Current Events > UK PM Boris Johnson claims he refuses to be bullied into kneeling for BLM

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UnfairRepresent
07/03/20 5:34:34 PM
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Boris Johnson today made clear he would not 'take the knee' with Black Lives Matter protesters - insisting people should not be 'bullied' into making 'gestures'.

The comments, in a phone-in on LBC radio, came after Dominic Raab said last month that he would not personally 'take the knee' - a demonstration of support that has swept the world since the death of George Floyd in the US.

The Foreign Secretary faced a backlash after saying it seemed to be a symbol of 'subjugation' and the only two people he knelt for were the Queen and his wife when he proposed.

Pressed this morning on whether he would 'take the knee', Mr Johnson said: ''I don't believe in gestures. I believe i substance. I believe in doing things that make a practical difference.'

He cited his record as London mayor on improving diversity, saying there had been significant improvements in the past decade, and stressed he wanted to get more black representation in the Cabinet.

'That what I want to see,' Mr Johnson said. 'I would rather see a story of championing success and taking about the opportunities that we can open.'

The intervention was slated by some on Twitter who argued that Mr Johnson was perfectly happy to engage in 'gestures' such as clap for carers during the coronavirus crisis.

Mr Johnson said his concern was that he did not 'want people to be bullied into doing things that they don't necessarily want to do. If you think what happened with those police officers standing at the Cenotaph. They were being really insulted in quite aggressive terms and being told to take the knee,' he said. Some of them did. It was very difficult then for the other who didn't... I think it is very very important that you don't do things that make life difficult or embarrassing.'

When it was pointed out some senior police had now instructed officers not to take the knee on duty, Mr Johnson 'I do agree with that.' But he insisted: 'Of course there are injustices that we need to rectify, there is prejudice, of course there is prejudice out there.'

Guidance varies across the country, but the Met Police has told its officers they should not kneel at public order events for their own safety, although at other times it is down to personal choice. It emerged this week that soldiers have been banned from 'taking the knee' because it is deemed too political.

Commanders warned personnel at HMS Sultan in Gosport, Hampshire, that when in uniform they could not partake in the action. Defence officials are currently reviewing the policy to see if there's any leeway where they can show their respect in other ways.

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer has posted pictures of himself 'taking the knee' along with deputy Angela Rayner.

But in a TalkRadio interview last month, Mr Raab said the gesture 'feels to me like a symbol of subjugation and subordination rather than one of liberation and emancipation'.

He accepted other people 'feel differently' and insisted he understood the 'frustration' felt by oppressed communities, but added: 'I take the knee for two people, the Queen and the Mrs when I asked her to marry me.'

He said: 'I've got to say on this taking the knee thing I don't know maybe its got a broader history but it seems to me to be taken from the Game of Thrones feels to me like a symbol of subjugation and subordination rather than one of liberation and emancipation.

The remarks drew immediate anger, with MPs including Labour's Diane Abbott condemning Mr Raab for not knowing the origins of the protest.

Mr Raab later tried to cool the situation by tweeting that he had 'full respect' for the BLM movement and people were entitled to 'choose' whether to take the knee.

It has been widely adopted around the world following George Floyd's death, and used by Premier League footballers before matches.


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The twitter guy beat me too but it's rich for the guy who ran a bulldozer with "Get Brexit Done" through a wall as a publicity stunt, turns around and claims he does not believe in gestures.
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Dreamscissors
07/03/20 5:45:02 PM
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Boris has a history of making racist remarks about black people, not like him doing it would be sincere in any way.

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monkmith
07/03/20 5:46:35 PM
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donald trump lite is a racist, more at 11.

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creativerealms
07/03/20 5:48:11 PM
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Good thing no one is asking for that.

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Parappa09
07/03/20 5:48:18 PM
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monkmith posted...
donald trump lite is a racist, more at 11.
yup

and in other news, water is wet

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UnfairRepresent
07/04/20 8:25:41 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Good thing no one is asking for that.

well they were but ok
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SystemEgo
07/04/20 8:27:43 PM
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monkmith posted...
donald trump lite is a racist, more at 11.
This. I'm fucking fed up with our leaders trying to be best mates with whoever the POTUS is at the time.

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Voxwik
07/04/20 8:28:25 PM
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I don't agree with everything he says but I agree this mob mentality is stupid. If you do not 1:1 copy the mantra of the outrage mob, even if you say nothing at all, they slap the racist label on you. Don't feed the outrage mob.
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mustachedmystic
07/04/20 8:36:09 PM
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Someone should bully him into combing his hair.

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Dreamscissors
07/04/20 8:36:36 PM
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Voxwik posted...
I don't agree with everything he says but I agree this mob mentality is stupid. If you do not 1:1 copy the mantra of the outrage mob, even if you say nothing at all, they slap the racist label on you. Don't feed the outrage mob.
People call Boris Johnson a racist because he can't seem to stop himself from making blatantly racist comments. Nothing to do with outrage mobs.

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toyota
07/04/20 8:38:24 PM
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I support BLM but dont see what the kneeling business is all aqbout

And telling people to kneel or be deemed a racist IS bullying. Remember that white chick who got chased down the street and told to kneel. That was fucked up tbh
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PIITB415
07/04/20 8:43:16 PM
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Good for him. I personally think the entire gesture is pointless. Guess how many national anthems I've had stand for since middle school? None. It's so silly.

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Sad_Face
07/04/20 9:06:04 PM
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toyota posted...
And telling people to kneel or be deemed a racist IS bullying. Remember that white chick who got chased down the street and told to kneel. That was f***ed up tbh
If BLM protestors could, they would get people to lick their boots.

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UnfairRepresent
07/04/20 9:25:15 PM
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Sad_Face posted...

If BLM protestors could, they would get people to lick their boots.

This is what conservatives actually believe
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Hop103
07/04/20 9:32:10 PM
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Good, BLM is neither establishment nor truly for civil rights. Tearing down Union and abolitionist statues is in direct contradiction of their own message.
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Doe
07/04/20 9:55:48 PM
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Imagine kneeling to some old bitch because back in the day her ancestors used force to rule and subjugate the population. Imagine being British

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07/04/20 10:01:39 PM
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Lorenzo_2003
07/04/20 10:17:17 PM
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I am curious if you dont take the knee.

Will people treat you differently, like there is a non zero chance of you being harmed or something like that?

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VTBM
07/04/20 10:22:27 PM
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tm315
07/04/20 10:25:01 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Will people treat you differently, like there is a non zero chance of you being harmed or something like that?
I think there's always a non zero chance of that
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Lorenzo_2003
07/05/20 1:02:45 AM
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tm315 posted...
I think there's always a non zero chance of that

True. I think I should not have worded it that way. Thanks.

Anyway, Im trying to decide if what Johnson said has merit. By using the word bullying, hes implying theres a threat to not complying.

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MARKINGRAM22
07/09/20 5:50:54 AM
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Well if he quotes Hitler at least the leftist sports media will support him.
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Blue_School
07/09/20 5:52:55 AM
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Nobody should be bullied into doing anything they aren't comfortable with.

Common sense.
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DarthWendy
07/09/20 5:55:41 AM
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Prominent world leader refusing to pull artificial gestures requested by third party activists. Shocker.


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UnfairRepresent
07/09/20 5:58:26 AM
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DarthWendy posted...
Prominent world leader refusing to pull artificial gestures requested by third party activists. Shocker.


Again, kinda falls apart when he's frequently done gestures to appease fringe activists

its just liberals and black people he wont gesture for
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DarthWendy
07/09/20 6:05:16 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Again, kinda falls apart when he's frequently done gestures to appease fringe activists

its just liberals and black people he wont gesture for
Ok, allow me to rephrase.

Prominent world leader only pulling gestures in accordance to his political beliefs. Shocker.

Do you think if some activists asked President Macron to "take a knee" (although that's an American thing and doesn't belong in Europe), he would ? He wouldn't even dignify the request with an answer. Not because he's RAYCISS, since he's certainly not, but because he's a head of state, not Bono.


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WesternMedia
07/11/20 9:08:29 PM
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DarthWendy posted...

Ok, allow me to rephrase.

Prominent world leader only pulling gestures in accordance to his political beliefs. Shocker.

Do you think if some activists asked President Macron to "take a knee" (although that's an American thing and doesn't belong in Europe), he would ? He wouldn't even dignify the request with an answer. Not because he's RAYCISS, since he's certainly not, but because he's a head of state, not Bono.



Thats the point innit? The point is that he doesnt support BLM. You may personally agree with that and thats fine but this is to people who dont.
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