Current Events > Ohio woman killed by FAMILY pit bull as she was bringing it out for a walk

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the_pika posted...

wat

i mean bites. Theres an increase in numbers because theres more pitbulls.

I4NRulez posted...

i mean bites. Theres an increase in numbers because theres more pitbulls.

ok at this point youre just making stuff up as you go

the_pika posted...

ok at this point youre just making stuff up as you go

Dogs labeled as "pitbulls" are by far the most popular "strong breed" dogs in the U.S. - more popular than German Shepherds, Boxers, Rottweilers, Doberman Pinschers, Great Danes, Huskies, Mastiffs, and many other strong breeds. In fact, breed population data shows that pitbull-type dogs (and their many mixes) are the 3rd most popular dog type adopted from shelters and the 5th most popular dog type registered by veterinarians. Furthermore, the veterinary data shows that pitbull-type dogs are becoming more and more popular with their overall population increasing by 24% while the populations of other large or strong breeds such as German Shepherds (-7%) and Labrador Retrievers (-17%) have declined. Therefore, we estimate that pitbull-type dogs and their many mixes account for 20% of dogs in the U.S. based on recent shelter and veterinary population data (provided below). While the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) is a distinct breed, the broader label of "pitbull" is not a breed but instead a generic term used to loosely describe a type (or category) of dog based only on its appearance resembling any medium-sized dog with physical characteristics from any of the numerous "bully-type" (or bulldog-type) breeds. Accordingly, our 20% pitbull-type dog population estimate includes the 4+ unique breeds commonly assigned to the broad pitbull-type category, a large number and variety of pitbull-type mixes, and other breeds and mixes that can be labeled as "pitbulls" due to their appearance.

Here's more info from the ASPCA

http://web.archive.org/web/20190731184541/https://www.aspcapro.org/blog/2014/05/15/filling-pit

I mean if youre just going to post nonsense to justify why breed A has 65% of dog bite deaths and why breed B only has 3% wow.

do you really think that 65% of dogs out there are pibbles and only 3% are huskies?! lmao

but let us play along.

people are drawn to huskies because of their beauty and because people assume they sre happy snow dogs like in disney movies. they're Balto!! they're the dogs from "snow dogs"!!

people flock to huskies yet they only have 3%

people avoid pibbles because of their stereotype and yet they still manage to have over 60% of the bites

I've seen more pitbull deaths then chihuahua deaths.

the_pika posted...

I mean if youre just going to post nonsense to justify why breed A has 65% of dog bite deaths and why breed B only has 3% wow.

do you really think that 65% of dogs out there are pibbles and only 3% are huskies?! lmao

but let us play along.

people are drawn to huskies because of their beauty and because people assume they sre happy snow dogs like in disney movies. they're Balto!! they're the dogs from "snow dogs"!!

people flock to huskies yet they only have 3%

people avoid pibbles because of their stereotype and yet they still manage to have over 60% of the bites

then why are huskies responsible for more deaths in canada than pits are?

https://www.chicobandido.com/dbrf-canada/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_Canada

Yazarogi posted...

I've seen more pitbull deaths then chihuahua deaths.

The chances of being killed by a chihuahua are low, but never zero.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/9/0/AAb05zAAENmi.jpg

I4NRulez posted...

then why are huskies responsible for more deaths in canada than pits are?

https://www.chicobandido.com/dbrf-canada/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_Canada

youre hilarious. I cant tell is this is a gimmick or not at this point.

the_pika posted...

I mean if youre just going to post nonsense to justify why breed A has 65% of dog bite deaths and why breed B only has 3% wow.

do you really think that 65% of dogs out there are pibbles and only 3% are huskies?! lmao

but let us play along.

people are drawn to huskies because of their beauty and because people assume they sre happy snow dogs like in disney movies. they're Balto!! they're the dogs from "snow dogs"!!

people flock to huskies yet they only have 3%

people avoid pibbles because of their stereotype and yet they still manage to have over 60% of the bites

Bull breed types are by far among the most popular in the country, especially in big cities. I can count on one hand the amount of Huskies I've encountered, and I'm around dogs a lot.

the_pika posted...

youre hilarious. I cant tell is this is a gimmick or not at this point.

Youre the one saying pits are more dangerous as a breed. I'm sorry to inform you that huskies bite.

You know in parts of canada they banned Pitbulls for years and dog bites didnt decrease. Its almost like its nothing to do with the breed at all. There's a much larger number of pits in the US and you're more than likely going to have an encounter with them over a husky.

also, according to the AKC who is the standard in the dog breeds who dont actually even consider pitbulls a breed

no one is even flocking to huskies like you claim they are lol

https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/dog-breeds/most-popular-dog-breeds-of-2021/

I4NRulez posted...

also, according to the AKC who is the standard in the dog breeds who dont actually even consider pitbulls a breed

no one is even flocking to huskies like you claim they are lol

https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/dog-breeds/most-popular-dog-breeds-of-2021/

my last post to you itt:

huskies were bred to pull sleds. Pibbles were bred to fight.

why should anyone buy your conspiracy theory that huskies are cold blooded murder wolves and pibbles are sweethearts? I posted the stats.

Im done here. You try to tell me this is a sweet nanny dog:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/3/AAZ1peAAENaF.jpg

i try to tell you this is less dangerous:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/5/9/AAfaEYAAENnn.jpg

the public will judge. Have a good night

How many more needless deaths are there going to be before we ban assault pitbulls?

I4NRulez posted...

Youre the one saying pits are more dangerous as a breed. I'm sorry to inform you that huskies bite.

You know in parts of canada they banned Pitbulls for years and dog bites didnt decrease. Its almost like its nothing to do with the breed at all. There's a much larger number of pits in the US and you're more than likely going to have an encounter with them over a husky.

"Huskies bite therefore pits are not all that dangerous" is not a logical argument at all.

It's gotten to the point where I just come to these threads to laugh at the schmucks who defend pitbulls.

Even if a pitbull isn't trained, why would it attack someone it sees literally every day, in a familiar environment, and who shows it love and is not aggressive toward it?

nurleschka posted...

It's gotten to the point where I just come to these threads to laugh at the schmucks who defend pitbulls.

Even if a pitbull isn't trained, why would it attack someone it sees literally every day, in a familiar environment, and who shows it love and is not aggressive toward it?

Right? You don't see cats or other dogs snapping like this and killing their loved ones. Pitbulls are a lab experiment gone wrong. You're probably better off having a pet grizzly bear than a pitbull.

the_pika posted...

my last post to you itt:

My favorite thing about these topics is how the pibble defenders post studies and sources that back up their points and the pibble haters post memes in response. Really just goes to show how one group of people aren't actually interested in understanding an issue and just want to post funny pictures at each other.

A_Good_Boy posted...

My favorite thing about these topics is how the pibble defenders post studies and sources that back up their points and the pibble haters post memes in response. Really just goes to show how one group of people aren't actually interested in understanding an issue and just want to post funny pictures at each other.

Well, every time someone posts hards stats which backup how dangerous these beasts are they get brushed off and called fake. So memes it is.

Paragon21XX posted...

"Huskies bite therefore pits are not all that dangerous" is not a logical argument at all.

thats not what i said. I've been saying in this topic that theres no breed that is inherently dangerous.

This guy was saying huskies are some beautiful exotic animals that are just energetic vocal dogs. Both dogs are returned to the shelters at high rates.

My point was that in Canada, where theres more sled dogs than pits why are there more deaths from huskies than pits if pits are going to snap no matter what? If there's more pits in the US of course they will have more encounters.

My stance is that there is no bad dog breed but there are bad dog owners. Pitbulls fall victim to those owners and this is the shit that happens.

voldothegr8 posted...

Well, every time someone posts hards stats which backup how dangerous these beasts are they get brushed off and called fake. So memes it is.

Bruh, the fucking CDC did a study saying breed bans dont work and the ASPCA came out and said pitbulls arent dangerous by nature.

This fucking board will be like "heres a graph from dogbites.org that say pitbulls are bad" which is notoriously anti pit and then post memes if theres a study from a site that is pro pitbull.

I've never said pitbulls dont have the most bites in the US. I've posted the why but instead of going "oh maybe that makes sense" the responses are "LOLOL PIBBLES M I RITE"

I4NRulez posted...

Bruh, the fucking CDC did a study saying breed bans dont work and the ASPCA came out and said pitbulls arent dangerous by nature.

Almost a case of weve investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.

https://youtu.be/dKqLhzHSARI

CE_gonna_CE posted...

Almost a case of weve investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.

Who is the "we" suppose to be in this post?

voldothegr8 posted...

Well, every time someone posts hards stats which backup how dangerous these beasts are they get brushed off and called fake. So memes it is.

Those stats are always dubious at best and when issues with those numbers get brought up, instead of addressing them y'all just post meme pictures. It's why discussions about pitbulls are completely pointless.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Those stats are always dubious at best and when issues with those numbers get brought up, instead of addressing them y'all just post meme pictures. It's why discussions about pitbulls are completely pointless.

They tend to be pointless because people dont want change. Kinda like the whole gun violence issue in the US. We need to have a change but people going to argue about mah rights.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Those stats are always dubious at best and when issues with those numbers get brought up, instead of addressing them y'all just post meme pictures. It's why discussions about pitbulls are completely pointless.

Lol. Case in point

A_Good_Boy posted...

My favorite thing about these topics is how the pibble defenders post studies and sources that back up their points and the pibble haters post memes in response. Really just goes to show how one group of people aren't actually interested in understanding an issue and just want to post funny pictures at each other.

@a_good_boy nothing further from the truth. Here is a breakdown:

1) he lied about huskies being as dangerous as pibbles

at this point I responded with cold, hard data, showing the number of pibble bite deaths and their percentage (64%) compared to huskies (3%).

I am the one who used studied and sources here

2) the other guy responded to my studies with well there are more people per pibble, later correcting his point to well there are more pibbles than huskies, thats what I meant, as if pibbles truly were 64% of the dog population and huskies only 3% - he cant prove this, and it sounds really stupid

3) his argument was huskies bite too, therefore pibbles are not dangerous. This is worse than meme logic.

your boy began getting personal and silly and I said bye bye and posted a pic that reflects both breeds.

re-consider your statement

I4NRulez posted...

Bruh, the fucking CDC did a study saying breed bans dont work and the ASPCA came out and said pitbulls arent dangerous by nature.

This fucking board will be like "heres a graph from dogbites.org that say pitbulls are bad" which is notoriously anti pit and then post memes if theres a study from a site that is pro pitbull.

I've never said pitbulls dont have the most bites in the US. I've posted the why but instead of going "oh maybe that makes sense" the responses are "LOLOL PIBBLES M I RITE"

and your response is LOLOLOLOLO HUSKIES BE WORSE!!! BOtH sIdEs, while equating a breed with 3% of the bite deaths to a breed with 64% of them

the_pika posted...

and your response is LOLOLOLOLO HUSKIES BE WORSE!!! BOtH sIdEs, while equating a breed with 3% of the bite deaths to a breed with 64% of them

theres way more pits than huskies man idk why thats hard to comprehend.

If there are 2 million hondas on the road and 1000 Porsches on the road. There's going to be more accidents involving hondas. idk why thats hard for you to comprehend.

You then tried to say "people are flocking to Huskies" which isnt true per the AKC.

https://www.aaha.org/publications/newstat/articles/2019-06/new-study-identifies-most-damaging-dog-bites-by-breed/

Nearly five million people in the US are bitten by dogs each year. The most common victims are children, most of whom are bitten by family pets. But which breed bites the most? Thats hard to say, because according to a new study, unknown tops the list.
But it's probably not the one pictured above.
Numbers two through six are easier. They are, in order: pit bull, mixed breed, German shepherd, terrier, and rottweiler.
The bottom five breeds for bite risk were: dalmatian, pointer, Great Dane, Pekingese, and spitz.
To assess bite severity, researchers at Ohio State Universitys Wexner Medical Center reviewed 15 years of dog-related facial trauma cases from 240 patients who were treated at Nationwide Childrens Hospital in Columbus, Ohio, and the University of Virginia Health System. They focused on wound size, tissue tearing, bone fractures, and other injuries severe enough to call in a facial trauma and reconstructive surgeon.
Researchers also combed the literature from 1970 to the present, searching for papers that reported data on breeds to determine the relative risk of biting from a particular breed. 40 reported bites was the minimum requirement for including a breed in the new study; 43 studies in the literature met that criterion. The researchers combined those results with with hospital data to determine the relative risk of biting and the average tissue damage of those bites.

No mention of Huskies

voldothegr8 posted...

No mention of Huskies

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/canine-corner/201405/14-dog-breeds-blacklisted-insurance-companies

Huskies on the list

https://www.2keller.com/library/the-top-10-most-dangerous-dog-breeds.cfm

huskies on the list

https://www.youriowalawyers.com/blog/2020/february/top-10-most-dangerous-dog-breeds/

There's plenty of lists i can come up with that will have more stats.

The issue being is that you cant based these things off breed. A husky isnt any more likely to bite someone if you train than any other breed.

Thats why we need responsible owners with the patience and time to care for these dogs to eliminate these incidents for the safety of both people and dogs.

I4NRulez posted...

theres way more pits than huskies man idk why thats hard to comprehend.

If there are 2 million hondas on the road and 1000 Porsches on the road. There's going to be more accidents involving hondas. idk why thats hard for you to comprehend.

You then tried to say "people are flocking to Huskies" which isnt true per the AKC.

see what I mean, @a_good_boy ? This guy can just pull facts out of his ass like that. Where are the stats? Published papers?

the_pika posted...

see what I mean, @a_good_boy ? This guy can just pull facts out of his ass like that. Where are the stats? Published papers?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_popular_dog_breeds
https://financesonline.com/number-of-dogs-in-the-us/
https://www.animals24-7.org/2021/07/07/dog-breed-census-2021-labs-hounds-top-list-pit-bulls-come-in-third/

Idk man, no matter where I look I'm not seeing huskies as a popular dog breed.

the_pika posted...

see what I mean, @a_good_boy ? This guy can just pull facts out of his ass like that. Where are the stats? Published papers?

i posted the AKC link you clown lol

Do people think others pick on the breed for no reason? People always say it is a bad owner. But this lady fought for pittbulls. I would ever tell anyone to kill their friend. But people worry isn't unfounded.

Never I thought I'd see huskies getting blamed lmao

You guys should stick with the dangerous chihuahuas tbh

A_Good_Boy posted...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_popular_dog_breeds
https://financesonline.com/number-of-dogs-in-the-us/
https://www.animals24-7.org/2021/07/07/dog-breed-census-2021-labs-hounds-top-list-pit-bulls-come-in-third/

Idk man, no matter where I look I'm not seeing huskies as a popular dog breed.

big difference with pibbles are 64% of the dog population and huskies only 3%

if anything your link supports my point :

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/8/1/AAfaEYAAENy5.jpg

it looks like pibbles are 7.4% of the dogs, and huskies are 2.3%. This is YOUR stat, not mine.

so pibbles are 7.4% of the dogs and account for 64% of the dog bite deaths and huskies are 2.3% of the dogs and account for 3% of the bites this is NOT good for that guys argument.

just tell us you like pibbles too, rather than trying to look like an unbiased observer who is shocked by ln4rulez use of stats and facts and my lack thereof

Mew posted...

Never I thought I'd see huskies getting blamed lmao

You guys should stick with the dangerous chihuahuas tbh

their arguments are getting laughable.

the stats say that pibbles account for 64% of dog bite deaths and huskies only 3%.

so they come up with a laughable, non-fact based argument (thats because there are so many more pibbles!) and in the process they made us realize that pibbles are not even close to being 10% of the dogs out there while huskies are like 2.5-ish %

the_pika posted...

their arguments are getting laughable.

the stats say that pibbles account for 64% of dog bite deaths and huskies only 3%.

so they come up with a laughable, non-fact based argument (thats because there are so many more pibbles!) and in the process they made us realize that pibbles are not even close to being 10% of the dogs out there while huskies are like 2.5-ish %

idk where you get your numbers lol

https://www.pitbullinfo.org/pit-bulls-population.html

Pits are 20% of the dog population. That link has all the data if you want to read it.

cjsdowg posted...

Do people think others pick on the breed for no reason? People always say it is a bad owner. But this lady fought for pittbulls. I would ever tell anyone to kill their friend. But people worry isn't unfounded.

You can be an advocate for a dog and not a dog trainer.

and training a rescue dog is not like training a normal dog. Dogs get PTSD and other mental illnesses from trauma.

Mew posted...

Never I thought I'd see huskies getting blamed lmao

You guys should stick with the dangerous chihuahuas tbh

can you explain why Huskies have a higher fatality rate in canada than in the us when compared to pitbulls?

Pits have only recently been banned in Canada and going back years sled dogs always had more fatalities.

Its almost like the breed isnt the issue and dogs should be treated like individuals

the_pika posted...

big difference with pibbles are 64% of the dog population and huskies only 3%

if anything your link supports my point :

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/8/1/AAfaEYAAENy5.jpg

it looks like pibbles are 7.4% of the dogs, and huskies are 2.3%. This is YOUR stat, not mine.

so pibbles are 7.4% of the dogs and account for 64% of the dog bite deaths and huskies are 2.3% of the dogs and account for 3% of the bites this is NOT good for that guys argument.

just tell us you like pibbles too, rather than trying to look like an unbiased observer who is shocked by ln4rulez use of stats and facts and my lack thereof

Gonna need a source for that. Pit Bull type dogs and bull breeds are the most common, there are millions of Pits and Pit-mixes out there at an estimated 20 percent of around 90 million dogs in the US, shelters are full of them. On that list the GSD is at the top, I can count on one hand how many times I've seen a pure GSD in recent years, can't turn around without tripping over a bull breed around here.

Taharqa_ posted...

Gonna need a source for that. Pit Bull type dogs and bull breeds are the most common, there are millions of Pits and Pit-mixes out there at an estimated 20 percent of around 90 million dogs in the US, shelters are full of them. On that list the GSD is at the top, I can count on one hand how many times I've seen a pure GSD in recent years, can't turn around without tripping over a bull breed around here.

Look at the break down of Shepherds on that graph. It has GSD at 100k and nothing else close but the overall total is 500k lol

I4NRulez posted...

can you explain why Huskies have a higher fatality rate in canada than in the us when compared to pitbulls?

Pits have only recently been banned in Canada and going back years sled dogs always had more fatalities.

Its almost like the breed isnt the issue and dogs should be treated like individuals

So you're saying BSL does work?

Mew posted...

So you're saying BSL does work?

it doesnt because dog bites didnt decrease even when pits were banned. BSL has never worked.

and you dont understand the argument. Huskies are killing people in canada. They had BSL against pits and yet dog bite numbers remained the same.

So why is that? Why are dog bites at the same volume yet the "Most dangerous dog breed in the world" according to you is banned.

I4NRulez posted...

can you explain why Huskies have a higher fatality rate in canada than in the us when compared to pitbulls?

see how he just throws wild facts with no support whatsoever @a_good_boy ?

also, why is in Canada the group he considers particularly relevant in this hypothetical?

this is why I stopped arguing with him

I4NRulez posted...

it doesnt because dog bites didnt decrease even when pits were banned. BSL has never worked.

and you dont understand the argument. Huskies are killing people in canada. They had BSL against pits and yet dog bite numbers remained the same.

So why is that? Why are dog bites at the same volume yet the "Most dangerous dog breed in the world" according to you is banned.

Who cares about dog bites? Fatalities/disfigurement/reconstructive surgeries probably decreased

the_pika posted...

their arguments are getting laughable.

the stats say that pibbles account for 64% of dog bite deaths and huskies only 3%.

so they come up with a laughable, non-fact based argument (thats because there are so many more pibbles!) and in the process they made us realize that pibbles are not even close to being 10% of the dogs out there while huskies are like 2.5-ish %

Im being baited hard, gotta stop replying to him lmao

I4NRulez posted...

idk where you get your numbers lol

https://www.pitbullinfo.org/pit-bulls-population.html

Pits are 20% of the dog population. That link has all the data if you want to read it.

Ah yes, the very unbiased "pitbullinfo.com"