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KCF0107
08/18/20 6:46:40 PM
#1:


Which team's head coaching hire will end up with the longest tenure with their club?










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KCF0107
08/18/20 6:47:05 PM
#2:


The following are coaching retirements and changes (I don't bother looking at special teams) across the league. I want to reiterate that this has no effect on the game as users are free to make strategy changes that incoming coaches might affect. This is purely for your interest/entertainment.

Coaching Retirements
Seahawks HC Marty Schottenheimer
Former B8NFLL SB champion HC Gunther Cunningham

Head Coaches
Bears hire Cowboys HC Corey Dillon
Buccaneers hire Rams HC Brian Billick
Cowboys hire Colts DC Derrick Brooks
Dolphins promote DC Kailee Wong
Giants hire Wildcats DC Marvin Lewis
Jets hire Dolphins OC Chad Pennington
Rams hire Dolphins HC Kerry Collins
Ravens hire Giants HC Jerry Gray
Seahawks hire Buccaneers HC Mike Zimmer
Wildcats hire Ravens HC Bill Belichick

Offensive Coordinators
Bears hire Browns OC Chris Fuamatu-Ma'
Bengals hire Pumpkins OC Todd Green
Broncos hire Bengals OC Mike Alstott
Browns hire Vikings OC Earle Mosley
Buccaneers hire former Bills OC Cam Cameron
Chiefs hire former Express OC Terry Robiskie
Dolphins hire former B8NFLL Raiders OT Luke Petitgout
Express hire former Falcons OC Hines Ward
Jaguars hire former Ravens OC Jimmy Raye
Jets hire former Raiders OC Marvin Harrison
Pumpkins hire Washington OC Eric Moulds
Rams hire Express OC Gary Kubiak
Titans hire Rams OC Mike Mularky
Vikings hire former B8NFLL Ravens OT Flozell Adams
Washington hire Buccaneers OC Brad Johnson

Defensive Coordinators
Bears hire former Broncos HC Mike Shanahan
Bills hire Cowboys DC Vic Fangio
Colts hire Ravens DC Herm Edwards
Cowboys hire Wildcats HC Tom Coughlin
Dolphins hire former B8NFLL Chiefs OLB Victor Hobson
Falcons hire former B8NFLL Falcons MLB Gary Brackett
Ravens hire Bears HC Mike Singletary
Seahawks hire former B8NFLL Washington OLB E.J. Henderson
Wildcats hire Bears DC Jack Del Rio
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KCF0107
08/18/20 8:40:03 PM
#3:


Player Retirements by Team

Bears
RT Jordan Gross (644 blocks vs 67 sacks allowed, 3-time Pro Bowler, career Bear since inaugural season)
DT Vince Wilfork (857 tackles, 94 sacks, 16 FFs, 13 FRs, 3-time Pro Bowler, S3 DL of the Year, started all 208 B8NFLL games)
ROLB Clay Matthews
CB DeAngelo Hall (23 INTs, 6 FFs, 7 FRs, 13 return TDs, 2-time Pro Bowler, career Bear since inaugural season)

Bengals
RG Rex Hadnot (1-time Pro Bowler)
LG Eric Steinbach (career Bengal since inaugural season)
WR Matt Jones (career Bengal since inaugural season)
CB Johnathan Joseph
SS Greg Threat (514 tackles, 12 sacks, 19 INTs, 12 FFs, 6 FRs, 1-time Pro Bowler)
RE Terrell Suggs (430 tackles, 98 sacks, 1 INT, 14 FFs, 13 FRs, 1-time Pro Bowler, career Bengal since inaugural season)

Bills
QB Matt Flynn (in S5, he beat out incumbent and former #2 overall pick Matt Leinart for the Jags and had a 76.3 passer rating on nearly 60% completion with 2465 yards, 21 TDs, and 15 INTs)
TE Troy Bienemann
LE Dan Cody

Broncos
LG Aaron Lips (in 12 seasons across 100+ starts, he never made the playoffs as a member of the Raiders, Lightning, and Broncos)
LG Reggie Wells
WR Roy Hall (was on a roster for only his rookie and final seasons [S3 and S13])
CB Josh Wilson
RE Tony Hargrove

Browns
FS Kenny Ingram
RT Nat Dorsey (career Brown since inaugural season)

Buccaneers
K Jay Feely (439 career FGM, 3-time Pro Bowler)
RG Eric Heitmann (2-time Pro Bowler)
C Na'Shan Goddard
MLB Pat Lowery

Chiefs
WR Ray Williams (1-time Pro Bowler)
WR Jeff Samardzija
MLB Odell Thurman (636 tackles, 9 sacks, 12 INTs, 11 FFs, 19 FRs)
CB Mike Jenkins

Colts
FB J.D. Runnels
P Shane Lechler (1404 punts for 62243 yards [44.3 avg.], S5 and S11 P of the Year, 1-time Pro Bowler, career Colt since inaugural season)
TE Dominique Byrd (742 rec for 6316 yards, 34 TDs, S6 TE of the Year, 6-time Pro Bowler, career Colt since S2)
DT Darnell Dockett (472 tackles, 75 sacks, 1 INT, 12 FFs, 8 FRs)
LT Jammal Brown (career Colt since inaugural season)
RT Michael Roos

Cowboys
TE Jason Witten (733 rec for 6187 yards, 36 TDs, 1-time Pro Bowler, career Cowboy since inaugural season)
CB A.J. Hudson

Dolphins
RG Kendall Simmons (516 blocks vs 94 sacks allowed, 3-time Pro Bowler, career Dolphin since inaugural season)

Express
TE Kellen Winslow (786 rec for 5607 yards, 19 TDs, only missed 6 games in his career, 1-time Pro Bowler, career Express since inaugural season)
WR Roddy White (922 rec for 10798 yards, 79 TDs, S12 WR of the Year, 4-time Pro Bowler)
QB Philip Rivers (2253-3712 yards, 23083 yards, 153 TDs, 105 INTs, 80.5 passer rating, 3-time Pro Bowler, S12 QB of the Year)
FS Pat Watkins (332 tackles, 6 sacks, 18 INTs, 4 FFs, 8 FRs, career Express since S2 and first draft pick for the franchise [#8 overall])
WR Reggie Williams (608 rec for 7446 yards, 47 TDs, 1-time Pro Bowler, career Express since inaugural season)
C Ryan O'Callaghan
RE Michael Boley
CB Justin Miller (1-time Pro Bowler)
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KCF0107
08/18/20 8:40:35 PM
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Falcons
SS Thomas Davis (930 tackles, 26 sacks, 16 INTs, 14 FFs, 21 FRs, 2-time Pro Bowler, S13 DB and Defensive Player of the Year, career Falcon since inaugural season)
HB Lonta Hobbs (2124 carries for 8439 yards, 138 rec for 1117 yards, 67 total TDs, S10 HB and Offensive Player of the Year, 2-time Pro Bowler)
TE Garrett Mills

49ers
SS Bernard Pollard (339 tackles, 8 sacks, 14 INTs, 8 FFs, 7 FRs, career 49er since S3)

Giants
none

Jaguars
HB Adrian Peterson (3037 carries for 13561 yards, 209 rec for 1682 yards, 92 total TDs, S3 Offensive Rookie of the Year, S9 co-HB of the Year, 4-time Pro Bowler, career Jag since S3)
WR Michael Clayton (859 rec for 10202 yards, 81 TDs, 2-time Pro Bowler, career Jag since inaugural season)
LE Ty Warren (713 tackles, 107 sacks, 1 INT, 22 FFs, 11 FRs, 5-time Pro Bowler, career Jag since inaugural season)

Jets
TE Tim Day (career Jet since S2)
CB Demetrice Webb (25 INTs, career Jet since S3 after he became the first and only 1st round pick to not sign with their original team [Rams])
LE Tamba Hali
LE Jeb Huckeba
RE Chauncey Davis (career Jet since inaugural season)
LE Kenechi Udeze (1-time Pro Bowler)

Lightning
K Neil Rackers (433 FGM, S6 co and S13 solo K of the Year, 1-time Pro Bowler, career Lightning since inaugural season)
WR Braylon Edwards (625 rec for 7590 yards, 57 TDs, career Lightning since inaugural season)
HB Brandon Jackson
CB Corey Graham
RE Ryan Riddle
WR Nichiren Flowers
DT Gerald Anderson (482 tackles, 79 sacks, 10 FFs, 9 FRs, career Lightning since S2, started 160 straight games until they drafted Aaron Donald)
TE Matt Herian
CB Brent Grimes (1-time Pro Bowler)

Lions
ROLB Wesley Jefferson
HB James Bryant

Packers
none

Panthers
LE Abdul Hodge (1st ever draft pick in B8NFLL history)
CB Adam Jones (246 tackles, 31 INTs, 3 FFs, 9 FRs, 4 return TDs, 2-time Pro Bowler)
SS Japhus Brown 291 tackles, 10 sacks, 19 INTs, 6 FFs, 5 FRs
FS Michael Griffin
ROLB Marcus Freeman

Patriots
RG Brandon Moore (3-time Pro Bowler)
WR Larry Fitzgerlad (975 rec for 12299 yards, 84 TDs, 4-time Pro Bowler)

Pioneers
P Chris Hanson (1332 punts for 58092 yards [43.6 avg], 2-time Pro Bowler [both in the league's first two seasons])
WR Mark Clayton (1005 rec for 12882 yards, 91 TDs, S1 co and S11 solo WR of the Year, S11 MVP, 8-time Pro Bowler)
DT LeKevin Smith (491 tackles, 86 sacks, 12 FFs, 8 FRs, 3-time Pro Bowler)
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KCF0107
08/18/20 8:41:08 PM
#5:


Pumpkins
SS Michael Huff (766 tackles, 17 sacks, 25 INTs, 10 FFs, 9 FRs, S12 DB of the Year, 1-time Pro Bowler)
LG Mike Williams (1-time Pro Bowler, career Pumpkin since inaugural season)
HB Cornell Brockington (2664 carries for 10572 yards, 427 rec for 3313 yards, 80 total TDs, career Pumpkin since S3)
QB Ryan Fitzpatrick

Raiders
FB Jason Davis (47 total TDs including a KR, career Raider since S2)
RG Adam Goldberg (1-time Pro Bowler)
RT George Foster (706 blocks vs 52 sacks, 7-time Pro Bowler, career Raider since inaugural season)
LG Stephen Peterman
RT Sean Locklear (130 blocks vs 9 sacks allowed, allowed 83 blocks vs 2 sacks allowed in his 30s)
RT Marcus Johnson (59 blocks vs 0 sacks allowed, literally perfect [in pass protection at least])
MLB Derek Mendoza
RE Justin Tuck

Rams
K Sebastian Janikowski (468 FGM, 1-time Pro Bowler)
WR Martin Nance (786 rec for 9404 yards, 74 TDs, 2-time Pro Bowler)
RT Ryan Diem
RG Vince Manuwai
FS Terrance Washington
LG Drew Hogden
RE Adam Carriker

Ravens
HB Carl Stewart
QB Ben Roethlisberger (3390-5542, 36871 yards, 255 TDs, 164 INTs, S3 and S4 QB of the Year, S3 MVP, 3-time Pro Bowler)
MLB Rian Wallace (770 tackles, 27 sacks, 7 INTs, 11 FFs, 12 FRs, 1-time Pro Bowler)
MLB Gerris Wilkinson (1035 tackles, 23 sacks, 15 INTs, 13 FFs, 18 FRs)

Seahawks
LT Levi Jones (517 blocks vs 55 sacks allowed, 1-time Pro Bowler)
MLB Lofa Tatupu (1172 tackles, 35 sacks, 20 INTs, 17 FFs, 20 FRs, S1 co-Defensive Rookie of the Year, S5 LB and Defensive Player of the Year, 2-time Pro Bowler)
MLB Aaron Harris 564 tackles, 19 sacks, 3 INTs, 4 FFs, 11 FRs, career Seahawk since S2)
Steelers
LT Mike Pearson (513 blocks vs 45 sacks allowed, career Steeler since inaugural season)
CB Trumaine Banks (1-time Pro Bowler)

Titans
LG Bryant McKinnie (career Titan since inaugural season)
C Mike Degory (career Titan since S2)
SS Tyrell Johnson

Vikings
HB Courtney Lewis (despite not being named a full-time starter until he was 30, 1850 carries for 8189 yards, 251 rec for 2067 yards, 61 total TDs, 1-time Pro Bowler)
RT Vernon Carey
FS Nate Salley
CB Darrell Hunter

Washington
DT Kevin Williams (617 tackles, 87 sacks, 2 INTs, 12 FFs, 7 FRs, career Washington since inaugural season)
FS Sean Taylor (894 tackles, 20 sacks, 27 INTs, 13 FFs, 12 FRs, 3-time Pro Bowler)
FB Marcus Draper
RG Jeb Terry
RE Jonathan Fanene

Wildcats
K Paul Edinger (393 FGM, was the catalyst for the Cowboys' S10 SB run)
C Trevor Hutton
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KCF0107
08/18/20 8:46:12 PM
#6:


NFL Draft Order
1. Bengals
2. Bills
3. Packers
4. Wildcats
5. Buccaneers
6. Seahawks
7. Jaguars
8. Bears
9. Chiefs
10. Jets
11. Raiders
12. Lightning
13. 49ers
14. Browns
15. Titans
16. Broncos
17. Giants
18. Pumpkins
19. Falcons
20. Steelers
21. Patriots
22. Lions
23. Ravens
24. Washington
25. Express
26. Panthers
27. Rams
28. Colts
29. Cowboys
30. Dolphins
31. Pioneers
32. Vikings

Bears own Pioneers 3rd
Bills own Patriots 5th and 7th
Browns own Pioneers 5th
Packers own Pioneers 1st + 3rd, Bears 5th
Patriots own Bills 7th
Pioneers own Browns 3rd + 4th, Bears 4th
Steelers own Titans 6th
Titans own Browns 1st, Steelers 2nd + 7th
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profDEADPOOL
08/18/20 8:50:35 PM
#7:


tag

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Eddv
08/18/20 9:06:29 PM
#8:


Giants None eh.

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KCF0107
08/18/20 9:07:18 PM
#9:


Offseason in a Nutshell

Every user this season is a returner, so none of these should need much explanation to anyone. There are four major events during the offseason. They will be explained in full detail when the time comes, but here they are:

1. Restricted Free Agency
2. Unrestricted Free Agents
3. NFL Draft + Signing Rookies
4. Free Agency

Restricted Free Agency - This is easily the most complex of the four, yet it is the one that has the lowest activity. A small sub-section of players whose contracts run out are considered restricted free agents. These players can, but do not have to, be signed by their original teams to a 1 year contract at one of three fixed amounts. Those that do sign can then be offered contracts by any of the other 31 teams to multiyear deals. Any team who has a player sign a contract with another team will then have the opportunity to match said contract or let them sign with another team and receive NFL Draft pick compensation.

Unrestricted Free Agents - Any player with an expired contract who was not considered a restricted free agent is thus an unrestricted free agent. Teams then can elect to re-sign the remaining players or let them enter the free agent market. Unlike the previous event, the other 31 teams cannot do anything to you, so you are free to operate without outside pressure. There are a few more wrinkles, but it is pretty straightforward.

NFL Draft + Signing Rookies - This is an event where all 32 teams can select college football players to join their team. Each team normally has seven draft picks, one for each of the seven rounds of the draft. The order that a team selects is based on their record and playoff performance, if applicable, from the season before. Earlier in the topic, I mentioned this season's draft order, and all teams are free to trade draft picks. After the draft, a separate period of time is devoted to signing all the players that a team drafted.

Free Agency - All players not signed or re-signed in the previous three events enter the free agent pool, and this is the time that every team is able to bid on the services of those without a team (aka free agents).
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KCF0107
08/18/20 9:09:17 PM
#10:


The Almighty Slash Line

All contracts will be presented to you via slash lines. It is imperative that you interpret and understand a slash line and its components, so here is an example to kick off my seasonal explanation:

3 / $7.50 mil / $1.80 mil

3 = length in seasons that the contract will last. All contracts will end up being between 1-7 seasons in length. There are some in-game and league-mandated limitations on length, but I will explain that rather soon.

$7.50 mil = Total salary that a player will earn over the life of the contract should the contract not be reworked while still under said contract or the player released.

Using this example, the player will receive $7.50 mil over three seasons, which gives him an average cap hit of $2.50 mil. His cap hit will not be $2.50 mil in each season though. This contract will see the player's cap hit rise each season, so his first year cap hit might be $2.12 mil, $2.47 mil for the second season, and $2.91 mil for the final season.

$1.80 mil = Portion of total salary that is guaranteed, aka signing bonus. For most, this is the hardest thing to grasp about the slash line and contracts in general. The NFL does not have fully guaranteed contracts, which means that what a player signs for might not actually be what they receive in the end. The team that signs a player to a contract will always be on the hook for the final figure in a slash line, with the only exception being if a player retires while under contract.

Using this example, the player might have a cap hit of $2.12, $2.47, and $2.91 mil in the first, second, and third seasons. However, his signing bonus is stretched out evenly across every season. The annual bonus in this contract would be $600k ($1.80 mil / 3 years). The annual bonus is a feature on the team financial sheet, so that info will always be available to you.

Now, if you trade or release a player under contract with guaranteed money, you will receive a reduction in your salary cap space, aka cap penalty, that is equal to their annual bonus x the years remaining on their contract. Using this example once again, let's say the player is released after the first season. That would leave him with $1.20 mil left in guaranteed money ($600k annual bonus x 2 years left on contract). The team that signed him to that contract would then be issued a cap penalty the following offseason to the tune of $1.20 mil.

If that player would be traded instead, the original team would receive the same cap penalty, but the new team would have a discounted contract. Because the original team is always on the hook for the guaranteed money, the $1.20 mil that is still owed that player is taken out of the contract for the new team. If the cap hits for years 2 and 3 were originally $2.47 and $2.91 mil and the annual bonus was $600k, then the new cap hits for the new team would be $1.87 and $2.31 mil. The new team could then release or trade the player at any time without financial repercussions since the contract no longer had any guaranteed money attached.

Finally, in case someone doesn't know, mil = dollars in millions while k = dollars in thousands.
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KCF0107
08/18/20 9:11:37 PM
#11:


To Do:
- Hall of Fame Ballot
- Start updating spreadsheet, including all changes for making the Raiders and Bengals under user control now
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KCF0107
08/18/20 9:44:44 PM
#12:


I am currently updating the sheet some, but I want to inform everyone that Jets LT Jake Long is demanding a trade in case anyone was interested.

He is 30, 87 overall, and before being relegated to a backup last season, he was coming off of two seasons where he posted 85 blocks against 4 sacks allowed. He has three years left on his deal with total salary left to be paid of just $11.95 mil across those three seasons.

If anyone is interested, feel free to shoot me a PM or DM me on Discord of a trade offer that I can then relay to the AI and see if they would accept it. If multiple people send me offers that are also acceptable to the AI, I would probably use my discretion to determine which would best suit the Jets, but I want people to remember that even though I am allowing trading draft picks with AI starting this season, that is limited only to picks for picks trades and not something like this involving a player.

If any of the new users who were in charge of AI teams last season (aka Bengals and Raiders), I will try and update the spreadsheet with the pertinent info in a timely manner.

For my two cents, the Jets don't really have a glaring need when it comes to a starter, but they could use some youthful depth, especially on the offensive side.
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TheKnightOfNee
08/18/20 9:59:34 PM
#13:


tag

These two retirements are both okay to happen. That's a nice turn of events.

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KCF0107
08/18/20 11:15:31 PM
#14:


The Anaheim Lightning through Denver Broncos have their ratings updated
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Eddv
08/18/20 11:17:19 PM
#15:


The Denver Broncos?!?

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KCF0107
08/19/20 1:31:18 AM
#16:


The Detroit Lions through New York Giants have their ratings updated
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KCF0107
08/19/20 2:02:35 AM
#17:


Here are some random head coaching tidbits

Background
Offense - 15
Defense - 17

Race
White - 21
Black - 9
Hispanic - 1 (Panthers HC Ron Rivera)
Native Hawaiian/Asian - 1 (Dolphins HC Kailee Wong)

Career HC Record by Division (includes records prior to B8NFLL)
AFC West: 422-450-1
AFC East: 201-208
AFC North: 646-577-3
AFC South: 236-277-1

NFC West: 276-257-1
NFC East: 209-176-2
NFC North: 461-344
NFC South: 428-409-1

*Dolphins HC Kailee Wong, Jets HC Chad Pennington, and Cowboys HC Derrick Brooks have yet to coach a game
*Pioneers HC Dom Capers accounts for the overwhelming majority of all the games coached from the AFC South as Colts HC Ron Meeks and Titans HC Jamie Sharper have been HCs for a grand total of three seasons
*Bill Belichick is the only NFC West coach with a sub-.500 record lol
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Ranlom
08/19/20 2:37:18 AM
#18:


Told Rex not to hire any former Express/Hawks/Whatever their name is this week. C'mon man.

I love how Paul Edinger's legacy is causing the Cowboys to get in the playoffs in their "down" year.

Eddv posted...
The Denver Broncos?!?
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mccheyne
08/19/20 10:38:50 AM
#19:


Tag

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KCF0107
08/19/20 6:46:11 PM
#20:


@Bloodychess
@PatrickMahomes

I'm just informing you two that B8NFLL S14 has now begun. We won't be officially beginning offseason events for awhile as it takes me some time to update everything in the spreadsheet and whatnot, but I wanted you to be aware.
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Fastbreak
08/19/20 7:21:20 PM
#21:


Tag

This is the run

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PatrickMahomes
08/19/20 7:35:51 PM
#22:


Suggs retired???? FML

thanks for the tag

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MegamanX
08/19/20 9:14:57 PM
#23:


Tag

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Bloodychess
08/19/20 9:15:01 PM
#24:


All my RT's retired yay

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DoubleTangicide
08/19/20 9:24:34 PM
#25:


Bloodychess posted...
All my RT's retired yay

guess I know what youre drafting in round 1 lol

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ShatteredElysium
08/20/20 1:54:56 PM
#26:


Bloodychess posted...
All my RT's retired yay

For what it's worth, there doesn't seem to be any real difference between a LT and RT with the way we sim. It's not like real life where an OT may be better at being a blind side tackle or something. You can basically have any OT play at LT or RT without penalty.
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SockoressKnight
08/20/20 2:22:34 PM
#27:


My starting RG is an RT

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ShatteredElysium
08/20/20 2:29:26 PM
#28:


Which you can do but it needs to be said that there may be an OVR drop involved if a G plays OT. Whereas there isn't for a RT playing LT or vice versa
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KCF0107
08/20/20 8:40:28 PM
#29:


B8NFLL Hall of Fame Ballot

The following posts will contain players and their career accomplishments up for immortalization. From a pool of 22 players, I narrowed it down to a final list of 15. There is no way for me to find out a player's career ranks within B8NFLL, so when it comes to stats, I will provide where they rank in a particular stat (possibly even by a particular position) among active and recently retired players at the moment of their retirement (aka now).

I originally had a hardline stance of only considering players who debuted in the inaugural season or later and incumbent players whose career stat line showed no production entering the inaugural season (mostly OL). I immediately made one exception to include Tatum Bell who holds the record for most rushing yards in a season and whose stats pre-B8NFLL were clearly laid out and were in line with what I read online. There were only a few other players like Bell that I would have considered to make an exception for, but I have decided to scrap that idea, and will continue with my original thought, so unfortunately players such as Vince Wilfork and Ty Warren won't be on the ballot.

Participation is of course voluntary, and you can post your responses, PM them to me, DM me on Discord, discuss or whatever. You decide what your criteria for selection is. You can base it solely off of the context of B8NFLL, compare to real life stats, or some marriage of the two. We had a decent turnout last season, but given how active participation in the league has its ups and valleys, I don't think that I will have a specific target percentage of Yes votes that will ensure enshrinement. It will of course be north of 50% at the very least.
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KCF0107
08/20/20 8:41:13 PM
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1. HB Adrian Peterson
- Played all 11 seasons for the Jaguars (140 games)
- 3037 carries for 13561 yards (4.4 YPC), 87 TDs, 26 fumbles (1 every 5.3 games)
- 209 receptions for 1682 yards (8.0 YPC), 5 TDs
- Season averages of 276.0 carries for 1232.8 yards, 19.0 receptions for 152.9 yards, 8.3 total TDs
- 4-time Pro Bowler (S3, S4, S8, S9)
- Rookie of the Year (S3)
- Co-Running Back of the Year (S9)

Peterson ranks 1st among HBs in rushing yards, 1st in rushing TDs, T-4th in rushing YPC among HBs with at least 500 carries

2. HB Cornell Brockington
- Played all 11 seasons for the Pumpkins (156 games)
- 2664 carries for 10572 yards (3.9 YPC), 64 TDs, 32 fumbles (1 every 4.8 games)
- 427 receptions for 3313 yards (7.7 YPC), 16 TDs
- Season averages of 242.1 carries for 961.0 yards, 38.8 receptions for 301.1 yards, 7.2 total TDs

Brockington ranks 5th among HBs in rushing yards, 6th in rushing TDs, 1st in receptions, 2nd in receiving yards, 2nd in receiving TDs

3. HB Courtney Lewis
- Played S3-S6 for the Bills, S7 for the Panthers, S8 for the Steelers, S9 for the Dolphins, S10-S13 for the Vikings (146 games, 78 starts)
- 1850 carries for 8189 yards (4.4 YPC), 49 TDs, 21 fumbles (1 every 7.0 games)
- 251 receptions for 2067 yards (8.2 YPC), 12 TDs
- Season averages of 168.1 carries for 774.4 yards, 22.8 receptions for 187.9 yards, 5.5 total TDs
- 1-time Pro Bowler (S12)

4. WR Mark Clayton
- Played all 13 seasons for the Pioneers (199 games)
- 1005 receptions for 12882 yards (12.8 YPC), 91 TDs
- Season averages of 77.3 receptions for 990.0 yards, 7.0 TDs
- 8-time Pro Bowler (S1, S2, S3, S4, S9, S10, S11, S13)
- Co-Wide Receiver of the Year (S1) and Wide Receiver of the Year (S11)
- Most Valuable Player (S11)
- B8NFLL record 1759 receiving yards in a season (S11)

Clayton ranks 1st among WRs in receptions, 1st in receiving yards, 1st in TDs

5. WR Roddy White
- Played S1-S5 for Dolphins, S6-S13 for Express (205 games, 189 starts)
- 922 receptions for 10798 yards (11.7 YPC), 80 TDs (1 rushing)
- Season averages of 70.9 receptions for 830.6 yards, 6.1 TDs
- 4-time Pro Bowler (S6, S7, S12, S13)
- Wide Receiver of the Year (S12)

White ranks 2nd among WRs in receptions, 3rd in receiving yards, 4th in TDs
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KCF0107
08/20/20 8:42:44 PM
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6. TE Dominique Byrd
- Played all 12 seasons for the Colts (187 games, 165 starts)
- 742 receptions for 6316 yards, 34 TDs
- Season averages of 61.8 receptions, 526.3 yards, 2.8 TDs
- 6-time Pro Bowler (S6, S8, S9, S10, S11, S13)
- Tight End of the Year (S6)

Byrd ranks 3rd among TEs in receptions, 1st in receiving yards, 4th in receiving TDs

7. RT George Foster
- Played all 13 seasons for the Raiders (184 games)
- 706 blocks vs 52 sacks allowed (13.5 blocks per sack)
- Season averages of 54.3 blocks vs 4.0 sacks allowed
- Allowed six or fewer blocks in every season
- 5-time Pro Bowler (S1, S3, S4, S5, S12)
- Twice led the NFL in blocks (S3, S5)

Foster ranks 4th among OL in blocks, 72nd in sacks allowed (23rd among OTs)

8. RG Brandon Moore
- Played S1-S10 for Chiefs, S11-S13 for Patriots (180 games)
- 512 blocks vs 84 sacks allowed (6.0 blocks per sack)
- 3-time Pro Bowler (S6, S8, S12)

Moore ranks 25th in blocks (10th among interior OL), T-27th in sacks allowed (T-24th among interior OL)

9. LE Abdul Hodge
- Played S2-S5 for Bears, S6-S11 for Washington, S12-S13 for Panthers (192 games, 112 starts)
- 433 tackles, 40 sacks, 1 INT, 6 FFs, 6 FRs
- B8NFLL's first NFL Draft pick
- Played a backup MLB his first four seasons, a backup DE in S6, and from S7 onward, he was a starting DE never missing a game

10. DT LeKevin Smith
- Played S2-S12 for Lions, S13 for Pioneers (176 games, 167 starts)
- 491 tackles, 86 sacks, 12 FFs, 8 FRs
- Season averages of 40.9 tackles, 7.1 sacks, 1.0 FFs, 0.6 FRs
- 3-time Pro Bowler (S2, S4, S6)
- Tied for NFL sack lead his rookie season (14)

Smith ranks 9th among DL in tackles (7th among DTs), 7th among DL in sacks (3rd among DTs)
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KCF0107
08/20/20 8:43:31 PM
#32:


11. MLB Lofa Tatupu
- Played S1-S4 for the Cowboys, S5-S13 for the Seahawks (182 games)
- 1172 tackles, 35 sacks, 20 INTs, 17 FFs, 20 FRs, 2 defensive TDs
- Season averages of 90.1 tackles, 2.6 sacks, 1.5 INTs, 1.3 FFs, 1.5 FRs
- 2-time Pro Bowler (S5, S7)
- Co-Rookie of the Year (S1)
- Linebacker of the Year (S5)
- Defensive Player of the Year (S5)
- Shares B8NFLL record for tackles in a season (186)

Tatupu ranks 1st among LBs in tackles, T-11th in sacks, 1st in INTs, T-1st in FFs, 2nd in FRs

12. MLB Gerris Wilkinson
- Played S2-S5 for the Wildcats, S6-S10 for the Rams, S11 for the Lions, S13 for the Ravens (150 games, 126 starts)
- 1035 tackles, 23 sacks, 15 INTs, 13 FFs, 18 FRs, 3 defensive TDs
- Season averages of 94.0 tackles, 2.0 sacks, 1.3 INTs, 1.1 FFs, 1.6 FRs

Wilkinson ranks 2nd among LBs in tackles, T-32nd in sacks, T-9th in FFs, T-4th in FRs

13. CB Adam Jones
- Played S1-S6 for the Chiefs, S7-S13 for the Panthers (193 games)
- 246 tackles, 31 INTs, 3 FFs, 9 FRs, 2 defensive TDs
- 4 career KR/PR TDs
- 2-time Pro Bowler (S2, S7)

Jones ranks 2nd in INTs

14. SS Thomas Davis
- Played all 13 seasons for the Falcons (195 games)
- 930 tackles, 26 sacks, 16 INTs, 14 FFs, 21 FRs, 1 defensive TD
- Season averages of 71.5 tackles, 2.0 sacks, 1.2 INTs, 1.0 FFs, 1.6 FRs
- 2-time Pro Bowler (S5, S13)
- Defensive Back of the Year (S13)
- Defensive Player of the Year (S13)

Davis ranks 2nd among DBs in tackles, 2nd in sacks, T-33rd in INTs, 2nd in FFs, 1st in FRs

15. SS Michael Huff
- Played S2-S6 for the Dolphins, S7-S13 for the Pumpkins (188 games, 107 starts)
- 766 tackles, 17 sacks, 25 INTs, 10 FFs, 9 FRs
- Season averages of 63.8 tackles, 1.4 sacks, 2.0 INTs, 0.8 FFs, 0.7 FRs
- 1-time Pro Bowler (S12)
- Defensive Back of the Year (S12)

Huff ranks 3rd among DBs in tackles, T-4th in sacks, 4th in INTs, T-5th in FFs, T-10th in FRs
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KCF0107
08/20/20 8:44:04 PM
#33:


I didn't bother to do ranking stats for a few players, but one that I want to point out is HB Courtney Lewis. As you can see, he didn't even have 80 starts to his name in his career, so his overall stat rankings wouldn't have looked all that impressive. I am going to break down his stats for every season to give people a better idea of who he was as a player

S3 Bills - 30 carries for 110 yards, 6 receptions for 76 yards (8 games, 0 starts)
S4 Bills - 156 carries for 621 yards, 23 receptions for 188 yards, 5 total TDs (16 games, 3 starts)
S5 Bills - 97 carries for 438 yards, 11 receptions for 88 yards, 4 total TDs (16 games, 2 starts)
S6 Bills - 88 carries for 351 yards, 4 receptions for 30 yards, 2 total TDs (12 games, 0 starts)
S7 Panthers - 130 carries for 525 yards, 21 receptions for 185 yards, 3 total TDs (10 games, 8 starts)
S8 Steelers - 50 carries for 244 yards, 5 receptions for 46 yards, 3 total TDs (16 games, 0 starts)
S9 Dolphins - 169 carries for 786 yards, 14 receptions for 127 yards, 6 total TDs (11 games, 8 starts)
S10 Vikings - 185 carries for 927 yards, 39 receptions for 402 yards, 6 total TDs (11 games, 11 starts)
S11 Vikings - 343 carries for 1584 yards, 51 receptions for 395 yards, 11 total TDs (16 games, 16 starts)
S12 Vikings - 352 carries for 1457 yards, 49 receptions for 360 yards, 9 total TDs (16 games, 16 starts)
S13 Vikings - 250 carries for 1146 yards, 28 receptions for 170 yards, 12 total TDs (14 games, 14 starts)
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KCF0107
08/20/20 9:27:43 PM
#34:


As always, I will publicly reveal my ballot

HB Adrian Peterson - Yes

He's an obvious pick. He was the offensive identity of the Jags, a perennial playoff team, for essentially his entire career. He was always thought of as one of the elite HBs, even the best at times, around the league for his entire career. In spite of playing "just" 11 seasons with two where he missed at least half of the games and his final season where he missed five, he amassed over 13500 yards on 4.4 YPC and nearly 100 total TDs despite being a non-factor in the passing game. His 96.8 yards per game are the second highest among players with at least 1000 carries, and his 4.4 YPC is tied for the highest among HBs with at least 2000 carries.

HB Cornell Brockington - No

I put him on the ballot because of his counting stats, but I never considered him to be a Hall of Famer. He has some feel-good elements to his story like being one of the few long-term starting HBs to be taken after the 1st round of the draft, going to an abysmal franchise, enduring seasons of ugly football, and finally helping lead the franchise to its first playoff berth. However, he is basically a slightly better version of Cedric Benson. His 3.9 YPC is mediocre, and had a 4.0 or better in just four of his 11 seasons. Despite being healthy, he eclipsed the 1000 yard rushing mark in just five of his 11 seasons with a career high of 1164 yards. His role as a pass catcher really helped out QB Chris Leak's (they were taken in the same draft) development, but that doesn't make you a Hall of Famer.

HB Courtney Lewis - Yes

I expect to be the only vote for him, and I understand why because the counting stats just aren't there, but considering that he didn't even start five full seasons worth of games thanks to being a backup in Buffalo and Pittsburgh and a mid-season injury signing for the other three franchises he played after, it is remarkable that he was able to amass over 10000 total yards in his career. That is a testament to his skill and efficiency. Notable for being the first player selected from the Bills five draft picks that they acquired from the Tom Brady to Tampa Bay trade, he eventually showed that he was worthy of that selection, even if it had to be outside of Buffalo. In his three full seasons as a starter, he was a HB of the Year candidate every season and was once an Offensive Player of the Year candidate. If you were on board with Terrell Davis being rewarded for his short peak in real life, I think Lewis is an easy call too especially when you consider his status as a super-fill-in-sub for his time before Minnesota.

WR Mark Clayton - Yes

He holds the B8NFLL record for most career receptions and receiving yards (who knows both records will fall), and he did this while on some brutally bad offenses. Pre-Russell Wilson led offenses had some ugly passing games, yet he was able to be named co-WR of the Year in his rookie season. In addition to being the only WR to be named MVP, he also holds the B8NFLL record for most rec yards in a season. He's a slam dunk pick.

WR Roddy White - No

I had to give this some serious thought. Like Brockington, he has a feel-good story. He began with the Dolphins in the inaugural season as the #2 WR as a 77 overall rookie on the worst WR corps in the league. He was able to ascend to the mid-80s, but after they signed WR Andre Johnson in free agency in S4, he was relegated to the slot before being traded to the Hawks the following offseason. Becoming a #1 WR for the first time, he was able to climb up to the lower 90s and eventually eclipsed 1000 yards three times, including his final two seasons at the ages of 34 and 35. He has the counting stats, and it is unknown how career receiver stats will shake out now that almost none of the incumbent players when this league began are left in the league, but I think he was a very good player, sometimes great, but not elite. I may regret this if it turns out his stats will hold up as the league goes along, but my gut tells me to say no to his Hall of Fame candidacy.
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08/20/20 9:55:56 PM
#35:


TE Dominique Byrd - No

TEs are really hard to gauge as they don't put up eye-popping stats on a seasonal basis, and a lot of them just kind of bunch up together and don't distinguish themselves from one another when it comes to receiving stats. I think Byrd was able to somewhat distinguish himself as one of the best TEs in the league's history, but even with six Pro Bowls and a TE of the Year award, I just don't know if he's the first TE that we should put in the Hall of Fame. Right now, I am saying no, but I could change my mind.

RT George Foster - Yes

Having a block:sack ratio over 13 is really great everyone. It's wild thinking how much the offensive skill position players failed this team over the first 10 or so seasons of the league because they had three, imo, Hall of Fame OL on that team (G Tutan Reyes, C Chukky Okobi, and Foster). He also led the league in blocks twice and made five Pro Bowls, so that's just icing on the cake.

RG Brandon Moore - No

Moore had some rough individual seasons and played for some anemic offenses at times, but he still managed to get an overall high block total and a block:sack ratio of 6 as an interior lineman, which is great. However, I don't think it is great enough for Hall of Fame consideration especially when I see some of his contemporaries about to retire having stronger cases.

LE Abdul Hodge - No

I really just wanted to take the time to commemorate our first NFL Draft pick ever. He was screwed over by the Bears GM. He sat on the bench for four seasons as a backup MLB and was cut by the AI. I made him switch over to DE where he was signed by Washington, only to be a backup there. At the age of 30, he finally got to start his first NFL game and started all 112 games across his final seven seasons in the league. There is no way for me to determine a lot of the in-depth analytical stats that you can in real life, but I strongly suspect that Hodge was an elite run defender in his career. The fact that a converted MLB who was really a run-defender was able to amass 40 sacks in 7 seasons is pretty impressive. Alas, I don't think that I can say that he's Hall of Fame worthy, but kudos to arguably our most famous reclamation project.

DT LeKevin Smith - Yes

He was the backup DT in a 3-4 in his final season, so he really put up 86 games in 11 seasons. That's almost 8 a season, which is really tough to average (especially as a DT) as DL tend to age the poorest out of any position. He formed a tandem with fellow rookie DT Claude Wroten in Detroit, and for seven seasons and a SB victory, they were arguably the best DT duo in the league. Smith made three Pro Bowls, including his rookie season when he tied for the league lead with 14 sacks. Smith was a mainstay on a Lions team and at the time of his departure, he had been the longest-tenured defensive player on the team by three seasons. This probably doesn't scream Hall of Fame for anyone else (maybe Nee), and I don't know if anybody has a magical number for sacks/recognition that they are looking at DL, but Smith has always been underrated, underappreciated, and a personal favorite of mine throughout the league, and with me having a bias toward DL, I am saying yes to his candidacy.
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KCF0107
08/20/20 10:19:01 PM
#36:


MLB Lofa Tatupu - Yes

It is really hard to get Pro Bowl recognition as a LB, so I'm not holding that against him. Tatupu finished his career with a Rookie of the Year, LB of the Year, and Defensive Player of the Year award, tied a B8NFLL record, and he retired 1st or 2nd among active players in most defensive stats at LB. He accomplished virtually all that he could as an individual and is more than worthy of a spot in the Hall of Fame in my eyes.

MLB Gerris Wilkinson - No

Much like Eric Weddle last season, I suspect his career will be a surprise to nearly everyone. The fact that nobody bothered to sign him in S12 and still ended high up there in some stats is surprising to me. However, other than tackles, he didn't light up the stat sheet that much, and while I said it is tough to get Pro Bowl recognition as a LB in the league, he didn't get any recognition whatsoever, and I am pretty confident he was never an award finalist. A good career for a former 3rd round pick who bounced around the league, but he's not a hall of famer in my book.

CB Adam Jones - Yes

CBs are probably the toughest to gauge of how good they are, but with Jones averaging over 2 INTs a season, Pro Bowl nods with both franchises that he played for, and being able to maintain an 80+ rating for his entire career, I feel like that has to count for something. A spot in the Hall of Fame? Maybe not for some people, but I'm willing to set him as the benchmark.

SS Thomas Davis - No

He has some nice counting stats for being able to stay healthy (195 out of 208 games) during his career, but he was named, and ultimately won, to the Breakout Player of the Year award in his final season. He was able to become the first DB to win Defensive Player of the Year, but he was an above-average to good starter for the other 12 seasons of his career. He definitely carried the Falcons secondary the past several seasons, but that simply isn't enough for me.

SS Michael Huff - No

Huff started almost 90 fewer games (thanks to being a career backup in Miami) than Davis, but blew past him in the INT department despite not seeing the field on defense anywhere near as much. Huff was the DB of the Year winner before Davis, so he does have some hardware, but because he played only on certain packages in Miami, his sack, FF, and FR stats just aren't at the levels (even if their rankings are relatively nice) that I am looking for in a candidate.
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KCF0107
08/20/20 10:21:01 PM
#37:


To Do:
- Update team financial sheet and make sure to first convert Bengals and Raiders to user info
- Decide what trade package to accept on behalf of the Jets for LT Jake Long (I plan on making the deadline Sunday)
- Start RFA (probably Monday or so)
- Hall of Fame "ceremony" (probably middle of next week)
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KCF0107
08/21/20 7:25:24 PM
#38:


Bengals and Raiders should have all contract info on the team financial sheet. I will start updating teams that were already under user control soon.
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Eddv
08/21/20 11:42:55 PM
#39:


Wow 15 nominees this time out

I gotta say I am really tempted to pick Hodge, really just for his historical significance

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KCF0107
08/21/20 11:56:11 PM
#40:


I could have done more, but I didn't want to have too many HBs (Lonta Hobbs) or WRs (Martin Nance). There were more OL (Mike Pearson and Jordan Gross) and DL (Gerald Anderson) that I could have done too, but I opted for a 15 person max (like in real life) and more variety.
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ShatteredElysium
08/22/20 9:24:52 AM
#41:


HB Adrian Peterson - Yes

Is this one even debatable?

HB Cornell Brockington - No

We seem to see a lot of HB's at the mid-high 4.0 YPC for their career so to be sub 4 is always going to be a negative when it comes to HoF. Yes, he is an extremely high end pass catching (maybe the best?) but so is Courtney Lewis and his YPC is considerably better. Maybe I've been blessed by having a HB who doesn't fumble often but his fumble figures look high too. It also doesn't look great that he has no post season awards to his name.

HB Courtney Lewis - No

I honestly want to say yes but he just doesn't have enough counting stats due to lack of playing time. I don't think you can be a HoF based on 3 elite seasons and 2 very good seasons shortened seasons. He probably needed another 2 seasons as a starter under his belt to get the yes from me.

WR Mark Clayton - Yes

Like Peterson I don't think this is even debatable.

WR Roddy White - Yes

Like KCF I'm on the fence. I think he's borderline and it really depends on what WR numbers start looking at over the next few seasons worth of retirements. I think in general WR quality has declined since earlier seasons. Maybe now that the higher end WRs are starting to age out of the league that will change but I think White's numbers will hold up for a while because it will take us some time to develop WRs back up again. If he got another shot at this at a later date my vote would be no but since he only gets one shot I'm erring on the side of caution and voting yes.

TE Dominique Byrd - No

I think he's a borderline case similar to White. However unlike White whose numbers will hold up, I think we will get quite a few of the current crop of TEs to surpass his numbers. I feel like if he had a few more TDs to his name I'd be saying yes. It seems the good TEs typically get 4-5+ TDs a season and he's on the low end. I think he's like 50 yards a season and 0.7 ish TDs a season shy of being HoF worthy.

RT George Foster - Yes

His block/sack ratio is really good and so is his career block average. The fact that he also has multiple post season awards to his name just strengthens his case.

RG Brandon Moore - No

I don't think his numbers are going to hold up. His block/sack ratio is certainly above average but we have seen some interior O-linemen put up faur gaudier ratios. Even his block numbers aren't that great. ~40 a season is probably about average. I think it's going to be tough for interior O-linemen to get in because there's going to be people that put up 50-60+ blocks a season, there's going to be people who have like 7-8+ ratios and there's going to be people who play 16-17 seasons so have high career numbers. Moore doesn't tick a single one of those boxes.

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ShatteredElysium
08/22/20 9:47:03 AM
#42:


LE Abdul Hodge - No

No. He just doesn't have the counting stats for it. It's going to be a similar case to Lewis where being very good at the back end of your career just doesn't make up for not playing for a ton of years at the start. I suspect run blockers are always going to struggle to get in even if they play their entire career, nevermind half of it. They are basically going to need a ton of pro bowls to their name.

DT LeKevin Smith - Yes

He seems to be a fringe candidate in a position that will become hard to evalute. Those sack number averages across an entire career are impressive enough for me to say yes though

MLB Lofa Tatupu - Yes

At first glance I was going to say his sack numbers look low (which they do) but his INT / FF / FR numbers make up for it. He seems to be a high end disruptor. I do think a few years down the line, we will see quite a few people surpass his numbers providing they stay healthy but as of right now you can't really argue with where he is against the league and his post season accolades

12. MLB Gerris Wilkinson - No

He just doesn't quite have the numbers for me especially when compared to Lofa Tatupu. I think he's a good MLB but not HoF worthy

CB Adam Jones - Yes

I have no idea how to gauge CBs but comparing against my own ragtag bunch of misfits (who aren't very good), 31 INTs for a career seems really high.

SS Thomas Davis - No

SS'es tend to be stat stuffers and I just don't think he quite has the numbers beyond tackles. Compared to both the SSes I've utilized during my time in the league his Tackles are about the same and his Sacks, FF, FR, INTs are all below what they both on a season average basis. Now granted it's slightly unfair because these guys were starting so they don't have injuries or playing backup to drag those numbers down since they are both over 4 season sample sizes each. However, neither of them are winning awards and I don't think they made the candidates list. So there has to be a lot of better SS'es out there.

SS Michael Huff - No

Similar to the above. I just don't think he has the counting stats in a position that generally puts up impressive numbers.
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MysteriousStan
08/22/20 7:12:12 PM
#43:


1. HB Adrian Peterson No But really it's a "yes" from me
Spite vote for being such a thorn in my side for so long!

2. HB Cornell Brockington - No
KCF said he was a better version of Cedric Benson. Anyone getting compared to Cedric Benson is gonna be an automatic no from me!

3. HB Courtney Lewis Yes
Ive wavered on this a couple times now. While the numbers arent there I dont think well see another running back as efficient as Lewis which to me adds to his case for hall eligibility. While he doesnt have the counting stats, he does have a Pro Bowl to his name and like KCF listed, was nominated for several key awards. And I think he definitely helped elevate Minnesota in the time that he was there finally get to and win the big game.

4. WR Mark Clayton Yes
WR winning an MVP, nothing more needs to be said really.

5. WR Roddy White Yes
As KCF and Shattered said, this is probably borderline but I think once we see all these elite WRs retire, were going to have a sharp drop off in WR production. Weve seen it every couple of years actually, where only a couple receivers manage to break 1000 yards. So Im going to hedge my bets here and say that White is going to be better than some of the younger WRs coming up with a few exceptions.

6. TE Dominique Byrd No
Its going to be really hard for a TE to get into the league cause they really arent a big part of the offense in this particular game. Off the top of my head there is only one TE that has stood out to me as being Hall worthy and Byrd is not the one Im thinking of.

7. RT George Foster - Yes
Allowing six or fewer sacks a season for 13 seasons is absurd.

8. RG Brandon Moore No
KCF and Shattered laid it out pretty well here.

9. LE Abdul Hodge No
REVENGE IS SWEET! Maybe if he had opted to take the money and a starter roll playing for the Titans instead of signing as a backup with the Washington Football Team, he would have had better counting stats! Of course, maybe Hodge knew something we all didnt and that I am cursed to forever be a miserable GM. Its still a no from me though.

10. DT LeKevin Smith

11. MLB Lofa Tatupu Yes
Other than being not a great sack producer, I dunno what more you could ask from him. Easy yes.

12. MLB Gerris Wilkinson No
Hall of Fame name but not a Hall of Fame player.

13. CB Adam Jones - Yes
While those INT numbers are indeed great, those tackle numbers are pretty great as well for a CB. Nearly 19 a season? Seems great to me! And managing to stay above an 80 OVR for nonpowerhouse teams like the Chiefs and Panthers is pretty great too.

14. SS Thomas Davis No
Honestly was going to vote yes for his cumulative totals but his averages were yeah just average. No real dips and having one big high I guess does not do it for me though.

15. SS Michael Huff No
Same situation as Davis.
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profDEADPOOL
08/22/20 9:11:05 PM
#44:


1. HB Adrian Peterson
Yes

2. HB Cornell Brockington
No

3. HB Courtney Lewis
Yes

4. WR Mark Clayton
Yes

5. WR Roddy White
Yes

6. TE Dominique Byrd
No

7. RT George Foster
Yes

8. RG Brandon Moore
No

9. LE Abdul Hodge
No

10. DT LeKevin Smith
Yes

11. MLB Lofa Tatupu
Yes

12. MLB Gerris Wilkinson
No

13. CB Adam Jones
Yes

14. SS Thomas Davis
Yes

15. SS Michael Huff
No

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Ranlom
08/23/20 10:43:35 AM
#45:


1. HB Adrian Peterson - Yes

2. HB Cornell Brockington - No

3. HB Courtney Lewis - Yes

4. WR Mark Clayton - Yes

5. WR Roddy White - Yes

6. TE Dominique Byrd - No

7. RT George Foster - No

8. RG Brandon Moore - No

9. LE Abdul Hodge - No

10. DT LeKevin Smith - Yes

11. MLB Lofa Tatupu - Yes

12. MLB Gerris Wilkinson - No

13. CB Adam Jones - Yes

14. SS Thomas Davis - No

15. SS Michael Huff - No

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MysteriousStan
08/23/20 11:38:16 AM
#46:


Just noticed I forgot to include my vote for Smith. Probably because I was wavering back and forth and was in a little bit of a rush.

I'm voting "Yes" for Smith
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KCF0107
08/23/20 7:53:24 PM
#47:


All team financials are updated, so we will begin Restricted Free Agency tomorrow
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TheSultanOfSlam
08/24/20 4:37:45 AM
#48:


1. HB Adrian Peterson
Yes 100% yes

2. HB Cornell Brockington
No

3. HB Courtney Lewis
Yes

4. WR Mark Clayton
Yes

5. WR Roddy White
Yes

6. TE Dominique Byrd
No

7. RT George Foster
Yes

8. RG Brandon Moore
Yes

9. LE Abdul Hodge
No

10. DT LeKevin Smith
Yes

11. MLB Lofa Tatupu
Yes

12. MLB Gerris Wilkinson
No

13. CB Adam Jones
Yes

14. SS Thomas Davis
Yes

15. SS Michael Huff
Yes

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ShatteredElysium
08/24/20 8:59:40 AM
#49:


Following guys are on the trade block as part of the Steelers perennial battle against the salary cap

QB Gant 80 OVR / 28 YO - He's a scrambling QB who has basically performed to the level you would expect from a scrambling QB of his rating (i.e. inaccurate at 54% completion but a solid runner averaging 8.31 YPC for his career)

DT McCoy 86 OVR / 26 YO - I think he's a pass rusher who doesn't thrive in my defense because I have so many pass rushers already. He was injured last season but in the 3 seasons before that he averaged 32 Tackles / 6 Sacks / 0.67 FF / 0.67 FR. I want to say that was in 2.5 seasons as I believe one of those seasons he was the backup

Whilst not actively shopping him, I could be encouraged to let MLB McClain go if I got a really good offer. He's the highest rated MLB* in the league (93) and is likely on a HoF projectory (617 Tackles, 46 Sacks, 11 FF, 12 FR, 8 INT in 7 seasons). He's 31 so I imagine he's still got 5 seasons in him given that there's 35 YO MLBs in the league. *Highest rated doesn't necessarily mean best, I'm sure there's some MLBs out there that have performed better than him
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ShatteredElysium
08/24/20 12:03:23 PM
#50:


Can't edit my post but just want to correct previous post and say McCoy is 28 not 26. I had 86 from his OVR on my mind when typing it
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