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Lorkhaj
10/17/21 12:23:57 PM
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https://twitter.com/carlbeijer/status/1449464678158118913?s=21



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Lorkhaj
10/17/21 1:01:09 PM
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Bump for our tankies

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Lorkhaj
10/17/21 1:34:23 PM
#3:


Watching people who lived through this shit in the comments saying this is wrong and it sucked and then being mansplained at by privileged western communists about how no, actually, their lived experiences are wrong is giving me life.

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Antifar
10/17/21 1:40:33 PM
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I follow this guy, and he is absolutely trolling. He's retweeted Crenshaw and Coulter quote tweeting him

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Lorkhaj
10/17/21 1:43:05 PM
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Seems to me that it's not great trolling if it's such a believable facsimile of what these people actually believe that plenty of leftwing people thought it was legit too. Especially when one writes for a publication with such amazing takes as "murdering the tsar's children was good" and "the Berlin Wall was a good thing, actually"

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ElatedVenusaur
10/17/21 1:43:37 PM
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Pity post.

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Lorkhaj
10/17/21 1:44:39 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
Pity post.
Aww, someones upset

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Antifar
10/17/21 1:45:52 PM
#8:


Lorkhaj posted...
Seems to me that it's not great trolling if it's such a believable facsimile of what these people actually believe that plenty of leftwing people thought it was legit too.
DE did that for years for Republicans on this board, and he was the best troll we've ever had. It's a better troll the more people you get to think you're serious.

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davyheinz
10/17/21 1:46:11 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
Pity post.


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ButteryMales
10/17/21 1:48:42 PM
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Lorkhaj posted...
Aww, someones upset
I know, right? It's so sad to bump a flopic so much.
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Shablagoo
10/17/21 1:49:47 PM
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Here in America when I was homeless I had the freedom to not have bread.

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Antifar
10/17/21 1:50:15 PM
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Like, this is two tweets before the OP
https://twitter.com/CarlBeijer/status/1449447937671671814

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Smashingpmkns
10/17/21 1:50:46 PM
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Seems like pretty obvious bait tbh
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Lorkhaj
10/17/21 1:51:00 PM
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I suppose I dont see the skilled and clever trolling behind heres something people on my side actually believe, but its fake this time! Haha gotcha!

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sutree
10/17/21 1:54:47 PM
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lol.

I don't get his angle though. 95% of people are going to think he's an idiot and this will be used for ragebait... what does he or anyone else get out of it? Satisfaction that he owned the rightoids with le ebin troll?

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Lorkhaj
10/17/21 1:56:04 PM
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sutree posted...
what does he or anyone else get out of it? Satisfaction that he owned the rightoids with le ebin troll?
This is what I'm saying

Lorkhaj posted...
I suppose I dont see the skilled and clever trolling behind heres something people on my side actually believe, but its fake this time! Haha gotcha!
It's just really dumb "trolling" when it's a belief that plenty of tankies actually hold.

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Background_Guy
10/17/21 1:56:54 PM
#17:


I'm fine with some good old fashion trolling but the fact that Jacobin actually published this guy makes them look like complete morons
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Lorkhaj
10/17/21 1:58:05 PM
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Background_Guy posted...
I'm fine with some good old fashion trolling but the fact that Jacobin actually published this guy makes them look like complete morons
You're referring to a publication whose editor has posted about the necessity of killing children and the benefits of the Berlin Wall. Jacobin is already devoid of any integrity or moral compass.

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ButteryMales
10/17/21 1:58:29 PM
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I'm sure he's so sad that you're raging and wasting time on a flopic.

You should google Andy Kaufman.
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Intro2Logic
10/17/21 2:01:24 PM
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Lorkhaj posted...
I suppose I dont see the skilled and clever trolling behind heres something people on my side actually believe, but its fake this time! Haha gotcha
Half your topics are "here's something a lefty rando on Twitter actually believes", just presented as criticism rather than ironic agreement.

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Lorkhaj
10/17/21 2:01:55 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
Half your topics are "here's something a lefty rando on Twitter actually believes", just presented as criticism rather than ironic agreement.
....Are you confusing me with another poster?

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Shablagoo
10/17/21 2:02:41 PM
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For those who dont know, material conditions in Russia improved dramatically under Soviet leadership and their life expectancy even surpassed that of the United States at one point. They went from a feudal, agrarian, monarchical society into one of the worlds major superpowers in a shockingly short time.

And as to the alleged sarcasm of the Tweeterwell, quality of life fell off hard after the USSR collapsed and people who saw the transition certainly remember this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostalgia_for_the_Soviet_Union

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theAteam
10/17/21 2:03:27 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
For those who dont know, material conditions in Russia improved dramatically under Soviet leadership and their life expectancy even surpassed that of the United States at one point. They went from a feudal, agrarian, monarchical society into one of the worlds major superpowers in a shockingly short time.

And as to the sarcasm of the Tweeterwell, quality of life fell off hard after the USSR collapsed and people who saw the transition certainly remember this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostalgia_for_the_Soviet_Union

I dated a Russian girl for a while and she said a lot of her family remember the USSR very fondly.

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Lorkhaj
10/17/21 2:03:43 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
For those who dont know, material conditions in Russia improved dramatically under Soviet leadership and their life expectancy even surpassed that of the United States at one point. They went from a feudal, agrarian, monarchical society into one of the worlds major superpowers in a shockingly short time.

And as to the sarcasm of the Tweeterwell, quality of life fell off hard after the USSR collapsed and people who saw the transition certainly remember this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostalgia_for_the_Soviet_Union
I'm glad we have an American who's never left the country to talk about material conditions in the USSR while having absolutely zero expertise on the subject.

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Intro2Logic
10/17/21 2:03:59 PM
#25:


Lorkhaj posted...
....Are you confusing me with another poster?
Actually yeah I thought you were CruelBuffalo's alt.

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Lorkhaj
10/17/21 2:04:25 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
Actually yeah I thought you were CruelBuffalo's alt.
Oh god lol. I can understand your post then. But that hurts.

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treewojima
10/17/21 2:06:57 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
Pity post.
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Shablagoo
10/17/21 2:07:28 PM
#28:


theAteam posted...
I dated a Russian girl for a while and she said a lot of her family remember the USSR very fondly.

100%. Even on YouTube there are videos of older people from the region speaking on this subject.

Lorkhaj posted...
I'm glad we have an American who's never left the country to talk about material conditions in the USSR while having absolutely zero expertise on the subject.

Just the knowledge of dedicated researchers and documented history, sorry that doesnt measure up to whatever boogeyman story about the USSR that you invented in your childhood diary 30 years ago.

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theAteam
10/17/21 2:09:36 PM
#29:


Also are we making fun of bread lines while ignoring shit like this



Of course Americans do it in cars because we have to do literally everything in cars

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DarthAragorn
10/17/21 2:09:49 PM
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The real bread was the friends they made along the way

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Lorkhaj
10/17/21 2:13:08 PM
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theAteam posted...
Also are we making fun of bread lines while ignoring shit like this



Of course Americans do it in cars because we have to do literally everything in cars
Who is ignoring Americas uniquely dystopic bullshit? Certainly not me, since 90% of the topics I make on this site seem to be criticizing our current hellhole

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Shablagoo
10/17/21 2:16:33 PM
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Lorkhaj posted...
Who is ignoring Americas uniquely dystopic bullshit? Certainly not me, since 90% of the topics I make on this site seem to be criticizing our current hellhole

Says the guy who goes out of his way to complain about a state that dissolved 30+ years ago because some random blogger farted out a joke Tweet about it lmao

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Lorkhaj
10/17/21 2:17:35 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Says the guy who goes out of his way to complain about a state that dissolved 30+ years ago because some random blogger farted out a Tweet about it lmao
Of all the users on this site, your opinions on authoritarian states mean among the least. We all know your bullshit, run along.

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1337toothbrush
10/17/21 2:20:01 PM
#34:


Thankfully after America brought glorious capitalism to Russia, their economy has been amazing ever since!

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Shablagoo
10/17/21 2:26:18 PM
#35:


1337toothbrush posted...
Thankfully after America brought glorious capitalism to Russia, their economy has been amazing ever since!

Exactly! Life expectancy has fallen off, bigotry has gone way way way up, nutrition and inequality is far worse. Great work, America!

Uhh





Well, America, its not all bad. Youve certainly allowed TC to be smug in his cozy imperial core nest if nothing else, thats for sure.

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Lorkhaj
10/17/21 2:27:22 PM
#36:


Its always funny when people who openly support the CCPs imperial ambitions call others who are actually opposed to imperialism on all fronts imperialists

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Shablagoo
10/17/21 2:31:09 PM
#37:


I didnt call you an imperialist, I said you live in the imperial core. I suggest remedial English courses.

And ah, yes, Chinas imperial ambitions. Go ahead, next fantasize about my own ambitions to do whatever nefarious thing you can come up with. Pfft.

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Esrac
10/17/21 2:32:27 PM
#38:


At a glance, I'm not sure if its a sarcastic troll or genuine. It sounds close enough to unironic communist apologism that even if its a troll, it could easily be convincing.

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Lorkhaj
10/17/21 2:32:43 PM
#39:


Sorry, "China's imperialist actions currently being undertaken," since apparently "ambitions" was too confusing for you.

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Lorkhaj
10/17/21 2:33:25 PM
#40:


Esrac posted...
It sounds close enough to unironic communist apologism that even if its a troll, it could easily be convincing.
Yeah this is why it's funny to me that anyone ITT is pulling a "haha he got you!" considering we have posters ITT who have said far worse shit in defense of communist states.

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Shablagoo
10/17/21 2:34:06 PM
#41:


Lorkhaj posted...
Sorry, "China's imperialist actions currently being undertaken," since apparently "ambitions" was too confusing for you.

Citations needed.

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David1988
10/17/21 2:41:33 PM
#42:


Are you saying the CCP doesnt dabble in any sort of imperialist type activity, Shab?

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DarthAragorn
10/17/21 2:43:35 PM
#43:


David1988 posted...
Are you saying the CCP doesnt dabble in any sort of imperialist type activity, Shab?
Shabgoober exists solely to praise China in any possible context, dudes a joke

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10/17/21 2:45:03 PM
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Broseph_Stalin
10/17/21 2:46:20 PM
#45:


do the people who think he's trolling realize jacobin is literally a tankie rag run by trust fund kids or what
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Shablagoo
10/17/21 2:49:16 PM
#46:


David1988 posted...
Are you saying the CCP doesnt dabble in any sort of imperialist type activity, Shab?

I mean, it doesnt. Their foreign policy has been aggressively non-interventionist ever since they fucked up in places like Vietnam.

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treewojima
10/17/21 2:50:38 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
David1988 posted...
Are you saying the CCP doesnt dabble in any sort of imperialist type activity, Shab?

I mean, it doesnt. Their foreign policy has been aggressively non-interventionist ever since they fucked up in places like Vietnam.

uhhhhhh
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Lorkhaj
10/17/21 2:52:09 PM
#48:


Don't even engage him on that topic. He's posted in plenty of topics about China meddling in other countries and then turns around and pretends he has no idea what this could possibly be about.

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Broseph_Stalin
10/17/21 2:53:03 PM
#49:


when you have no imperial ambitions


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Shablagoo
10/17/21 2:58:53 PM
#50:


Funny how Broseph is always on your side when it comes to China.

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