Current Events > Joe Rogan, on vaccines (3/10/2020)

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Joe Rogan has blood on his hands

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Which has nothing to do with its application to covid. Which you know.

"I don't trust the vaccine. It hasn't been tested enough. Let me take a dewormer at doses that haven't been proven safe for an off-label use that hasn't been tested."

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What's the point in pointing out that doctors perscribe it then?

Methamphetamine has medical uses too. Doesn't mean you should smoke it to cure random diseases.

We should start taking penicillin for high cholesterol. I mean, it's a drug that has been celebrated and was revolutionary. Who cares if it's an antibiotic? It's a drug that has been approved for human use. You should be able to stuff it down your throat for any reason.

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What was the point of that statement? You wrote it bro.

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Now people are taking boner pills for COVID. That might sound crude, but that's what idiots are doing.

They don't trust Big Pharma's unproven treatments, but they'll trust Big Pharma's unproven treatments.

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But does that matter, for the core point of the story?

totalnerdken posted...

To further reflect that it was human grade and that Joe didn't get it at some back alley shit. Not because of its usefulness (which there is none) to covid.

Did you read that and just make up this whole other story behind it, never even asked me about it, and just assumed what I was thinking? Why tf didn't you ask for clarification earlier instead of making assumptions?

I also said that JOE'S doctor prescribed it. I never said "doctor's" prescribed it.

Who the fuck cares if its human grade.

If a doctor prescribes cocaine, which can have medical uses as a local anesthetic, for a fever, should you still take it? No. Ivermectin can have actual medical uses, but just because someone prescribed it doesnt mean taking it is a great idea.

Thats the fucking point. Yes, youre technically right that it was the human version but it doesnt fucking matter because its not a fucking cure for COVID.

Now shut the fuck up for once and stop trolling about a fucking pandemic.

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Why was it useful?

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No, he just took a dewormer for COVID like a fucking idiot. I wish he would have brought that script to our pharmacy because he would have gotten a whole episode out of talking about us refusing to even entertain filling it.

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Getting some dumbass quack to write a script doesn't change the narrative like you think it does.

It's fucked up that a pharmacy allowed him to fill that. Maybe he did go through less-than-legitimate channels.

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Why are you so hung up on this and not the misinformation Rogan and his guests were peddling?

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But it wouldn't matter either way. Shit's dangerous and ineffective either way, prescribed or not. Just as stupid if he got it from an animal feed store or his celebrity physician.

The only reason to spend time arguing like this is to indirectly rehabilitate the argument about whether ivermectin is a good alternative.

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Then let it go, bro. No one likes a pedant.

Stewman_Magoo posted...

Why are you so hung up on this and not the misinformation Rogan and his guests were peddling?

He wasn't spreading misinformation and neither were his guests, these far left propagandist ideas are terrible.

totalnerdken posted...

Who tf said it was a good idea? Show me the quote. You're arguing nothing here.

I'M NOT ADVOCATING IVERMECTIN.

Then read my last paragraph.

COVxy posted...

But it wouldn't matter either way. Shit's dangerous and ineffective either way, prescribed or not. Just as stupid if he got it from an animal feed store or his celebrity physician.

The only reason to spend time arguing like this is to indirectly rehabilitate the argument about whether ivermectin is a good alternative.

Again, the only reason you're so deadset about this is because you think the detail matters. Why do you think the detail matters?

I don't know exactly what the livestock dose is, but anti-vaxxers might actually be taking even more than that. The doses were way over the recommended human dose.

trappedunderice posted...

He wasn't spreading misinformation and neither were his guests, these far left propagandist ideas are terrible.

What do you know about Patrick Malone?

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Yeah, but the lie has no consequence. Other than allowing people to more quicky get to the same correct conclusion.

So, why do you care?

I think the point is that framing ivermection as "horse paste" ignores that it is IS used in humans for certain illnesses. It wasn't effective for humans with COVID, but a bunch of quacks promoted it, and the counteresponse since some were using the horse dewormer variant with horse-level doses was to call ivermectin horse paste. That's how you get CNN meshing the two bits together.

The anti-ivermectin stuff was mostly fine but it's hard to deny it got diluted by its own swamp of misinformation when a major news network is mixing up two things (or the fact a number of fake stories about ERs dealing with ivermectin overdoses were pushed.)

I don't know why this needs two pages of arguments

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The conclusion that Joe Rogan took a dangerous and ineffective round of medication because all of his conservative buddies told him to.

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That's exactly what I say. But because it's the same conclusion, I can't bring myself to give a fuck that CNN called it horse dewormer.

So, again, why do you?

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It's not malicious if the conclusion is the same.

Do you think the conclusion is different?

trappedunderice posted...

He wasn't spreading misinformation and neither were his guests, these far left propagandist ideas are terrible.

all malone ever does is lie

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Again, the conclusion is the same, therefore it is not malicious. The only reason to believe it is malicious is if you believe the conclusion about Joe Rogan is different. Do you believe that?

ThyCorndog posted...

all malone ever does is lie

What did he lie about?

Malone is a slightly less embarassing Wakefield

It's obvious he's a legit guy turned grifter because his entire "Just asking questions about the vaccine that include hyperbolic claims and lies" shtick started after a paper he helped write was rejected by peer review.

The most obvious lie is the "mass formation psychosis" bit that isn't an actual scientific diagnosis lol

trappedunderice posted...

What did he lie about?

Pretty much 99% of what he says with regards to the vaccine

ThyCorndog posted...

Pretty much 99% of what he says with regards to the vaccine

Worth noting he also associates with the "vaccines cause autism crowd" because he decided to attend a rally full of antivax quacks