 3:56:53 PM #36: |
ninkendo posted...
I liked the end of polygons review. Seemed to sum up what I've been seeing on this boardIn less wordy terms, "It's a flawed game but people might still like it depending on their expectations". --- .-#Elements of Water#-. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 04/06/20 3:59:24 PM #37: |
iiicon posted...
So are Dragon Quest 8 and 9 not Square games? Because there was less time between the purchase of Enix and the release of those games than the purchase of Eidos and the release of HITMAN.But do you ever find frog tags? --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lucavi000 04/06/20 4:01:04 PM #38: |
If you go into remake thinking it'll be mostly 1:1... you're gonna have a bad time.
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iiicon 04/06/20 4:31:31 PM #39: |
TheRock1525 posted...
But do you ever find frog tags?...I think those two quest givers do cross over eventually actually --- ICON: Kiwami means extreme. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Mana Sword 04/06/20 4:31:59 PM #40: |
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Metal_DK 04/06/20 4:41:02 PM #41: |
eh im kinda hoping its not a direct remake. However from what Ive read I'm not sure if this is the best way to do what i think they are doing
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KamikazePotato 04/06/20 4:45:20 PM #42: |
How to tell if a Square release will have issues:
1. Nomura is attached to it --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BK_Sheikah00 04/06/20 5:48:26 PM #43: |
Talking gameplay, KH3 Remind is anything but mindless button mashing.
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Nanis23 04/06/20 5:58:28 PM #44: |
Reviews are a little disappointing but it's because of the high expectations so it's kinda like "Twilight Princess 8.8" all over again
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ninkendo 04/06/20 5:58:40 PM #45: |
Trying to get the pro codes trophy in Kingdom Hearts 3 remind is the most I've ever had to git gud at Kingdom Hearts
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Yuri_LowelI 04/06/20 6:36:01 PM #46: |
ninkendo posted...
ah 8.8 the twilight princess of the series TP was overrated and deserved less --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CassandraCain 04/06/20 6:36:02 PM #47: |
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pjbasis 04/06/20 6:38:58 PM #48: |
Yuri_LowelI posted...
TP was overrated and deserved less Yeah people should have been flipping out that it wasn't lower. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjbasis 04/06/20 6:39:23 PM #49: |
Lucavi000 posted...
If you go into remake thinking... you're gonna have a bad time. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GANON1025 04/06/20 6:45:22 PM #50: |
Do you think Cloud will get an upkeep boost in Mercs 6 because of what he does in the remake, or not
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