Current Events > I love how the rest of the world thinks the UK views the Royal Family.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

BTW since this user never showed his face again here's an example of the attitude of people who hate Prince Harry

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/m1PqO-EqMpo

On the upside, Charlie only had to wait a few days between getting a diagnosis and starting treatment. I'll bet that massively cheered up the nearly 100,000 newly diagnosed non-royal cancer patients in the UK in 2023 who had to wait for more than 62 days before starting life-saving treatment. "Your royal masters' lives are everything; your lives are worth nothing." Always nice to hear.

Vampire_Chicken posted...

I don't think it's so much about pro-royal sentiment, I think it's more about people wanting to feel that they're at the heart of an historical event, that they've got a tiny role as an extra in some grand drama on the world stage. "I was there that day!"

I think our problem (I'm talking as a Brit) is that when a member of Britain's first family on welfare even so much as does a fart, the media treat it as an historical event.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the royals pay a buttload of taxes because of all the land they own?

DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the royals pay a buttload of taxes because of all the land they own?

The finances are really complicated.

The institution of the monarchy itself (not any individual) owns a shit ton of very valuable land and buildings. The profits from them go to the State, and a percentage of the profits is paid back to the Royal family as a maintenance grant. The state also pays for security and events like weddings and funerals.

In addition, some of them have personally owned estates that generate income. They pay income tax on these, but only on a voluntary basis.

UnfairRepresent posted...

BTW since this user never showed his face again here's an example of the attitude of people who hate Prince Harry

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/m1PqO-EqMpo

Was there a need for me to post again? I told you that Harry tanked his own reputation and that's true. Just look at how popular he is. Both him and Meghan were well regarded by the general public (not the newspapers mind you) until he stepped away from the royal family.

DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the royals pay a buttload of taxes because of all the land they own?

We still pay for the upkeep of their official residences, their staff and other expenses incurred, plus a nice little earner for lesser royals who perform "official functions". Like ai23 intimated, it's purely at the discretion of the monarch whether or not they pay tax and if so, how much; by the 1990s Liz wisely volunteered to pay for some of the expenses out of her own pocket, but I'm not sure how much transparency there is around the royal finances.

Trelve posted...

Was there a need for me to post again? I told you that Harry tanked his own reputation and that's true. Just look at how popular he is. Both him and Meghan were well regarded by the general public (not the newspapers mind you) until he stepped away from the royal family.

I'd say the feeling was more that he'd crossed a boundary by going public with his own side of the story and publishing a memoir. Bizarrely, in a country where we're duty-bound to live, eat, drink and breathe every moment of the royals' lives, where they're the living epitome of a media obsession with celeb culture, for Harry to air his grievances in print and in TV interviews was viewed in some circles as bad taste: it smacked of disloyalty to his dad, who'd cheated on his mum with another (married) woman.

And indeed, as far as the Tory tabloid trash are concerned, failure to lick sufficient shit out of the royal rectum is tantamount to treason.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Getting messages from my friends in Russia asking if I'm okay because of the news that Charles has cancer.

Found your problem. You have friends in one of the highest propaganda nations on the planet, who (the nation anyway) wants to do everything they can to make the west look bad.

Try asking them if they are okay because their leader is a deranged lunatic who keeps throwing his people into a meat grinder in a 3 day war that will take at least 3 years.

Trelve posted...

Was there a need for me to post again? I told you that Harry tanked his own reputation

By Marrying a black chick and that's true.

Just look at how popular he is. Both him and Meghan were well regarded by the general public (not the newspapers mind you) until he stepped away from the royal family.

Which he did after outrage due to marrying a black chick

You're talking like "Harry Tanked his reputation!" because he.... Responded to the immense amount of attacks he recieved that did damage to his reputation the moment he married a black chick.

It's stupid and untrue.

You can't pretend the response is the cause and while doing so ignore the cause.

Notti posted...

In the US, Middle class suburban women are absolutely enraptured by the royals.

It's super dumb, every time the royals visit Canada a ton of Americans come to try to catch a glimpse of them. I'm pretty sure the tourist dollars they bring in is less than the security costs involved in a royal visit.

are you ok tc?

I offer condolences

UnfairRepresent posted...

By Marrying a black chick and that's true.

Which he did after outrage due to marrying a black chick

You're talking like "Harry Tanked his reputation!" because he.... Responded to the immense amount of attacks he recieved that did damage to his reputation the moment he married a black chick.

It's stupid and untrue.

You can't pretend the response is the cause and while doing so ignore the cause.

No-one likes the gutter press in the UK so it'd be fair game for him to go after people like Piers Morgan and most people would be right behind him.

But what turned everyone against him was playing the victim card and airing his dirty laundry in public. Going on Oprah, releasing a Netflix documentary, releasing 2 books and a Spotify podcast. In addition to stepping back from royal duties while still wanting the benefits that a Prince would get.

He's a member of one of the most privileged families in the world and was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. The public have expectations of him and he's proving himself to be childish and they don't like it. They expect him to do his duty. Harry's approval ratings are consistently low while William's are consistently high.

Trelve posted...

No-one likes the gutter press in the UK so it'd be fair game for him to go after people like Piers Morgan and most people would be right behind him.

But what turned everyone against him was playing the victim card and airing his dirty laundry in public. Going on Oprah, releasing a Netflix documentary, releasing 2 books and a Spotify podcast.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/176e8a8f.jpg

Yeah that interview in 2021 and the book/spotify in 2023 are defiinately what caused his popularity plummet in 2019 That makes perfect sense... If you're a fucking Time Lord....

The decline in popularity that occured months after he married a black chick and the press attacked him for marryng a black chick aggressively every day for years.

But no, it was responding to that decline years later...that ...caused that decline to occur years before.

You're full of it

He's a member of one of the most privileged families in the world and was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. The public have expectations of him and he's proving himself to be childish and they don't like it. They expect him to do his duty. Harry's approval ratings are consistently low while William's are consistently high.

yeah it was so childish of him to neglect his duty by marring a black chick.

Why couldn't he just maintain the standards of the rest of the royal family by cheating on his wife like his dad, having corrupt businsess deals with tryants or pedophilia with his uncle.

The entire Royal Family is childish, it's a childish insitutition of privledged pampered entitled idiots. Harry is no exception but you know damn well that's not what made conservatives despise him.

Singling out Harry, the one who did two tours of Afghanistan as "being childish" and actively aggressively downplaying the blatant indisputable racism is more childish than anything the Royal Family has ever done.

As is claiming his responding (years later) to the UK right wingers turning on him for marrying a black chick is what caused people to turn on him

Harry announced his intention to marry Meghan in 2017 and did so in May 2018. If we're going to take your graph as proof, then it seems that he was still very popular before and after he married. Personally, I don't remember anyone making a deal of her race at the time and everyone seemed happy with another royal wedding. Of course, there may have been articles in the tabloids like the Daily Mail but as far as I can remember I don't remember any controversy over her race in the every day chatter - more so that she was divorced.

This popularity chart from just before his wedding seem to suggest that both he and Meghan were well liked at the time.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/cb70ed9f.jpg
If Harry wanted to step back from the royal family then do so. His constant need for attention is what soured the public on him and you know it. How many books is he on now? You really think that everyone hates him because he married a "black chick" as you call her?

There's no denial that places like the Daily Mail and Express were racist but to suggest that the British public hate Meghan (and by extension Harry) because of their race is idiotic.

Harry might have felt he had to air his family's dirty laundry in public because no one else would have dared to do it.

I don't know everything that was on Harry's long list of grievances (because I'm not interested enough in royal soap opera to watch the interviews or read all the stories), but it sounds like airing them in private had gotten him nowhere and his relationship with his family had broken down long before he went public. Despite all the royal and pro-royal outrage about disloyalty and betrayal, blah blah, he apparently felt they'd betrayed him and his wife first -- but no one was going to breathe a whisper about that. And in view of the fact that Harry is treated like a Judas while a veil is dutifully kept tightly drawn over his dad's infidelity to his mother, he was dead right.

To be honest, I'm not a fan of self-publicists either, but I recognise that if he's no longer a blue-blooded leech suckling on the taxpayer's teat, then he's got to earn a crust somehow. Seeing as wifey has a media career background, the interview and publishing circuit is an unsurprising choice. Although I'd had more respect if he'd tried retraining as, I dunno, an accountant.