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DeadBankerDream
12/12/20 10:20:20 AM
#251:


DepreceV2 posted...
I'm assuming I don't NEED to do the Blue Lion and Golden Deer path to get a good sense of the full story, right?

You kind of do.

Again, spoiler ahoy territory. Others might disagree that you need to do all of them, for various reasons.

I think you do, though. Except maybe the secondary black eagles route, which is kind of superfluous.
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DeadBankerDream
12/12/20 10:23:33 AM
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Or more specifically, I think you need to do Golden Deer for a full story overview. Blue Lions isn't exactly important for the story itself, sort of, but it gives momentous context to the conflict at the heart of the game that you don't get in the other routes.
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DepreceV2
12/12/20 10:33:43 AM
#253:


DeadBankerDream posted...
Or more specifically, I think you need to do Golden Deer for a full story overview. Blue Lions isn't exactly important for the story itself, sort of, but it gives momentous context to the conflict at the heart of the game that you don't get in the other routes.

OK. Good to know. How long are these paths chapter wise too? I feel like this path is getting relatively close to finishing. Like 70% done. Yet its only Chapter 14. I feel, like time is running out when other Fire Emblems seemed to average 25-30 chapters

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DeadBankerDream
12/12/20 10:36:50 AM
#254:


Black Eagles is significantly shorter than the other paths. The others are around the 22-23 chapters mark. There's some differences in numbers between them, but it's around that.
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DepreceV2
12/12/20 11:57:39 AM
#255:


DeadBankerDream posted...
Black Eagles is significantly shorter than the other paths. The others are around the 22-23 chapters mark. There's some differences in numbers between them, but it's around that.

So the game is overall shorter. I guess thats ok since the other paths seem unique

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Compsognathus
12/12/20 12:13:22 PM
#256:


DepreceV2 posted...
So the game is overall shorter. I guess thats ok since the other paths seem unique
Generally yes. That being said, Golden Deer and the Church Route are extremely similar. If you want to play all routes I would space those playthroughs out.

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DeadBankerDream
12/12/20 12:22:00 PM
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In regards to that comment, I'd also say play Golden Deer before the Church route. Because yes, they are very similar, but Golden Deer just does it better. If you play the lesser version first, you'd likely be more annoyed having to re-tread some of the stuff rather than being engaged.

Also, Golden Deer has Hilda by default so its the best route.
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AvlButtslam
12/12/20 2:24:09 PM
#258:


What do the 3 stars in the far right column next to a skill bar mean?

DeadBankerDream posted...
Also, Golden Deer has Hilda by default so its the best route.


Yeah Hilda is probably my favorite character from Golden Deer. She's the Cordelia Chase of the house.
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DepreceV2
12/12/20 2:30:01 PM
#259:


AvlButtslam posted...
What do the 3 stars in the far right column next to a skill bar mean?

Yeah Hilda is probably my favorite character from Golden Deer. She's the Cordelia Chase of the house.

Its the health of your Gambit army? I think?


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Shadow20201
12/12/20 2:59:39 PM
#260:


AvlButtslam posted...
What do the 3 stars in the far right column next to a skill bar mean?
Hidden potential. Its a skill they're weak at to start, but if you personally tutor them enough times it becomes a strength and gives an extra skill related to it.

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AvlButtslam
12/12/20 3:04:58 PM
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Ah interesting, thanks for clarifying.
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DepreceV2
12/12/20 3:06:52 PM
#262:


Shadow20201 posted...
Hidden potential. Its a skill they're weak at to start, but if you personally tutor them enough times it becomes a strength and gives an extra skill related to it.

Oh NOW I know what you are talking about! I didnt know that either

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DeadBankerDream
12/12/20 3:08:29 PM
#263:


DepreceV2 posted...


Oh NOW I know what you are talking about! I didnt know that either

...You unlocked Dorothea's faith talent, right? >_>
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DepreceV2
12/12/20 3:10:19 PM
#264:


DeadBankerDream posted...
...You unlocked Dorothea's faith talent, right? >_>

Uhh... no... I didnt. She is a Warlock without any healing spells lmao

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DeadBankerDream
12/12/20 3:11:05 PM
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Oh boy.
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DepreceV2
12/12/20 3:12:40 PM
#266:


DeadBankerDream posted...
Oh boy.

She didnt seem like the type to be into Faith lol. So I didnt. I thought she always sang in the church because she loves singing. Not because of her faith lmao.

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dave_is_slick
12/12/20 10:09:30 PM
#267:


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She is a Warlock without any healing spells lmao
Why would you ever have a mage with no healing...

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Tyranthraxus
12/12/20 10:14:40 PM
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You have to unlock her faith to make her a Gremory which is OP.

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DeadBankerDream
12/12/20 10:15:14 PM
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Because it's his first time and he's going in blind.

In the future, all magic units should have some basic healing. Even Hubert who has a permanent weakness in faith should at least level it up enough to get the basic Heal spell.

It's just how the magic system works in Three Houses that there's no reason not to have a magic unit focus on both Reason and Faith. Except maybe a few specific units. Manuela has a weakness in reason and I think she only gets like 3 spells from grinding it up, so maybe her? I've only used her in one playthrough, though so I dunno. Seems like it was a waste beyond the threshold for class unlocks.
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AvlButtslam
12/12/20 10:27:58 PM
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Are the rare monster aux battles worth doing?
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dave_is_slick
12/12/20 10:33:33 PM
#271:


DeadBankerDream posted...
Because it's his first time and he's going in blind.
Okay? All the requirements for promotions are listed right there, the game tells you about the hidden potential.

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Tyranthraxus
12/12/20 10:34:27 PM
#272:


AvlButtslam posted...
Are the rare monster aux battles worth doing?

Yes yes yes holy shit yes but you NEED to make sure you shatter them and get the item.

They have extremely powerful equipment drops and rare ores.

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DeadBankerDream
12/12/20 10:36:12 PM
#273:


I hate aux battles with a passion in Fire Emblem. Their main purpose is to overlevel you with low quality content.
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DepreceV2
12/12/20 10:37:00 PM
#274:


DeadBankerDream posted...
Because it's his first time and he's going in blind.

In the future, all magic units should have some basic healing. Even Hubert who has a permanent weakness in faith should at least level it up enough to get the basic Heal spell.

It's just how the magic system works in Three Houses that there's no reason not to have a magic unit focus on both Reason and Faith. Except maybe a few specific units. Manuela has a weakness in reason and I think she only gets like 3 spells from grinding it up, so maybe her? I've only used her in one playthrough, though so I dunno. Seems like it was a waste beyond the threshold for class unlocks.

So my only healer right now is Linhardt. Byleth will be my other healer once I max out the Hero class then reclass to that unique class they gave me after the Time Skip. To be honest... having all the magic users being able to heal seems... cheesy... What Fire Emblem before let you have an insane amount of healers like that? Seems beyond broken and can make the game a joke.

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Compsognathus
12/13/20 1:56:21 AM
#275:


DepreceV2 posted...
So my only healer right now is Linhardt. Byleth will be my other healer once I max out the Hero class then reclass to that unique class they gave me after the Time Skip. To be honest... having all the magic users being able to heal seems... cheesy... What Fire Emblem before let you have an insane amount of healers like that? Seems beyond broken and can make the game a joke.
Honestly, most of them once your units promote. I don't think there was a promoted magic class in the GBA games that couldn't use staffs. Same with the Tellius ones.

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DepreceV2
12/13/20 10:08:16 AM
#276:


Compsognathus posted...
Honestly, most of them once your units promote. I don't think there was a promoted magic class in the GBA games that couldn't use staffs. Same with the Tellius ones.

True but it looks like everyone can use staffs in this game though correct? That is what makes it cheesy. Unless Im misunderstanding. Since everyone seems to be able to use everything.

EDIT: Actually, Im not sure about if everyone can heal but you do make a good point that everyone magic user could heal before. It just seems like I can go down a path to make everyone be able to heal which seems weird

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DeadBankerDream
12/13/20 10:13:43 AM
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Most physically-focused classes can't use magic. I think the only ones that can are Enlightened One, Commoner/Noble, Mortal Savant, Trickster (DLC), War Cleric (DLC) and Dancer if you count that as physical.

So it's not like you can just teach healing to the units you plan to make a wyvern lord or bow knight, or whatever and have everyone being able to heal.
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DepreceV2
12/14/20 1:35:59 PM
#278:


Question

Does Claude every return after you let him live? In fact, does he backstab you later? It seems that giving the option to kill or let him go could possibly come back to bite me. I mean... there has to be a benefit in killing someone who has the option to kill them right?

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DepreceV2
12/14/20 7:11:55 PM
#279:


Is there a special ending for this game if you save/spare the lives of the max amount of students possible?

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DeadBankerDream
12/14/20 7:12:43 PM
#280:


No.

Also, dunno about Claude, though I assume not.
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DepreceV2
12/14/20 11:52:51 PM
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On the Insurmountable side mission, is there a point when reinforcements stop spawning? Im on turn 14 defending the gate and reinforcements are still respawning. Im ok with all the experience but respawns never stop Ill have to change my strategy and go on the offensive.

Im bookmarking the game right now. Ill get back on it tomorrow

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DeadBankerDream
12/15/20 3:05:28 AM
#282:


Nope, that mission has infinitely spawning reinforcement. But also when missions have reinforcements that respawn indefinitely they have diminishing exp yields until you just get 1 class exp (even with a knowledge gem equipped, which should usually give you 4), 1 weapon/authority exp and pitiful leveling exp even for killing them.
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DepreceV2
12/15/20 8:01:36 AM
#283:


DeadBankerDream posted...
Nope, that mission has infinitely spawning reinforcement. But also when missions have reinforcements that respawn indefinitely they have diminishing exp yields until you just get 1 class exp (even with a knowledge gem equipped, which should usually give you 4), 1 weapon/authority exp and pitiful leveling exp even for killing them.

OK thanks. Kinda weird that the game wants you to defend an area but throw infinite waves of enemies at you to get you to move. The game even goes out its way to tell you to use your structures to set up a perimeter strategically just for it to not be the correct strategy


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DeadBankerDream
12/15/20 8:05:08 AM
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It's a bad mission.
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NeonOctopus
12/15/20 8:05:31 AM
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idk how far you are, but fuck Petra. Best girl.

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AvlButtslam
12/15/20 8:13:02 AM
#286:


I just finished the mission post time skip I think like chapter 17 of Golden Deer where you reunite in battle with Edelgard and Demitri . Feels bad having to slaughter everybody. Maybe it'll get answered in the Blue Lion playthrough but idk what reason D had to not join up with Claude. I didn't like that that didn't happen.
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DeadBankerDream
12/15/20 8:43:00 AM
#287:


Guys, I know this is off topic, but plz.

My Ferdinand is level 10.

He has 9 strength.

His base strength is 8 at level 1.

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Compsognathus
12/15/20 7:50:42 PM
#288:


DeadBankerDream posted...
Guys, I know this is off topic, but plz.

My Ferdinand is level 10.

He has 9 strength.

His base strength is 8 at level 1.

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Oh wow... at least he has easy access to Wyvern Rider to fix him.

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AvlButtslam
12/15/20 7:55:58 PM
#289:


Lol wtf I just leveled up and didn't gain a single state increase, I didn't even know that was possible.
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DeadBankerDream
12/15/20 7:58:57 PM
#290:


I think the student/Byleth characters get a minimum of 2 stat ups per level, but faculty members can get 0 stat ups.
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DepreceV2
12/15/20 8:13:55 PM
#291:


AvlButtslam posted...
Lol wtf I just leveled up and didn't gain a single state increase, I didn't even know that was possible.

I thought they stopped this garbage after FE6 lol

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dave_is_slick
12/15/20 9:15:31 PM
#292:


NeonOctopus posted...
idk how far you are, but fuck Petra. Best girl.
That's not how you spell Dorothea.

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DepreceV2
12/15/20 10:02:02 PM
#293:


dave_is_slick posted...
That's not how you spell Dorothea.

Dorothea did grow on me tremendously. She had great character... development? Im not sure if that is the right term. I think it was more like I misunderstood her. I thought she was just the typical fake nice girl who used her looks to get ahead in life with no effort. The game even reinforced that early on with how she had a different man a different day of the week.

Not only was I wrong about everything but she also was a hard worker as well. Completely proved me wrong

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dave_is_slick
12/16/20 9:19:42 PM
#294:


DepreceV2 posted...
Dorothea did grow on me tremendously. She had great character... development? Im not sure if that is the right term. I think it was more like I misunderstood her. I thought she was just the typical fake nice girl who used her looks to get ahead in life with no effort. The game even reinforced that early on with how she had a different man a different day of the week.

Not only was I wrong about everything but she also was a hard worker as well. Completely proved me wrong
Same, but I was liking her for the boobs at first, i can't lie. And then her backstory and her relationship to Ferdinand were revealed. I legit think she's best girl now. Hell, the war affected her HARD. Pre-war one of her win quotes is something like "Every rose has it's thorn!" but during the war that changes to "Only thorns left on this rose."

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AvlButtslam
12/17/20 9:55:48 PM
#295:


Just finished the Golden Deer path, first playthrough. Took me about 90 hours, sheesh. The last mission was way harder than the rest of the game. Ended up marrying Hilda. Should have picked Alois to see what the male-male ending was like.

Best fighter was Leonie, who I had totally written off at the start but turned into a freakin' monster by the end.
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DeadBankerDream
12/18/20 3:49:50 AM
#296:


Yeah, Golden Deer final mission is probably the hardest on normal/hard. Grats on finishing. Now to do all the other routes. Right now.
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Gheb
12/18/20 10:00:00 AM
#297:


AvlButtslam posted...
Just finished the Golden Deer path, first playthrough. Took me about 90 hours, sheesh. The last mission was way harder than the rest of the game. Ended up marrying Hilda. Should have picked Alois to see what the male-male ending was like.

Best fighter was Leonie, who I had totally written off at the start but turned into a freakin' monster by the end.
Leonie is probably the best archer in the game, is stupidly fast, and has good bulk, and great proficiencies.

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DepreceV2
12/18/20 10:08:05 AM
#298:


Question, if I promote Bernadetta to a Bow Knight, does she still keep all of her Combat Arts even though it is more like a lateral move than a pure promotion? I was wondering why people don't Snipers aren't that good in this game when they feel really strong. However, if they keep all the Combat Arts from the Sniper after becoming a Bow Knight then I can see Snipers just being inferior Bow Knights. It's kinda weird to balance like that. If they removed dismount and didn't let you keep everything from one class to the other then I think the game would be balanced a lot better IMO. You won't see Flyers and Horseback as the best classes by default.

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Tmaster148
12/18/20 10:12:16 AM
#299:


If you are talking about Hunter's Volley, that's a Sniper only combat art.

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DepreceV2
12/18/20 10:14:02 AM
#300:


One more thing, I'm learning thorough all the A Supports from Ferdinand that he is lowkey a player isn't he? He is making all the girls blush and want him in every A support LMAO

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