Board 8 > What the hell is up with ugly games these days

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Lopen
01/09/23 4:11:57 PM
#151:


GranzonEx posted...
This guy literally brought out his 500 volumes of the Encyclopaedia Britannica and flipped through them to copy and paste his argument that a shitty 8 bit system from the 1920s is capable of games better looking than Axiom Verge 2.

Imagine comparing the posts I made to some super complicated Encyclopedia knowledge and thinking you are the one dissing me.

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GranzonEx
01/09/23 4:23:28 PM
#152:


Lopen posted...
Imagine comparing the posts I made to some super complicated Encyclopedia knowledge and thinking you are the one dissing me.
Oh no, you misunderstand me. Subjectively speaking I'm not dissing you, Mr. Encarta. Objectively though... everyone in this topic is rolling their eyes at you, and possibly me as well.

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Lopen
01/09/23 4:26:19 PM
#153:


Okay I'm just saying like I haven't said anything particularly complex in here

If you need an Encarta or an Encyclopedia to understand anything I've said in here you should consider some of your time spent delicately crafting zingers on, you know, learning things

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GranzonEx
01/09/23 4:40:24 PM
#154:


Lopen posted...
Okay I'm just saying like I haven't said anything particularly complex in here

If you need an Encarta or an Encyclopedia to understand anything I've said in here you should consider some of your time spent delicately crafting zingers on, you know, learning things
The only zinger here is you going "um ackchyually" and typing up a light novel which I'm sure the majority of the people in here rolled their eyes at. There's nothing complex about what you said. b8 has been through this phase 15 years ago. The fact that a guy like you, probably in your late 30s at this point, feel the need to "um ackchyually" a bunch of old farts about asinine shit like subjective/objective truths is quite sad.

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Lopen
01/09/23 4:56:48 PM
#155:


Forget it. Go back to working on your zingers full time trying to learn things is overloading you it seems.

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tazzyboyishere
01/09/23 5:29:37 PM
#156:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
I find it moderately interesting that you can predict the exact course of this topic without reading any of the posts.
I skimmed page 1 and saw some of the regulars I associate such topics with, it's really not very interesting, so I'm sorry for moderately letting you down

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tazzyboyishere
01/09/23 5:45:55 PM
#157:


I objectively feel this topic is less about discussing the merits of art and more about what words mean, and becoming weirdly enraged when called out on using said words incorrectly

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Aecioo
01/09/23 6:04:27 PM
#158:


I haven't checked this topic since I posted but it's nice to see we can still have a hundred posts arguing about the most pedantic stuff

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scarletspeed7
01/09/23 6:05:04 PM
#159:


Aecioo posted...
I haven't checked this topic since I posted but it's nice to see we can still have a hundred posts arguing about the most pedantic stuff
How dare you!

It's 150 posts

Let's get pedantic-er

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foolm0r0n
01/09/23 6:16:31 PM
#160:


masterplum posted...
Yeah if there is no such thing as objectively better there is also no such thing as talent
This is from a viral tweet a while ago and it makes no sense.

Talent and skill is clearly measurable when seeing how well an artwork achieves a particular goal. But whether that goal is "good" or not is totally subjective.

You can be a very talented racist caricature drawer. That doesn't make you an objectively good artist.

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azuarc
01/10/23 3:44:13 AM
#161:


Kenri posted...
this post was way funnier when i read it as Bubble Bobble

Oh. That's exactly how I read it and didn't think twice because I hadn't heard of the game either way.

Now I know (or at least presume) there is no sexy bathing female versions of Bib and Bub.

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SeabassDebeste
01/10/23 6:41:15 AM
#162:


looking at a google image search, axiom verge 2 seems better-looking than castlevania 1 and metroid 1. like at the very least there's "more" going on visually. i think it's fair to argue that it's not visually distinctive, but the textures in the art can be more pleasing to the people who are able to distinguish what's going on

discussing that specific quality, and whether that's a trend in modern games, is also just way more productive than whether or not "objectively ugly/bad" exists

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masterplum
01/10/23 7:22:24 AM
#163:


SeabassDebeste posted...
looking at a google image search, axiom verge 2 seems better-looking than castlevania 1 and metroid 1. like at the very least there's "more" going on visually. i think it's fair to argue that it's not visually distinctive, but the textures in the art can be more pleasing to the people who are able to distinguish what's going on

discussing that specific quality, and whether that's a trend in modern games, is also just way more productive than whether or not "objectively ugly/bad" exists

Oh it certainly doesnt look worse than every NES game, but look at images of the original ninja turtles. It looks miles better.

The bar should not be looking better than some but not all NES games.

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foolm0r0n
01/10/23 10:11:20 AM
#164:


His point is if you think one of the most stylistically unique and medium-defining games of all time is ugly, you're wrong.

The modern art analogy would be to say that Picasso's famous works are ugly and he should've stuck to the realistic portraits from his early years.

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Lopen
01/10/23 10:12:41 AM
#165:


foolm0r0n posted...
His point is if you think one of the most unique and medium-defining games of all time is ugly, you're wrong.

That's a really interesting way to read what he said. Perhaps a medium-defining way to read it, even.

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foolm0r0n
01/10/23 10:14:37 AM
#166:


You may not like it, but this what true beauty in message board posts look like

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MZero
01/10/23 11:31:27 AM
#167:


foolm0r0n posted...
The modern art analogy would be to say that Picasso's famous works are ugly and he should've stuck to the realistic portraits from his early years.

true tbh

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Leonhart4
01/10/23 11:33:06 AM
#168:


This topic is why art shouldn't exist

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HanOfTheNekos
01/10/23 11:34:58 AM
#169:


This is art:
<img src="https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/1/9/AAcM16AAEESH.jpg">

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Lopen
01/10/23 11:54:48 AM
#170:


Axiom Verge 2 is nothing like Picasso. Axiom Verge is extremely bland in its ugliness-- I've seen dozens of games like it.

Those cookies now those are more like Picasso. Wonderful creations.

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masterplum
01/10/23 12:03:28 PM
#171:


Squirtle cookie is great

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masterplum
01/10/23 12:06:27 PM
#172:


Lopen posted...
Axiom Verge 2 is nothing like Picasso. Axiom Verge is extremely bland in its ugliness-- I've seen dozens of games like it.

Those cookies now those are more like Picasso. Wonderful creations.

Yeah I feel like people think we are saying that people with creative visions expressed in creative ways should be traditionally pretty.

No, it's axiom verge 2 is a bland and low quality execution of pixel art. It's nothing like an undertale which leaned in and winked at you that the art could be better but chose not to (And also had incredible music)


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paperwarior
01/10/23 6:33:30 PM
#173:


Well, this topic compelled me to try Axiom Verge 2 and see what all the fuss is about. It's not strikingly beautiful but come the fuck on.

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foolm0r0n
01/12/23 11:07:27 PM
#174:


masterplum posted...
It's nothing like an undertale which leaned in and winked at you that the art could be better but chose not to (And also had incredible music)
But Undertale IS part of the premise of this topic about ugly games. If you're giving it a pass then that proves the whole point of subjective ugliness.

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