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papercup
10/06/22 1:45:45 PM
#51:


adjl posted...
They recognize them just fine. They just choose not to care.
This

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papercup
10/06/22 6:13:40 PM
#52:


I sat in queue for 70 minutes. Played for 5 minutes, and they took the servers down for maintenance. And they're down for the rest of the day basically. Blizzard, please. Do this at like 2 in the morning when everyone is asleep, not during primetime.

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Cruddy_horse
10/06/22 6:27:20 PM
#53:


Yeah they didn't even anounce it, even old games would have Messages that go out telling you when it closed for maintenece.

Sat through 1000 queue just to DC before I finished a game.
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papercup
10/06/22 11:06:50 PM
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If you did all of your weekly challenges every single week, it would take 5 years to get enough currency to unlock all of Kiriko's cosmetics. Why the fuck are people defending this. Someone told me I was being greedy and expecting to get everything for free. Yeah. I fucking am expecting to get this for free. Because I already fucking paid for the game 6 years ago, and they've always done free content updates.

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papercup
10/06/22 11:18:56 PM
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https://i.redd.it/jusdr73eg9s91.png There's little guys doing A-poses on the Illios loading screen now XD

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Cruddy_horse
10/07/22 4:17:51 AM
#56:


It's insane how little this game does to justify it's "2" title, I've seen seasonal updates that bring more to the table than this supposed "sequel."

I remember Jeff Kaplan gettin onstage and saying OW2 would redefine what a sequel is, but idk maybe he was right in some twisted way.
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adjl
10/07/22 8:28:29 AM
#57:


papercup posted...
Why the f*** are people defending this.

  • Because it's become normalized to the point that a lot of people just don't see it as being that crazy by comparison (because that comparison is to similar practices that would have been unacceptable a decade ago)
  • Because getting mad about it interferes with their ability to mindlessly consume the entertainment they want to mindlessly consume
  • Because an unhealthy percentage of their identity has been built up around defending the games they like, defense which gets extended to sequels by default and can be really hard to step back from

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papercup
10/07/22 12:12:56 PM
#58:


Apparently using the chat functions when in the menus can cause the game the purchase things in your account, even if you have no money. It will put you in a deficit. How the fuck does that even happen lol

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hera
10/07/22 12:42:25 PM
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if a deficit is possible then it sounds intentional

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Blightzkrieg
10/07/22 4:59:25 PM
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papercup posted...
Apparently using the chat functions when in the menus can cause the game the purchase things in your account, even if you have no money. It will put you in a deficit. How the fuck does that even happen lol
Dude why are you even playing

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papercup
10/07/22 5:45:40 PM
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Im mostly morbidly curious to see this. But yeah it really does feel like a downgrade

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Nade_Duck
10/07/22 5:47:04 PM
#62:


pretty sure blizzard's just done pretending at this point tbh

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Blightzkrieg
10/07/22 6:28:05 PM
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If it wasn't important for the brand to insist Blizzard is a "hardcore gamers" company they probably would have never released OW2 at all. It's a marketing gimmick, not one of their actual cash cows or serious projects like dontyouguyshavephonesablo


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papercup
10/07/22 6:46:21 PM
#64:


Is Paladins any good?

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Cruddy_horse
10/07/22 6:59:20 PM
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I really hate the gameplay, every payload mode just turns into an extended slugfest, Tanks are unkillable by themselves with a healer they become immortal, The best healers have get-out-of-jail free card abilities and outheal teammates faster than any Damage role can deal damage to them.
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papercup
10/07/22 8:07:33 PM
#66:


Yeah I do not like this game after actually getting to play it for a few hours.

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Cruddy_horse
10/07/22 8:31:26 PM
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papercup posted...
Is Paladins any good?

It's exceptionally mediocre, the production value is so low you'd think it's an indie game made by a fledgeling studio and not a game made 5 years ago, it's not terrible it just feels very neglected and unpolished unlike the devs other game Smite. Matches are so fast you'll just start to have fun and then it will be over, queue times are long if you don't have a premade, Most characters feel like blatant Overwatch knockoffs with 1:1 abilitys, but soem are unique.
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Metalsonic66
10/08/22 9:15:26 AM
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Is Smite still pretty active?

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EvilResident
10/08/22 10:15:02 AM
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https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/10/overwatch-2-player-calculates-5-year-f2p-grind-to-unlock-new-heros-cosmetics

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Metalsonic66
10/08/22 10:19:12 AM
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lol fuck Blizzard

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Nade_Duck
10/08/22 4:09:59 PM
#71:


EvilResident posted...
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/10/overwatch-2-player-calculates-5-year-f2p-grind-to-unlock-new-heros-cosmetics
i needed another reason to continue not playing it.

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papercup
10/08/22 8:39:09 PM
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This game is a fucking broken, unbalanced, unpolished, buggy mess. Mei is literally useless, and her wall breaks her gun. There's no damage falloff. Kiriko's teleport can cause her to fall through the floor into the void and die. Healing feels like it doesn't do a fucking thing. Tanking is actually worse than it was before. While CC was annoying, it was vital to the design of the game. Now the only CCs that really do anything at all are Ana's sleep dart and Orisa's new javelin. Orisa can't fucking die, and has pretty much no cooldown on her OP abilities.

The sound system is fucking broken. Gunshots are way too loud. Sometimes. And sometimes guns don't make a fucking sound at all. Sometimes ult voicelines just don't play at all. I got killed by a BOB today because I literally could not hear Ashe's voiceline, and the death replay showed the same thing, she didn't say anything at all. Just all of a sudden there's a BOB right behind me shooting me. Footprints are either non-existant or they emanate from the fucking ether and you'll hear them all around you even when nobody is there. And the UI. The menus are ugly as shit and now navigating them feels random. Why are health bars circles now, it was so much easier to read the straight bars. When getting healed why are there a billion plus signs all over the screen. Visual clutter much? Why are the menu buttons misaligned. Why are the edges of the buttons pixely. Why does the competitive screen look like that. Why is the end game screen misaligned. Why are there a billion particle effects when firing a gun. Why does this game feel like it was made by unpaid interns.

And don't even get me started on the monetization. Some skins that were free to obtain last week now cost $20. Some skins are just fucking gone with no explanation. Which I can only assume means they're going to re-release them in future battle passes and stick a $20 price tag on them.

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GanonsSpirit
10/08/22 9:07:48 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/7/5/AAMU_8AADwmD.jpg

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Blightzkrieg
10/08/22 9:32:34 PM
#74:


The sound design being awful is really bad to hear.

Sound design was one of the reasons Overwatch was so phenomenal compared to almost every other FPS out there. It was unmatched.

Also I'm not surprised to hear tanking and healing suck now. There's a problem with listening to the community on game balance

-"Balance" inevitably leads to homogenization, with unique builds being made more similar to the default. We first saw this with the split into "tank/support/damage". There was a time early on in the game during pubs where any tank other than Reinhardt wasn't taken seriously, and half the unique damage classes were shit on.

-Listening to opinions on balance leads to taking a hammer to things that "feel" bad rather than things which are actually bad for the game. It feels bad to get stunned by McCree (idk his new name) or to have Mercy revive people, but it leads to faster paced more dynamic gameplay. While I haven't played OW2, I assume it's a lot more of "everybody deathstar around the tank and healer and nobody dies until someone ults".

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ZangsBeard
10/08/22 9:52:49 PM
#75:


So how does cosmetics from Overwatch work? I had Mercys Halloween skin. Would it be available in 2?

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acesxhigh
10/08/22 11:17:36 PM
#76:


ZangsBeard posted...
So how does cosmetics from Overwatch work? I had Mercys Halloween skin. Would it be available in 2?
everything is the same, but it's a good thing you got that skin in OW1 cause it will probably cost $20 now. Blizz got so greedy
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papercup
10/08/22 11:57:30 PM
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Yeah OW1s sound design was absolutely incredible you could tell exactly where someone was based on their footsteps. You can kind of do that now but its hit or miss.

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ZangsBeard
10/09/22 12:09:13 AM
#78:


acesxhigh posted...
everything is the same, but it's a good thing you got that skin in OW1 cause it will probably cost $20 now. Blizz got so greedy

Not sure what you mean by the same. Im just wondering if Ill have it because I had it in 1.

I wish I could have gotten it for $20... lol

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SantaKhala
10/09/22 12:13:30 AM
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Wait, so the $12 I paid for this game through Humble Bundle are now wasted?

Glad I haven't paid a penny to Activision since StarCraft: Remastered.

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acesxhigh
10/09/22 12:22:05 AM
#80:


ZangsBeard posted...
Not sure what you mean by the same. Im just wondering if Ill have it because I had it in 1.

I wish I could have gotten it for $20... lol
yes you will have all the skins. I'm just pointing out they are a lot harder to get now since there are no lootboxes and they got really stingy with currency
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ZangsBeard
10/09/22 4:02:35 AM
#81:


acesxhigh posted...
yes you will have all the skins. I'm just pointing out they are a lot harder to get now since there are no lootboxes and they got really stingy with currency

Ahh, that doesn't matter much to me. I have hardly played since I got that skin the year it came out... what 4, 5 years ago? I just wanted to make sure the one I went out of my way to get was still there.

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Kyuubi4269
10/09/22 4:14:28 AM
#82:


papercup posted...
If you did all of your weekly challenges every single week, it would take 5 years to get enough currency to unlock all of Kiriko's cosmetics. Why the fuck are people defending this. Someone told me I was being greedy and expecting to get everything for free. Yeah. I fucking am expecting to get this for free. Because I already fucking paid for the game 6 years ago, and they've always done free content updates.

The cosmetics are how they fund continuous updates. You may as well say "I have to play for 8 hours to warm up my pizza rolls on my PC, this is a scam!", because that simply isn't how they're meant to work. You can do it, but you'd be fucking stupid to try. It's enough for broke people like you to get your favourite skin by putting in a meaningful amount of hours, they're not meant to be treated like achievements or collectibles.

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KainFourteh
10/09/22 6:50:14 AM
#83:


Well, that's not even remotely surprising.

Stupid people will still buy this crap, so it continues and gets worse.

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papercup
10/09/22 9:24:05 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
The cosmetics are how they fund continuous updates. You may as well say "I have to play for 8 hours to warm up my pizza rolls on my PC, this is a scam!", because that simply isn't how they're meant to work. You can do it, but you'd be fucking stupid to try. It's enough for broke people like you to get your favourite skin by putting in a meaningful amount of hours, they're not meant to be treated like achievements or collectibles.

I can guarantee you, Blizzard is just pocketing the money. And broke people like me? Im not broke, Im just not stupid with my money. And playing every day is not a meaningful amount of hours. If they expect me to play this game like a full time job, they better fucking give me premium currency at a full time jobs wage.

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shadowsword87
10/09/22 9:44:14 AM
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I think Blizzard has turned into a company that resells the same thing. Starcraft Remastered, warcraft 3 reforged, Diablo II: Resurrected, and now Overwatch. With hard ups and downs for if it's worth time/money.

It's horribly sad.
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adjl
10/09/22 11:30:18 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
The cosmetics are how they fund continuous updates.

And yet there are countless games on the market that are able to provide continuous updates without artificially inflating the value of cosmetics by gating them behind arbitrarily insane grinds that make ridiculous price tags seem more reasonable. I guess Blizzard's just less capable of making online multiplayer games than goddamn Nintendo, because all three iterations of Splatoon have avoided such practices.

The cosmetics are how they fund ludicrous executive paycheques and inflate their stock price to make shareholders happy. The continuous updates are just to keep people engaged for longer so there are more opportunities to squeeze money out of them. Characterizing this kind of monetization as anything other than manipulative, predatory greed is either blatant corporate propaganda or an example of staggeringly naive ignorance.

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GanonsSpirit
10/09/22 12:26:18 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
The cosmetics are how they fund continuous updates. You may as well say "I have to play for 8 hours to warm up my pizza rolls on my PC, this is a scam!", because that simply isn't how they're meant to work. You can do it, but you'd be fucking stupid to try. It's enough for broke people like you to get your favourite skin by putting in a meaningful amount of hours, they're not meant to be treated like achievements or collectibles.
lmao, imagine simping for Activision Blizzard.

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hera
10/09/22 12:55:21 PM
#88:


wonder what kyuber thinks about needing like $300,000 to max a character out in Diablo immortal, and it not even being possible to do otherwise.

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EvilMegas
10/09/22 12:57:43 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
The cosmetics are how they fund continuous updates. You may as well say "I have to play for 8 hours to warm up my pizza rolls on my PC, this is a scam!", because that simply isn't how they're meant to work. You can do it, but you'd be fucking stupid to try. It's enough for broke people like you to get your favourite skin by putting in a meaningful amount of hours, they're not meant to be treated like achievements or collectibles.
Lmao what a horrible take.

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Cruddy_horse
10/09/22 1:05:22 PM
#90:


shadowsword87 posted...
I think Blizzard has turned into a company that resells the same thing. Starcraft Remastered, warcraft 3 reforged, Diablo II: Resurrected, and now Overwatch. With hard ups and downs for if it's worth time/money.

It's horribly sad.

To be fair people have begged for a Diablo 2 remaster for the better part of a decade maybe longer. But otherwise yeah.
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hera
10/09/22 1:06:26 PM
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and it sucks

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shadowsword87
10/09/22 1:16:29 PM
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Cruddy_horse posted...
To be fair people have begged for a Diablo 2 remaster for the better part of a decade maybe longer. But otherwise yeah.

People also wanted Warcraft 3 remastered.
And Starcraft Remastered.

I'm not saying that it's bad or isn't worth doing. I am saying that this being all they're doing, is creatively empty.
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ECW_Originals12
10/09/22 1:42:05 PM
#93:


L-O-fucking-L at Overwatch 1 being unplayable now.

You people support this garbage.
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DirtBasedSoap
10/09/22 1:46:35 PM
#94:


Ive never played ow but thats insane that you cant even play the first game anymore

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adjl
10/09/22 1:52:33 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
People also wanted Warcraft 3 remastered.
And Starcraft Remastered.

I'm not saying that it's bad or isn't worth doing. I am saying that this being all they're doing, is creatively empty.

Hey now.

They also made Diablo Immortal. That was original.

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shadowsword87
10/09/22 1:58:17 PM
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Ah, very true, Diablo Immortal, thank you adjl.
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adjl
10/09/22 2:12:25 PM
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Blizzard put as much work into producing Immortal as they did anything else. That they outsourced it to another development team doesn't change that it's a Blizzard product.

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Metalsonic66
10/09/22 3:22:44 PM
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ECW_Originals12 posted...
You people support this garbage.
I guarantee you that I do not

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