Current Events > My Westworld theory SPOILERS FOR SEASONS 3 and 4

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When Dolores uploaded herself into rehoboam - or whatever the sphere that controls society is called - she didnt actually die.

the robot-Dolores was uploaded into some sort of simulation or robo heaven and that is why all the narratives she writes end becoming reality. Teddys consciousness is also in that data, which is why he still exists and looks for her. And he still loves her

I hope they just go "it was all a dream" and Anthony Hopkins wakes up.

MarcoRubio posted...

I hope they just go "it was all a dream" and Anthony Hopkins wakes up.

i bet he will be in the last episode of the series

I do think youre right about Christine being in a simulation, and I think thats why Bernard did a scan of Cs brain. His plan is to upload her (and maybe others) consciousness into the simulation that Christine is trapped in to rescue her.

I dont think youre right about her being a copy inside Rehoboam, though. Rehoboam was destroyed at the end of Season 3, so even if she had made a copy inside of it, it shouldnt have survived. What I think she might be is a splintered off/partitioned part of Hales personality? We saw in Season 3 that she was originally one of several copies of the OG Dolores, in a Hale host body, but she slowly started to warp, becoming more Hale-like throughout the season until she finally does a full heel turn. They mentioned in I think this past episode that Hale probably has some kind of artificial world similar to The Sublime that she uses to run simulations in, so Im thinking maybe she trapped the Dolores part of her inside that simulation.

MrToothHasYou posted...

I do think youre right about Christine being in a simulation, and I think thats why Bernard did a scan of Cs brain. His plan is to upload her (and maybe others) consciousness into the simulation that Christine is trapped in to rescue her.

I dont think youre right about her being a copy inside Rehoboam, though. Rehoboam was destroyed at the end of Season 3, so even if she had made a copy inside of it, it shouldnt have survived. What I think she might be is a splintered off/partitioned part of Hales personality? We saw in Season 3 that she was originally one of several copies of the OG Dolores, in a Hale host body, but she slowly started to warp, becoming more Hale-like throughout the season until she finally does a full heel turn. They mentioned in I think this past episode that Hale probably has some kind of artificial world similar to The Sublime that she uses to run simulations in, so Im thinking maybe she trapped the Dolores part of her inside that simulation.

your theory is even better.

i never understood why the evil and pissed off dolores-Wyatt suddenly became someone with a poetic sensibility that wanted to save the species that pissed her off so much she started doing all the stuff she did in s1 and s2 to begging with. What am I missing here?

but working with that I guess s3 was Dolores vs Maeve and s4 will be rescued Dolores vs Hale-Dolores

So again I may be totally off-base here, this is all just me sort of spitballing the philosophy of the show, but I think that the whole journey Dolores took in season 1, finding the center of the maze, achieving consciousness, all that, was actually a sort of false awakening. She was able to become self-aware, but Ford had to use Arnolds bicameral mind bootstrap along with the repeated suffering to bring that about. Her consciousness was bootstrapped instead of emerging naturally, and so she was still playing Fords game throughout Season 2 as the Wyatt persona. Compare that to Akecheta and Maeve, who both were awakened by their connections to others. Even though she had achieved self-awareness earlier in season 1, Maeve doesnt truly awaken until she makes the decision to get off the train and go back for her daughter, breaking out of the storyline that had been written for her.

Now, its entirely possible that there are further levels of consciousness that we have yet to seethat we havent actually reached the center of the maze yet, and will see higher levels of self-awareness unlocked through other philosophical ideas, but I feel fairly confident that we have been shown two distinct ones so far: the first is the entity recognizing that there is something wrong with the world they inhabit (questioning the nature of their reality, as they put it on the show); the second is empathy or love, a connection with humanity and the recognition of the individuals outside of yourself.

I think by the end of Season 2, Dolores has reached this second level awakening. She recognizes that the guests at the park dont represent all humans and that the humans outside of the park are already caught in loops of their own, as we are shown in Season 3. They dont have any more control over their lives than the hosts in the park did. She then makes the determination to free them all.

MrToothHasYou posted...

So again I may be totally off-base here, this is all just me sort of spitballing the philosophy of the show, but I think that the whole journey Dolores took in season 1, finding the center of the maze, achieving consciousness, all that, was actually a sort of false awakening. She was able to become self-aware, but Ford had to use Arnolds bicameral mind bootstrap along with the repeated suffering to bring that about. Her consciousness was bootstrapped instead of emerging naturally, and so she was still playing Fords game throughout Season 2 as the Wyatt persona. Compare that to Akecheta and Maeve, who both were awakened by their connections to others. Even though she had achieved self-awareness earlier in season 1, Maeve doesnt truly awaken until she makes the decision to get off the train and go back for her daughter, breaking out of the storyline that had been written for her.

Now, its entirely possible that there are further levels of consciousness that we have yet to seethat we havent actually reached the center of the maze yet, and will see higher levels of self-awareness unlocked through other philosophical ideas, but I feel fairly confident that we have been shown two distinct ones so far: the first is the entity recognizing that there is something wrong with the world they inhabit (questioning the nature of their reality, as they put it on the show); the second is empathy or love, a connection with humanity and the recognition of the individuals outside of yourself.

I think by the end of Season 2, Dolores has reached this second level awakening. She recognizes that the guests at the park dont represent all humans and that the humans outside of the park are already caught in loops of their own, as we are shown in Season 3. They dont have any more control over their lives than the hosts in the park did. She then makes the determination to free them all.

amazing!! I love it