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Judgmenl
01/28/22 5:11:23 AM
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Yea I'm not getting PLA now.
When I said I felt like the series was going in wrong direction, I did not expect them to make an Isekai.
Now it truely iis going in the wrong direction.

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CaptainStrong
01/28/22 5:17:41 AM
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Pokmon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team and Red Rescue Team

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Kimbos_Egg
01/28/22 5:33:14 AM
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well.. i mean its just time travel.. Its not even the first time they've done it..

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KodyKeir
01/28/22 6:55:53 AM
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And isn't it dimensional time travel? Effects nothing outside of this one game unless they want it to.

I mean, they'll probably find a way to throw Looker in there too.

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Lokarin
01/28/22 7:08:59 AM
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Peoples Liberation Army?

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Lorthremar
01/28/22 9:18:57 AM
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what the fuck is this topic talking about

pla? isekai?

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papercup
01/28/22 9:20:16 AM
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What is "Isekai"?

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MetalGarurumon
01/28/22 9:45:12 AM
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what is this topic title
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Judgmenl
01/28/22 9:47:57 AM
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I wasn't awake when I wrote this.

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MetalGarurumon
01/28/22 9:48:32 AM
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i think you were
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Judgmenl
01/28/22 10:11:11 AM
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I posted this at 5:11am.

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KodyKeir
01/28/22 11:38:36 AM
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Lorthremar posted...
what the fuck is this topic talking about

pla? isekai?

Pokemon Legends: Arceus

Isekai is a type of genre where the protagonist is thrown into a world not their own. This is essentially their take on Platinum, but perhaps not as well done? It could be an awesome foundation but idk cause my copy has not arrived yet.

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Judgmenl
01/28/22 11:47:41 AM
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I've only watched Vtubers play it. Looks interesting at least.
I won't be buying it.

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Blightzkrieg
01/28/22 11:52:31 AM
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The Pokemon company had one good idea in 1995 and have been riding that wave ever since

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DevilSummoner1
01/28/22 12:31:27 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
I won't be buying it.

wow thanks for letting us know /s

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papercup
01/28/22 6:22:39 PM
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I still don't know what "Isekai" is =/

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Kimbos_Egg
01/28/22 6:43:23 PM
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KodyKeir posted...
Pokemon Legends: Arceus

Isekai is a type of genre where the protagonist is thrown into a world not their own. This is essentially their take on Platinum, but perhaps not as well done? It could be an awesome foundation but idk cause my copy has not arrived yet.


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Judgmenl
01/28/22 6:44:44 PM
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papercup posted...
I still don't know what "Isekai" is =/
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TrappedInAnotherWorld

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Lokarin
01/28/22 9:50:27 PM
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I don't get what Isekai has become tho

Take Futurama or Monster Rancher (cartoon), those are clear Isekai

But, things like "i killed slimes for 300 years until I reached max level or whatever", aside from a 1 minute blurb that the protagonist died and this is their afterlife rematch... nothing about their previous life informs their character; yet it's labeled as Isekai merely because of it

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Blightzkrieg
01/28/22 9:57:09 PM
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Lokarin posted...
I don't get what Isekai has become tho

Take Futurama or Monster Rancher (cartoon), those are clear Isekai

But, things like "i killed slimes for 300 years until I reached max level or whatever", aside from a 1 minute blurb that the protagonist died and this is their afterlife rematch... nothing about their previous life informs their character; yet it's labeled as Isekai merely because of it
SAO redefined the isekai genre in Japan despite arguably not being an isekai

Danmachi is an isekai even though the protagonist isn't from another world. It has all the modern tropes.

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MetalGarurumon
01/29/22 5:41:20 PM
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danmachi isn't an isekai lmao
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Nichtcrawler X
01/29/22 5:47:39 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
SAO redefined the isekai genre in Japan despite arguably not being an isekai

The world being virtual disqualifies it?

Lokarin posted...
nothing about their previous life informs their character; yet it's labeled as Isekai merely because of it

I-sekai means new/other world right? It is more of a setting descriptor, does it really require a bunch of tropes to be an actual isekai?

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Blightzkrieg
01/29/22 6:00:00 PM
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MetalGarurumon posted...
danmachi isn't an isekai lmao
Technically yes, yet if you watched an episode in the model you'd immediately assume it was one. It's indistinguishable.

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The_Viscount
01/29/22 6:26:56 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
Yea I'm not getting PLA now.

I didn't know what that stood for until somebody else posted the mystery dungeons.

CaptainStrong posted...
Pokmon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team and Red Rescue Team

Yeah, I mean, they've done a bunch of Mystery Dungeons now, where the whole thing is waking up as a Pokemon.

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Blightzkrieg
01/30/22 5:15:24 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/7/AAasTxAAC3ir.jpg

Here you are my boy: Poke Balls! Throw these at Pokemon to catch them.
Ah but that won't do for an explanation will it? I do apologize. Let me be more thorough.
Now I've mentioned already that Pokemon are strange, marvelous creatures.
What's so strange about them, you ask?
Well, each and every Pokemon is able to shrink itself down to a minuscule size!
And that's where Poke Balls come in!
Poke Balls are a recent invention. Throw them at a Pokemon and the Pokemon will shrink down and fit inside the ball, comfy as can be. And with that, you've caught a Pokemon!

This is the greatest retcon of all time


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Judgmenl
01/30/22 5:29:09 PM
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The whole story has zero respect for the game's continuity that's been established for the past 25 years.
Togepi was a newly discovered Pokemon in GSC.
I think people need to just come to the conclusion that current GF project management (mainly Ohmori) are just incompetent.

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GanonsSpirit
01/30/22 5:41:19 PM
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God help us if they don't respect the continuity in Pokemon.

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Blightzkrieg
01/30/22 5:43:31 PM
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Continuity has the ability to shrink down to the size of a turd and flushed down the toilet

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The_Viscount
01/31/22 4:43:57 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
The whole story has zero respect for the game's continuity that's been established for the past 25 years.
Togepi was a newly discovered Pokemon in GSC.
I think people need to just come to the conclusion that current GF project management (mainly Ohmori) are just incompetent.

Usually what happens when creators move away from the franchise and, rather than hiring fans, they opt to go with people with little or no knowledge.

Then again, a complete spinoff unconnected to everything else can make up its own shit. Ultimate Marvel had alternate explanations for a lot of things, for example.

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Judgmenl
01/31/22 4:45:49 PM
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The_Viscount posted...
Usually what happens when creators move away from the franchise and, rather than hiring fans, they opt to go with people with little or no knowledge.
This frankly makes a lot of sense with Masuda moving away from leading development of the games over the past few years.

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Nichtcrawler X
01/31/22 4:49:00 PM
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The_Viscount posted...
Ultimate Marvel had alternate explanations for a lot of things, for example.

It was a separate reality. Did PLA not get advertised as taking place in the past of the world we already know?

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agesboy
01/31/22 5:03:46 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
This is the greatest retcon of all time
that's been around since gen 1 or 2 in some supplementary book apparently, but it was never mentioned again outside of that

Nichtcrawler X posted...
The world being virtual disqualifies it?
it's more like the goal of the villain was to explicitly create an artificial isekai, and he did for the most part succeed, but it was a very hacky solution

however in later parts of SAO, i'd argue Alicization is absolutely unquestionably an isekai, because it's a simulated world with hundreds of years of history and fully-realized AI NPCs, some of which have formed souls

isekai like sao had been relatively common in the decade up to sao's anime adaptation in web novel and light novel format (Leadale, an isekai anime airing this season, was written in 2010, and sao itself was first written in the early 2000's) but none really took off

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helIy
01/31/22 6:33:01 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
Technically yes, yet if you watched an episode in the model you'd immediately assume it was one. It's indistinguishable.
who is jumping into danmachi on just a random episode

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helIy
01/31/22 6:34:09 PM
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The_Viscount posted...
I didn't know what that stood for until somebody else posted the mystery dungeons.
it stands for the peoples liberation army

the chinese army

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