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Robazoid 06/04/22 9:45:35 PM #1:	The last topic found a good crew interested in multiplayer randomizers, but I'll try to explain all of this well enough that new people can join too. We use the "Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer" for this, which connects several different games (listed below) and is always adding new games! Website: archipelago.gg NOTE TO MODS: While some Archipelago games require emulation, they don't provide any of the hardware or information on how to get it. They're very careful not to break any laws so please don't delete this topic just for linking to them, thx What is a randomizer?: Most games have a linear progression. Item A unlocks Area B, and Area B has Item C to unlock Area D, and so on. In a randomizer, these items are shuffled, so you might find Item C in the first area and can progress to Area D right away. How they work obviously varies from game to game, but most randomizers offer a unique progression path every time you play. Often this turns them into a kind of puzzle to complete. Randomizers use careful logic to ensure you can always beat the game, but it won't always be easy! How can a randomizer be multiplayer?: With Archipelago, instead of a game's items being shuffled within itself, those items are shuffled between several different games. A Link to the Past player can find and send a Super Metroid player's super missiles, and then the Super Metroid player can find the LTTP player's hookshot, and so on. This turns the randomizer experience into one big puzzle split between ten or twenty or more games, and everyone needs to cooperate to complete it. This can be done with everyone playing at the same time, but Archipelago also allows for asynchronous play (or async), meaning your progress is saved and can be resumed later. Any items you send, other players receive when they start playing, and any items they send you will come when you resume. LIST OF GAMES A Link to the Past ChecksFinder (a small Minesweeper-type game) Factorio Final Fantasy Hollow Knight (HK currently has some problems resuming saved games but is playable) Meritous Minecraft Ocarina of Time Raft Risk of Rain 2 Rogue Legacy Secret of Evermore Slay the Spire SMZ3 (LTTP and Super Metroid combined into one game) Sonic Adventure Battle 2 Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty Subnautica Super Mario 64 Super Metroid The Witness Timespinner VVVVVV How to Participate: If you're interested, that's great! Here's a quick breakdown of the steps you need to take, but feel free to ask any questions. 1: Choose your game from the list above. Remember, whatever you choose will be randomized, so you won't be playing it the usual way. Minecraft, for example, locks various crafting recipes behind checks for you to find or other players to send you. You won't even be able to craft a stone pickaxe until you get Progressive Tools. In Starcraft II, you can't build marines until the unit is sent, etc. With that said, no one should be wary of joining. Archipelago allows forfeits if you're having trouble or not having any fun, so feel free to try it out! 2: Make sure you can get your game to work. https://archipelago.gg/tutorial/ has setup guides for the various games, and most of them require the Archipelago client too. I've played a few games and others here have played many others, so hopefully we can help if you're having trouble. If you run into big technical issues, though, you might need to go to the Archipelago discord server and ask there. There are lots of knowledgeable people there who will be happy to help with any questions! 3: Decide on your game's settings and either let me know or send me a yaml file. A yaml is the name for the file that contains your game's settings. Each game on Archipelago allows various setting changes (found here: https://archipelago.gg/games under the settings link by each game). You can either export the settings on the website and send me the file (preferably through discord) or simply let me know of your changes and, as long as there aren't a whole bunch of them, I can happily create a yaml for you. If this is your first time participating, I'd recommend just going with defaults, but some games have some real quality-of-life stuff available so make sure to take a look! 4: Once I get all the yamls and generate the multiworld, the async begins! At that point all you need to do is join in and start playing. We're pretty laid-back here, so while each async will start on a Saturday where hopefully people can play, it's fine if you can't start right away or if you can't play all the time. Most asyncs we've done have taken between a few days to a week, so there's no rush. This is meant to be fun and low-stress for everyone! Lastly, we have a discord server that we use during these. It's helpful to talk in real-time sometimes, and it makes uploading yaml files super easy. People read what's posted here too, though, so joining it isn't mandatory. The link is below and it should never expire, but if you try to join and can't just let me know and I'll generate a new one. https://discord.gg/s5aZFEKTHz --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:965550690] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>The last topic found a good crew interested in multiplayer randomizers, but I'll try to explain all of this well enough that new people can join too. We use the "Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer" for this, which connects several different games (listed below) and is always adding new games!Website: archipelago.ggNOTE TO MODS: While some Archipelago games require emulation, they don't provide any of the hardware or information on how to get it. They're very careful not to break any laws so please don't delete this topic just for linking to them, thxWhat is a randomizer?: Most games have a linear progression. Item A unlocks Area B, and Area B has Item C to unlock Area D, and so on. In a randomizer, these items are shuffled, so you might find Item C in the first area and can progress to Area D right away. How they work obviously varies from game to game, but most randomizers offer a unique progression path every time you play. Often this turns them into a kind of puzzle to complete. Randomizers use careful logic to ensure you can always beat the game, but it won't always be easy!How can a randomizer be multiplayer?: With Archipelago, instead of a game's items being shuffled within itself, those items are shuffled between several different games. A Link to the Past player can find and send a Super Metroid player's super missiles, and then the Super Metroid player can find the LTTP player's hookshot, and so on. This turns the randomizer experience into one big puzzle split between ten or twenty or more games, and everyone needs to cooperate to complete it. This can be done with everyone playing at the same time, but Archipelago also allows for asynchronous play (or async), meaning your progress is saved and can be resumed later. Any items you send, other players receive when they start playing, and any items they send you will come when you resume.LIST OF GAMESA Link to the PastChecksFinder (a small Minesweeper-type game)FactorioFinal FantasyHollow Knight (HK currently has some problems resuming saved games but is playable)MeritousMinecraftOcarina of TimeRaftRisk of Rain 2Rogue LegacySecret of EvermoreSlay the SpireSMZ3 (LTTP and Super Metroid combined into one game)Sonic Adventure Battle 2Starcraft 2: Wings of LibertySubnauticaSuper Mario 64Super MetroidThe WitnessTimespinnerVVVVVVHow to Participate: If you're interested, that's great! Here's a quick breakdown of the steps you need to take, but feel free to ask any questions.1: Choose your game from the list above. Remember, whatever you choose will be randomized, so you won't be playing it the usual way. Minecraft, for example, locks various crafting recipes behind checks for you to find or other players to send you. You won't even be able to craft a stone pickaxe until you get Progressive Tools. In Starcraft II, you can't build marines until the unit is sent, etc. With that said, no one should be wary of joining. Archipelago allows forfeits if you're having trouble or not having any fun, so feel free to try it out!2: Make sure you can get your game to work. https://archipelago.gg/tutorial/ has setup guides for the various games, and most of them require the Archipelago client too. I've played a few games and others here have played many others, so hopefully we can help if you're having trouble. If you run into big technical issues, though, you might need to go to the Archipelago discord server and ask there. There are lots of knowledgeable people there who will be happy to help with any questions!3: Decide on your game's settings and either let me know or send me a yaml file. A yaml is the name for the file that contains your game's settings. Each game on Archipelago allows various setting changes (found here: https://archipelago.gg/games under the settings link by each game). You can either export the settings on the website and send me the file (preferably through discord) or simply let me know of your changes and, as long as there aren't a whole bunch of them, I can happily create a yaml for you. If this is your first time participating, I'd recommend just going with defaults, but some games have some real quality-of-life stuff available so make sure to take a look!4: Once I get all the yamls and generate the multiworld, the async begins! At that point all you need to do is join in and start playing. We're pretty laid-back here, so while each async will start on a Saturday where hopefully people can play, it's fine if you can't start right away or if you can't play all the time. Most asyncs we've done have taken between a few days to a week, so there's no rush. This is meant to be fun and low-stress for everyone!Lastly, we have a discord server that we use during these. It's helpful to talk in real-time sometimes, and it makes uploading yaml files super easy. People read what's posted here too, though, so joining it isn't mandatory. The link is below and it should never expire, but if you try to join and can't just let me know and I'll generate a new one.https://discord.gg/s5aZFEKTHz</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robazoid 06/04/22 9:48:05 PM #2:	Our next randomizer will be next Saturday, June 11th! Start letting me know yaml settings or sending me yamls. I'll play at least a Hollow Knight, maybe one more. I also wanted to mention, the Archipelago discord is finally hosting another gigantic async. The last one was 500 worlds or something and took over a month to complete, who knows how big this next one can get! If you're interested, feel free to check it out. --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:965550737] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Our next randomizer will be next Saturday, June 11th! Start letting me know yaml settings or sending me yamls. I'll play at least a Hollow Knight, maybe one more. I also wanted to mention, the Archipelago discord is finally hosting another gigantic async. The last one was 500 worlds or something and took over a month to complete, who knows how big this next one can get! If you're interested, feel free to check it out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 06/05/22 7:59:28 AM #3:	In for 1-2 somethings --- I consider it a challenge before the whole human race, and I ain't gonna lose (she/her, pronouns in sig oh noes) <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:965558082] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>In for 1-2 somethings </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 06/05/22 8:32:19 AM #4:	I uploaded a new yaml to discord. Some things to note: New yaml includes the potential for lttp shop randomization, which seems pretty fine based on some generation + spoiler logs I looked at I converted it to a multi-world yaml, with one lttp and one v6 world inside the single file (If you want to do this, take a single-world yaml, put --- (three dashes) at the end of it, then past another single-world yaml below it) For anybody who's keeping their own yaml (IIRC this is at least Sheep?), note that the latest release changed progression balancing from an on/off to a numeric sliding scale. If you want it to match the old "on", set the value to 50. You can set it to a lower value to still have some degree of balancing, but reduced impact. Or higher if you want the fill to try to keep you ahead of the progression curve (I don't recommend this for async, or at all really) <cite>Reg posted [p:965558483] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>I uploaded a new yaml to discord. Some things to note: New yaml includes the potential for lttp shop randomization, which seems pretty fine based on some generation + spoiler logs I looked atI converted it to a multi-world yaml, with one lttp and one v6 world inside the single file (If you want to do this, take a single-world yaml, put --- (three dashes) at the end of it, then past another single-world yaml below it)For anybody who's keeping their own yaml (IIRC this is at least Sheep?), note that the latest release changed progression balancing from an on/off to a numeric sliding scale. If you want it to match the old "on", set the value to 50. You can set it to a lower value to still have some degree of balancing, but reduced impact. Or higher if you want the fill to try to keep you ahead of the progression curve (I don't recommend this for async, or at all really)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Isquen 06/05/22 9:00:40 AM #5:	God, this looks interesting, but my availability is such ass. :( --- [Earthshaker] <cite>Isquen posted [p:965558852] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>God, this looks interesting, but my availability is such ass. :( </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 06/05/22 9:37:14 AM #6:	Isquen posted... God, this looks interesting, but my availability is such ass. :( That's the beautiful part of playing asynchronously. One game probably takes about 3-4 hours (Could easily be less though, depending on the specific game you're playing and how the randomizer shakes out), and these generally take us somewhere between 4-7 days. You just play whenever you want/can until you're done, and it doesn't rely on you to be available at specific times or even at the same time as other people. There's almost no chance you'll be able to finish your game in one sitting, so it'll get broken up into smaller sessions of, say, maybe 15-20 minutes each. Once you've done everything you can with what the randomizer's given you, you can just check in after a few hours to see if the situation has changed and there's more you can do If you're saying that your availability is less than that though, then that's just an oof and you have my condolences for being so busy. <cite>Reg posted [p:965559435] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Isquen posted... </cite> <quote>God, this looks interesting, but my availability is such ass. :(</quote>That's the beautiful part of playing asynchronously. One game probably takes about 3-4 hours (Could easily be less though, depending on the specific game you're playing and how the randomizer shakes out), and these generally take us somewhere between 4-7 days. You just play whenever you want/can until you're done, and it doesn't rely on you to be available at specific times or even at the same time as other people. There's almost no chance you'll be able to finish your game in one sitting, so it'll get broken up into smaller sessions of, say, maybe 15-20 minutes each. Once you've done everything you can with what the randomizer's given you, you can just check in after a few hours to see if the situation has changed and there's more you can do If you're saying that your availability is less than that though, then that's just an oof and you have my condolences for being so busy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chrono007 06/05/22 2:34:59 PM #7:	Sign me up for SMZ3, default settings. --- "If A is success in life, then A = x + y + z. Work is x, play is y and z is keeping your mouth shut." --Albert Einstein <cite>Chrono007 posted [p:965565443] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Sign me up for SMZ3, default settings. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robazoid 06/05/22 3:08:47 PM #8:	Like Reg said, it doesn't matter if you aren't available 24/7. All I'd ask is that you be available for at least an hour or two on the first weekend (Monday at the latest) because each game's early checks often contain at least something important for someone else. Then you can return whenever you have time during the week. Robazoid (Hollow Knight) Reg (LTTP) yaml received Reg (VVVVVV) yaml received Chrono007 (SMZ3) default settings --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:965566205] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Like Reg said, it doesn't matter if you aren't available 24/7. All I'd ask is that you be available for at least an hour or two on the first weekend (Monday at the latest) because each game's early checks often contain at least something important for someone else. Then you can return whenever you have time during the week. Robazoid (Hollow Knight)Reg (LTTP) yaml receivedReg (VVVVVV) yaml receivedChrono007 (SMZ3) default settings</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aecioo 06/05/22 3:13:33 PM #9:	In for Rogue Legacy --- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ <cite>Aecioo posted [p:965566315] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>In for Rogue Legacy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 06/05/22 3:18:47 PM #10:	tentative for sa2 but we'll see --- Kneel... or you will be knelt <cite>NFUN posted [p:965566432] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>tentative for sa2 but we'll see </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JeffreyRaze 06/05/22 6:09:04 PM #11:	Put me in for HK and OoT, yamls are in the discord. --- JeffRaze, for all your random spellcasting needs <cite>JeffreyRaze posted [p:965570186] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Put me in for HK and OoT, yamls are in the discord. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mobilezoid 06/06/22 2:14:25 PM #12:	1- Robazoid (Hollow Knight) 2- Reg (LTTP) yaml received 3- Reg (VVVVVV) yaml received 4- Chrono007 (SMZ3) default settings 5- Razenclaf (Starcraft 2) yaml received 6- Aecioo (Rogue Legacy) presumably default 7- JeffreyRaze (OoT) yaml received 8- JeffreyRaze (Hollow Knight) yaml received ----- NFUN (Sonic) maybe Tom Bombadil (???) --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D (On mobile) <cite>Mobilezoid posted [p:965590830] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>1- Robazoid (Hollow Knight) 2- Reg (LTTP) yaml received 3- Reg (VVVVVV) yaml received 4- Chrono007 (SMZ3) default settings 5- Razenclaf (Starcraft 2) yaml received 6- Aecioo (Rogue Legacy) presumably default 7- JeffreyRaze (OoT) yaml received 8- JeffreyRaze (Hollow Knight) yaml received ----- NFUN (Sonic) maybe Tom Bombadil (???) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grapple M1 06/06/22 5:21:58 PM #13:	How does SM64 work in a multi randomizer? --- Like a midget at a urinal, I was going to have to stay on my toes. <cite>Grapple M1 posted [p:965595971] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>How does SM64 work in a multi randomizer? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mobilezoid 06/06/22 5:25:44 PM #14:	Grapple M1 posted... How does SM64 work in a multi randomizer? I haven't played it, but stars are randomized, so when you get a star it's an item for someone and other people send you stars. You still need to receive 70 to reach Bowser. I think other stuff might be shuffled too, like keys, caps, and even cannon access, but those might be optional settings --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D (On mobile) <cite>Mobilezoid posted [p:965596060] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Grapple M1 posted... </cite> <quote>How does SM64 work in a multi randomizer?</quote>I haven't played it, but stars are randomized, so when you get a star it's an item for someone and other people send you stars. You still need to receive 70 to reach Bowser. I think other stuff might be shuffled too, like keys, caps, and even cannon access, but those might be optional settings </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MegamanX 06/06/22 5:31:39 PM #15:	what time on the 11th --- XBL/PSN/:StingX2 Switch: 0675-3724-0313 <cite>MegamanX posted [p:965596206] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>what time on the 11th </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mobilezoid 06/06/22 5:33:12 PM #16:	MegamanX posted... what time on the 11th I do it around 11 am PST, which is noon my timezone, but so long as you're available sometime that weekend it doesn't matter when you start --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D (On mobile) <cite>Mobilezoid posted [p:965596253] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>MegamanX posted... </cite> <quote>what time on the 11th</quote>I do it around 11 am PST, which is noon my timezone, but so long as you're available sometime that weekend it doesn't matter when you start </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MegamanX 06/06/22 5:45:34 PM #17:	Oh I've never done one that doesnt end the same night how does that work? --- XBL/PSN/:StingX2 Switch: 0675-3724-0313 <cite>MegamanX posted [p:965596548] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Oh I've never done one that doesnt end the same night how does that work? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mobilezoid 06/06/22 5:48:17 PM #18:	MegamanX posted... Oh I've never done one that doesnt end the same night how does that work? We'll be doing this asynchronously, so people can play whenever they have time. Items sent out are saved in the Archipelago server, so when people join they'll get any new stuff and anything they send gets sent out when that player joins. --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D (On mobile) <cite>Mobilezoid posted [p:965596618] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>MegamanX posted... </cite> <quote>Oh I've never done one that doesnt end the same night how does that work?</quote>We'll be doing this asynchronously, so people can play whenever they have time. Items sent out are saved in the Archipelago server, so when people join they'll get any new stuff and anything they send gets sent out when that player joins. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MegamanX 06/06/22 7:09:34 PM #19:	Mobilezoid posted... We'll be doing this asynchronously, so people can play whenever they have time. Items sent out are saved in the Archipelago server, so when people join they'll get any new stuff and anything they send gets sent out when that player joins. oh wow its like civ by mail --- XBL/PSN/:StingX2 Switch: 0675-3724-0313 <cite>MegamanX posted [p:965598446] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Mobilezoid posted... </cite> <quote>We'll be doing this asynchronously, so people can play whenever they have time. Items sent out are saved in the Archipelago server, so when people join they'll get any new stuff and anything they send gets sent out when that player joins.</quote>oh wow its like civ by mail </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MegamanX 06/06/22 7:12:44 PM #20:	I'll join with Ocarina of Time, ill post my yaml in the discord --- XBL/PSN/:StingX2 Switch: 0675-3724-0313 <cite>MegamanX posted [p:965598525] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>I'll join with Ocarina of Time, ill post my yaml in the discord </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 06/07/22 1:08:06 PM #21:	I'm in for another OoT. I posted the yaml in the discord. --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:965616738] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>I'm in for another OoT. I posted the yaml in the discord. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 06/07/22 1:44:50 PM #22:	MegamanX posted... oh wow its like civ by mail This actually isn't the worst comparison, if you think about it as everybody able to take their turns simultaneously and/or just auto-pass without any input. It's a fully cooperative thing, though. <cite>Reg posted [p:965617735] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>MegamanX posted... </cite> <quote>oh wow its like civ by mail</quote>This actually isn't the worst comparison, if you think about it as everybody able to take their turns simultaneously and/or just auto-pass without any input. It's a fully cooperative thing, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MegamanX 06/07/22 7:32:16 PM #23:	Reg posted... This actually isn't the worst comparison, if you think about it as everybody able to take their turns simultaneously and/or just auto-pass without any input. It's a fully cooperative thing, though. I do a regular one of these every saturday night with a twitch group, so I'm def familiar with it --- XBL/PSN/:StingX2 Switch: 0675-3724-0313 <cite>MegamanX posted [p:965626238] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Reg posted... </cite> <quote>This actually isn't the worst comparison, if you think about it as everybody able to take their turns simultaneously and/or just auto-pass without any input. It's a fully cooperative thing, though.</quote>I do a regular one of these every saturday night with a twitch group, so I'm def familiar with it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mobilezoid 06/08/22 5:21:29 PM #24:	1- Robazoid (Hollow Knight) 2- Reg (LTTP) yaml received 3- Reg (VVVVVV) yaml received 4- Chrono007 (SMZ3) default settings 5- Razenclaf (Starcraft 2) yaml received 6- Aecioo (Rogue Legacy) presumably default 7- JeffreyRaze (OoT) yaml received 8- JeffreyRaze (Hollow Knight) yaml received 9- MegamanX (OoT) yaml received 10- Mewtwo59 (OoT) yaml received ----- NFUN (Sonic) maybe Tom Bombadil (???) --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D (On mobile) <cite>Mobilezoid posted [p:965649457] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>1- Robazoid (Hollow Knight) 2- Reg (LTTP) yaml received 3- Reg (VVVVVV) yaml received 4- Chrono007 (SMZ3) default settings 5- Razenclaf (Starcraft 2) yaml received 6- Aecioo (Rogue Legacy) presumably default 7- JeffreyRaze (OoT) yaml received 8- JeffreyRaze (Hollow Knight) yaml received 9- MegamanX (OoT) yaml received 10- Mewtwo59 (OoT) yaml received ----- NFUN (Sonic) maybe Tom Bombadil (???) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robazoid 06/10/22 1:31:28 PM #25:	A little over 24 hours until we can start! 1- Robazoid (Hollow Knight) 2- Reg (LTTP) yaml received 3- Reg (VVVVVV) yaml received 4- Chrono007 (SMZ3) default settings 5- Razenclaf (Starcraft 2) yaml received 6- Aecioo (Rogue Legacy) presumably default 7- JeffreyRaze (OoT) yaml received 8- JeffreyRaze (Hollow Knight) yaml received 9- MegamanX (OoT) yaml received 10- Mewtwo59 (OoT) yaml received 11- Tom Bombadil (OoT) yaml received 12- Tom Bombadil (Slay the Spire) yaml received ----- NFUN (Sonic) maybe --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:965699547] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>A little over 24 hours until we can start! 1- Robazoid (Hollow Knight) 2- Reg (LTTP) yaml received 3- Reg (VVVVVV) yaml received 4- Chrono007 (SMZ3) default settings 5- Razenclaf (Starcraft 2) yaml received 6- Aecioo (Rogue Legacy) presumably default 7- JeffreyRaze (OoT) yaml received 8- JeffreyRaze (Hollow Knight) yaml received 9- MegamanX (OoT) yaml received 10- Mewtwo59 (OoT) yaml received 11- Tom Bombadil (OoT) yaml received 12- Tom Bombadil (Slay the Spire) yaml received ----- NFUN (Sonic) maybe </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HBJDubs 06/10/22 9:00:25 PM #26:	Sorry about not finishing the last multiworld, I found out the hard way that saves do not transfer across different PCs, and by the time I got back home everyone else had finished (don't know how to forfeit from Timespinner either). Really want to do Sonic but I don't have it yet on PC, gonna wait for a sale. So I'll go back to Super Metroid. I joined the discord and sent the yaml file there. This time I'll rando the starting location and leaving it up to chance whether the boss locations are randomized or stay vanilla --- Save in the name of true love ~Project 1000~ <cite>HBJDubs posted [p:965711161] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Sorry about not finishing the last multiworld, I found out the hard way that saves do not transfer across different PCs, and by the time I got back home everyone else had finished (don't know how to forfeit from Timespinner either). Really want to do Sonic but I don't have it yet on PC, gonna wait for a sale. So I'll go back to Super Metroid. I joined the discord and sent the yaml file there. This time I'll rando the starting location and leaving it up to chance whether the boss locations are randomized or stay vanilla </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mobilezoid 06/10/22 9:48:04 PM #27:	No worries, everyone else was done by then so it isn't like you held anyone back! @NFUN figured I'd ping you to see if you want in or not. I'll do a test multiworld generation tonight to confirm these all work. 1- Robazoid (Hollow Knight) 2- Reg (LTTP) yaml received 3- Reg (VVVVVV) yaml received 4- Chrono007 (SMZ3) default settings 5- Razenclaf (Starcraft 2) yaml received 6- Aecioo (Rogue Legacy) presumably default 7- JeffreyRaze (OoT) yaml received 8- JeffreyRaze (Hollow Knight) yaml received 9- MegamanX (OoT) yaml received 10- Mewtwo59 (OoT) yaml received 11- Tom Bombadil (OoT) yaml received 12- Tom Bombadil (Slay the Spire) yaml received 13- HBJDubs (Super Metroid) yaml received 14- Sheep007 (some game, you sent it on Discord and I can't check yamls on my phone) yaml received ----- NFUN (Sonic) maybe --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D (On mobile) <cite>Mobilezoid posted [p:965712286] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>No worries, everyone else was done by then so it isn't like you held anyone back! @NFUN figured I'd ping you to see if you want in or not. I'll do a test multiworld generation tonight to confirm these all work. 1- Robazoid (Hollow Knight) 2- Reg (LTTP) yaml received 3- Reg (VVVVVV) yaml received 4- Chrono007 (SMZ3) default settings 5- Razenclaf (Starcraft 2) yaml received 6- Aecioo (Rogue Legacy) presumably default 7- JeffreyRaze (OoT) yaml received 8- JeffreyRaze (Hollow Knight) yaml received 9- MegamanX (OoT) yaml received 10- Mewtwo59 (OoT) yaml received 11- Tom Bombadil (OoT) yaml received 12- Tom Bombadil (Slay the Spire) yaml received 13- HBJDubs (Super Metroid) yaml received 14- Sheep007 (some game, you sent it on Discord and I can't check yamls on my phone) yaml received ----- NFUN (Sonic) maybe </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 06/10/22 9:49:23 PM #28:	nope --- Kneel... or you will be knelt <cite>NFUN posted [p:965712319] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>nope </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lolo_Guru 06/11/22 4:01:30 AM #29:	Rogue Legacy, Hollow Knight, and Secret of Evermore yaml added to discord. --- Lolo <cite>Lolo_Guru posted [p:965718107] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Rogue Legacy, Hollow Knight, and Secret of Evermore yaml added to discord. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mobilezoid 06/11/22 1:11:00 PM #30:	That brings us to 17 games! I did a test generation last night with everything but the Lolo games and it worked. It took a really long time though, OoT really slows it down for some reason and with this many OoTs it took like half an hour. So the cutoff for joining is twenty minutes from now! After that I'll be generating the multiworld to hopefully post it within an hour from now --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D (On mobile) <cite>Mobilezoid posted [p:965725523] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>That brings us to 17 games! I did a test generation last night with everything but the Lolo games and it worked. It took a really long time though, OoT really slows it down for some reason and with this many OoTs it took like half an hour. So the cutoff for joining is twenty minutes from now! After that I'll be generating the multiworld to hopefully post it within an hour from now </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 06/11/22 1:12:53 PM #31:	Something to keep in mind is that you have to roll locally and upload to the site if you want to have more than 20 worlds. Not likely to be an issue this time with a 20 minute deadline and 17 worlds, but for the future maybe, since we've got a few people who expressed interest but didn't wind up joining. <cite>Reg posted [p:965725561] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Something to keep in mind is that you have to roll locally and upload to the site if you want to have more than 20 worlds. Not likely to be an issue this time with a 20 minute deadline and 17 worlds, but for the future maybe, since we've got a few people who expressed interest but didn't wind up joining. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lolo_Guru 06/11/22 1:45:01 PM #32:	OoT is slow because it has a lot of checks locked behind a combination of other checks, like a lot a lot. --- Lolo <cite>Lolo_Guru posted [p:965726232] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>OoT is slow because it has a lot of checks locked behind a combination of other checks, like a lot a lot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 06/11/22 1:46:21 PM #33:	Lolo_Guru posted... OoT is slow because it has a lot of checks locked behind a combination of other checks, like a lot a lot. I don't know if anybody here is using it, but I also know that OOT Entrance Randomizer is rather frail. Can cause outright failures in a lot of situations, but iirc it's slow even when successful, largely because of this <cite>Reg posted [p:965726273] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Lolo_Guru posted... </cite> <quote>OoT is slow because it has a lot of checks locked behind a combination of other checks, like a lot a lot.</quote>I don't know if anybody here is using it, but I also know that OOT Entrance Randomizer is rather frail. Can cause outright failures in a lot of situations, but iirc it's slow even when successful, largely because of this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 06/11/22 1:48:22 PM #34:	I'm doing a dungeon entrance shuffle, and Megaman has a bunch of different entrance shufflers enabled. Probably doesn't help that we both did shop and scrubsanity and Megaman also did skullsanity. --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:965726305] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>I'm doing a dungeon entrance shuffle, and Megaman has a bunch of different entrance shufflers enabled. Probably doesn't help that we both did shop and scrubsanity and Megaman also did skullsanity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robazoid 06/11/22 1:53:57 PM #35:	ROOM LINK: https://archipelago.gg/room/J4JIcT-ATY2_lcooOpW67A There it is, have fun everyone! Remember that the room goes dormant after 6 hours of inactivity, but all you need to do is refresh the room page and it'll start up again. It's a good idea to do that before playing just to be sure. We have two new people participating this time, so I hope you don't have any trouble following the setup guides on the Archipelago website and getting connected. You'll probably have at least an item or two coming your way pretty quick after this starts, so if you begin playing and don't receive anything there might be a problem. --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:965726419] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>ROOM LINK: https://archipelago.gg/room/J4JIcT-ATY2_lcooOpW67A There it is, have fun everyone! Remember that the room goes dormant after 6 hours of inactivity, but all you need to do is refresh the room page and it'll start up again. It's a good idea to do that before playing just to be sure. We have two new people participating this time, so I hope you don't have any trouble following the setup guides on the Archipelago website and getting connected. You'll probably have at least an item or two coming your way pretty quick after this starts, so if you begin playing and don't receive anything there might be a problem. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robazoid 06/12/22 1:46:22 AM #36:	We've had a good bit of progress today! In my Hollow Knight, I only have Mantis Claw, Descending Dark, Isma's Tear, and Lumafly Lantern, which is an odd combination. I've gotten to most places in the game but without dash or double jump I've been limited in how much I can get. Still, I think I've done pretty good for day one --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:965740691] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>We've had a good bit of progress today! In my Hollow Knight, I only have Mantis Claw, Descending Dark, Isma's Tear, and Lumafly Lantern, which is an odd combination. I've gotten to most places in the game but without dash or double jump I've been limited in how much I can get. Still, I think I've done pretty good for day one </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KommunistKoala 06/12/22 10:39:14 PM #37:	finally trying this with friends. should be able to join the next one here! --- does anyone even read this <cite>KommunistKoala posted [p:965765762] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>finally trying this with friends. should be able to join the next one here! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chrono007 06/12/22 10:52:36 PM #38:	I could use... * Aecioo: Castle Hamson - Chest 10 (my moon pearl) * Ariacarina: Market Bombchu Item 5 (my glove 1) * Ariacarina: Market Bombchu Item 6 (my glove 2) if anyone has a chance :o --- "If A is success in life, then A = x + y + z. Work is x, play is y and z is keeping your mouth shut." --Albert Einstein <cite>Chrono007 posted [p:965765980] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>I could use... * Aecioo: Castle Hamson - Chest 10 (my moon pearl) * Ariacarina: Market Bombchu Item 5 (my glove 1) * Ariacarina: Market Bombchu Item 6 (my glove 2) if anyone has a chance :o </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robazoid 06/12/22 11:13:50 PM #39:	I finished my Hollow Knight! And Lolo finished his HK and Rogue Legacy. I'm going to @Aecioo too because I realize he isn't on the discord and may not know this started. Obviously if you just haven't had time to start yet, that's fine too! --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:965766408] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>I finished my Hollow Knight! And Lolo finished his HK and Rogue Legacy. I'm going to @Aecioo too because I realize he isn't on the discord and may not know this started. Obviously if you just haven't had time to start yet, that's fine too! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lolo_Guru 06/12/22 11:56:47 PM #40:	Finished both Hollow Knight and Rogue Legacy. I believe I'm a Wheel and a Diamond Eye from starting the endgame in Secret of Evermore, but Levitate or a Knight Basher would also get me checks. --- Lolo <cite>Lolo_Guru posted [p:965767203] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Finished both Hollow Knight and Rogue Legacy. I believe I'm a Wheel and a Diamond Eye from starting the endgame in Secret of Evermore, but Levitate or a Knight Basher would also get me checks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 06/13/22 12:22:10 AM #41:	oot beated, and by "beated" I mean "mostly I screwed around failing dungeons while other people found my stuff" --- I consider it a challenge before the whole human race, and I ain't gonna lose (she/her, pronouns in sig oh noes) <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:965767633] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>oot beated, and by "beated" I mean "mostly I screwed around failing dungeons while other people found my stuff" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chrono007 06/13/22 1:18:59 AM #42:	What are "triforce pieces" that I'm sending to Ariacarina? Are they hard required to beat the game? (I feel like I've sent a bunch <_<.) --- "If A is success in life, then A = x + y + z. Work is x, play is y and z is keeping your mouth shut." --Albert Einstein <cite>Chrono007 posted [p:965768582] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>What are "triforce pieces" that I'm sending to Ariacarina? Are they hard required to beat the game? (I feel like I've sent a bunch <_<.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robazoid 06/13/22 1:22:11 AM #43:	Aria (aka Tom Bombadil) needed 30 to win, but she just beat her game an hour ago so any more aren't needed --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:965768626] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Aria (aka Tom Bombadil) needed 30 to win, but she just beat her game an hour ago so any more aren't needed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 06/13/22 7:35:53 AM #44:	Chrono007 posted... What are "triforce pieces" that I'm sending to Ariacarina? Are they hard required to beat the game? (I feel like I've sent a bunch <_<.) In general, it's an alternate goal that both Ocarina of Time and Link to the Past support, where you find X (Generally 20 or 30 in my experience) pieces out of Y (Usually X+10) available, and once you find the specified amount you win, potentially without having to kill a single boss I don't think SMZ3 supports it, but it might. <cite>Reg posted [p:965771985] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Chrono007 posted... </cite> <quote>What are "triforce pieces" that I'm sending to Ariacarina? Are they hard required to beat the game? (I feel like I've sent a bunch <_<.)</quote>In general, it's an alternate goal that both Ocarina of Time and Link to the Past support, where you find X (Generally 20 or 30 in my experience) pieces out of Y (Usually X+10) available, and once you find the specified amount you win, potentially without having to kill a single boss I don't think SMZ3 supports it, but it might. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chrono007 06/13/22 11:13:34 AM #45:	Interesting... thanks. (You collect the last piece you win? No final boss, just walk into the pyramid in the dark world and walk through the exit to the triforce room?) --- "If A is success in life, then A = x + y + z. Work is x, play is y and z is keeping your mouth shut." --Albert Einstein <cite>Chrono007 posted [p:965775426] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Interesting... thanks. (You collect the last piece you win? No final boss, just walk into the pyramid in the dark world and walk through the exit to the triforce room?) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 06/13/22 11:45:59 AM #46:	Chrono007 posted... Interesting... thanks. (You collect the last piece you win? No final boss, just walk into the pyramid in the dark world and walk through the exit to the triforce room?) Older versions of lttp were just "you win instantly, warp to triforce room". Newer versions added a guy outside of Hyrule Castle that warps you to triforce room because some people didn't like it being instant. I think OoT is just the same "instant win, warp to credits", but not 100% sure. @Tom_Bombadil can confirm though <cite>Reg posted [p:965776103] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Chrono007 posted... </cite> <quote>Interesting... thanks. (You collect the last piece you win? No final boss, just walk into the pyramid in the dark world and walk through the exit to the triforce room?)</quote>Older versions of lttp were just "you win instantly, warp to triforce room". Newer versions added a guy outside of Hyrule Castle that warps you to triforce room because some people didn't like it being instant. I think OoT is just the same "instant win, warp to credits", but not 100% sure. @Tom_Bombadil can confirm though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 06/13/22 11:49:37 AM #47:	Yep, it just skipped straight from "you logged in, have a bunch of free crap" to Ganon getting yeeted --- I consider it a challenge before the whole human race, and I ain't gonna lose (she/her, pronouns in sig oh noes) <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:965776178] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Yep, it just skipped straight from "you logged in, have a bunch of free crap" to Ganon getting yeeted </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HBJDubs 06/13/22 10:44:40 PM #48:	SM done, ice beam and spazer were the only two items missing. Somehow with random starting area on I still ended up starting at the ship. I wonder if that's more likely to happen if I have early morph ball on --- Save in the name of true love ~Project 1000~ <cite>HBJDubs posted [p:965794133] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>SM done, ice beam and spazer were the only two items missing. Somehow with random starting area on I still ended up starting at the ship. I wonder if that's more likely to happen if I have early morph ball on </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chrono007 06/13/22 11:30:31 PM #49:	I've beat 3 SM bosses, one lttp dungeon. I think I need the moon pearl to proceed though (doesn't look like anyone needs anything in my non-required dungeons yet -- at least on the hints). Edit: oh yeah! someone gave me bombs, so I can do the CF clip to botwoon. SM down. --- "If A is success in life, then A = x + y + z. Work is x, play is y and z is keeping your mouth shut." --Albert Einstein <cite>Chrono007 posted [p:965795231] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>I've beat 3 SM bosses, one lttp dungeon. I think I need the moon pearl to proceed though (doesn't look like anyone needs anything in my non-required dungeons yet -- at least on the hints). Edit: oh yeah! someone gave me bombs, so I can do the CF clip to botwoon. SM down. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robazoid 06/14/22 1:03:07 AM #50:	Well I even sent Aecioo a PM that was read a few hours ago and got no response. I don't want to rush anyone but I think it's reasonable to at least expect someone to check in and say when they expect to start. Since we have people waiting for items from that Rogue Legacy, I vote we either forfeit or have someone else take that slot over if we don't hear anything by tomorrow. --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:965796925] in Monthly Mu... [t:80045431]...</cite> <quote>Well I even sent Aecioo a PM that was read a few hours ago and got no response. I don't want to rush anyone but I think it's reasonable to at least expect someone to check in and say when they expect to start. Since we have people waiting for items from that Rogue Legacy, I vote we either forfeit or have someone else take that slot over if we don't hear anything by tomorrow. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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