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NeonTentacles
06/02/23 8:43:21 AM
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Even though the Otacon Ending is non-canon I think it's better and should be done on your first playthrough.

Here's the comparison if you forgot

*obviously MGS1 spoilers >_>*

Otacon Ending:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1nwsRZycp8
https://youtu.be/d1nwsRZycp8?t=1083

Meryl Ending:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKFEVRnP6Sc
https://youtu.be/qKFEVRnP6Sc?t=1104

Otacon's ending is more about accepting others and living life to the fullest even with loss. Meryl's is just "I wanted to see you Snake! Let's journey together in life. Oh there's some caribou" >_>

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havean776
06/02/23 8:44:40 AM
#2:


Agreed. Having Snake fail and show weakness was a great ending. Also him and Otacon have some great lines.

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Turbam
06/02/23 8:45:09 AM
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Otacon ending?

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radical_rhino
06/02/23 8:45:11 AM
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Everyone agrees. Meryls ending is just typical damsel in distress stuff. Otacons is actually interesting.

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Ivynn
06/02/23 8:46:29 AM
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Agreed.

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boxoto
06/02/23 9:09:18 AM
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Otacon is a trash character, and I liked not having anything to do with him, until MGS2, where he unfortunately came back.

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Spurner
06/02/23 9:23:53 AM
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Who cares what they say. Whichever doesnt have me button mashing gets my vote.
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GranTurismo
06/02/23 9:25:58 AM
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i thought the 2 endings was a great addition. Great idea by kojima. Had it ever been done in a game before?
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NeonTentacles
06/02/23 4:06:30 PM
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I'm sure it has

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GranTurismo
06/03/23 9:25:23 AM
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GranTurismo posted...
i thought the 2 endings was a great addition. Great idea by kojima. Had it ever been done in a game before?

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Alteres
06/03/23 10:21:25 AM
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games had multiple endings for a long time, especially rpgs

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Poorly
06/04/23 12:29:55 PM
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Sniper wolf didn't died, how would u explain the narration in the ending of mgs? Her boobs cell lives on even as she drew her last breath. Some said she passed her genes on to sunny in mgs4.

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Gobstoppers12
06/04/23 12:38:06 PM
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Poorly posted...
Her boobs cell lives on even as she drew her last breath. Some said she passed her genes on to sunny in mgs4.
weird post to make involving Sunny tbh

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GranTurismo
06/04/23 5:32:20 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
weird post to make involving Sunny tbh
ye, weird post
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pegusus123456
06/04/23 5:34:09 PM
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It's also the more romantic one because Otacon and Snake were husbands after the first game whereas Meryl dumped him.

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UnfairRepresent
06/04/23 5:37:00 PM
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Meryl was always kinda weird as a character

She extensively goes on about her intense training to feel no attraction to men whatsoever.... Then falls in love with Snake in seconds.

Plus the whole "Watch her butt to identify her!" thing.

Sometimes it feels like The Boss was Kojima's attempt at showing off how he can write female characters who aren't as stupid as Holly, Merly, Quiet, Eva etc when he feels like it

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pegusus123456
06/04/23 5:42:58 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Sometimes it feels like The Boss was Kojima's attempt at showing off how he can write female characters who aren't as stupid as Holly, Merly, Quiet, Eva etc when he feels like it
I wouldn't say EVA is badly written. She's a honey trap spy, she's deliberately showing off her breasts to bait Snake and fuck him over.

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havean776
06/04/23 5:45:14 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Meryl was always kinda weird as a character

She extensively goes on about her intense training to feel no attraction to men whatsoever.... Then falls in love with Snake in seconds.

Wait it's possible to not be in love with Solid Snake? What weird people.

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ironman2009
06/04/23 5:46:53 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Meryl was always kinda weird as a character

She extensively goes on about her intense training to feel no attraction to men whatsoever.... Then falls in love with Snake in seconds.

Plus the whole "Watch her butt to identify her!" thing.

Sometimes it feels like The Boss was Kojima's attempt at showing off how he can write female characters who aren't as stupid as Holly, Merly, Quiet, Eva etc when he feels like it

Love can bloom on a battlefield.

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UnfairRepresent
06/04/23 5:48:09 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I wouldn't say EVA is badly written. She's a honey trap spy, she's deliberately showing off her breasts to bait Snake and fuck him over.
And Quiet breathes through her skin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke1YKF3tNCE

Half hearted lazy explanations for why dumb characters do dumb things that don't make sense doesn't change anything

There is no secret agent on Earth who would be like "hurr durr tiddies." at some random lady showing off clevage for literally no reason DURING AN ACTIVE MISSION BEHIND HOSTILE ENEMY LINES.

She's a dumb character and an excuse for the devs and teenage boys to jerk off.

Even The Boss who was i just praising gets her baps out for no reason too.

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Tyranthraxus
06/04/23 5:49:00 PM
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Turbam posted...
Otacon ending?
If you fail the torture scene you get the otacon ending

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Tyranthraxus
06/04/23 5:51:14 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
i thought the 2 endings was a great addition. Great idea by kojima. Had it ever been done in a game before?

The oldest (non fighting) game I can think of with alternate endings is Breath of Fire 1 depending on whether or not you got the Agni dragon which was actually missable.

But I'm sure even that one isn't the first. Just the first one I can think of at a moments notice.

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boxoto
06/04/23 5:51:33 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Sometimes it feels like The Boss was Kojima's attempt at showing off how he can write female characters who aren't as stupid as Holly, Merly, Quiet, Eva etc when he feels like it
I like The Boss, but she was definitely a Mary Sue character, who didn't have much depth to her.

still a step up in Kojima's characters, but not by too much.

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Touch
06/04/23 5:54:50 PM
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boxoto posted...
I like The Boss, but she was definitely a Mary Sue character, who didn't have much depth to her.

still a step up in Kojima's characters, but not by too much.
Wat

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boxoto
06/04/23 5:58:30 PM
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she was perfect in all ways, with no faults, and everyone loved her, to the point there was a global war over the interpretation of her philosophy.

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pegusus123456
06/04/23 6:12:26 PM
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boxoto posted...
she was perfect in all ways, with no faults, and everyone loved her, to the point there was a global war over the interpretation of her philosophy.
You've also just described Big Boss.

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boxoto
06/04/23 6:15:32 PM
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no, that's The Boss.

Big Boss, at least in the original games, at least used child soldiers, for example, and in MGSV, he was willing to let a soldier be used as a pawn.

he did have a good deal of people pledging underserved loyalty, though.

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Punished_Blinx
06/04/23 6:21:06 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Meryl was always kinda weird as a character

She extensively goes on about her intense training to feel no attraction to men whatsoever.... Then falls in love with Snake in seconds.

Plus the whole "Watch her butt to identify her!" thing.

Sometimes it feels like The Boss was Kojima's attempt at showing off how he can write female characters who aren't as stupid as Holly, Merly, Quiet, Eva etc when he feels like it

And then somehow he made her even worse in MGS4 where she marries the joke soldier who shits his pants.

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NeonTentacles
06/04/23 7:38:40 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
There is no secret agent on Earth who would be like "hurr durr tiddies." at some random lady showing off clevage for literally no reason DURING AN ACTIVE MISSION BEHIND HOSTILE ENEMY LINES.
Guilty >__>

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Poorly
06/04/23 10:13:41 PM
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NeonTentacles posted...
Guilty >__>
Shell-shocked to hear this boob-man?

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pegusus123456
06/04/23 10:21:42 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
And then somehow he made her even worse in MGS4 where she marries the joke soldier who shits his pants.
Johnny turned out to be a super model under that balaclava though and maybe she has a poop fetish we shouldn't judge

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