Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 379: Kabulshit

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As far as the coin thing goes, I think it would make a lot more sense to mint a million $1 million coins then a single $1 trillion coin. Or even better, mint a billion $1,000 coins and actually circulate them.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

ok. good move by trump, though i'm not exactly sure why four years was apparently not long enough to get the troops out of there.

Because Trump is lazy and his military leaders didn't want the US to leave. Plus it probably wasn't that high on his priority list.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

ok. good move by trump, though i'm not exactly sure why four years was apparently not long enough to get the troops out of there.

He had to release more Taliban prisoners first.

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Dancedreamer posted...

He had to release more Taliban prisoners first.

Including the guy who is now in charge.

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Oh yeah, the coin discourse is back. Gotta love it.

https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1441005132641095680?s=19

Okay, now I really believe time is a flat circle. The best part of the debt ceiling news cycle has returned.

Getting rid of the debt ceiling in its entirety is what should be done given that Congress authorized all the spending in the first place (i.e. it's not that the hypothetical infrastructure bills would bring us over or anything it's the already existing and passed spending that is) but #MintTheCoin is my "favorite" solution other than that for how silly the loophole is... only that would absolve Congress of its responsibility here and I would hate that.

Mr Lasastryke posted...

ok. good move by trump, though i'm not exactly sure why four years was apparently not long enough to get the troops out of there.

Because he didn't really care and it was more of a last minute 2020 campaign stunt. Like, the actual negotitations didn't even include the Afghan government IIRC. It was solely between the Trump Administration and the Taliban and they ended up releasing a bunch of Taliban prisoners, including - as mentioned - the guy now in charge over there.

Honestly the fact that it was scheduled for May 2021 originally - and thus his hypothetical second term - raises questions for me too. It probably would have been a bigger shitshow under his watch than it was under Biden's because he would give absolutely zero shits about anyone's safety over there... but if not for his narcissism and inability to even acknowledge a reality in which he lost I'd wonder if the timnig was intentional to drop a shitshow on Biden in the event that he did lose.

IIRC he threw a tantrum after he lost and ordered the military to basically withdraw from everywhere (including Germany, etc.) immediately in January but they basically ignored the order (which, in a vacuum is concerning, but probably the right call in this specific situation)

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https://twitter.com/kylekulinski/status/1440986575056351234?s=21

Tulsi (and the Biden administration tbh) did cringe

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Tulsi has been full mask off bigoted loon recently but I've refrained from posting about her anymore to show I have restraint

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Ill bite the bullet and post about her crazy ass as penance for defending her before.

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You're a good man, Tony.

Don't let heated mid-debate SEP ever tell you otherwise.

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https://twitter.com/jasonscampbell/status/1441112075351199744?s=21

Quiet part out loud

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So there was a mass shooting today and it is already bottom of the page news.

It is a bit disgusting to think how numb we are to these now.

Does any other country have the ridiculous notion of a debt ceiling?

Its basically like rigging a nuclear bomb to the world economy with a button that temporarily diffuses it that must be pressed every 108 minutes like in the hatch from Lost

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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1441179571093524483?s=21

lol incredible

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

https://twitter.com/kylekulinski/status/1440986575056351234?s=21

Tulsi (and the Biden administration tbh) did cringe

she was also on Tucker discussing the importance of drone striking Islamists the other day

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Does any other country have the ridiculous notion of a debt ceiling?

Its basically like rigging a nuclear bomb to the world economy with a button that temporarily diffuses it that must be pressed every 108 minutes like in the hatch from Lost

The Wikipedia page on this is oddly blank. But theres a common number of 7 showing up on various articles.

My guess is that it isn't that common.

Mind you calling it a debt ceiling is misleading as the money is already spent. Not increasing it is basically just having a credit card with no limit and then trying not to pay it. Despite having no monetary reason for doing it.

https://twitter.com/vicenews/status/1441040236109254658?s=21

In the end, it was grandpa tier Facebook memes that killed the GND.

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The Arizona audit by the CYBER NINJAS is finally finished

They found that Biden actually won by more than originally reported

https://arizonaagenda.substack.com/p/we-got-the-senate-audit-report

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That's the funniest part, really.

But this really shouldn't be treated with any seriousness. I remember earlier in the process when they came out and said there were like 10,000 fraudulent votes and the state had to explain to them that they were literally reading the data wrong or some such (IIRC the data they were working with to make that claim didn't cover the full range of days of early voting or something - I know one of the AZ Election Data guys had already noticed and explained the exact error they had made almost instantly) and they were super passive aggressive in acknowledging their mistake.

But of course the right wing conspiracy nuts had already run out and screamed the original claim everywhere by then and were predictably silent when the self-inflicted error was acknowledged.

oh and also i think the state has to trash every part of the election infrastructure these guys got their hands on because the fact that they were just letting people with no experience or credentials handle senstive election equipment means they could no longer be sure it wasn't compromised so that'll come at taxpayer expense of course

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I eagerly anticipate the spin

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It'll just be crickets or "When they made that (false) claim about extra votes they got too close to the TRUTH and the DEEP STATE got to them and made them say it was a mistake and from there they were just controlled opposition designed to gaslight us about what we all KNOW to be the case!!!! #AuditTheAudit"

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Jakyl25 posted...

The Arizona audit by the CYBER NINJAS is finally finished

They found that Biden actually won by more than originally reported

https://arizonaagenda.substack.com/p/we-got-the-senate-audit-report

Lol really?

I'm in Arizona right now and the local news has been teasing it like they uncovered some big secret.

The alt right news is about "missing ballots" and "ghost ballots" and "voter registration not matching social security database"

There are 3 easily debunked stories making the rounds right now and some people have fully bought into them.

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They're gonna say they found potential for fraud and thus must surge forward with voting regulation changes or something dumb.

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StealThisSheen posted...

They're gonna say they found potential for fraud and thus must surge forward with voting regulation changes or something dumb.

Yup, always remember that the people in charge of the grift don't really believe Biden lost or that they'll find evidence of fraud. It was always about "finding" potential avenues they believe could be used for fraud (never mind the fact that almost all cases of voter fraud have been committed by conservatives). They plan to go "well, there was no actual fraud with THIS type of voting, but we've outline how it COULD be potentially used as fraud" and the Arizona GOP will go "yup, let's ban that type of voting."

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Like I said, wouldn't the main source of unreliability for mail-in voting be the potential for votes to get lost?

This conspiracy theory doesn't even remotely hold up under scrutiny, and it sounded stupid to begin with. Stupid conservatives just can't accept they lost.

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Jakyl25 posted...

The Arizona audit by the CYBER NINJAS is finally finished

They found that Biden actually won by more than originally reported

https://arizonaagenda.substack.com/p/we-got-the-senate-audit-report

Well Trump did tell us we'd get tired of winning.

How many times is this now?

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xp1337 posted...

It'll just be crickets or "When they made that (false) claim about extra votes they got too close to the TRUTH and the DEEP STATE got to them and made them say it was a mistake and from there they were just controlled opposition designed to gaslight us about what we all KNOW to be the case!!!! #AuditTheAudit"

Audits all the way down!

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Chapo got Rod Blagojevich on the pod, lmao cant wait to listen

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https://twitter.com/curtishouck/status/1441077414436687872?s=21

yes, the horses were the problem here

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Kabuki theater

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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/curtishouck/status/1441077414436687872?s=21

yes, the horses were the problem here

...Was that not the problem? I haven't really seen much about whatever the current border crisis is, but what little I have seen was mostly about using horses. Is there something unusual going on that I missed?
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The horses are bad optics, but do you think the situation would be any better if the border patrol was on segways?


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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/curtishouck/status/1441077414436687872?s=21

yes, the horses were the problem here

That was exactly my thought when I heard that decision.

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Sorry, I kind of misspoke there. Are the horses not the thing that most people are complaining about right now, or is the border patrol being worse than usual in non-horse related ways? I'm not a fan of the border patrol, but it does make sense for them to use horses.
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I think the horses are incidental to whats happening and it just looks bad rounding people up on horseback

Its the handling of the humanitarian crisis of the Haitian immigrants that is the real problem. So I guess those horses have to go on paid administrative leave until this blows over

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Xeybozn posted...

Sorry, I kind of misspoke there. Are the horses not the thing that most people are complaining about right now, or is the border patrol being worse than usual in non-horse related ways? I'm not a fan of the border patrol, but it does make sense for them to use horses.

It was less about the horses and more about the people using the reigns as whips. At least that is the problem I've heard most.

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https://twitter.com/rightwingwatch/status/1441451547943063553?s=21

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I honestly don't understand Texas's obsession with horse cops. Well, aside from the obvious intimidation tactics and cowboy aesthetic. We've got a bunch in the city and (like a lot of police equipment) they seem unnecessary. CBP at least has some kind of justification for terrain mobility but like...come on. We're talking about migrants and refugees here, this is a textbook problem policing is not a solution to even without being on a horse.

Also a day later and I'm still not over that Tulsi post where she's complaining that human rights violations are happening because the border isn't restrictive enough. This is ultimate contrarian centrist brain. Even better - this is just the standard conservative talking point now as Abbott is getting in on the fun too:

Gov. Greg Abbott placed the blame for the influx of migrants camped under a bridge in Del Rio, Texas, squarely on the Biden administration Tuesday.
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"Because the Biden administration is doing nothing to secure our border, it has been the state of Texas that has had to step up and address this challenge," Abbott said during a visit to the border city.
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Abbott said the "open border" policy of the Biden administration has encouraged people to come to Del Rio. He had a clear warning for those considering traveling to the border. "If you think about crossing this river in Texas you might end up with handcuffs, going straight to jail," he said.

Abbott called for ports of entry in Texas to be shut last Thursday. The next day, U.S. Customs and Border Protection closed the Del Rio port of entry to trade and travel. He has also called on the Biden administration to make federal emergency declaration for the state of Texas because of the situation on the border.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2021/09/21/greg-abbott-del-rio-texas-haitian-migrants-immigraton-haiti/5798466001/

Just an unreal grift from everyone involved with this.

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

I honestly don't understand Texas's obsession with horse cops. Well, aside from the obvious intimidation tactics and cowboy aesthetic.

I mean, it sounds like you understand it completely?

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lol i had no idea lauren southern came out of retirement last year

why isn't she banned from youtube yet

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

lol i had no idea lauren southern came out of retirement last year

why isn't she banned from youtube yet

Literally banned from the UK but not from youtube. Terrible and youtube need to crack down on their fascism problem.

Also it looks like the Social Democrats did indeed win the election in Germany beating Merkels CDU. Looks like a more left-leaning government is assured, though probably with the Greens and the neoliberal FDP rather than the Greens and leftwing Die Linke.

Also San Marino just voted to greatly liberalise their abortion laws.

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Lightning Strikes posted...

Terrible and youtube need to crack down on their fascism problem.

the most baffling thing to me is that steven crowder is still not banned. he has 5.5 million subscribers and he was literally making blatantly antisemitic remarks to sam seder a few months ago. at least southern has a relatively small channel.

what makes it even weirder is that youtube DID ban other political channels, like stefan molyneux's. totally justified, of course, but he didn't even have a millions subs when he got banned!

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As goes Tucker, so goes the GOP. First Tucker explicitly names and supports the "Great Replacement Theory" and on cue now we've got the House GOP doing the same (plus calling the ADL racist on top of it.)

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1442108619638591490

Meanwhile, over in the Senate... hahaha... haha.. ha... *screams internally*

Sinema is saying she won't accept any corporate or income tax increases. ...how long until we can say the green party is an op?

https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1442113610071908353

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xp1337 posted...

As goes Tucker, so goes the GOP. First Tucker explicitly names and supports the "Great Replacement Theory" and on cue now we've got the House GOP doing the same (plus calling the ADL racist on top of it.)

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1442108619638591490

Meanwhile, over in the Senate... hahaha... haha.. ha... *screams internally*

Sinema is saying she won't accept any corporate or income tax increases. ...how long until we can say the green party is an op?

https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1442113610071908353

What does the Green Party have to do with this? lol, she hasnt identified with the Green Party in 17 years, this is Democrat behavior, dude.

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IDK, I think I have one of the best track records in this topic for identifying grifters and false allies that have tried to embed themselves in progressive/left politics long before a lot of people realize it and will even argue/attack me over it - Gabbard, Greenwald, etc.

And I'm saying history has shown that "(former) Green Party" is a red flag time and time again.

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If it was revealed there hasn't been a genuine Green Party politician, current or former, since Ralph Nader, I would not be the least bit shocked.
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xp1337 posted...

And I'm saying history has shown that "(former) Green Party" is a red flag time and time again.

The Green Party is a bad party, sure, but that is not why Sinema sucks lol.

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always blows my mind that Rs think blatant white nationalism is their key for the future instead of appealing to immigrants from more traditionally conservative backgrounds that *very much* do exist

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If you guys havent checked out r/HermanCainAward yet, I highly recommend it. It is a bizarre and terrifying look at the other side. And it is clear evidence as to why we will never reach herd immunity.

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Suprak the Stud posted...

If you guys havent checked out r/HermanCainAward yet, I highly recommend it. It is a bizarre and terrifying look at the other side. And it is clear evidence as to why we will never reach herd immunity.

I find it extremely comforting and it has been a huge aid in staying sane.

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