Current Events > Price to length ratio is one of the best measurements for video games.

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It's very simple.

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It's very bad.
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For the most part. But considering the highest i spent black friday was $30 for yakuza collection and $20 for Persona 5 Royal....

Yeah youll get your times worth of money on those...

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Not really.

Quality is more important than quantity.

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So someone needs to make an 8 bit game that takes 7 full years to beat for $1 and it would be the greatest game of all time

It is when you're on a budget.

It was VERY important to me as a kid in the 90s and early 00s. If I got one or two new games a year and it lasted me 8 hours I'd be distraught.

These days I don't mind a 6 hour game, though I almost never pay more than $20 or $30. I want it to be the right length for the game. Portal 1 is a fantastic example. Prefect length to me. Also got it apart of the Orange Box, so great value.

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That's the exact sentiment that's leading to the decline of video games. Devs are padding their games with arbitrary, uninteresting bullshit just to hit some arbitrary hour target. It's the same with size of open world games. I don't want a gigantic world if it's like FF15. Give me a solid 10 hour game over some boring ass 40 hour game any day of the week; in one I'm spending $80 to have 10 hours of good time, and the other I'm wasting $80 and 40 hours of my life.

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agreed

games that heavily advertise having 150+ hours of content are almost never worth buying

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Damn_Underscore posted...

Not really.

Quality is more important than quantity.

For video games, I'd say they're equally important.

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Highly disagree tbh. If I had a very limited budget and needed games that would last 100 hours then maybe.

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Damn_Underscore posted...

Not really.

Quality is more important than quantity.

this. 10 hours of obra dinn >>>>>>>>> 1000 hours shitty ubisoft collect-athon

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apolloooo posted...

this. 10 hours of obra dinn >>>>>>>>> 1000 hours shitty ubisoft collect-athon

God I loved Return of the Obra Dinn. Spent 2 days, 1 weekend just balls deep in that game and it's one of the most fondly remembered games of the past generation to me.

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Raikuro posted...

So someone needs to make an 8 bit game that takes 7 full years to beat for $1 and it would be the greatest game of all time

Check out The Longing.

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Idgaf as long as the game's good. Video games are already pretty damn cheap per hour on average compared to a lot of other hobbies. Even back when I was on a tighter budget, I'd just replay the crap out of shorter games. That's how I got into speed running Metroid and classic RE games.

This has always been a consideration in gaming, but it's interesting to see how it's changed over the years. In NES days they made games 'nes' hard to justify the price even though the game is only 30 minutes long. I don't game enough with modern popular games to know how it works now, but for a while the modern version of that was that 'radiant quest' stuff

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imagine spending 60 bucks on a game you knock out in a weekend that you'll never play again and be like "it was quality, that's what matters"

a 60 dollar piece of lobster is quality too, but it's gone when it's gone

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viewmaster_pi posted...

imagine spending 60 bucks on a game you knock out in a weekend that you'll never play again and be like "it was quality, that's what matters"

a 60 dollar piece of lobster is quality too, but it's gone when it's gone

I mean ... What is this supposed to be arguing?

I'll pay for lobster and I'll pay for oatmeal. I don't expect the same thing from them.

i won't buy lobster I don't like it

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TC I hope you drown in a pile of ubisoft open-world games

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Balrog0 posted...

I mean ... What is this supposed to be arguing?

I'll pay for lobster and I'll pay for oatmeal. I don't expect the same thing from them.

i won't buy lobster I don't like it

it's arguing that something "good" isn't worth its price if it comes and goes too fast

i do like lobster, though. what i don't like are bloated "technically" advanced linear 3rd person movies. not every game needs to be 100+ hours, but the 10-20 mark is a joke

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Depends on the genre. An average player would probably take 10-15 hours to get their first successful run in one step from Eden, but that is just a starting point for unlocking most of the content.

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It's a good measurement in the sense that it can be objectively measured and shared

...that's about it, it doesn't really have any actual relationship with the quality of a game

A game is only as long as it's able to hold my interest as far as I'm concerned.

If it's too crappy to be worth playing more than an hour, the game is effectively an hour long of crappiness.

I'd rather have a good game that's short. If I can find a good game that's long, that's even better. But length-to-price isn't the ultimate metric. I value my time

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I'm usually broke so personally I'd rather play an above average game that's long than a great game that's only a few hours.

DeadBankerDream posted...

It's very bad.

sutree posted...

TC I hope you drown in a pile of ubisoft open-world games

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LoI I avoid Assassin's Creed.

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SrRd_RacinG posted...

LoI I avoid Assassin's Creed.

exactly the point

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Bump

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SrRd_RacinG posted...

LoI I avoid Assassin's Creed.

By your logic assassins creed odyssey should be the greatest game of all time

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Romulox28 posted...

By your logic assassins creed odyssey should be the greatest game of all time

Absolutely, if you like Assassin's Creed.

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Nah

10-15 hours is fine for most games, and reasonably $60 isnt even an outrageous ask

what does $60 get you, in other forms of entertainment?

how many hours of entertainment do you get when you spend $10-15 to see a movie at the theater, or go to a museum or zoo? $60 is a day at an amusement park, or dinner at a decent restaurant. As for hobbies $60 wont even buy you much in the way of, say, a LEGO kit. You cant buy a decent musical instrument for that price, or itll buy you maybe 3-4 records.

I get if you want to play a ton of games it adds up, but I dont expect 100 hours of entertainment from any other $60 purchase and games are no different

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Ive probably spent like $1000 on WoW but Ive put over 15000 hours into it

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TheGoldenEel posted...

As for hobbies $60 wont even buy you much in the way of, say, a LEGO kit.

As someone with a massive Lego collection, this is absolutely true. A $60 set will typically have 500-700 pieces, which can be assembled in an hour and a half if you take it slow. Honestly, of my four major hobbies (video games, Lego, woodworking, and writing) games are by far the cheapest except for writing, which is essentially free.

GameGodOfAll posted...

It is when you're on a budget.

It was VERY important to me as a kid in the 90s and early 00s. If I got one or two new games a year and it lasted me 8 hours I'd be distraught.

These days I don't mind a 6 hour game, though I almost never pay more than $20 or $30. I want it to be the right length for the game. Portal 1 is a fantastic example. Prefect length to me. Also got it apart of the Orange Box, so great value.

this, except now I don't mind paying full price for short games. I have a lot more money to spend on games, than time to play them.

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