Current Events > You can't change my mind, Looting is wrong but destroying Gov. property is ok.

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Peaceful protests against heavy handed police forces have failed for 60 years. These types of protests have done nothing to reform the lethal interactions minorities continue to have with police.

Looting private businesses cant be defended. Address the problem and take up the issue with the ones who are responsible directly, if people continue to be killed in the street then the property of the police and government officials who allow it to happen are fair game.

I don't need to change a shitposting alt's mind

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Technically govt property is paid for by you, especially a large group.

Then again, rebuilding will come out of your pocket too.

darkphoenix181 posted...

Technically govt property is paid for by you, especially a large group.

Then again, rebuilding will come out of your pocket too.

And im fine with paying a monetary sum if it means people will quit being killed by police.

Lives over money.

Blue_School posted...

people will quit being killed by police.

this will never happen because people love committing crime and sometimes lethal force is required to stop them

Post this shit on your main or dont post at all

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You are literally paying for government property if you pay taxes. You are talking about robbing yourself. If you don't pay taxes realize that those of us that do could build a wall around those of you that don't and let you starve because we are smarter than you, more numerous than you, and far better armed.

totalnerdken posted...

I mean, I don't like the random looting and destruction either, I'd say it solves nothing. But people were pretty salty during the Kaepernick protests even though I thought that his protest was probably one of the most respectful and well thought out ones in American history. Like, I'm conservative and I just could not understand the hate for his protest.

So if people are going to go around being salty at that, they'll be salty at anything. So yeah, I still don't want people not involved to be hurt or attacked in any way, but it does feel like the criticisms of it are a little shallow by some people.

But with all that said, fuck public government buildings.

Yeah fuck those things like helping people. Liberals are wtf?

Atralis posted...

You are literally paying for government property if you pay taxes. You are talking about robbing yourself. If you don't pay taxes realize that those of us that do could build a wall around those of you that don't and let you starve because we are smarter than you, more numerous than you, and far better armed.

Blue_School posted...

And im fine with paying a monetary sum if it means people will quit being killed by police.

Whats my level of education and career field? How many guns do I own?

Blue_School posted...

Whats my level of education and career field? How many guns do I own?

I have no idea. I'm a software engineer in Colorado and I know I pay a ton of taxes. I also know that if the local police station gets burned down that is taking money from the post office, the local schools, the library, the roads, etc.. How does destruction of government property make any sense? How does the destruction of any property make sense? A guy was murdered by cops in Minneapolis so you are going to break windows at a shop a thousand miles away? Are you insane?

"The police" isn't a particular gang of people in America its a profession that exists in every society on earth. If you torch the police station then we will need to build another.

Atralis posted...

let you starve because we are smarter than you, more numerous than you, and far better armed.

Blue_School posted...

Whats my level of education and career field? How many guns do I own?

Atralis posted...

I have no idea.

Well put aside how silly this makes you look for now.

Atralis posted...

How does destruction of government property make any sense? How does the destruction of any property make sense? A guy was murdered by cops in Minneapolis so you are going to break windows at a shop a thousand miles away?

So the destruction of any property doesn't make sense as I said in my original post. The destruction of government property makes perfect sense since they are the actors perpetuation and using violence against civilians in the first place. It sends a strong message that you cant just kill us without any oversight. Police aren't our masters deciding who gets to live and who gets to die. Things need to change and if you ignore the peaceful protests that have been tried then the ante will be upped until they address the issue. Minnesota was only the catalyst. This problem is nationwide, do we need to go back and list the names from every city?

Blue_School posted...

do we need to go back and list the names from every city?

People die all the tie from all sorts of ills in society. We don't burn society down every time something bad happens.

Atralis posted...

People die all the tie from all sorts of ills in society

Which of these incidents is comparable to a person in with a high position of power being able to kill another with little accountability?

And even if you could think of one, which I doubt you'll be able to, we can simultaneously address that problem while fighting for this one.

Blue_School posted...

Which of these incidents is comparable to a person in with a high position of power being able to kill another with little accountability?

And even if you could think of one, which I doubt you'll be able to, we can simultaneously address that problem while fighting for this one.

You are still treating "the police" as some kind of monolith when it is a collection of thousands of agencies across the country and the world for that matter. How does molotoving the police station in mayberry make any more sense that doing it to a random station in Finland?

As I said before this is a profession that exists the world over not just a gang of people that have a hive mind in the US. There are bad cops. There are bad departments. But the solution isn't to run amok across the US breaking random windows or burning down random government buildings because the cops in Minneapolis did something terrible.

Atralis posted...

You are still treating "the police" as some kind of monolith

There are enough parallels across police precincts across major cities where these killings and occur that yes this is an issue ingrained into the police structure that needs to be changed on a Nationwide level.
Atralis posted...

How does molotoving the police station in mayberry make any more sense that doing it to a random station in Finland?

What are you talking about? Nobody is throwing Molotovs into police stations in Finland because Finland doesn't have the issue of police brutally killing and assaulting citizens. This is weak strawman you're trying to setup.

Atralis posted...

But the solution isn't to run amok across the US breaking random windows or burning down random government buildings because the cops in Minneapolis did something terrible.

It isn't just in Minneapolis its nationwide that these police executions occur. Another strawman. It would be great if the solution was peaceful protests but unfortunately they have been ignored and police continue to kill without punishment.