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FFDragon
03/27/23 12:55:01 PM
#51:


Aecioo posted...
Lamar has fucked himself and is the prime example for why agents are needed,

Here's the thing though, the Ravens just signed Roquan to a massive deal and be doesn't have an agent.

Lamar bet on himself last season. He lost. Badly. And now he's still being a diva about it. He only has himself to blame and as a fan I've been over it all for a while.

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Aecioo
03/27/23 12:55:12 PM
#52:


Leonhart4 posted...
I mean, once he decided he wanted a fully guaranteed contract or bust, I'm not sure an agent changes that much.

Well yeah, but an agent at least has the opportunity to tell him that there is no chance of that happening.

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Leonhart4
03/27/23 12:59:33 PM
#53:


Aecioo posted...
Well yeah, but an agent at least has the opportunity to tell him that there is no chance of that happening.

I'm sure plenty of people have told him that already. I don't think he listens just because it comes from an agent.

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Mewtwo59
03/27/23 1:02:23 PM
#54:


People are forgetting that the agent works for Lamar. If the agent isn't getting Lamar what he wants, he's not going to take the deal just because the agent tells him to. He'll just fire the agent and find a new one who says they can get him what he wants.

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Thorn
03/27/23 1:03:39 PM
#55:


FWIW, and I think it's come from Lamar's camp, but isn't the Ravens counteroffer actually insultingly low?

Like put aside Watson's deal as an outlier sure, but wasn't the last offer we know of from their side like substantially less guaranteed money than Kyler Murray? Like $40m less (total, obv). If that's true I feel like Lamar has a point here - he should be getting paid more than Kyler come on. OTOH, it would be in their interest to let that kind of narrative develop and not mention if the Ravens offered a more reasonable deal.

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Leonhart4
03/27/23 1:32:34 PM
#56:


I just want the Ravens to come out of this looking like total losers, and we're well on our way to that with Pro Bowler Tyler Huntley being the Week 1 starter

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Mewtwo59
03/27/23 1:57:52 PM
#57:


I think the only way the Ravens come out of this looking like losers is if Lamar goes back to his 2019 form with a new team, and I highly doubt that happens. He's not winning a Super Bowl with whoever gives in to his demands (maybe the Jets if they pivot away from Rodgers, but that's the only chance). I'm more convinced that in 5 years we'll be saying the Ravens made the right choice.

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Leonhart4
03/27/23 2:33:31 PM
#58:


Nah, I don't think Lamar needs to be MVP level for the Ravens to look foolish. They kinda already do, but people still give them the benefit of the doubt even though I'm not sure they deserve it.

They're going to be an abysmal offense next year and they won't be able to blame Lamar this time, so maybe people will start to wise up.

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LeonhartFour
03/27/23 8:32:46 PM
#59:


https://twitter.com/kguregian/status/1640443016363270144

what an amazing tweet

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Leonhart4
03/28/23 2:59:17 PM
#60:


https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1640745903492575232

Itshappening.gif...?

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Thorn
03/30/23 10:13:17 AM
#61:


congrats to the jets for inheriting the mantle of longest playoff drought in the four major leagues today

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LeonhartFour
03/30/23 10:21:03 AM
#62:


it was fun seeing Arthur Blank try to explain why it was okay for the Falcons to pursue Deshaun Watson but not Lamar Jackson

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Thorn
03/30/23 10:23:15 AM
#63:


Yeah, all the owners and GMs are contorting themselves into pretzels to justify it but that was probably the "best."

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Thorn
03/30/23 10:25:37 AM
#64:


Oh, right, now I finally remember what I meant to say.

It got tabled for now but the owners are considering allowing the league to flex games into Thursday Night which is obviously the stupidest thing ever. Could come up again in a few months. Giants owner came out strong against it so hopefully it fails.

They did approve a change to allow teams to have 2 Thursday Night games a season instead of the current 1 which also seems like a bad idea because the way things are set up now everyone gets 1 but with this you could be seeing some teams get 2 short weeks and others get none.

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LeonhartFour
03/30/23 10:28:16 AM
#65:


all this will do is incentivize tanking because this means no bad teams get Thursday games

but yeah, it's a bad idea because Goodell will point to the data that says more injuries don't happen on Thursday and they get ten days off afterward, conveniently ignoring the strong possibility that they'll be more prone to injury later on because their bodies are playing without proper recovery time

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Crescent-Moon
03/30/23 1:47:43 PM
#66:


But if they give you two Thursdays in a row, it only counts as one.

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Crescent-Moon
03/31/23 9:52:53 AM
#67:


OBJ is expected to go to the Jets, and it's assumed he's waiting until the Rodgers trade is done to commit to it.

Oh boy this Jets team.

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LeonhartFour
03/31/23 10:03:59 AM
#68:


Well, Rodgers reportedly wanted the Packers to get him a couple years ago before he went to the Rams, so it makes sense.

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Ashethan
03/31/23 10:33:29 AM
#69:


Jets want a championship so bad, they're willing to settle for being off season champs.

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_PandaMaster_
04/04/23 2:52:21 PM
#70:


https://twitter.com/nfl_dovkleiman/status/1643272043872284674?s=46&t=Lc8ypXWqQKtyvDA84DPiWw

Belichick? You OK?

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Leonhart4
04/04/23 3:01:26 PM
#71:


Patriots going after Lamar, book it

Either that or it's time for the Bailey Zappe era

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Leonhart4
04/05/23 5:09:59 PM
#72:


https://twitter.com/HoodieRamey/status/1643647485036961794

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Leonhart4
04/05/23 9:13:23 PM
#73:


https://twitter.com/shannonsharpeee/status/1643748241761275905

Sharing mainly because of Cam's outfit

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_PandaMaster_
04/07/23 8:17:22 PM
#74:


Cam officially prepared to be a backup.

Good decision by him.

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LeonhartFour
04/07/23 8:19:59 PM
#75:


he's prepared to be a backup to QBs who run and get hit a lot, QBs who are old, and young QBs who could potentially get benched

in other words, he wants to be a backup in a place where he has a good chance to step in and play

as a Titans fan it's kinda hilarious that he mentioned Malik Willis since he won't even be the starter this year, so I guess he's signing up to be third string here, lawl

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Crescent-Moon
04/09/23 4:46:06 PM
#76:


_PandaMaster_ posted...
Cam officially prepared to be a backup.

Good decision by him.
Cam has matured enough to make good decisions.

I just don't think he has anything left at all.

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Leonhart4
04/09/23 6:38:29 PM
#77:


Beckham signs with the Ravens for 1 year and 18 million dollars

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_PandaMaster_
04/09/23 6:47:08 PM
#78:


Lamo got his #1 Receiver now.

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FFDragon
04/09/23 7:19:43 PM
#79:


You mean Snoop got his #1

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Crescent-Moon
04/09/23 7:58:24 PM
#80:


Surprised he went to a team that feels like it's on the verge of spiraling into irrelevancy.

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Leonhart4
04/09/23 10:09:04 PM
#81:


My guess is that (ironically) the Ravens offered him more than anyone else by a noticeable amount

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Leonhart4
04/10/23 5:12:29 PM
#82:


https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1645451234357264385

Wonder who wants Levis or Richardson so badly

(Cards should absolutely trade the pick, by the way)

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Crescent-Moon
04/10/23 5:59:54 PM
#83:


I don't have high hopes for either

Everything I hear about Richardson screams being like a 95% chance of bust. There are still some teams who reportedly have him as a 4th round talent.

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Shattered
04/10/23 6:19:48 PM
#84:


I will happily eat humble pie if wrong but I really don't get the hype with Richardson. Yes he's freakishly athletic but he was a bad QB in college. I watched enough Florida games last season to see that.

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Leonhart4
04/10/23 7:01:56 PM
#85:


I think Richardson has the same problem as Zach Wilson or Trey Lance. He hasn't played enough, and football is one of those sports where playing actual games makes a difference.

I remember people saying Cardale Jones should declare for the draft after he stepped in for Ohio State to win the national title, and I thought that was insane because he'd only played three games, no matter how big they were.

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Shattered
04/10/23 7:55:32 PM
#86:


I mean if the end goal was to be drafted as high as possible, Cardale Jones absolutely should have declared at that point. As an Ohio State fan I didn't understand why he didn't because there was absolutely no guarantee he would get substantial minutes the following year. He was obviously amazing when it mattered but in the games before that it was clear why he wasn't the starter

Counterpoint. Joe Burrow also did not look like anything special at Ohio State even if there hadn't been anyone in his way. Always makes me cringe when fellow OSU fans claim him as our own. Yes he spent a lengthy time with us but he would have never been drafted had he stayed with us and there was zero chance he would have started in his remaining years there had he not transferred.
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Maniac64
04/10/23 8:37:38 PM
#87:


Shattered posted...
I will happily eat humble pie if wrong but I really don't get the hype with Richardson. Yes he's freakishly athletic but he was a bad QB in college. I watched enough Florida games last season to see that.

Even if you blame it on Florida being bad, the gap between where he was and where he needs to be as a pro is gargantuan. Even if Florida was the worst offense in the SEC, he should have put up significantly better numbers
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LeonhartFour
04/10/23 8:42:30 PM
#88:


Shattered posted...
I mean if the end goal was to be drafted as high as possible, Cardale Jones absolutely should have declared at that point.

true, his stock was never going to be higher, but he would've been a bust

if anything, he should've just transferred


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Crescent-Moon
04/11/23 12:45:50 AM
#89:


Leonhart4 posted...
Zach Wilson
This is exactly what I see. A QB that's suddenly being talked about as a high first round pick kinda out of nowhere based only on hype and not merit.

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Shattered
04/11/23 1:20:46 AM
#90:


LeonhartFour posted...
true, his stock was never going to be higher, but he would've been a bust

if anything, he should've just transferred

He would have had to sit a year to transfer I think? This was pre portal as that was 2014, his last season was 2015 as a RS Junior and I think the portal was 2018 or so?
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Leonhart4
04/11/23 6:34:45 AM
#91:


Yeah, he would've had to sit, but at least he'd have had a year to play and develop as a QB. Sometimes a change of scenery can make a big difference, too, like with Burrow.

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_PandaMaster_
04/11/23 3:07:38 PM
#92:


Falcons acquire Jeff Okudah
Trade Market acquires Bucs LB Devin White

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LeonhartFour
04/11/23 7:51:17 PM
#93:


in Kiper's latest mock draft he has the Titans trading up to the 3rd pick to draft Richardson

please no

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_PandaMaster_
04/11/23 9:00:32 PM
#94:


Imagine a team drafting TWO project QBs in back-to-back drafts.

Poor Derrick Henry.

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Crescent-Moon
04/11/23 10:05:20 PM
#95:


LeonhartFour posted...
in Kiper's latest mock draft he has the Titans trading up to the 3rd pick to draft Richardson

please no
For all the hype he's getting I don't know a single fan who actually wants the guy.

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LeonhartFour
04/11/23 10:10:10 PM
#96:


because fans stopped being fooled by pro days and the combine years ago

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Crescent-Moon
04/11/23 11:25:43 PM
#97:


I haven't paid even the slightest bit of attention to either in at least well over a decade I'd say.

They're pretty much the most irrelevant things in the entire NFL and they get treated like they're some massive deal.

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_PandaMaster_
04/12/23 12:10:00 PM
#98:


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-free-agency-2023-49ers-to-sign-javon-hargrave-to-four-year-84-million-deal/

Bosa set to bankrupt the Niners.

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KommunistKoala
04/13/23 3:06:12 PM
#99:


https://www.sportico.com/business/team-sales/2023/josh-harris-com-1234698114/

itshappening.gif?

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LeonhartFour
04/14/23 8:52:07 PM
#100:


Budda Baker requests a trade from the Cardinals

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