Poll of the Day > Biden pardons all federals offenses of simple marijuana possession

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FrozenBananas
10/06/22 9:14:34 PM
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nice we fucking did it ladies and gentleman

https://apnews.com/article/biden-marijuana-government-and-politics-2d5e3d9e2cfbbbe3ee114536738894a8

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/biden-announces-pardons-thousands-convicted-federal-marijuana-possession/story?id=91122888

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faramir77
10/06/22 10:13:33 PM
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I keep forgetting that it's illegal in the US. Seems like the days where it was illegal in Canada are nothing but a fever dream.

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ReturnOfFa
10/06/22 10:15:37 PM
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cue Libertarians and the contrarian online Left somehow willfully ignoring this lmao

good shit

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VampireCoyote
10/06/22 10:16:20 PM
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just legalize it old man

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ZangsBeard
10/06/22 10:17:02 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
cue Libertarians and the contrarian online Left somehow willfully ignoring this lmao

good shit

Wut? Ive seen nothing but complaints of rapists being released by the right and the left applauding this move

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ReturnOfFa
10/06/22 10:20:24 PM
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ZangsBeard posted...
Wut? Ive seen nothing but complaints of rapists being released by the right and the left applauding this move
meh, I might be talking about extremely focused subsections

Libertarians will not be celebrating this, even though they should be because 'muh freedom'. most Libertarians are simply Far-Right in denial, they are not for the 'personal freedoms' that they occasionally espouse. really, they're terminally online these days too. their beliefs aren't based in reality, they're based in theory - theory they are not even keen for when applied to groups other than themselves.

as for the 'Left' I'm addressing, I'm talking about the ones the terminally online Twitter/YouTube weirdos like Russell Brand, Jimmy Dore, Krystal Ball and anyone else that claims to be Left, but spends their entire career dumping on the Democrats while ignoring Republicans. these people are less common in real life, although I do run into them - they are quite prevalent on Twitter, but I'm suspended there lol.

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VampireCoyote
10/06/22 10:23:00 PM
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ZangsBeard posted...
Wut? Ive seen nothing but complaints of rapists being released by the right and the left applauding this move

why would rapists be released over this

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ReturnOfFa
10/06/22 10:23:48 PM
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VampireCoyote posted...
why would rapists be released over this
I think he's just saying that the Right are suggesting rapists are being freed from prison to exaggerate the danger of releasing folks for marijuana possession convictions.

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ZangsBeard
10/06/22 10:24:42 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
Libertarians will not be celebrating this, even though they should be because 'muh freedom'. most Libertarians are simply Far-Right in denial, they are not for the 'personal freedoms' that they occasionally espouse.

So, that boils down to "They're not real libertarians", but yeah, you're mostly talking about extreme minorities that doesn't really mean much.


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ZangsBeard
10/06/22 10:25:20 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
I think he's just saying that the Right are suggesting rapists are being freed from prison to exaggerate the danger of releasing folks for marijuana possession convictions.

This.

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ReturnOfFa
10/06/22 10:26:17 PM
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sorry for answering for you XD

i'm a dumbass politics nerd it is sad

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ZangsBeard
10/06/22 10:26:32 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
sorry for answering for you XD

i'm a dumbass politics nerd it is sad

No worries, you were correct.

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ReturnOfFa
10/06/22 10:31:01 PM
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ZangsBeard posted...
So, that boils down to "They're not real libertarians", but yeah, you're mostly talking about extreme minorities that doesn't really mean much.
Totally. Some players capture an increasingly larger audience though, so I still think it's worth discussing. Kinda like the increase in politicians that believe Q-Anon shit. Obvious minority. Still fucked, that's for sure. And I do think that the Right do try hard to espouse a form of Libertarian 'personal freedom' while consistently contradicting themselves. They're just the same in practice (Right and Libertarian) while almost anyone claiming to be Libertarian is in denial and will easily defer to a Rightwing leader that contradicts their claimed principles.

**Edit, anyways, time to hit the bong again....

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SoreChasm
10/07/22 6:49:25 AM
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The only bong I care to hit is a bongo

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Nichtcrawler-X
10/07/22 5:30:55 PM
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faramir77 posted...
I keep forgetting that it's illegal in the US. Seems like the days where it was illegal in Canada are nothing but a fever dream.

It is illegal everywhere, in part because of certain UN regulations.

Many countries no longer actively prosecute possession and usage, but for countries to actually fully legalize it, some UN regulations need to change.

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SunWuKung420
10/07/22 9:19:07 PM
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Nichtcrawler-X posted...
It is illegal everywhere, in part because of certain UN regulations.

Many countries no longer actively prosecute possession and usage, but for countries to actually fully legalize it, some UN regulations need to change.
In December 2020, the UN voted and removed cannabis as a schedule IV narcotic.

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ZangsBeard
10/07/22 9:21:26 PM
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Nichtcrawler-X posted...
It is illegal everywhere, in part because of certain UN regulations.

Many countries no longer actively prosecute possession and usage, but for countries to actually fully legalize it, some UN regulations need to change.

So in other words, it's legal in a lot of places because the UN doesn't actually do anything.

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GanglyKhan
10/07/22 10:00:18 PM
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The media and politicians are really fooling people into believing there isn't a single GOP-voting pot smoker lmao
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Nichtcrawler-X
10/08/22 8:59:41 AM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
In December 2020, the UN voted and removed cannabis as a schedule IV narcotic.

The news could have made a bigger deal about it, but it is a good development.

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adjl
10/08/22 10:36:15 AM
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GanglyKhan posted...
The media and politicians are really fooling people into believing there isn't a single GOP-voting pot smoker lmao

That's probably actually a significant part of the reasoning behind the pardon. The GOP now has two options:
  • Condemn the pardon and vow to do whatever they can to reverse it if they take power in the midterms
  • Don't take a stance on the pardon


If they choose the first, they're going to alienate GOP voters that have or do smoke pot and enjoyed a brief taste of not being criminalized for it, inevitably resulting in some of them jumping ship because they've finally realized how much voting Republican actually hurts them. If they choose the second, they're unlikely to push anyone to vote D, but they are going to piss off their voter base that sees this as a moral failure, quite possibly to the point of discouraging them from voting at all. Either way, it's an easy win for the Demcorats.

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ReturnOfFa
10/08/22 12:57:48 PM
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GanglyKhan posted...
The media and politicians are really fooling people into believing there isn't a single GOP-voting pot smoker lmao
The media? It's the GOP themselves that have convinced themselves that there isn't a single GOP-voting pot smoker. The media notes the prevalence of the general public smoking weed or having tried it rather consistently.

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hera
10/08/22 1:45:42 PM
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r/conservative was actually applauding this move

it turns out that liking weed is a bipartisan thing

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