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StealThisSheen
05/29/20 2:14:05 AM
#402:


Corrik7 posted...
I don't agree with your proposed penalty for that.

Well I'm not surprised, given your stance on other traffic laws.

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Corrik7
05/29/20 2:16:26 AM
#403:


Jakyl25 posted...
I dont really know how he could have made it any clearer as to what he meant, to be honest
Well, I can take it one of three ways I think.

  1. When the looting starts, the shooting starts. Does he mean the looters are the shooters so that's why the national guard has to come in?
  2. The looting starts, the shooting starts. Does he mean shooting tear gas? Then that's obvious.
  3. The looting starts, the shooting starts. Does he mean gunning down looters ala the what Army campus protest shooting? (Campus might be wrong?).
I mean, I am concerned. It is a scenario where our commander in chief with his terrible dialect and speech confuses the situation. I wish every day we had a person in office with the policies that was able to talk coherently and without "gaslighting" situations. Hopefully Biden will do a better job at it. (Or at least his cabinet).

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Corrik7
05/29/20 2:16:57 AM
#404:


StealThisSheen posted...
Well I'm not surprised, given your stance on other traffic laws.
Taking away licenses is the number one way to cause people to drive on suspended licenses. There simply is just better means available.

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Jakyl25
05/29/20 2:17:16 AM
#405:


Corrik7 posted...

I don't think evidence supports this. Not complying with cops and being in a fatal situation almost always comes down to the surrounding context and not skin tone. We have ample examples of white people being shot in situations of this sort already.

The fake Swatting, Vegas, etc.

The difference is the media sensationalizes these ones because they get the most clicks.



God Im still mad that the cop didnt get held partially accountable for that swatting death
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Dark Young Link
05/29/20 2:18:00 AM
#406:


Well the thing is that not complying with cops shouldn't' warrant an automatic death sentence.

I mean if you're a threat then obviously, I feel no sympathy for someone holding up a store and not surrendering. But there is such a thing as civil disobedience.

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Jakyl25
05/29/20 2:18:28 AM
#407:


Corrik7 posted...
gaslighting


Im not sure this is an accurate use of the term
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Corrik7
05/29/20 2:19:07 AM
#408:


Jakyl25 posted...
God Im still mad that the cop didnt get held partially accountable for that swatting death
I think it was a clear cut situation where the context caused the action to happen within reason. What if he doesn't shoot and he was pulling a gun and a cop or innocent bystander dies because of that?

Didn't we have that happen in Georgia? Where an innocent died because a cop didn't shoot to kill?

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Corrik7
05/29/20 2:19:36 AM
#409:


Jakyl25 posted...
Im not sure this is an accurate use of the term
I dunno either. I think sometimes he says things to blow it up for dramatic effect and controversy on purpose. Maybe the wrong usage though.

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Dark Young Link
05/29/20 2:20:51 AM
#410:


Corrik7 posted...
It is a scenario where our commander in chief with his terrible dialect and speech confuses the situation. I wish every day we had a person in office with the policies that was able to talk coherently and without "gaslighting" situations.


You speak as if Trump merely is a bumbling fool. He is deliberately evil, he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt for "accidentally" doing anything.

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Corrik7
05/29/20 2:21:39 AM
#411:


Dark Young Link posted...
Well the thing is that not complying with cops shouldn't' warrant an automatic death sentence.

I mean if you're a threat then obviously, I feel no sympathy for someone holding up a store and not surrendering. But there is such a thing as civil disobedience.
Absolutely it shouldn't. You are correct. I usually am on the cops side, but from what I have seen, I have said this cop is wrong and is going to jail.

The fact I am saying that should be testament to the fact that I am agreeing with your broader point yes? I think we just disagree on context and within reason somewhat. There wasn't within reason for this person to die here. He had submitted regardless of resistance or not. There was zero reason for prolonged neck pressure applied to him (and it's not within their guidelines anyways).

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Jakyl25
05/29/20 2:22:05 AM
#412:


Corrik7 posted...

I dunno either. I think sometimes he says things to blow it up for dramatic effect and controversy on purpose. Maybe the wrong usage though.


Yeah thats not what gaslighting is

Gaslighting is convincing someone that theyre wrong about something theyre right about, like, say, winning a Michigan Man of the Year Award
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Corrik7
05/29/20 2:24:07 AM
#413:


Dark Young Link posted...
You speak as if Trump merely is a bumbling fool. He is deliberately evil, he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt for "accidentally" doing anything.
I think it's a tad hypocritical to consider him a measured evil person and incompetent at the same time. He is one of the other. He is deliberately evil or he is incompetent. Choose the one you prefer. As I believe Trump does love America and does do what he feels is best for America, I think regardless of whether he does the right or wrong thing that he does try his best. I would never say Clinton or Obama was evil if I didn't agree with them. I criticized Obama countless times on his handling of Ukraine and Syria. I wouldn't say he is evil and undermining America abroad. I would say he sucks on foreign policy!

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Corrik7
05/29/20 2:25:07 AM
#414:


Jakyl25 posted...
Yeah thats not what gaslighting is

Gaslighting is convincing someone that theyre wrong about something theyre right about, like, say, winning a Michigan Man of the Year Award
I always wondered what the fuck you people were talking about when you said it. I assumed it made sense contextually.

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Jakyl25
05/29/20 2:27:34 AM
#415:


Corrik7 posted...
When the looting starts, the shooting starts. Does he mean the looters are the shooters so that's why the national guard has to come in?


Well, if he meant that, hes been proven wrong

Theyve been looting all day and theres been no shooting
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Jakyl25
05/29/20 2:28:17 AM
#416:


Evil doesnt exist BTW
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HeroDelTiempo17
05/29/20 2:28:52 AM
#417:


Corrik7 posted...
I think it's a tad hypocritical to consider him a measured evil person and incompetent at the same time. He is one of the other. He is deliberately evil or he is incompetent.

why are these mutually exclusive

Evil can be stupid!

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MoogleKupo141
05/29/20 2:30:42 AM
#418:


you can be bad at being evil, like that guy who was going to shoot a place up but like fumbled his gun and just got shot
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Jakyl25
05/29/20 2:31:14 AM
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red sox 777
05/29/20 2:34:48 AM
#420:


Urban insurrection preceded the Reign of Terror in Revolutionary France by just a couple years. Insurrection is one step short of armed rebellion.

Incidentally, the colonial government of North Carolina passed an rather incredible law against insurrection. Participating in even a peaceful protest and refusing to leave within one hour when instructed to leave by police was made punishable by death. The law applied retroactively to before it was passed, anyone could be charged by having their name posted publicly, and failure to show up for court was deemed a guilty plea.

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Corrik7
05/29/20 2:41:38 AM
#421:


The two main riots that happened over a "racism" of police shootings which actually involved a black cop that was the shooter were in North Carolina and Wisconsin. Both voted Red in 2016. I think that it pushes voters to the right is arguably already proven.

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Jakyl25
05/29/20 2:46:16 AM
#422:


North Carolina voted red in 2012 and has since elected a Democratic Governor in 2016
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StealThisSheen
05/29/20 2:46:34 AM
#423:


North Carolina has only voted Blue in presidential elections twice in the last 50 years.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/29/20 2:47:00 AM
#424:


It's almost like Corrik has no fucking idea what he's talking about as always.
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Jakyl25
05/29/20 2:48:09 AM
#425:


Trump also got a smaller percentage of the NC votes than Romney did
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Jakyl25
05/29/20 2:52:12 AM
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StealThisSheen
05/29/20 2:53:40 AM
#427:


As for Wisconsin, despite blue dropping six points from 2012-2016, red gained only 1.3%, so that looks more like a blatant case of just not liking the candidate for the blue side.

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Corrik7
05/29/20 2:58:24 AM
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Jakyl25
05/29/20 3:01:35 AM
#429:


Corrik7 posted...
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nc/north_carolina_trump_vs_clinton-5538.html

September 20th... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Keith_Lamont_Scott


Wow you really went out of your way to disprove your own hypothesis. Good scientific method at least.
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StealThisSheen
05/29/20 3:03:51 AM
#430:


Corrik7 posted...
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nc/north_carolina_trump_vs_clinton-5538.html

September 20th... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Keith_Lamont_Scott

You... You do realize Hillary was at that low point BEFORE September 20th (the 18th and 19th as well), and then promptly went up a few days after the 20th and kept going up, right? Like, she had a huge uptick right around the time polls from after that shooting would've started having results come in.

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Dark Young Link
05/29/20 3:08:06 AM
#431:


Corrik7 posted...
I think it's a tad hypocritical to consider him a measured evil person and incompetent at the same time. He is one of the other.


Malice and stupidity are not mutually exclusive. They often come hand and hand in fact.

Corrik7 posted...
As I believe Trump does love America and does do what he feels is best for America,

I'm curious what makes you feel that way. All I see is a man who will sell us out the moment it becomes convenient. Trump only cares about #1, people like him don't feel empathy.

I do not call him evil merely for disagreeing with him. I disagree with people all the time and have no problem with them. I call him evil based on his actions, his words, his intentions. Good and evil are of course subjective terms, but that's how I view him.

The moment he sided with the self proclaimed neo nazis in Charlottesville was the moment I stopped giving him a chance.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/29/20 3:09:44 AM
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Jakyl25
05/29/20 3:38:13 AM
#433:


Uh oh, Twitter has censored Trump again

This time they again left his tweet up but added a note that it glorified violence and is against Twitter policy

The when the looting starts, the shooting starts one
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Wanglicious
05/29/20 3:39:18 AM
#434:


there's a lot of weird shit happening to that tweet. for a while replies looked locked but it's technically not and it's missing stats? they're doing something to it alright.

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Jakyl25
05/29/20 3:49:05 AM
#435:


Wanglicious posted...
there's a lot of weird shit happening to that tweet. for a while replies looked locked but it's technically not and it's missing stats? they're doing something to it alright.


https://twitter.com/TwitterComms/status/1266267449650864128?s=20
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Jakyl25
05/29/20 3:57:22 AM
#436:


Now the question is who has to be the one to tell Trump in the morning
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Wanglicious
05/29/20 4:02:53 AM
#437:


i'm waiting for that 4 AM shitpost.


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Suprak the Stud
05/29/20 4:03:45 AM
#438:


I keep checking Twitter to see if someone woke him up to tell him.

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Corrik7
05/29/20 4:27:13 AM
#439:


StealThisSheen posted...
You... You do realize Hillary was at that low point BEFORE September 20th (the 18th and 19th as well), and then promptly went up a few days after the 20th and kept going up, right? Like, she had a huge uptick right around the time polls from after that shooting would've started having results come in.
Yeah, Trump surged into the lead in the immediate aftermath. After the 2 weeks happened, Ala Nelson, it went back. Before the eventual last surges.

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Corrik7
05/29/20 4:32:02 AM
#440:


Marquette8/25 - 8/28650 LV5.04542Clinton +3
Monmouth*8/27 - 8/30404 LV4.94338Clinton +5
Marquette8/4 - 8/7683 LV5.05237Clinton +15

On August 13, 2016, a riot began in the Sherman Park neighborhood in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, sparked by the fatal police shooting of 23-year-old Sylville Smith. During the three-day turmoil, several people, including police officers, were injured and dozens of protesters arrested. A nightly curfew was set up for teenagers in the area.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_trump_vs_clinton-5659.html#polls

You can say what you want to, but I think you are definitely only trying to see what you want to see regarding the situation. The general public isn't the ones rioting. The general public is the ones dealing with the riot carnage.

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red13n
05/29/20 4:35:13 AM
#441:


No, the general public is also the ones rioting.

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Jakyl25
05/29/20 4:37:01 AM
#442:


So your argument is that it makes people more conservative for 2 weeks?
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Corrik7
05/29/20 4:38:44 AM
#443:


It's a working hypothesis.

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KamikazePotato
05/29/20 4:41:35 AM
#444:


My take on the situation:

Burning down the police department - fair, next

Trashing local non-chain businesses - not so cool

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RPGlord95
05/29/20 6:21:18 AM
#445:


CNN crew was just arrested on live TV

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xp1337
05/29/20 6:28:00 AM
#446:


The Trump administration is breaking precedent by refusing to release updated economic projections this summer. Budget experts can't recall any WH opting to not release such a forecast going back as far as at least the 1970s. Obama, for instance, continued to release them during the Great Recession even when they didn't look good.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/05/28/white-house-coronavirus-economic-projections/

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GildedFool
05/29/20 6:57:11 AM
#447:


RPGlord95 posted...
CNN crew was just arrested on live TV

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1266315061221613569

Legitimately bizarre.

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red13n
05/29/20 6:57:44 AM
#448:


RPGlord95 posted...
CNN crew was just arrested on live TV

Time to burn up the Constitution and start over I guess.

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Dark Young Link
05/29/20 7:08:00 AM
#449:


Guessing the usual "Freedom of Speech" advocates are going to be oddly silent about this.

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LordoftheMorons
05/29/20 7:09:37 AM
#450:


Priorities!

https://twitter.com/dgordon52/status/1266013278892933122?s=21

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Mr Lasastryke
05/29/20 7:10:35 AM
#451:


Corrik7 posted...
Welcome to society. Anarchy is atta way.

"if you don't 100% agree with the law, you're an anarchist." - corrik


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