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Mr_Karate_II
09/04/20 9:31:36 PM
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I'm worried about Stranger Things being canceled after season 4 along with Cobra Kai after season 3.

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Zikten
09/04/20 9:32:37 PM
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Apparently thats when shows start getting too expensive . I dont know why but as shows go on they get more expensive
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Turbam
09/04/20 9:34:01 PM
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Zikten posted...
Apparently thats when shows start getting too expensive . I dont know why but as shows go on they get more expensive
IIRCA, after the third season everyone automatically gets an increase in pay

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JuanCarlos1
09/04/20 9:34:27 PM
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They lose novelty as well. Theres like a rule that shows shouldnt go last the 7th season cause they star to overstay their welcome.

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iPhone_7
09/04/20 9:34:33 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
How many shows stay decent after 5 seasons?
this right here

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BuckVanHammer
09/04/20 9:34:55 PM
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netflix just has a throw a ton out their and see what sticks philosophy it seems.

id say their track record with canceling isnt that bad tho.

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Mr_Karate_II
09/04/20 9:34:58 PM
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If they cancel Stranger Things after season 4 or Cobra Kai after season 3, I'm done with Netflix. Bad enough they canceled Fuller House and The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina already, i swear as soon as a show gets popular they cancel it.

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Turbam
09/04/20 9:35:38 PM
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Sabrina wasn't cancelled, it ended.

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VonOrdelia
09/04/20 9:35:54 PM
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Netflix only renews what brings in new customers. They don't care about what's popular with current customers

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Vampire_Wreath
09/04/20 9:36:42 PM
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Shows dip in quality and viewership the longer it has been going more often than not. Why keep it on when they can have a new hit show that could possibly be the next American Idol

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StarReaper13
09/04/20 9:37:14 PM
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I'm still mad about them canceling I Am Not Okay with This

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GeneralKenobi85
09/04/20 9:38:39 PM
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I don't know if I want Stranger Things to go longer than 5 seasons anyway.

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Vicious_Dios
09/04/20 9:40:26 PM
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StarReaper13 posted...
I'm still mad about them canceling I Am Not Okay with This

Never heard of it. What's it about? Legit curious.

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VonOrdelia
09/04/20 9:41:45 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Never heard of it. What's it about? Legit curious.
Girl with superpowers.

Ends on a massive cliffhanger so I wouldn't bother.

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Vicious_Dios
09/04/20 9:44:30 PM
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Ah, I see.

I can handle cliffhangers (I survived Firefly as a kid), but that description already doesn't sound like my cup of booze.

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BLAKUboy
09/04/20 9:45:11 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
Bad enough they canceled Fuller House and The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina already
You clearly have no idea what cancelled means.

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MrMallard
09/04/20 9:48:06 PM
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They're in the business of making bingeable content. Apparently 5 seasons is the perfect cutoff point because people lose interest beyond that point, so they have a policy of making shorter shows to hold people's attentions.

Doesn't matter if the creators have more stories to tell, like with Bojack Horseman.

Also, season four is definitely going to be the last season of Stranger Things.

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TheRealDill2022
09/04/20 9:50:46 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
How many shows stay decent after 5 seasons?

Supernatural got better after that point
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Orlando_Jordan
09/04/20 9:51:56 PM
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Buffy the Vampire Slayer got real bad near the end. Sometimes, you just have to let a show end on a high note instead of becoming like Buffy.

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SolidShadow3
09/04/20 10:08:04 PM
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I more worried about Witcher. something tells me it's only going to get 2 seasons and imma be butthurt about it for at least a week.

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Teh_Dr_Phil
09/04/20 10:09:24 PM
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Stranger Things has to end after the next season unless they replace the cast. The kids are getting too old and the novelty is already starting to wear off tbh

Im just glad Warrior Nun is getting a second season.

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Pyro_NinjaX
09/04/20 10:10:12 PM
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every show should end after one season
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Hexenherz
09/04/20 10:10:42 PM
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SolidShadow3 posted...
I more worried about Witcher. something tells me it's only going to get 2 seasons and imma be butthurt about it for at least a week.
I can't imagine it going on for more than three seasons anyway considering the book series isn't super long.

I do wish there'd be more seasons of Ultimate Beastmaster or Hyperdrive. As shitty as I find most Netflix original series to be, they do a really good job making interesting competition shows and find a good balance between giving you good background and insight into the individuals' lives and the action in the show itself.

I haven't even started Season 3 of Stranger Things, the second season was cool and you could tell they had a bigger budget since there were more than just two and a half sets for every scene but there was still too much build up imo and not enough pay off in S2.

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Junkratprime03
09/04/20 10:10:48 PM
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Bad_Mojo
09/04/20 10:16:22 PM
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It's because of money. Netflix doesn't want to pay more, but they wouldn't have to pay more if the actors were not greedy about getting more money.

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NeoBowser
09/04/20 10:16:45 PM
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unpopular opinion and i even enjoy the series but i think its a bit overrated. the setting and aesthetics are on point but the plot is super boring esp beyond the first season. i think this show would end well after s4.

Teh_Dr_Phil posted...


Im just glad Warrior Nun is getting a second season.

is it? im so happy to hear that there is something interesting going for it.

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008Zulu
09/04/20 10:22:01 PM
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Netflix isn't about grinding out a series pointlessly for decades. Tell a good story, and move on to the next project.

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mcpwnia
09/04/20 10:22:35 PM
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bevan306
09/04/20 10:23:35 PM
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can't think of any netflix original that needs to go for more than 4 or 5 seasons. The oa has been their best and they canceled that after 2

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creativerealms
09/04/20 10:27:25 PM
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They are throwing everything at the wall and sees what sticks. If it's a success they renew it, once it dips in popularity or does not catch on, it's gone.

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XxKrebsxX
09/04/20 10:35:38 PM
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I hope the Last Kingdom isn't cancelled.
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Laserion
09/04/20 10:41:52 PM
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Some things are best left short. When you try to extended them, you start making up crap that crapifies the show.
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DarthAragorn
09/04/20 10:45:38 PM
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Teh_Dr_Phil posted...
Im just glad Warrior Nun is getting a second season.

I'm excited for that.

Hope it's less moping and more action though
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lilORANG
09/04/20 10:48:48 PM
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Meanwhile, shows that are perfectly set up to be 3 seasons like House of Cards got excruciatingly dragged out
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Mr_Karate_II
09/04/20 10:56:18 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
You clearly have no idea what cancelled means.
Chilling Adventures of Sabrina was canceled

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Lordgold666
09/04/20 11:37:33 PM
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They better put out part 5 n 6 of money heist

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Poop2
09/04/20 11:39:25 PM
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netflix said they will be doing this years ago. its nothing new.

shows that kill it will obviously get more courtesy, but they said most shows will get 3 seasons max.

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Compsognathus
09/06/20 10:31:03 AM
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Netflix contracts are structured fundamentally different than broadcast or even cable TV contracts that are usually structured around seven seasons. After the seventh season, contract renewals happen and shows become much more expensive. If the show is doing well that's not a big deal and they'll pay everyone. If it isn't they often get canceled at this point.

Netflix structures their contracts around three seasons. Those contracts typically pay out more per season than a seven season contract and offer a nice bit of flexibility for the actors who might not want to potentially lock themselves into seven years of their career and get into a Fresh Off the Boat situation, where they are turning down better deals because of a TV contract. This lets Netflix get some big names on their shows.

The other big factor, and why Netflix rarely renews shows after the initial contract runs out, is the nature of subscribership. Essentially more people sign up or renew for new shows. By season three you might be keeping around some of your initial people who signed up for the show, but you aren't getting any major new sign-ups or resubscribers for the third season of a show, much less four or five.

You'll notice the few shows that make it much past season 3 are either smash hits, extremely cheap, or critical darlings. There are very few long-term journeyman shows.

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Balrog0
09/06/20 10:36:09 AM
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They don't need to get enough episodes to get to syndication any more

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Lyrica
09/06/20 10:41:03 AM
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Teh_Dr_Phil posted...
Stranger Things has to end after the next season unless they replace the cast. The kids are getting too old and the novelty is already starting to wear off tbh

Im just glad Warrior Nun is getting a second season.
I don't mind if Stranger Things ends because the kids are getting older. That makes sense. Just please, I hope they don't kill off any major characters for the sake of shock value. This is what shows do nowadays and Stranger Things has remained good without resorting to that (we all know Hop is alive).
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IShall_Run_Amok
09/06/20 10:48:58 AM
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Hopefully Dark Crystal makes it to 4 or 5 seasons.

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MailYourFission
09/06/20 10:51:13 AM
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Most of these series only have a season or two worth of compelling narrative, so I don't particularly mind.

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Jonny2284
09/06/20 10:53:52 AM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Hopefully Dark Crystal makes it to 4 or 5 seasons.

It's been over a year since the first season and we don't even have a hint of a renewal. I wouldn't count on it.
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Taharqa_
09/06/20 10:56:35 AM
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They throw things at the wall to see what sticks but mostly I thinks it's because these bigger shows become more expensive. I liked Marco Polo but I think it costed like 9 million per episode.

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Balrog0
09/06/20 11:00:16 AM
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Jonny2284 posted...
It's been over a year since the first season and we don't even have a hint of a renewal. I wouldn't count on it.

Pretty sure next season is scheduled for next year

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Jonny2284
09/06/20 11:04:41 AM
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Source me on that. Please. Because I really want more but all I can find is a thousand and one articles that take a statement made September last year about having a concrete document for season 2 if they got renewed and turning that into a confirmation.

Near as I can see there isn't a concrete renewal, there isn't a release date. There's just nothing.
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dummy420
09/06/20 11:25:49 AM
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I'm ok with it being 3 or 4 seasons if they know it and have a planned end. I think stranger things always had a planned end after 4 or 5 seasons. But they seemed to go really hard with this planned end in the recent years without telling the showrunners. I'm still salty about Santa Clarita Diet ending on a cliffhanger.

Being so hard set on this mindset really turns people off when you see a show you loved cancelled. I dont even want to get into a new show that I will like but know can get canceled because they just feel like it.

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Compsognathus
09/06/20 11:53:04 AM
#49:


dummy420 posted...
I'm ok with it being 3 or 4 seasons if they know it and have a planned end. I think stranger things always had a planned end after 4 or 5 seasons. But they seemed to go really hard with this planned end in the recent years without telling the showrunners. I'm still salty about Santa Clarita Diet ending on a cliffhanger.

Being so hard set on this mindset really turns people off when you see a show you loved cancelled. I dont even want to get into a new show that I will like but know can get canceled because they just feel like it.
To a certain degree I feel like show runners need to know what they have gotten into though. Netflix isn't operating in the shadows here. Everyone has a good idea how they operate. If you are on a third season, try to avoid cliff-hangers.

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Jiggy101011
09/06/20 12:09:40 PM
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I honestly don't know why people want shows to keep going, thats what makes shows like Dark so good

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