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RobertDoback
03/25/22 2:27:23 PM
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https://twitter.com/dgurdasani1/status/1507422104135913476?t=tehOUISFQCXliMZM_AM7fQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1507023167281278980?t=JyKArxepmZx2MACc-RrpXA&s=19

I know one of the resident idiot/downplayers liked to preach how pointing out unvaccinated children being at risked for justifying NPIs was just an "appeal to emotions."

I just wanna say to everyone who embraced going back to normal--good job!

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kingdrake2
03/25/22 2:29:35 PM
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omicron v2 variant sucks.

i have to lay the game unfortunately because i need store trips to survive :(.

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RobertDoback
03/25/22 2:43:54 PM
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Stay safe, Drizzy. :/

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PatrickMahomes
03/25/22 2:44:50 PM
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Ruvan22
03/25/22 6:00:07 PM
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Is DeSantis going to reverse his position? And his surgeon general?
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RobertDoback
03/25/22 8:21:14 PM
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https://twitter.com/TheAngryEpi/status/1507387327445839877?t=zl3UjojjqHPJQtpRNJTi-A&s=19

https://twitter.com/TheAngryEpi/status/1507387329119330305?t=OLpXSM_cqb09yk05dv58nA&s=19

https://twitter.com/TheAngryEpi/status/1507387330495057921?s=19

Ruvan22 posted...
Is DeSantis going to reverse his position? And his surgeon general?


In a just world, they'd be tried and imprisoned for life.

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Frolex
03/25/22 8:25:59 PM
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you'd think after it happened the fourth time, people would learn that "pretend covid is over the literal nanosecond case numbers begin a downward trend" was a bad idea

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Tyranthraxus
03/25/22 8:38:38 PM
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Schools: opened again
Omicron: new variant that hurts children more

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ScazarMeltex
03/25/22 8:48:55 PM
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iTs JuST tHe FlU

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RobertDoback
03/26/22 2:00:55 PM
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Frolex posted...
you'd think after it happened the fourth time, people would learn that "pretend covid is over the literal nanosecond case numbers begin a downward trend" was a bad idea


Nah man. Music festivals and sports games are too important.

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TheVipaGTS
03/26/22 2:07:17 PM
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But....Kids didn't get really sick within 1 week of it happening that means they are immune and can never get sick!!

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Jiek_Fafn
03/26/22 2:11:11 PM
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Fuck off children. I need everyone to see my face when I go to the grocery store

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kingdrake2
03/26/22 2:11:22 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
But....Kids didn't get really sick within 1 week of it happening that means they are immune and can never get sick!!


1 week to 2 before schools see more outbreaks again. spring break ends for some.

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uwnim
03/26/22 2:25:03 PM
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RobertDoback posted...
Nah man. Music festivals and sports games are too important.
Don't care about sports, but I do need the occasional concert. Basically the only time I go anywhere I don't have to go to.

BA.2 isn't new. It has been around as long as BA.1 has, but wasn't able to start taking over until BA.1 became dominant and started running out of folks to infect. It is probably unlikely to cause another wave, but it would result in background levels of covid to remain elevated.

Looking at https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1507054545616003075 believing Covid wasn't dangerous to children was very reasonable. All those NA are the result of the folks who worked on this having 0 instances of that issue in previous Covid variants. That indicates prior Covid variants were less dangerous to children than the flu, while this current one is notably more dangerous.

Does anyone have something like this for other age groups? Curious to see if it is more dangerous in general or if it is specifically more dangerous for children.

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RobertDoback
03/26/22 2:33:38 PM
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uwnim posted...
Don't care about sports, but I do need the occasional concert.

No you don't. But I did need this statement before determining whether I should take your opinion seriously or not.

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uwnim
03/26/22 2:45:39 PM
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RobertDoback posted...
No you don't. But I did need this statement before determining whether I should take your opinion seriously or not.
No, I seriously do. Like it is one of the few times I can feel like happy and whatnot. Instead of the normal bleh that slowly grinds me down until I feel absolutely worthless. This isn't some dumb ass thing. Before any concert I've gone to since Covid, I looked at the risk/reward and decided on whether or not it would be a good idea. Ended up not going to one in December that I had a ticket for due to case levels rising, possible vaccine evasion in the new variant and higher costs of transmitting it to others at the time.

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MICHALECOLE
03/26/22 2:48:05 PM
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What if everybody had just gotten vaccinated
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Shablagoo
03/26/22 2:51:04 PM
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Whats the latest news on getting kids under 5 yrs old the COVID vaccine? My niece is semi-protected because my sister got vaccinated while she was in the womb, but my nephew has nothing.

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uwnim
03/26/22 2:54:04 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
What if everybody had just gotten vaccinated
Less deaths, less infections in the US, Canada, UK and EU. No change in the countries without the ability to vaccinate. No idea how this would affect the places that tried 0 Covid like China and Australia. Also not sure how this would affect places that had the ability to vaccinate, but lacked the wealth to compete with like the US in purchasing them.

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PatrickMahomes
03/27/22 10:00:58 PM
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uwnim posted...
No, I seriously do. Like it is one of the few times I can feel like happy and whatnot. Instead of the normal bleh that slowly grinds me down until I feel absolutely worthless. This isn't some dumb ass thing. Before any concert I've gone to since Covid, I looked at the risk/reward and decided on whether or not it would be a good idea. Ended up not going to one in December that I had a ticket for due to case levels rising, possible vaccine evasion in the new variant and higher costs of transmitting it to others at the time.
Your happiness, and that of the other millions of americans dealing with increased depression, anxiety, suicide, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, domestic violence, and myriad other ailments directly related to not being allowed to do anything, doesn't matter to people like this.

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The_Creep_2020
03/27/22 10:02:05 PM
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Thats incredibly optimistic of you.

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omega cookie
03/27/22 10:08:38 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
Your happiness, and that of the other millions of americans dealing with increased depression, anxiety, suicide, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, domestic violence, and myriad other ailments directly related to not being allowed to do anything, doesn't matter to people who are intelligent enough to put people's lives over some people's happiness.

Went ahead and fixed that for you, champ. If your happiness and life is shattered because you can't go to concerts, your life was fucked to begin with.

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PatrickMahomes
03/28/22 12:53:46 AM
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omega cookie posted...
Went ahead and fixed that for you, champ. If your happiness and life is shattered because you can't go to concerts, your life was fucked to begin with.
lmfao you're basically saying "fuck you" to @uwnim . fuck his life as long as it makes your life better, right?

sad...

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DarkRoast
03/28/22 12:56:40 AM
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COVID binds ACE2 receptors. It's not a pneumonia; it's a vasculitis.

And anyone who knows how rheumatic fever works would know why it's absolutely irresponsible to claim COVID has long long-term effects on children.


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omega cookie
03/28/22 1:05:52 AM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
fuck his happiness so long as it keeps millions of people from dying during a pandemic.

Fixed this for you, champ. And yeah, fuck him. If he thinks him being able to go to concerts is worth other people dying, I'm glad he doesn't have any happiness in his life.


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PatrickMahomes
03/28/22 2:00:07 AM
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omega cookie posted...
Fixed this for you, champ. And yeah, fuck him. If he thinks him being able to go to concerts is worth other people dying, I'm glad he doesn't have any happiness in his life.
Right, and fuck the millions of others who have either died or had their lives irreversibly damaged by

omega cookie posted...
increased depression, anxiety, suicide, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, domestic violence, and myriad other ailments directly related to not being allowed to do anything


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omega cookie
03/28/22 2:21:15 AM
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Yup. Not infecting people with a deadly disease is well worth whatever happens to people who can't handle not being able to go to large social events.

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uwnim
03/28/22 7:54:33 AM
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Or, we can make responsible decisions and minimize total harm. Avoid things when it is risky to do things, do things when it is not.

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MI4 REAL
03/28/22 8:05:48 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Schools: opened again
Omicron: new variant that hurts children more


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PatrickMahomes
03/28/22 10:21:38 AM
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uwnim posted...
Or, we can make responsible decisions and minimize total harm. Avoid things when it is risky to do things, do things when it is not.
We good, he got suspended for his heinous attitude towards you and people like you.

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RobertDoback
03/28/22 10:28:31 AM
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uwnim posted...
No, I seriously do. Like it is one of the few times I can feel like happy and whatnot. Instead of the normal bleh that slowly grinds me down until I feel absolutely worthless. This isn't some dumb ass thing. Before any concert I've gone to since Covid, I looked at the risk/reward and decided on whether or not it would be a good idea. Ended up not going to one in December that I had a ticket for due to case levels rising, possible vaccine evasion in the new variant and higher costs of transmitting it to others at the time.


I sympathize with you and I'm sorry you're struggling with depression. I don't agree with how Omega responded to you. He was very insensitive and overall inappropriate.

I do wish there was a balance, but there really isn't when we are talking about a virus that spreads like this.

DarkRoast posted...
COVID binds ACE2 receptors. It's not a pneumonia; it's a vasculitis.

And anyone who knows how rheumatic fever works would know why it's absolutely irresponsible to claim COVID has long long-term effects on children.


I'm sorry, are you saying there aren't long term effects in children? Not trying to argue. Just confused.

PatrickMahomes posted...
Right, and fuck the millions of others who have either died or had their lives irreversibly damaged by


Except that didn't happen.

This is why no one takes you seriously.

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PatrickMahomes
03/28/22 10:42:47 AM
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RobertDoback posted...
Except that didn't happen.

https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/depression-rates-tripled-when-pandemic-first-hit/

Depression among adults in the United States tripled in the early 2020 months of the global coronavirus pandemicjumping from 8.5 percent before the pandemic to a staggering 27.8 percent. New research from Boston University School of Public Health reveals that the elevated rate of depression has persisted into 2021, and even worsened, climbing to 32.8 percent and affecting 1 in every 3 American adults.

Literally one google is all it took. So, you're right, it isn't happening to millions of people. It's happening to tens of millions of people. Congratulations on being correct, you win this time!

EDIT: and that's just for depression. don't even need to look into the other ailments at this point

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RobertDoback
03/28/22 10:46:46 AM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
EDIT: and that's just for depression. don't even need to look into the other ailments at this point

Um, except you do...seeing as you implied millions died or had their lives changed forever, specifically from NPIs such as lockdowns and limiting events. Depression increasing doesn't prove you correct, especially when there are a multitude of reasons why that could have happened during a pandemic that aren't just because we shut things down for a few months.

Did you even read your own fucking article? Because it doesn't say what you think it does, smart guy.

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PatrickMahomes
03/28/22 11:07:06 AM
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RobertDoback posted...
Um, except you do...seeing as you implied millions died or had their lives changed forever, specifically from NPIs such as lockdowns and limiting events. Depression increasing doesn't prove you correct, especially when there are a multitude of reasons why that could have happened during a pandemic that aren't just because we shut things down for a few months.

Did you even read your own fucking article? Because it doesn't say what you think it does, smart guy.
Do tell, what other factors besides the pandemic would cause such a massive spike in depression since the pandemic began?

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RobertDoback
03/28/22 11:18:32 AM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
Do tell, what other factors besides the pandemic would cause such a massive spike in depression since the pandemic began?


...you blamed the spike of depression on mitigation efforts taken during the pandemic, not the actual pandemic itself.

Did you even read my response?

RobertDoback posted...
when there are a multitude of reasons why that could have happened during a pandemic that aren't just because we shut things down for a few months.


No shit depression went up because of the pandemic. But that's not your point. Your point was that shutting down entertainment was the cause of it. While it absolutely played a role, it was not the sole reason for "tens of millions dying and having their lives changed forever" as you are arguing.

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DarkRoast
03/28/22 1:00:57 PM
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RobertDoback posted...
I sympathize with you and I'm sorry you're struggling with depression. I don't agree with how Omega responded to you. He was very insensitive and overall inappropriate.

I do wish there was a balance, but there really isn't when we are talking about a virus that spreads like this.

I'm sorry, are you saying there aren't long term effects in children? Not trying to argue. Just confused.

Except that didn't happen.

This is why no one takes you seriously.

Meant to say *doesn't have

My bad

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RobertDoback
03/28/22 2:09:47 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Meant to say *doesn't have

My bad


All good. I figured, but also wanted to clarify because I put a lot of stock in your medical opinions.

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RobertDoback
03/29/22 8:31:46 AM
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https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1508782634620665862?t=WoCUy4IclUlSbmZqJfi4hA&s=19

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